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Muslim anger at bishop's ghettoes attack.
Muslim anger at bishop’s ghettoes attack
ReligionNewsBlog
www.religionnewsblog.com/20296/islam-74 ,
Independent (UK), http://news.independent.co.uk , by Jerome Taylor,
Jan. 7, 2008
ENGLAND -
Muslim leaders reacted angrily yesterday to a claim by the Bishop of Rochester that Islamic extremists have created "no-go" areas in many cities and a plea for mosques to desist from using amplifiers to broadcast calls to prayer.
The Right Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the Church of England's only Asian-born bishop, sparked anger after writing in an article that in many predominantly Muslims areas of Britain's cities people of a different faith face
"hostility" from the Muslim community who create "no-go" areas. Inayat Bunglawala, assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, accused Dr Nazir-Ali of scaremongering.
"Bishop Nazir-Ali's remarks are quite frankly more like the kind of commentary we would have expected from the far-right BNP, not a responsible figure in the Church of England," he said. "Where are these so-called "no-go" areas that he speaks of? He doesn't say."
Unable to integrate
By its very nature, Islam makes it extremely difficult for Muslims to integrate. Islam means
submission, and the Quran makes it clear that Muslims expect non-Muslims to submit to Islam.
Western values are not compatible with Islam. As a result, many Muslims form ghettos and engage in other forms of non-integration.
Hair-tricker [? Hair-trigger] sensitivities that have Muslim extremists respond to real or perceived insults with death threats, violent demonstrations, murder and terrorism, make it difficult or even impossible for non-Muslims to believe the claim that Islam is a 'religion of peace.' Therefore a high birthrate among Muslims, combined with high (legal and illegal) immigration figures, have Europeans and others worried about the Muslims in their midst.
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Plot Shows Rise of Extremism in Europe
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Dr Nazir-Ali said attempts had been made to "impose an Islamic character on certain areas" in cities and was particularly critical of mosques which have sought permission from local authorities to broadcast the daily call to prayer over a loudspeaker.
Sheikh Imam Ibrahim Mogra, a Leicester-based imam who runs interfaith programmes with Christian clergy, said he was very disappointed by the bishop's decision to criticise the call to prayer. "I cannot understand why a man of faith would have a problem with God's name being called out in an increasingly non-religious society – it's beyond belief," he said. "We've had church bells ringing in our country for centuries and yet the character of our country is not really Christian, we are a predominantly non-religious society."
The imam added that the comments by Dr Nazir-Ali, who chairs the Anglican Church's inter-faith dialogue group, were likely to do much harm to promoting greater understanding between religious groups. "He has given more ammunition to the hatemongers," he said. "He is helping to foster the false perception that Muslims are misfits who really shouldn't be here."
Only a very small number of Britain's 2,000 plus mosques have permission to broadcast the call to prayer over loudspeakers. Those that do are generally in cities with large Muslim populations such as Bradford, Blackburn and Birmingham and are only allowed to do so in daylight hours as long as they keep below a set volume.
Bary Malik, an imam in Bradford, where tensions between Muslim and non-Muslim communities sometimes run high, accused Dr Nazir-Ali of unfairly singling out the Muslim community. "He's right to say there is segregation and 'ghettoisation' but we all share the blame for that, not one individual community.
"The Bishop of Rochester supposedly understands both cultures so he should be trying to foster better relations between these different communities, not aggravating them further."
Cleric who courts controversy
Dr Michael Nazir-Ali is the Church of England's only Asian-born bishop and, as a notoriously conservative bishop, is no stranger to controversy.
Born and raised in Pakistan to a Catholic-convert father, he later changed to the Anglican Church and became the youngest bishop in the world at his consecration in 1994.
In 2000 he accused childless married couples of being "self-indulgent" and that those who chose to marry had a duty to procreate. Gay rights activists accuse him of being homophobic.
Despite being a president of the Anglican Church's Network for Inter-faith Concerns of the Anglican Communion, Dr Nazir-Ali has been known to play up the differences between Britain's various faiths.
He recently said the Prince of Wales could not become the defender of all the faiths in the UK on becoming monarch because of serious differences between religions.
He has also upset the Muslim community, accusing many of being guilty of double standards for seeking both "victimhood and domination".
He has said laws should be introduced to give some officials power to lift a woman's veil for security reasons.
Supporters say the bishop is an articulate, intelligent religious leader who cares deeply about the state of Anglican Christianity in an increasingly non-religious Britain.
He has been a member of the House of Lords since 1999, the first Asian religious leader to sit in the upper house.
In 1997 he was the only UK bishop in a poll to be able to name all five Spice Girls.
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Traitor wants Bush bomb blitz.
Al-Qaida spokesman makes urgent call for ‘militant brothers’ to be ready when US President visits the Middle East
Traitor wants Bush bomb blitz
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
INTERNET VERSION - "American militant urges attacks on Bush," 4:39 WST,
January 7, 2008,
www.thewest. com.au/aap story.aspx? StoryName= 449441 ,
PRINTED VERSION - p 16, Tuesday, January 8, 2008
CAIRO - Al-Qaida's US spokesman has urged fighters to greet President George Bush with bombs when he visits the Middle East, according to a new video posted on the internet.
US-born Adam Gadahn also tore up his American passport as part of a symbolic protest in the nearly hour-long tape posted on Sunday.
The release comes just three days before Mr Bush is due to arrive in Israel for a week-long trip that will also include the West Bank, Kuwait, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Egypt as part of his push for an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement.
[Picture] Front line: George Bush with a marine combat unit during a surprise visit to Iraq. He will need similar high level protection this week. Picture: Associated Press
"Now we direct an urgent call to our militant brothers in Muslim Palestine and the Arab peninsula… to be ready to receive the Crusader slayer Bush in his visit to Muslim Palestine and the Arab peninsula in the beginning of January and to receive him not with flowers or clapping but with bombs and booby-trapped vehicles,"
Gadahn, 29, said in Arabic.
"This just shows once again, al-Qaida offers nothing but violence and death," said Gordon Johndroe, Mr Bush's National Security Council spokesman.
"The purpose of President Bush's trip is to meet mainstream Arab leaders and people to talk about a positive future for the region, based on hope and opportunity."
‘Be ready to receive the Crusader slayer Bush – not with flowers or clapping but with bombs.’
AL-QAIDA SPOKESMAN ADAM GADAHN
Commenting on Gadahn tearing up his US passport, Mr Johndroe said: "He is wanted for treason against the United States. His passport was already void."
During the rest of the 50-minute video, titled An Invitation to Reflection and Repentance, Gadahn, who grew up in California, spoke mostly in English, appearing to address the American people specifically.
He said al-Qaida felt the need to release the statement after Washington's "defeat" in Iraq and Afghanistan and failed attempts by the Bush administration to bring peace to the Middle East.
"We felt it necessary to address the American people and explain to them some of the facts about these critical and fast-moving events," said Gadahn, who wore a white-and-red headscarf and sat behind a desk.
"The first questions Americans might ask is, has America really been defeated? The answer is yes and on all fronts."
The video could not be independently verified, but it appeared on a website often used by Islamic militants and carried the logo of al-Qaida's media wing, al-Sahab. The start of the video is dated December 2007.
Gadahn, also known as Azzam al-Amriki, was charged with treason in the US in 2006 and has been wanted since 2004 by the FBI.
He has appeared in several al-Qaida videos including one in August when he threatened new attacks on foreign embassies.
In May, al-Qaida released another video featuring Gadahn, who warned Mr Bush to end US involvement in Muslim lands or face an attack worse than the September 11, 2001, attacks.
Ben Venzke, the head of IntelCenter, a US group that monitors and analyses militant messages, said much of Gadahn's new video shared a similar tone with his previous messages.
"It fits into al-Qaida's notion of providing warning and opportunity for people to correct their ways to avoid an attack," he said.
In the video, Gadahn lashes out repeatedly at the US for its wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and its close ties to Israel and the leaders of some Muslim countries, including Egypt and Pakistan, which he described as some of the "worst dictators and tyrants".
Gadahn also criticised Christianity, which he called "baseless and doubt-filled," and urged Americans - including soldiers who fought in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan - to convert to Islam.
"Listen to me and listen to me carefully, before you lose your mind to flashbacks and drugs and drink-induced dementia and before your demons drive you to self-destruction and suicide, in these verses (in the Koran), God calls out to each and every one of you saying God forgives all sins – if you simply stop and repent," he said.
Gadahn is the first American in 50 years to be charged with treason and could face the death penalty if convicted. He also faces a charge of providing material support to terrorists. #
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[INFORMATION: Birth surname is Pearlman.
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[KORAN: 22:19 (or 22:20):- … But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >
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[LINK/S: CNN -
www.cnn.com/ 2008/WORLD/ meast/01/ 06/gadahn. tape/index. html .
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[Jan 8, 08]
Bin Laden turns heat on Saudi Arabia.
Bin Laden turns heat on Saudi Arabia
Information Clearing House,
www.information clearinghouse. info/article 19051.htm , "Asia Times," (dated there Jan 12, 2008),
By Michael Scheuer, January/11/08
Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden's latest message is one of the richest, most comprehensive and starkly realistic he has issued since the start of the Iraq war. This essay considers al-Qaeda's dour recognition of its inability to control post-occupation events in Iraq as a small vanguard organization and a non-Iraqi presence in the country.
On December 29, 2007, bin Laden issued a 56-minute statement that addressed Muslim insurgents in Iraq [1] and built on his earlier message from October 22 [2]. The new statement was issued via al-Qaeda's media arm, al-Sahab, and appeared on several Internet sites without pre-publication excerpts on al-Jazeera television. Al-Jazeera's editing of the October 22 audiotape distorted bin Laden's message, incorrectly giving the implication that he was saying "all is lost" for the mujahideen in Iraq [3]. Al-Jazeera customarily deletes anything critical of the Saudi regime from bin Laden's messages. This occurred in the case of the October 22 tape and al-Qaeda apparently did not want to take a chance on al-Jazeera's penchant for politically correct editing with its most recent message [4].
Focus on Iraq
The latest bin Laden tape is - like its October 22 predecessor - pre-eminently a post-Iraq war tape. In both tapes, bin Laden declares that the United States recognizes that its Coalition has been militarily defeated in Iraq and predicts that US and other foreign forces will leave. Bin Laden does not provide the date US-led forces will withdraw; he focuses his attention on working with Islamist insurgents in Iraq to ensure the Americans and their Arab-government allies cannot build a national unity government that is an "agent to America", dominated by non-Islamists and ready to permit the US basing rights and access to Iraqi oil.
Because US-led forces have accepted military defeat, bin Laden argues, Washington and its allies must look for other means to prevent the consolidation of an Islamic state in Iraq. "My talk to you," bin Laden explained, "is about the plots that are being hatched by the Zionist-Crusader alliance, led by America, in cooperation with its agents in the region, to steal the fruit of the blessed jihad in the land of the two rivers, and what we should do to foil these plots."
History's lesson
As always, bin Laden speaks as a product and close observer of the Afghans' jihad against the Soviet Union. In appealing for unity among the Iraqi mujahideen, he makes no demand that they join al-Qaeda and follow its instructions. He points rather to the failure of the Afghan insurgents to consolidate victory after the Red Army's 1989 withdrawal: "It would be useful here to recall an effort in the past to unify the leaders of the Afghan mujahideen, which includes important lessons that are related to our topic," bin Laden tells the Iraqi fighters in an almost avuncular tone.
We had made these efforts with Sheikh Abdullah Azzam [bin Laden's late Palestinian mentor in Afghanistan], may God have mercy on him. After months of seeking to achieve unity among [the Afghan leaders] and removing the obstacles that some of them used to claim that they obstruct unity, [but then] after removing these obstacles… they [would] claim that there was another obstacle [preventing unity], and so on and so forth… One of the mujahideen had a strong opinion about these [obstructing] leaders. He was an old wise person who had long experience in life with people. At the time we used to reject his strong-worded statement about them. I will try to convey to you some of what he said. The conclusion is that those leaders are tradesmen who care more about their leadership and give priority to their personal interests over the cause. We used not to believe what he said about them. This has delayed our realization of the sound conception of persons and events [presented by this mujahid]. The harmful consequences of this are no secret … In fact, developments have come to confirm things that we had never expected due to the fact that we were young and lacked experience at the time.
In Iraq, Riyadh is the main enemy
Bin Laden urges the Iraqi fighters to heed the lesson of the Afghans' historic post-Soviet debacle because "the same thing applies to Iraq today"; leaders are more interested in their own power and status than in making Islam and the ummah (Islamic community) victorious. And while bin Laden warns that Washington is using promises of money, military training and arms to entice the "Islamic Party and some fighting groups [to] support America against Muslims", he leaves no doubt that the Islamists' main enemy in Iraq is now Saudi Arabia, not the supposedly militarily defeated United States. After the Soviets' withdrawal from Afghanistan, bin Laden reminded the Iraqi fighters that "America exerted great efforts to convince the Afghan leaders through the governments of Riyadh and Islamabad to join a national unity government with communists and secularists from the West." Bin Laden explained that the Saudi regime was then – and is again today in Iraq – the main enemy of the mujahideen:
[In post-Soviet Afghanistan] the government of Riyadh sought the help of its unofficial scholars to infiltrate the ranks of the mujahideen. These were influential speakers who incited the people to perform jihad and collect huge funds for the leaders of the mujahideen. At the set time, [the Saudi regime] asked the Afghan leaders to unite with the communists and secularists under the so-called national unity state. [The Saudis] obstructed the plan to achieve unity among the leaders of the mujahideen when they tempted one of them with a big amount of money and promised him to be the president of Afghanistan – We do not have much time here for more details. So the current situation [in Iraq] is similar to the past one [in Afghanistan]. The government of Riyadh continues to this day to carry out the same malicious roles with many Islamic action leaders and commanders of the mujahideen in our nation [5].
Bin Laden goes on to claim that the Saudis are trying to co-opt some of the Sunni mujahideen in Iraq by allowing "some groups to confidently move in the Gulf to receive [financial] support". Riyadh is careful to avoid officially funding its Iraqi insurgent favorites, so its support "is channeled under the banner of raising donations by some unofficial scholars and preachers". Bin Laden warns that "many of them … are loyal to the state and seek to implement [Riyadh's] policy by pulling the rug from under the honest mujahideen's feet" and forcing them to support a national-unity government that is designed to be the agent of the United States and Saudi Arabia.
He asks the Iraqi mujahideen how they can trust Saudi King Abdullah, who is the "malignant foe" of Islam, the "main US agent in the region" and a man who took it on himself "to tempt and tame every free, virtuous, and honest person with the aim of dragging him to the path of temptation and misguidance … [and] the path of betraying the religion and nation and submitting to the will of the Crusader-Zionist alliance". The Americans are defeated, bin Laden concludes, but to assure God's victory the Iraqi mujahideen must reject Saudi overtures and direction if they are "not to waste the fruit of this chaste and pure blood that was shed for the sake of consolidating religion and entrenching the state of Muslims".
A way out?
Bin Laden and his senior lieutenants are reliving what for them is a familiar nightmare. In one of the greatest ironies of the post-1945 era, Islamist fighters have proven that with great, prolonged and bloody effort they can claim the military defeat of superpowers - the USSR and the United States - but cannot consolidate victory when confronted by the wiles, funds and religious establishment of the Saudi leadership. While it is clear in the December 29 tape that bin Laden rates the Saudis as the main obstacle to God's victory in Iraq, there is little indication of what he intends to do to destroy Riyadh's ability to stymie the mujahideen there as it did in Afghanistan.
One possibility - though bin Laden did not allude to this - would require a rethinking of al-Qaeda's grand strategy. Although bin Laden and al-Qaeda have been consistent in their three-fold grand strategy - to drive the United States from the Muslim world, destroy Israel and incumbent Muslim regimes and settle scores with the Shi'ites - they now face a situation where the Saudi regime has not only so far prevented the unification of Islamist leaders, but is allegedly preparing the Sunni Iraqi insurgents it supports for a civil war with Iraq's Iranian-backed Shi'ites.
Bin Laden, of course, is correct in arguing that Riyadh wants no genuine national-unity government; the Saudis may be intending to fund and equip a Sunni insurgent force that could join forces with the US-armed and trained Sunni Awakening Councils to battle for control of post-US Iraq against the Shiites and seek the establishment of a Saudi-like Sunni theocracy in Baghdad. If this occurs, the third step of bin Laden's grand strategy - settling scores with the Shi'ites - will immediately become the top priority of the Islamic world, as both Sunnis and Shi'ites focus on assisting their brethren in the Iraqi civil war. This scenario would severely erode bin Laden's ability to keep Sunni militants focused on the "far" US enemy.
If bin Laden's assertions are true, and Saudi Arabia's Afghanistan-like intervention in Iraq continues to prevent the mujahideen unity bin Laden advocates, the al-Qaeda chief and his shura (consultative) council may soon confront the very unpalatable necessity of having to break with their traditional grand strategy and move to try to destroy the Saudi regime.
In such a scenario, al-Qaeda would abandon the pinprick insurgency-and-terrorism campaign it has conducted in the kingdom since September 11, and employ all the force it commands and can incite there - and bring in from Iraq - to take on the well-infiltrated Saudi military and security services. Such a campaign probably would combine attempts to assassinate the king, the interior minister and senior intelligence and military officials with attacks to disrupt Saudi oil production.
The latter operations would be staged in the hope of forcing Washington to a Hobson's choice between standing back and allowing havoc to reign in the world's oil market - with the immense damage it would entail for the US economy - and ordering US military forces into action against Muslims in order to restore oil production on the sacred soil of the Prophet Mohammad's birthplace and what bin Laden refers to as "the land of the two holy mosques".
The foregoing clearly is not an option that al-Qaeda is eager to undertake; it is an option that amounts to an almost desperate gamble. But that said, if such a campaign successfully triggered a US military response in the kingdom, the focus and militancy of the entire Muslim world - both Sunni and Shi'ite - would be switched from Iraq to Saudi Arabia, and the enmity and weapons of all Muslims would, at least temporarily, be refocused on the "far enemy" in North America.
Notes
1. Osama bin Laden, "The Way to Foil Plots", al-Sahab Media Production Organization, December 29, 2007. All quotes from bin Laden in the text are from this statement unless otherwise noted.
2. Osama bin Laden, "A Message to Our People in Iraq", Threat and Claim Monitor, IntelCenter.com, October 22, 2007.
3. Al-Jazeera, October 23, 2007. By censoring bin Laden's statement, al-Jazeera unwittingly seems to have done al-Qaeda a great service. The "all-is-lost" message yielded by al-Jazeera's editors has become the common wisdom among Western media and governments, thereby obscuring for those entities the fact that bin Laden was discussing how all Iraqi insurgents should proceed to consolidate Islam's victory over the United States and its allies in Iraq.
4. Al-Jazeera's editing earned it some outrage and condemnation from Islamists. See, for example, Bilal al-Khaldi, "And thus Osama's message has gone to waste. An invitation to a proactive response." Islamic al-Fallujah Forums (Internet), November 16, 2007.
5. Bin Laden says that the Saudi effort to prevent post-Soviet Afghan unity was led and managed by "the Riyadh intelligence chief", who was at the time Prince Turki al-Faisal. This is the same Prince Turki who - while serving as the Saudi ambassador to the United States - unexpectedly and hurriedly departed Washington in early 2007 when a Sunni-Shi'ite civil war seemed imminent in Iraq. Not much has been heard from Prince Turki since his departure, but if bin Laden's claims about the current Saudi campaign to co-opt Iraq's Sunni mujahideen are true, it is hard to imagine anyone more qualified by past experience to lead the effort than Prince Turki.
Michael Scheuer served as the chief of the bin Laden Unit at the Central Intelligence Agency's Counterterrorist Center from 1996 to 1999. He is now a senior fellow at The Jamestown Foundation.
This article first appeared in The Jamestown Foundation [Washington (DC), USA.] #
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[Jan 11, 08]
Muslim leader says families must help catch honour killers.
Muslim leader says families must help catch honour killers
The Independent on Sunday (Britain),
http://news. independent. co.uk/uk/ crime/ article3333 866.ece ,
By Andrew Johnson, Published January 13, 2008
BRITAIN -
One of Britain's leading Muslims has called on his community to rise up against a culture of fear and help stamp out forced marriages and honour killings after the third high-profile court case in Britain in the past year.
Dr Ghayasuddin Siddiqui, head of the Muslim Parliament in Britain, spoke out after a coroner ruled on Friday that 17-year-old Shafilea Ahmed was "unlawfully killed" and that "the concept of an arranged marriage was central to the circumstances of her death".
Mr Siddiqui said he was certain the schoolgirl, who wanted to go to university and become a lawyer, was the victim of an honour killing. No charges have yet been bought by police, a failure Mr Siddiqui blamed on members of her family and close community closing ranks, even though some may have wanted to speak out.
Five members of her family, including her parents, were arrested in connection with the death, but later released without charge. Shafilea's parents vehemently deny any involvement in her killing or disappearance.
"I think relatives won't speak out because they are scared," he said. "Somebody in the family disappears, relatives must have been concerned. But they would not co-operate with the police. The family and those who were close were not willing to come forward. That's why many of these murders are unresolved. There are now 12 cases a year on average."
Shafilea, from Warrington, was reported missing in 2003 by teachers soon after she returned from a trip to Pakistan. Five months later, her decomposed body was found near the bank of the River Kent in Cumbria. A pathologist said that "it was not credible" she had died of natural causes and suggested she had been strangled or smothered.
At her inquest in Kendal last week, homelessness worker Anne-Marie Woods told the court that Shafilea had come to her seeking advice, claiming she had been beaten and robbed by her parents.
A statement the school-girl wrote to support a housing claim said: "I had saved £2,000, which they took out of my bank account. My parents are going to send me to Pakistan and I'll be married to someone and left there. There had been a build-up of violence towards me, and my mother told me I was about to go to Pakistan for an arranged marriage."
Ian Smith, the South Cumbria coroner, ruled on Friday that Shafilea had been unlawfully killed, adding that she was the victim of a "vile murder" and that he was confident she was dead before her body was dumped on the riverbank.
Police continue to investigate her disappearance. Det Supt Geraint Jones of Cheshire said that officers were awaiting permission to travel to Pakistan to help their investigations.
Massoud Shadjareh, of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, said the Muslim community should not be demonised for forced marriages. "Domestic violence happens in every community, and forced marriages are also a feature in Sikh and Hindu communities," he said.
About 12 honour killings are committed in Britain each year. The Forced Marriage Unit at the Home Office receives 5,000 inquiries a year, and handles 300 cases. The Government is also consulting on new immigration rules to stop forced marriages.
Girl who feared arranged marriage was 'murdered' [Ms Shafilea Ahmed]
'Stoned' loner who killed jogger is jailed for life
Mental breakdown caused father to kill his daughter
Billy Bragg's jailhouse rock project cuts reoffending rate
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[COMMENT: "Muslim leader says … " -- but how many Muslims does this man lead? Does he give sermons every Friday to thousands of other Muslims? Are any of the imams who do give sermons, daily, backing his point of view? Is he able to overturn the Koran statement that good women are obedient, and if not they may be hit, beaten, or is it scourged? And that disbelievers must be terrorised and killed?
And why is there a "Muslim Parliament in Britain"? Have you ever heard of a Methodist or Salvation Army "Parliament" in Britain? Or a Roman Catholic one, or Baptist?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[RECAPITULATION: "Domestic violence happens in every community, and forced marriages are also a feature in Sikh and Hindu communities," he said. ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Well, New Testament religion does not allow domestic violence. Does any reader know if the Sikh and Hindu holy writings give permission for forced marriages? ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:34 (or 4:38):- … Virtuous women are obedient, careful, … But chide those for whose refractoriness ye have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them …
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[Jan 13, 08]
Bali bombers wrong to target civilians: Bashir
Bali bombers wrong to target civilians: Bashir
Australian Broadcasting Corporation,
www.abc.net. au/news/ stories/ 2008/01/15/ 2139122.htm ,
Reuters, Updated 5:22pm AEDT, Tue Jan 15, 2008
INDONESIA –
Controversial Indonesian cleric Abu Bakar Bashir says the three militants who could be executed for the 2002 Bali bombings within weeks acted in good faith to defend Islam, but were wrong to indiscriminately target civilians.
The three, Imam Samudra, Mukhlas and Amrozi - who was dubbed "the smiling bomber" because of his constant grin at his trial - have run out of legal avenues for appeal, but could still seek presidential clemency, an option they have already ruled out.
They were sentenced to death for their role in two nightclub blasts on Bali's Kuta strip on October 12, 2002 in which 202 people died, 88 of them Australians.
"Their intention is good; to defend fellow Muslims who have been terrorised by America and its allies. They didn't seek popularity, they didn't seek worldly possessions, they didn't seek any position," Bashir told Reuters in an interview at his house in the central Java city of Solo.
"All they looked for was Allah's favour."
Bashir, accused by some foreign governments of once heading the regional militant network Jemaah Islamiah (JI), says the militants did not discuss with him any bombing plans and he could have dissuaded them had they done so.
"I'm fighting America too, but by means of preaching. I don't agree with using bombs in a peaceful zone," he said.
The attacks, and a number of other deadly bombings in recent years, were blamed on JI, of which Bashir was alleged to have been a co-founder.
Bashir, 69, was jailed for 30 months for conspiracy over the Bali bombings but was later cleared.
'Redeemed their sins'
He says the three Bali convicts have realised their mistakes and have fasted every day for two straight months to redeem their sins.
But he also says during a meeting with the men in their island prison in December that it was evident that they had found peace and joy.
He did not rule out more attacks in Indonesia, but says more militants have realised that violence will only hurt their cause.
"There are probably people who still believe in such a method but they will be more careful," he said, referring to militants being more careful in choosing their targets to avoid Indonesians being killed.
Bashir says Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden would have opposed bombings in Indonesia because it was not a conflict zone.
"I'm sure if Osama bin Laden had been consulted he would not have agreed with (the idea of) carrying out bombings in Indonesia," he said.
The cleric has in the past praised Bin Laden as a "true Muslim fighter".
Since his release from prison in June 2006, Bashir has travelled around the country to preach about the importance of sharia, or Islamic law.
Although there has not been an official order to restrict him, he says police sometimes ask people to cancel their invitation for him to speak at rallies.
-Reuters
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[RECAPITULATION: Bashir says Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden would have opposed bombings in Indonesia because it was not a conflict zone. "I'm sure if Osama bin Laden had been consulted he would not have agreed with (the idea of) carrying out bombings in Indonesia," he said.
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[COMMENT: Important elements in the above: (1) Bin Laden, allegedly a mass-murderer with a price on his head, a terrrorist leader in the eyes of many countries, is discussed as if he were a respectable reference point; (2) Indonesia "was not a conflict zone," says Bashir.
But, WHO, pray, decides what country, and when, is a "conflict zone"? The mosque leaders, or would it be decided by majority vote -- and if so, who has the vote?
I thought the world's better elements were trying to have PEACE ON EARTH, not divide it up into the House of War and the House of Submission -- also known as the House of Islam. I don't feel comfortable with the founder of a bombing group speaking as if he had heavenly authority to pronounce on such cracked theology.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[LOOK FORWARD: "Plot to kill Queen foiled," The International Express (Britain), West Australian edition,
Pages One and 2, January 15-21, 2008
"Bakar Bashir calls for violence against 'infidel' tourists," ABC, www.abc.net. au/news/ stories/ 2008/03/24/ 2197660.htm , Monday, March 24, 2008.
"Smith condemns Bashir bigotry," ABC, www.abc.net. au/news/ stories/ 2008/03/24/ 2197836.htm ,
Monday, March 24, 2008
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 66:2:- Allah hath allowed you release from your oaths. … DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Jan 15, 08]
Plot to kill Queen foiled.
PLOT TO KILL QUEEN FOILED
The International Express (Britain), West Australian edition,
Pages One and 2, January 15-21, 2008
[Picture] SITTING TARGETS: The Queen with Prince Philip, Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall at the Commonwealth gathering in Uganda last November, which terrorists planned to attack
AL QAEDA terrorists posing as TV crews planned to blow up the Queen by smuggling explosives into last year's Commonwealth summit.
Two huge outside broadcast vans belonging to the Uganda Broadcasting Corporation were seized after a tip-off from intelligence agents.
As a result, UBC was unable to transmit live pictures of key summit events, including the Queen's historic address to the Ugandan parliament on November 22.
Dr Ruhakana Rugunda, the Uganda Minister of Internal Affairs, said: "We received information that a terrorist group called the Allied Democratic Forces, linked to Al Qaeda, was planning to carry out terrorist activities at the Commonwealth meeting. The services in Uganda neutralised these threats."
Day Al Qaeda tried to blow up Queen
He refused to comment on the precise nature of the planned attacks or reports that Ugandan armed forces had seized a speedboat loaded with arms and homemade bombs.
A number of suspected ADF guerrillas aboard the boat on Lake Victoria are understood to have been taken into custody.
Dr Rugunda added: "A number of suspects have been arrested but I cannot comment on the specifics of this case. What I can say is that we stepped up security because of the Al Qaeda threat but it was neutralised by our security services. In the end, the summit was incident-free and Uganda was happy to receive such distinguished guests, led by Her Majesty the Queen."
Ugandan army spokesman Paddy Ankunda said: "Plans to cause havoc were curtailed, fortunately. There were intentions to disrupt the meeting and to target delegates and the Royal Family but the security agencies worked well together to ensure nothing happened."
An attack on the summit would have been devastating.
[Picture] TERROR THREAT: A plot to kill the Queen at the summit was foiled
The meeting in Kampala was attended by 16 presidents and 20 prime ministers, including Gordon Brown. For the first time the biennial event was attended by Prince Charles and Camilla as well as the Queen and Prince Philip.
The incident is certain to prompt a review of the Queen's security and that of other members of the Royal Family. Dai Davies, former head of royal protection, said: "It will have huge implications globally for the Royal Family's protection, although the Queen's security arrangements are very sophisticated.
"There would have been thorough advanced planning ahead of the trip to Uganda, an exit strategy would have been worked out, and so on. At the end of the day, the Queen is a great pragmatist - she's a great believer in what will be will be."
It is feared Islamic terrorists may have stepped up their campaign against high-profile Western women following the recent assassination of Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan. Al Qaeda's deputy leader Ayman Al Zawahri directly addressed the Queen when threatening attacks on Britain last July, after a knighthood was given to Salman Rushdie, who angered Muslims with his 1988 novel
The Satanic Verses.
In a broadcast on Arabic TV channel Al Jazeera, he threatened: "I say to [Queen] Elizabeth and Blair that your message has reached us and we are in the process of preparing you for a precise response."
The ADF is one of several Islamic terror groups set up in east Africa with Al Qaeda support in the Nineties when Osama Bin Laden was living in Khartoum, Sudan.
Its leader, Jamil Mukulu, who was trained at camps in Afghanistan, launched his first attack in Uganda in 1996. A spate of bombings culminated in 30 students being abducted from their college in Kasese and massacred in 1998.
Two people died and six were injured in an explosion in Kampala last February. #
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[RECAPITULATION: Its leader, Jamil Mukulu, who was trained at camps in Afghanistan, launched his first attack in Uganda in 1996.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Was this one of the camps financed by Western governments, one wonders.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Jan 15-21, 2008]
Furore over plan for $4m mosque in Swan Valley.
Furore over plan for $4m mosque in Swan Valley
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
By DANIEL HATCH, p 3, Thursday, January 17, 2008
PERTH (W. Australia) –
A plan to build a $4 million mosque complete with a 19m minaret in the Swan Valley has divided the local Muslim and non-Muslim community, with some residents worried it will destroy the identity of the area as a tourist, viticultural and horticultural hotspot.
[More to be inserted later - jcm 04 Mar 08]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#furore_over_plan
[Jan 17, 08]
Al-Qaida accused of using children as suicide bombers.
[Sunni cleric opposes strapping bombs to children. Funeral, school bombed.]
Al-Qaida accused of using children as suicide bombers
The West Australian,
www.thewest. com.au ,
p 34, Tuesday, January 29, 2008
BAGHDAD – Al-Qaida was using teenagers as suicide bombers in Iraq, a US military spokesman said yesterday, as an influential Sunni cleric urged the jihadists to stop "strapping bombs to children".
The comments came as Iraqi troops and tanks rolled into Mosul to boost forces for a huge offensive against al-Qaida after deadly bombings in the northern city last week killed dozens of people, including a police chief.
US Rear-Admiral Gregory Smith said that two suicide attacks in Iraq in the past week had been carried out by 15-year-olds.
"We are not sure whether one of these children even knew he was being used to deliver a bomb," the US military spokesman said.
One attack was carried out at a funeral near Tikrit and the other was at a school in Mosul, Rear-Admiral Smith said.
He gave no other details of the two bombings. Iraqi police said 17 people died on Monday of last week in a suicide blast at the funeral near Tikrit for a relative of an Iraqi police colonel.
"Al-Qaida in Iraq is trying to brainwash children with hate and death," Rear-Admiral Smith said. "They seek to create a culture of violence, hate and despair.
"(They) are sending 15-year-old boys on suicide missions to spread death and helplessness."
He said 90 per cent of "suicide murders inflicted on Iraqi people are committed by foreign fighters brought in by al-Qaida in Iraq to spread destruction."
Sheikh Ahmed Abduil Ghafour al-Samarraie, moderate but influential head of the Sunni Endowment religious organisation, accused the al-Qaida-linked Islamic State of Iraq of committing the "worst crimes against our people."
[Picture] Safety first: Iraqis on their way to a town meeting walk down the middle of a road to avoid bombs. Picture: Associated Press
"They have killed thousands of thinkers, dozens of scholars, tens of thousands of innocent people in horrifying ways," Sheikh Samarraie said.
The jihadists were "strapping bombs to children and sending them into gatherings and mourning ceremonies".
"They feel happy with these killings," he said. "They deceived young people to attach bombs to their bodies to explode themselves to go allegedly to paradise."
Sheikh Samarraie appealed to Islamic scholars around the world to declare such attacks contrary to sharia, or Islamic law.
Iraqi Defence Ministry spokesman Maj-Gen. Mohammed al-Askari said troop reinforcements sent to Mosul by Prune Minister Nouri al-Maliki for a "final war" against al-Qaida had arrived. He declined to give details of the number of reinforcements.
"We have sent many soldiers, vehicles and tanks to Mosul at the request of our commanders there," he said. "They have been sent to Mosul to clean it of al-Qaida."
On Friday, Mr al-Maliki promised a "decisive battle" against the jihadists in Nineveh province after two days of deadly bomb attacks in Mosul, the provincial capital.
"We have formed an operations centre in Nineveh for a final war against al-Qaida and the remnants of the former (Saddam Hussein) regime," Mr al-Maliki said. "What we have planned in Nineveh will be final. It will be a decisive battle."
At least 35 people were killed and 217 were wounded in a bomb attack last Wednesday that destroyed houses in west Mosul. #
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[RECAPITULATION: He said 90 per cent of "suicide murders inflicted on Iraqi people are committed by foreign fighters brought in by al-Qaida in Iraq to spread destruction."
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Foreigners brought in, just like imperialists in every age? Is this Allah's will?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[EXPLANATION: "Islamic State of Iraq" is an unofficial group, not a government. Like similarly-named groups in non-Muslim countries, its intention is to replace elections with the rule of mullahs and imams – or those who can stay alive!
ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION: Sheikh Samarraie appealed to Islamic scholars around the world to declare such attacks contrary to sharia, or Islamic law.
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Come on, Sheikh, read the Koran, the Hadith, the Sira (life of Mohammed), Shariah Law, and rulings expressed on January 15, 2007 in the Channel 4 Dispatches exposé! Killing people IS the faith!
ENDS.]
[Jan 29, 08]
Pakistani pastor murdered in Pakistan's North West Frontier Province: Part of a pattern of anti-Christian threats and violence
The Barnabas Fund (London) Copyright ©,
www.barnabas fund.org:80/ News/archives/ text.php?ID_ news_items=382 , (Occurred on Jan 17, 2008))
January 29, 2008
PESHAWAR (North West Frontier Province), Pakistan - On January 17 a church minister, Sajid William, was shot dead in Peshawar, the capital city of the province. Islamic radicals are suspected.
[Look below for article on Jan 29; murder occurred Jan 17, 08]
Push to free Afghan reporters held for blasphemy.
- Kambakhsh, Zalmai/Zalmay exposed misogyny, arrested.
Push to free Afghan reporters held for blasphemy
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 52, Saturday, January 19, 2008
AFGHANISTAN -
Reporters Without Borders has urged the Afghan Government to release two journalists accused of blasphemy, for which conservative religious clerics have demanded the death penalty.
The international media watchdog said yesterday it was concerned about the fate of the men, arrested separately about two months ago.
Sayed Perwiz Kambakhsh, 23, was arrested in northern Afghanistan in late October on charges of blasphemy and defaming Islam for distributing
articles about the role of women in Muslim society the group said.
Mohammad Ghaws Zalmai, in his 40s, was arrested in November while trying to escape to Pakistan after distributing a translation of the Koran alleged to "misinterpret" parts of the Muslim holy book.
"Afghan journalists are exposed to threats and harassment from religious fundamentalists who try to prevent any debate about Islam and the status of women," the media group said.
"Reporters Without Borders appeals to the international community to intercede with the Afghan Government and seek the release of Kambakhsh and Zalmay."
Afghanistan's new democratic Constitution enshrines freedom of expression but is based on sharia, or Islamic law, which can be interpreted as demanding severe punishments for acts considered "un-Islamic". #
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[HADITH: 1, 6:301:
[ … ] The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
< www.usc.edu/dept/ MSA/fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/006.sbt. html#001.006.301 >
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Afghanistan was invaded by the Coalition of the Killing in order to find Osama Bin Laden, "Wanted dead or alive," but after a while the focus shifted to oil-rich Iraq. But then the Coalition leaders and other countries claimed that they were leaving some troops and reconstruction workers in Afghanistan to bring "democracy" to the Afghans. Yes, first let us study the Muslim scripture's doctrines denigrating women -- click: Koran Key, Women.
Why are we risking valuable Australian, British, American, and other nations' lives for a population that practices stoning people to death? The "Christian" Europeans used to have public executions and floggings until modern times, and it was long after the Enlightenment before "Christian" governments grudgingly retreated from these barbaric practices. So, let the Muslim peoples reform themselves; why try to modernise people who are still living in the Dark Ages? "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear."
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Jan 19, 08]
[Bali bombers deserve painful death.] I disagree.
[Bali bombers deserve painful death]
I DISAGREE
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor, p 22, Saturday, January 19, 2008
Abu Bakar Bashir claims that the Bali bombers have redeemed their sins by fasting for two months (report 16/1). How can fasting be seen as an eye for an eye for a disgraceful act?
Even Iran's controversial stoning punishment would be too good a death for these cowards. #
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[Jan 19, 08]
Saudi couple's divorce agony; Fatima's world comes crashing down as Islamic laws end her marriage with a knock at the door
Saudi couple’s divorce agony
Fatima's world comes crashing down as Islamic laws end her marriage with a knock at the door
The West Australian,
p 34, Wednesday, January 23, 2008
SAUDI ARABIA -
Two years ago, a knock on Fatima and Mansour al-Timani's door shattered the life they had built together.
It was the police, delivering news that a judge had annulled their marriage in absentia after some of Fatima's relatives sought the divorce on grounds she had married beneath her.
It was the beginning of an ordeal for a couple who, under Saudi Arabia's strict segregation rules, can no longer live together. They sued to reverse the ruling, publicised their story and sought help from a Saudi human rights group.
But the two remain apart and Fatima is considering suicide if her recent appeal to King Abdullah does not reunite her with her husband.
"Only the king can resolve my case," Fatima said. "I want to return to my husband but, if that is not possible, I need to know so I can put an end to my life."
Fatima's case underscores shortcomings in the kingdom's Islamic legal system, in which rules of evidence are shaky, lawyers are not always present and sentences often depend on the whim of judges.
The most frequent, and recently most high-profile, victims of the rules are women, who already suffer severe restrictions on daily life in Saudi Arabia. They cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission.
Recently, the king intervened and pardoned another high-profile defendant - a rape victim who was sentenced to lashes and
imprisonment for being in a car with a man who was not her relative.
The two cases have thrust Saudi human rights into the international spotlight again. They have revealed not only the weakness of the kingdom's justice system but the scant rights Saudi women have.
"When I heard that the rape victim was pardoned, I couldn't believe it," Fatima said. "My case is so much simpler than hers, since my divorce is invalid."
Fatima said her husband, a hospital administrator, followed Saudi tradition in asking her father for permission to marry her in 2003.
"My brother reported good things about him, so my dad accepted his proposal," Fatima, a computer specialist, said.
She said her father knew that Mansour came from a less prominent tribe than hers but that he did not mind because he "cared about the man himself".
A few months after the wedding, several of Fatima's relatives persuaded her father to give them power of attorney to file a lawsuit demanding an annulment, she said.
Then her father died and Fatima said she had hoped the case would be dropped.
But, on February 25, 2006, police knocked on the couple's door to serve Mansour with divorce papers which said his marriage had been annulled nine months earlier.
Saudi lawyer Abdul-Rahman al-Lahem, who used to represent the couple, said local interpretations of Islamic law held that relatives of a married couple had the right to seek an annulment if they felt the marriage lowered the extended family's status.
Fatima took the couple's two-year-old daughter and four-month-old son to live with her mother. But, after three months, they sneaked out of her mother's house and fled with Mansour to the city of Jeddah, where they sought to live in anonymity.
Police soon found them and imprisoned the family for living together illegally.
"The police told me I either return to my mother's family or go to jail," Fatima said. "I chose jail."
Mansour went to a Riyadh appeals court but it upheld the divorce ruling last year.
Last September, Bandar al-Hajjar, head of the National Society of Human Rights, asked the kingdom's highest court to review the case and submitted two Islamic studies concluding that the divorce was invalid.
The studies said that if a woman's legal guardian represented her at the original wedding, then other relatives had no right to object.
Both studies concluded that Fatima married Mansour with her father's permission and that only the wife could decide whether she wanted her marriage annulled.
Despite their legal fight, Fatima and Mansour remain apart, Fatima with her son and Mansour with their daughter.
Fatima said she is holding out hope the king might pardon her and recognise her as "married to Mansour, before God".
"I love him more than ever," she said. "He's the only one who has stood by me." #
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[RECAPITULATION: … a judge had annulled their marriage in absentia after some of Fatima's relatives sought the divorce on grounds she had married beneath her. [ … ]
[Women] cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission. [ … ]
She said her father knew that Mansour came from a less prominent tribe than hers but that he did not mind because he "cared about the man himself". [ … ]
… on February 25, 2006, police knocked on the couple's door to serve Mansour with divorce papers which said his marriage had been annulled nine months earlier. [ … ]
… relatives of a married couple had the right to seek an annulment if they felt the marriage lowered the extended family's status.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: So, the "universal religion" of Islam, in the country of its birth, is ruling that there are DIFFERENCES in STATUS between Arabian tribes! When Muslim missionaries convert non-Arabs, do they explain these status rules to the non-Arabs? Or do they pretend Islam is the coming
Allah-given religion for the whole globe? THINK! If one tribe is lower than another, where does that put NON-ARABS? Yes, even lower than that.
Divorced without being present at the hearing -- the obvious comment is that a woman also is MARRIED in Islam without being present at the ceremony! All the multicultural politically-correct people can't deceive people who make a study of these things. AND, if the men at the marriage paper-signing tell lies by saying that the woman has consented, when she has not, she is still, under a Hadith guideline, MARRIED, and the husband has the right to have sex! As often as he wants. And, if he suspects she is disobedient, under a Koran text, he can beat/scourge her!
In full-blown Shariah law, she has no right to seek a divorce, in spite of what reported comments are in the above news report.
Although the second heading said it was "Islamic laws" that ended her marriage, one suspects that it is Arab tribal male-dominance prejudice, masquerading as a cross between Islamic and Saudi laws, that is operating here. 1400 years of the "perfect" final prophet's religion, and childish injustice stalks the land! The wickedness of wars and the former suppression of women among Christian nations are a scandal, and the constant grinding down of women by Islam proves that it too is a human invention. The difference is that the Christians when suppressing and beating wives were defying their religious writings, but on the other hand Muslims are obeying their religious writings.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[HADITH: 9, 86. 98:] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A virgin should not be married till she is asked for her consent; and the matron should not be married till she is asked whether she agrees to marry or not." It was asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How will she (the virgin) express her consent?" He said, "By keeping silent." Some people said, "If a virgin is not asked for her consent and she is not married, and then a man, by playing a trick presents two false witnesses that he has married her with her consent and the judge confirms his marriage as a true one, and the husband knows that the witnesses were false ones, then there is
no harm for him to consummate his marriage with her and the marriage is regarded as valid."
009.086.098
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[KORAN: 4:34 (or 4:38):- Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which Allah hath gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because Allah hath of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness ye have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them;
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Although the Saudi king has overturned relgious and other courts' rulings, a strict observer of Islamic law would argue that no-one on earth has a right to over-rule a Shariah court. So "pious" people like Osama Bin Laden argue that the Saudi royal family are "hypocrites," -- read on.
ENDS.]
[2nd KORAN:
33:48 (or 33:47):- And obey not (the behests) of the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and heed not their annoyances, but put thy Trust in Allah. For enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
33:60:- If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbors in it but for a little
while.
66:9:- O Prophet! make war on the infidels and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. …
ENDS.]
[Jan 23, 08]
[Beheading girls, tricking 15-y-os into murdering tribal leaders and killing Yank, and millionaire's son says he's no terrorist.]
[Beheading girls, tricking 15-y-os into murdering tribal leaders and killing Yank, and millionaire's son says he's no terrorist.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Wednesday, January 23, 2008
Page 36 "JI broken by police attack on haven."
JAKARTA, Indonesia:

South-East Asia terror network Jemaah Islamiyah's haven Poso, Central Sulawesi, was raided a year ago. Terrorism expert [? Ms] Sidney Jones said Poso had been a hotbed of extremist Christian and Muslim violence for a decade. A report by International Crisis Group yesterday said Poso was "quieter and safer."
The Islamists there used to attack Christians, officials, and suspected informants.
The raid in January 2007 occurred following outrage at the beheading of three Christian schoolgirls in 2005.
The head of the JI military wing, Abu Dujana,
aka Ainul Bahri, and Zarkasi, aka Zuhroni, were arrested in Java in June, because of information from those arrested.
The authorities have offered $1000 for former prisoners to reform, are building a big Islamic boarding school, and offering training in car mechanics and furniture making to would-be extremists.
Key terrorists still on the loose include bombmaker Azhari Husin, who is wanted for killing 22 people in a market bombing in 2005.
Page 40 "Mum told bomber, 15: Paradise awaits."
BAGHDAD: Ali Hussein Allawi, a 15-year-old, previously thought to be 13, carried out a suicide bombing near Fallujah on Sunday. He took advantage of tribal ties to pass through tight security, in order to murder Sunni leaders now fighting against extremism.
Hadi Hussein, his brother, and four guards were murdered. Aeifan al-Issawi, of the Anbar Awakening Council, said he believed that he was the target. The al-Issawis tribal area stretches west of Baghdad through desert to the borders of Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan.
The boy's father was in al-Qaida, and had previously fled. Mr al-Issawi said that five of the boy's 22 uncles made confessions. The mother had told the boy: "God be with you and we will meet in paradise."
Page 50 "Child defence sought for terrorism suspect."
WASHINGTON: Lawyers for a suspected Canadian terrorist, Omar Khadr, want the charges to be dropped because al-Qaida recruited him when he was 15. Now 22, he is accused of killing a US soldier with a hand grenade as he was arrested for making explosives in Afghanistan in 2002.
A hearing was due at the Guantanamo naval base on February 4 to rule on the appeal, lawyers said. Canadian MsP and law experts back the argument that those who recruited him ought to be prosecuted, not the boy.
Page 50 "Osama's son tells him: Try another way."
WASHINGTON: Omar bin Laden, 26, a son of Osama bin Laden, in an interview telecast in the US on Monday, said that he wished his father would find another way, but he was not a terrorist.
"Before they call it war, now they call it terrorism"
As for the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US, he said: "I don't think that was right, personally, but it happened. I don't the war in Vietnam was right. I don't think what's going on in Palestine is right."
Omar is one of 19 children fathered by [Arabian millionaire] Osama. He is organising a horse race across North Africa to promote peace.
Page 50 "Britons jailed for card scam."
HONG KONG: Two Britons have begun a 40-month jail sentence in Hong Kong for withdrawing $HK380,000 ($AUD56,000) by using date stolen from 287 British bank accounts.
They are Nazir Zaheer Abbas and Raza Adhnan, both 23. [Grand old British names, those!]
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[COMMENT: Can any non-Muslim understand why these Islamists have little or no respect for Jews, Christians or others, nor for the property or lives of fellow-countrymen and co-religionists, such as officials and people shopping? It's as if they don't believe in peace, and don't care about life in this world.
Read on.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
6:32:-
Nothing is the life of this world, but play and amusement. But best is the Home in the Hereafter …
8:65 (or 8:66):- O Prophet! urge the believers to war …
12:106:- The majority of those who believe in Allah do not do so without committing idol worship.
66:9:- O Prophet! make war on the infidels and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[FOLLOW-UP COMMENT: Which Muslim defines which other Muslim is "committing idol worship" or is a "hypocrite"? Well, it won't be some peacelover! And, if a mistake is made, the killers can say their religion teaches them that life in the Hereafter is better than on earth! Even the Calabrian and Sicilian Mafia have not had the cheek to try to put a religious mask over mass murder like this!
ENDS.]
[Jan 23, 08]
Pakistani pastor murdered in North West Frontier Province: Part of a pattern of anti-Christian threats and violence
Pakistani pastor murdered in North West Frontier Province:
Part of a pattern of anti-Christian threats and violence
The Barnabas Fund (London) Copyright ©,
www.barnabas fund.org:80/ News/archives/ text.php?ID_ news_items=382 ,
January 29, 2008
PAKISTAN - Threatened by murder, kidnapping and intimidation, Christians are coming under pressure both from lawlessness and from Islamic radicalism in Pakistan's North West Frontier Province which borders Afghanistan. Most recently, on January 17th a church minister, Sajid William, was shot dead in Peshawar, the capital city of the province.
Over recent years the North West Frontier Province has steadily become a hotbed of Islamic radicalism. The strength of Islamic radicalism throughout Pakistan was recently indicated by the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. As well as the murder of Sajid William, there have been many recent attacks on the North West Frontier Province's Christians. There have been several cases in recent months of Christians being kidnapped in the province, often by militants or criminals linked to Taliban, who demand ransoms or the release of militants held in Pakistani jails. Christian schools have suffered bomb attacks for failing to adhere to Islamic values. The continuing persecution of Christians in the province was shown by the series of threats made against Christians in 2007 to convert to Islam or be killed. [link to earlier reports]
The North West Frontier Province is home to a tiny Christian minority comprising just 0.25% of the province's population. (This compares with a Christian population of around 2.5% in Pakistan as a whole.) The increasing power of the Taliban in the region and the failure of central government to control the area have meant that Christians are becoming exposed to increasing danger. In 2003 provincial legislators unanimously passed a bill giving shari'a (Islamic law) precedence over secular provincial law. Militants have also enforced an unofficial parallel justice system based on extreme versions of shari'a. This has placed great pressure on minorities.
Christians blamed for acts of radical criminal gangs
The situation for Christians is increasingly difficult throughout all of Pakistan. A Barnabas contact in the Punjab region, which borders India, recently explained that in one village criminal gangs, linked to the Islamist radical group Lashkar-i-Taiba, have been trying to pass the blame for their crimes on to Christians. The police have colluded with the criminals in blaming the Christians for crimes they did not commit. Christians, therefore, feel very vulnerable as the authorities are not willing to protect them.
Meanwhile, in Pakistan the growing threat to Christians was highlighted by the recent killing of the elder brother of Younis Tasadaq in January. Younis Tasadaq had been accused under the "blasphemy law" in 1998, but was released and managed to escape to America in 1999. In 2007 he returned to Pakistan, and it is believed that Islamic radicals discovered he was back in the country and assassinated his brother, Simon, whom they mistook for Younis. So far police have refused to register the case, claiming it was suicide.
Dr Patrick Sookhdeo, International Director of Barnabas Fund, comments: "Christian minorities in Pakistan need our prayers, especially the beleaguered Christians of the North West Frontier Province, who face the pressure of shari'a as well as the violence of Islamic militants. I am thankful to the Lord for their faithfulness and courage in the face of such sustained pressure."
Please join with us in prayer --
1. Pray for the grieving families of Sajid William and Simon Tasadaq and for all who knew them.
2. Pray for courage and hope for Pakistani Christians, many of whom have received death threats.
3. Thank the Lord for their faithfulness to Him, that they would rather die than convert to Islam.
Copyright © Barnabas Fund - 29th January 2008 #
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[KORAN:
2:193 (or 2:189):- … Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
8:12:- … I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura8.html #12 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[murdered on Jan 17, published on Jan 29, 2008]
Court told of bloody UK plot.
[Guilty plea to planning to cut head off fellow-Muslim; others sending equipment to continue disorders in Pakistan-Afghan border.]
Terror accused was so enraged by Muslims in the British army, he planned to kidnap one and cut his head off
Court told of bloody UK plot
The West Australian,
p 28, Thursday, January 31, 2008
LONDON - A man who plotted to kidnap and kill a Muslim soldier in the British army by cutting off his head "like a pig", was enraged by Muslims serving in the British army, a court has been told.
Parviz Khan, a 37-year-old Briton, pleaded guilty this month to a series of charges including the beheading plot, which was foiled by police and the MI5 security service a year ago. Media had been barred from reporting Khan's plea until Tuesday when a trial of two other men opened in the central English city of Leicester.
News of the plot leaked to the media last year, prompting parallels with al-Qaida hostage killings in Iraq.
Prosecutor Nigel Rumfitt told the jury to ignore what they had heard. While Khan and the other defendants were Muslims, "this is not a prosecution of the Islamic faith", he said.
Khan was "a man who has the most violent and extreme Islamist views" who wanted to get physically involved in acts of terrorism, Mr Rumfitt said.
"He was enraged by the idea that there were Muslim soldiers in the British army, some of them Muslims from The Gambia in West Africa."
Khan decided to kidnap such a soldier with the help of drug dealers operating in the central English city of Birmingham. The victim was to be seized while enjoying a night out and bundled into a car, Mr Rumfitt said.
"He would be taken to a lock-up garage and there he would be murdered by having his head cut off like a pig," he said. The atrocity would be filmed and distributed to spread panic and fear in the British armed forces and the public.
Mr Rumfitt said Khan had asked a Gambian man, Basiru Gassama, to help him find a suitable victim. There was no evidence Mr Gassama had provided such help but he pleaded guilty this month to failing to disclose his knowledge of the plot to authorities.
Another man, Amjab Mahmood, faces the same charge in the trial that opened on Tuesday. He and a co-defendant, Zahoor Iqbal, are charged with working alongside Khan and others to supply equipment to help militants on the Pakistan-Afghan border fighting Western coalition troops. The men were "actively assisting terrorists who were trying to kill our soldiers, as well as those of our allies the US and Canada", Mr Rumfitt said.
He said the shipments included sophisticated electronic and other equipment such as computer hard drives, range-finders, night-vision gear and surveillance detectors. Some of the material was sent out under the guise of earthquake relief to Pakistan.
The jury was told how details of the beheading plot emerged from the bugging of Khan's home by the British security service.
Mr Rumfitt said Mr Mahmood should have told authorities but failed to do so. Mr Iqbal is not charged in connection with the beheading plot.
[Picture] Guilty: Parviz Khan.
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[RECAPITULATION: Some of the material was sent out under the guise of earthquake relief to Pakistan. ENDS.]
[KORAN:
9:73:- O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.
33:60:- If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbours in it but for a little while.
66:2:- Allah hath allowed you release from your oaths. …
66:9:- O Prophet! make war on the infidels and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
4, 53:386:-
Narrated Jubair bin Haiya:
Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans. When Al-Hurmuzan embraced Islam, Umar said to him. "I would like to consult you regarding these countries which I intend to invade." [ … ]
Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute); and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:- "Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master." [ … ]
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[Jan 31, 08]
War, Subjugation and Expansion
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
Review by Professor Johannes J.G.Jansen, p 3, January-February 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 3 JANUARY / FEBRUARY 2008
Plain Speaking on Jihad from a leading scholar of Islam
WAR, SUBJUGATION AND EXPANSION
By Johannes J. G. Jansen,
The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims
Edited by Andrew G. Bostom,Amherst, N.Y.: Prometheus, 2005, 759pp.
BOSTOM, an associate professor of medicine at Rhode Island Hospital, has compiled a large collection of documents concerning jihad in his voluminous
The Legacy of
Jihad. Bostom's book amply documents the systematic and destructive character of Islamic jihad, refuting the much-repeated argument that jihad is a "rich" concept that has many meanings and that jihad first of all signifies "inner struggle." Jihad is first of all war, bloodshed, subjugation, and expansion of the faith by violence. The book implicitly devastates the fashionable but uninformed opinion that all religions are elaborations of the Golden Rule. Jihad is everything the Golden Rule is not.
Jihad has been extremely effective and has served Islam well. In the light of this success, it can hardly be expected from Muslim leaders that they renounce jihad for more peaceful methods for propagating their faith. Renunciation of jihad would simply not be in the interest of Islam. But it would, to the contrary, be very much in the interest of the rest of the world. How should the rest of the world react to Muslim insistence on the legitimacy of jihad? Do modern, free, and democratic societies have the stomach to withstand jihad? This question becomes more and more important when jihadists see themselves increasingly not as an alternative to Christianity, Judaism, or any other faith but as an alternative to democracy. One almost gets the impression that present-day jihadists fervently desire to add Islam to the list that starts with Nazism and communism.
Bostom not only presents us with classical mainstream Islamic sources and their justifications for jihad, plus witness reports from victims that survived by accident, etc., but he also quotes contemporary Muslim clerics. For example: Yusuf al-Qaradawi (b. 1926) discusses "martyrdom operations," a relatively new tactic of jihadists. Are such operations jihad or suicide? This is an important question because Islam
forbids suicide. Luckily Qaradawi, regarded by many in the West as a moderate, knows the exact difference between suicide and a martyrdom operation. Someone who kills himself is "too weak to cope with the situation" in which he finds himself. "In contrast, the one who carries out a martyrdom operation does not think of himself. He sells himself to Allah in order to buy Paradise in exchange."
If this is how the moderates reason, what can we expect from the radicals?
– Professor Jansen's review of Andrew Bostom's book appeared first in Middle East Quarterly, Winter 2008. Reprinted with permission.
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[KORAN: 3:157-158:- And if ye shall be slain or die on the path of Allah, then pardon from Allah and mercy is better than all your amassings; For if ye die or be slain, verily unto Allah shall ye be gathered.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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[ALSO SEE: Middle East Forum, which seems to have the same wording as the Middle East Quarterly WWW homepage. ENDS.]
[Jan-Feb 2008]
Delusions about Islamists.
Delusions about Islamists
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
p 8, January-February 2008
NON-MUSLIM priests of enlightenment in the West have come, actively and passively, to the Islamists' defence. These "progressives" frequently cite the need to examine "root causes."
In this they are correct: Terrorism is only the manifestation of a disease and not the disease itself. But the root-causes are quite different from what they think.
- Tawfik Hamid, The Wall Street Journal, Tuesday, April 3, 2007. A onetime member of Jemaah Islamiya, an Islamist terrorist group, Dr Hamid is a medical doctor. #
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[Jan-Feb 2008]
War against Muslim Women and others.
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 8 JANUARY-FEBRUARY 2008
War against Muslim Women and others
Annals Australasia,
annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
Letter from "INFORMED OBSERVER" {NAME SUPPLIED}, Perth, WA, p 8, January-February 2008.
Congratulations on your issue of November-December 2007, which told us that an aggressive Islamist group is seeking permission to build Europe's largest mosque in London, to be near the proposed site of the 2012 Olympics. We also learn that the Brick Lane Mosque was originally a Huguenot Christian church, later Methodist, and later a Jewish Synagogue. It is now a Muslim mosque.
The UK
Telegraph
reported [Dec 9, 2007] that when Miss "Sofia Allam" of Dagenham in London left the Muslim faith for Christianity both her parents started verbally attacking her, made death threats and ordered her out of the house, calling her a Kaffir (i.e., infidel). They brought all her uncles around to browbeat her.
After three weeks of bullying she left. An ex-Muslims' organisation said that some of the supposed 'honour killings' in Britain were possibly due to changing religion. Death threats are also reported by ex-Muslim leaders in Holland and Germany. In Canada, we read in
The West Australian of December 14, Miss Aqsa Parvez was strangled, allegedly by her father, for repeatedly taking off her hijab (head-scarf, or veil) when she got to high school. And on January 13, 2008 the
Independent-on Sunday (UK) reported that on Friday a coroner had ruled that 17-year-old Miss Shafilea Ahmed was 'unlawfully killed' and that 'the concept of an arranged marriage was central to the circumstances of her death'.
So, Father Stenhouse and colleagues, do not weaken in your resolve to report and comment on the grave danger that civilisation faces from the Islamist onslaught, just as your book {
The Conquest of Abyssinia} reports what happened to the people of Abyssinia (Ethiopia) years ago.
Well done,
Annals, for your scholarly educational work on this subject.
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[Jan-Feb 2008]
Former Muslims Speak Out.
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
p 17, January-February 2008
We discovered that Islam is beyond alteration, because Muslims who attempt to modernize and reform its unremitting bigotry, mindless rituals and its barbaric and draconian punitive measures are targeted for annihilation.
Our verdict was that the only way to escape from the tyranny of Islam is to leave it for good.
That is why we discarded Islam from our lives – to be free, to enjoy a normal, pleasant and humane life, in complete harmony with all people on earth irrespective of their religion, race or creed.
Let the world watch Islam through < www.islam- watch.org > and be warned. #
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[COMMENT: "Unremitting bigotry" – Yes, "bigotry" is an old-fashioned word that used to be used in the complaints of Roman Catholics in Australia etc. regarding the discrimination practised against them by the majority population of Anglicans and Protestants. The writer of the above has "hit the nail on the head" – Islamic ways ARE bigotry – with murderous intent.
Ex-Muslims would know what "mindless rituals" can do to anyone who is a thinker.
The "barbaric and draconian" punishments are crying out for divine retribution, but, alas, He does not move. Some of the people dealing out whippings, stonings, beheadings, hangings, etc., are hypocrites.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[LOOK FORWARD: "Moral leader 'in brothel'." TEHRAN: Brig-Gen. Ali Reza Zarei, 53, the Tehran police chief, who led a crackdown on women failing to adhere to Iran's Islamic dress codes, was said to have been with six prostitutes when he was detained by members of his own force two weeks ago.
– The West Australian, p 12, March 17, 2008.
ENDS.]
[Jan-Feb 2008]
Pope Benedict XVI and dialogue with Muslims. Islam. Intellectual and Moral Rot undermining High Places.
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
by Samir Khalil Samir, pp 20-25, January-February 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 20-25 JANUARY / FEBRUARY 2008
Islam
Intellectual and Moral Rot undermining High Places
POPE BENEDICT XVI AND DIALOGUE WITH MUSLIMS
By Samir Khalil Samir, SJ
Vatican representatives and Muslim thinkers will meet in Rome next March to hammer
out a few guidelines for dialogue between Christians and Muslims. There is a risk
of hollowness or falsity if the dialogue addresses theology alone, and not the concrete problems of the two communities.
THE masterful lecture by the pope in Regensburg, so widely criticised by much of the Muslim (and also Western) world, is producing positive results in the very domain of dialogue with the Muslim world. Following the address in Regensburg (September 12, 2006), 38 Muslim scholars sent an initial letter in response (October 13, 2006), and a year later a second letter (signed by 138 scholars, whose number has since grown to 216) in an effort to find common ground of collaboration between Christians and Muslims.
From Jihad to Slavery
The jihad slave system included contingents of both sexes delivered annually in conformity with the treaties of submission by sovereigns who were tributaries of the caliph. When Amr conquered Tripoli {Libya} in 643, he forced the Jewish and Christian Berbers to give their wives and children as slaves to the Arab army as part of their jizya {tax on non-Muslims}. From 652 until its conquest in 1276, Nubia was forced to send an annual contingent of slaves to Cairo. Treaties concluded with the towns of Transoxiana, Sijistan, Armenia, and Fezzan (Maghreb) under the Umayyads and Abbasids stipulated an annual dispatch of slaves from both sexes. However, the main sources for the supply of slaves remained the regular raids on villages within the dar-al-harb {House of War, i.e., non-Islamic regions} and the military expeditions which swept more deeply into the infidel lands, emptying towns and provinces of their inhabitants.
– Bat Ye'or, The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude, Fairleigh Dickinson University Press, 1996, p. 108.
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In his turn, last November 19 Benedict XVI [Ratzinger] responded to the letter of the 138, opening teh way to possible collaboration in various areas. A few weeks ago (December 12, 2007), in a letter to Cardinal Bertone, Jordanian prince Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal agreed to lay the groundwork for collaboration: between February and March, personalities of the Vatican curia and of the Islamic world will meet in Rome to establish the procedures and subject matter of this dialogue. But it's possible that all this work will go right down the drain. It seems to me, in fact, that the Muslim personalities who are in contact with the pope want to dodge fundamental and concrete questions, like human rights, reciprocity, violence, etc, to ensconce themselves in an improbable
theological dialogue "on the soul and God". Let's take a closer look at the problems that have emerged.
1. The Letter of the 138: "A Common Word between Us and You"
The letter" of the 138 is full of goodwill: the Islamic scholars say they want to look "at what unites" Islam, Christianity, and the other religions. They have even made an effort to express themselves in "Christian" terms, saying that the heart of religion is "loving God and neighbour". Islam does not express itself in this manner. This is an expression of the Old Testament, resumed by Jesus in a more realistic, concrete, and universal sense in the parable of the good Samaritan (Luke 10:23-37). Jesus says two important things: first of all, he ranks the first commandment as "equal" to the second (and this was not so clear even in the Old Testament); in the second place, he clarifies who the neighbour is -- he is not the one "closest to me" (as expressed by the Muslim intellectuals in the Arabic version of their letter, using the word
jâr, close), but the one to whom I make myself "neighbour". The Gospel, in fact, overturns the question of the scribe ("who is my neighbour?") and asks who behaved as a "neighbour" to the dying man. The neighbour is therefore every human person, including one's enemy, as the Samaritan was for the Jews.
In the Gospel one often finds parables in which Jesus overturns common values: the Pharisee and the tax collector, the pagans with respect to the Jews, the child with respect to the adult.
The greatest danger of the letter of the 138 is in its silences, in what it does not address: there is no reference, for example, to the problems of the international community in regard to the Muslim community, or to the real problems within the Muslim community. The Ummah finds itself at a very delicate point, in a phase of widespread extremism and radicalism among a significant segment of Muslims, which is a form of exclusivity: those who do not think as we do are our enemies. This is evident every day in the Muslim press, and we see violence and attacks in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, among Sunni and Shiite Muslims, or against Christians or Jews, or simply against tolerant Muslims – and they do exist!
A Key Question
IT IS IRONIC and discouraging that many non-Muslim, Western intellectuals - who unceasingly claim to support human rights - have become obstacles to reforming Islam. Political correctness among Westerners obstructs unambiguous criticism of Shariah's inhumanity.
They find socioeconomic or political excuses for Islamist terrorism such as poverty, colonialism, discrimination or the existence of Israel. What incentive is there for Muslims to demand reform when Western 'progressives' pave the way for Islamist barbarity?
Indeed, if the problem is not one of religious beliefs, it leaves one to wonder why Christians who live among Muslims under identical circumstances refrain from contributing to wide-scale, systematic campaigns of terror.
– Tawfik Hamid, The Wall Street Journal,
Tuesday, April 3, 2007. A onetime member of Jemaah Islamiya, an Islamist
terrorist group led by al Qaeda's second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Dr Hamid is a medical doctor.
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The danger for Islam is not violence: this is present all over the world and in all religions and ideologies. The danger is that of justifying all this through religion. Even certain forms of violence against women and their rights are justified using the Qur'an. For example, I know a Muslim woman who cannot get a divorce, because divorce is the husband's right; she can only ask for the favour of being repudiated by him. He, on the basis of the Qur'an, can also remarry (up to four wives) and make a new life for himself, but the woman, who lives apart, does not have this right. She, a young wife, complained to me because "there is no justice". These situations, in which one uses the Qur'an or sharia law to exclude the other, are frequent.
II. The pope's response: four areas of collaboration
In the reply from the pontiff - sent through Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Vatican secretary of state - Benedict XVI expresses "deep appreciation" for the positive spirit that inspired the letter of the 138, and for the appeal for joint action to promote peace in the world.
Having said this, the pope suggests seeking what the two sides have in common. But the elements are not identical. First of all, he makes an annotation: they should seek what they have in common "without ignoring or downplaying our differences". This means that for the pope there are differences between the two communities that must be taken into account, not hidden: we can be brothers and different, brothers who disagree. This is a golden rule in the area of religion and dogma.
In the letter of the 138, it is suggested that what is held "in common" is faith in one God. The Islamic thinkers cite the Qur'an itself when they say "Come to a common word between us and you", which requires that nothing be placed alongside of God. But this is addressed to Christians, who place Jesus Christ next to God.
For the pope, the "things in common" exist, but differences exist as well, and these must be kept in mind. The pope lists three of these "common things":
- belief in the one God, the provident Creator;
- God, the universal Judge "who at the end of time will deal with each person according to his or her actions";
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- we are called "to commit ourselves totally to him and to obey his sacred will".
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The pope then proposes a concrete application: the formation of a dialogue group that would seek common ground. This terrain must be found on a number of levels:
a) The first is that of identifying values capable of guaranteeing "mutual respect, solidarity and peace". "Respect" here also means that there are differences that must be guaranteed and welcomed. For example, a Muslim can say to a Christian: I do not agree with what you believe, that Jesus has a human and divine nature. You Christians are polytheists, because you place other gods, your Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, beside the one God. I say: let us seek to live in mutual respect. You have the full right to say that the Islamic conception excludes the Trinity, the divine-humanity. But leave me the right to say, for example, that Mohammed was not sent by God. I can acknowledge that he was a great personality on the human and political level, a social and spiritual reformer, that he also brought negative contributions, but not that he was a prophet. Do I have the right to say that, or not? As you have the right to say that you do not believe in the divinity of Christ - and in this you are consistent in your faith - we, too, have the right to say what we think about Mohammed.
3 In short, there is no such thing as a "taboo" topic, but there are only taboo means and methods, because these are violent and disrespectful.
b) The other level is that of human life as "sacred". This ethical dimension embraces a very wide field, which ranges from the rejection of abortion to the natural end of human life. But it also includes non-violence, which is one of the noblest forms of respect for human life. And it also means love for all the works of human culture and progress: for equality among men, for human rights - a respect for life and for what helps it to emerge and flourish. In his address to the Roman curia on December 22, 2006, the pope said: "one must welcome the true conquests of the Enlightenment, human rights and especially the freedom of faith and its practice, and recognize these also as being essential elements for the authenticity of religion".
For Benedict XVI, "the content of the dialogue between Christians and Muslims will be at this
time especially one of meeting each other in this commitment to find the right solutions". And together with Muslims, to work "to oppose violence and for the synergy between faith and reason, between religion and freedom". The foundation is "the dignity of every human person", expressed by human rights.
At this point, the pope suggests four topics to the 138:
1) Human rights. This is the first foundation of dialogue;
2) Objective knowledge of the religion of the other. This means knowing the other for who he defines himself to be. The Christian must know Islam for what the Qur'an and modern Muslims define it to be; the Muslim must know Christianity through the Gospels and the teaching of the Church.
4 Objective knowledge is fundamental for a real relationship.
3) Sharing of religious experience. This element has not been emphasized until now. Religious experience is more than knowledge. It recognises that even if the other's dogma is not my own, he can enrich me from a human and spiritual point of view. A few days ago, while flying from Beirut to Paris, I had a chance to talk for three hours with a young African woman returning from Mecca, where she had been on pilgrimage. It was a beautiful and profound conversation. And it helped us to appreciate, but also to correct, the .image that we have of each other.
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4) A commitment to educating the young. If we do not prepare the young to live out this reciprocal respect today, tomorrow we may find ourselves still in conflict with among ourselves.
This ends our look at the pope's letter: brief, but very dense, a sign of his profound reflection.
III. The reply to the pope from Chazi Ibn Talal: only theological dialogue
The reply of the 138, signed by Ghazi Ibn Talal, prince of Jordan, is dated December 12, 2007. After a few introductory remarks, the letter says that they accept the idea of dialogue, and that in March they will send some of their representatives to specify the organisational and procedural details.
But then (in the fifth paragraph of the text) they propose a distinction between intrinsic and extrinsic, and explain: "By 'intrinsic' I mean that which refers to our own souls and their inner make-up, and by 'extrinsic' I mean that which refers to the world and thus to society". They propose starting on the basis of the letter that they wrote, "A Common Word Between Us and You", and concentrating on "the unicity of God and the twofold commandment of love of God and neighbor". Everything else belongs to the extrinsic dimension, including social concerns.
Honestly, I find this distinction weak and even un-Islamic. Because if "intrinsic" is the soul and "extrinsic" is the world and society, then the Qur'an speaks a great deal of "extrinsic" things, and very little of "intrinsic" things.
The End Justifying the Means
Muslims naturally saw in the [Islamic] conquest armies the hand of God, [and] His hand was providential. In His infinite mercy, God had restored monotheism to Arabia; Muhammad's followers, inspired as they were by their direct acquaintance with God's final prophet, responded to God's injunction to 'fight in the way of God'.
To Christians (and some Jews), the conquests were proof that Muhammad's claim to prophecy was a lie, for, as one very early Christian put it,
'Do prophets come with a sword?' (the answer was: no).
To Muslims, the conquests were proof that Muhammad's claims were true, for God had sent Muhammad to make his religion prevail (Qur'an 9:33 and 61:9), and this was exactly what God had had them do.'
– Islamic Historiography, Chase F. Robinson, Cambridge Universty Press, 2003 p. 131.
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The Qur'an talks about the
world, commerce, life in society, war, marriage, etc., but it says very little about the soul and one's relationship with God. But above all, the Qur'an never makes this distinction. On the contrary; the problem of Islam is precisely that of not making any sort of distinction between these two levels. Why in the world do the 138 want to address only "intrinsic" things? I think they're afraid of confronting the complete reality of the two religions.
Ghazi's reply continues: "It is on this common intellectual and spiritual basis, then, that we understand that we are to pursue, God Willing, a dialogue in the three general topics of dialogue Your Eminence wisely mentioned in
your letter: (1) 'Effective respect for the dignity of every human person'; (2) 'Objective knowledge of the religion of the other" through "sharing of religious experience" and (3) 'A common commitment to promoting mutual respect and acceptance among the younger generation'".
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The prince continues with an exhortation to dialogue, citing a conference organised by the Community of Sant'Egidio.
And finally, they distance themselves from "some recent pronouncements emerging from the Vatican and from Vatican advisors - which cannot have escaped the notice of Your Eminence - as regards the very principle of theological dialogue". I think that the persons to whom they are referring are Cardinal Tauran (and perhaps Fr Christian W. Troll and myself), who have expressed our reservations about the possibility of theological dialogue between Christians and Muslims.
The prince himself says that he maintains as "inherently" impossible "complete theological agreement between Christians and Muslims", but that in spite of this he wants dialogue on this level, "whether we wish to call {it} 'theological' or 'spiritual' or something else - for the sake of the common good and towards the good of the whole world, God Willing".
The prince thus reaffirms his commitment to collaboration on the theological and spiritual level. And there is an ambiguity here: Islam, more than Christianity, blends the theological with the political, and even with the military. And here they claim to speak only of the theological. In all probability, there is some theologian behind Ghazi's thought. I think of an interview with professor Aref Ali Nayed, conducted by Catholic News Service last October 31 and reprinted by "Islamica Magazine" - in the interview, he stated, "Many Muslim theologians are not just interested in mere ethical dialogue … If dialogue is to be serious, it must be theologically and spiritually deep".
A few months ago, he also affirmed that his conception of dialogue "excludes everything that is not theological and spiritual". But honestly, this distinction cannot be made:
the human and social consequences of theological positions cannot be avoided.
IV. Conclusion
To sum up, then, we must say that some important good results for dialogue are beginning to appear. And it must be recalled that everything began from Regensburg, from that masterful lecture that seemed to have destroyed any basis for dialogue, but instead revived it.
The address in Regensburg was built upon the reign of reason as the foundation of dialogue. This presupposes all of the adaptation of the religions in the face of Enlightenment principles, but without impoverishing reason. In short, the foundation of everything is not religion, but the human reason that is common to all human beings.
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The Regensburg address begins from precisely this problem: how can a common foundation be found for humanity and the religions, including Islam?
In the modern state, the common foundation is expressed with the universal declaration of human rights, of freedom of religion, etc … In dialogue between Christians and Muslims, too, these must be taken as the basis of dialogue; otherwise we will achieve nothing. In the past, many Muslim theologians have rejected the universal declaration of human rights, and have drafted an "Islamic" declaration, accusing the "universal" one of being only "Western". But this denies that there can be universality, and therefore denies that we can have common principles. This is the foundation of the conflict between the Islamic world and the West, or the rest of the world.
Islam, Booty and Slavery
Historian Speros Vryonis observes that 'since the beginning of the Arab razzias [raids] into the land of Rum [the Byzantine Empire], human booty had come to constitute a very important portion of the spoils.' As they steadily conquered more and more of Anatolia, the Turks reduced many of the Greeks and other non-Muslims there to slave status: They enslaved men, women, and children from all major urban centers and from the countryside where the populations were defenseless.'
The Indian historian K. S. Lal states that wherever jihadists conquered a territory, 'there developed a system of slavery peculiar to the clime, terrain and populace of the place.' When Muslim armies invaded India, 'its people began to be enslaved in droves to be sold in foreign lands or employed in various capacities on menial and not-so-menial jobs within the country.'
– 'The Persistence of Islamic Slavery' by Robert Spencer, FrontPageMagazine.com , July 20, 2007.
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Kofi Annan, when he was invited once by the Organisation of Islamic Countries to open a conference, stated clearly that there cannot be "Islamic", "African", "Christian", or "Buddhist" declarations of human rights. Either the declaration is universal, or it cannot exist.
But the letter of Prince Ghazi seems to say, instead, that human rights are not important, and are only a political question. Only theological dialogue is of interest. But what good does it do to talk about the one God, if I do not recognise that man has an absolute
dignity in the image of God? That freedom of conscience is sacred, that the believer has no more rights than the non-believer, that man has no more rights than woman, etc?
It must be affirmed that man comes before religion: respecting man comes before respect for religion. This is the Christian approach.
I would not like for some theologians, finding themselves in difficulty over the affirmation of the dignity of every man, to look for a way of escape in theological dialogue. This method risks producing nothing but falsehood. But this is a problem that also exists within Islam itself. Until this has based everything upon the human person and reinterpreted the faith in the light of human rights, it will never be modern.
In the two Islamic declarations on human rights, it is repeatedly affirmed that Islam admits human rights, "as long as these conform to the law". To an unsuspecting person who reads the English translation, this may seem to be just fine. The point is that for the English translation "law", the Arab versions say "conform to sharia". This means that the "Islamic" human rights risk re-proposing the usual injustices and violence: apostasy, blasphemy, stoning, injustice toward women and children, etc.
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Of course, interreligious dialogue cannot focus only upon human rights, but neither can it act as if there were not a serious problem precisely in this regard.
Let me conclude by citing a passage from the letter of Saint James (2:14-26), although it is a bit long. In this context it seems fairly important to me, both for the question in verse 19 and because it gives the example of "Abraham, the friend of God" (Khalil Allah, as we say in Arabic), who is so respected by the Muslims:
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well," but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it? So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
Indeed someone might say," "You have faith and I have works." Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works. You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble.
Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works.
Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God." See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route? For just as a body
without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
1. That we will be judged on our actions, on facts, is an idea common to Christians and Muslims. The Qur'an speaks of "those who believe in God and in the Last Day and who do good deeds" (2:62, 5:69). But this means that there is an ethical code that could also be held in common. Constructing a common ethics would be very important. Similar things have happened in the past. At the UN conference in Cairo on population and development, in 1994, the Vatican voted with the Islamic countries. Various ambassadors criticised the Holy See because it sided with the fundamentalists. In reality, on questions of the right to life, Christians and Muslims come together. The astonishment comes only from the secularised West, which has created a relativist ethics, leaving what is good and evil to the individual's subjective decision. This point requires urgent and extensive work.
2. The Muslim is perfectly comfortable hearing this, because for him obedience is the structure of life, it is abandonment to the will of God, islam. And for the Christian, too, dedication to God (and to men) is a great ideal. But the discussion of this point needs to be expanded and clarified: what does it mean that we are called "to dedicate ourselves completely"? For an Islamic extremist, dedicating oneself to God also means killing, strapping on a bomb, blowing oneself up. Here, too, there appears a difference between Christians and Muslims, and it demands attention: non-violence is a spiritual choice, not a political one.
3. We Christians living in the Arab world suffer greatly in this regard, because we are not permitted to say what we really think. Often the Muslims ask us for "an exchange of favours": we believe that Jesus was a prophet, so you should believe that Mohammed was a prophet.
4. In this mutual objective knowledge, the Muslims run the greater risk. Since Islam came after Christianity, and since there are references to Jesus, Mary, and Christians in the Qur'an, very often Muslims do not make an effort to understand Christianity for what Christians understand it to be, but content themselves with what the Qur'an says about it. But, the only way for Christians to discover Islam is by reading the Qur'an.
5. This means that we can share our religious sensibilities without renouncing our principles. Prayer together can also be considered. Many times in the past the criticism has been made of Ratzinger that he had a negative view of the meetings in Assisi, where since 1986 religious personalities have met together to pray. The controversy that has erupted so many times is whether persons of different religions should pray together. The position of the then-cardinal Ratzinger was that it was necessary to avoid anything that might suggest confusion or syncretism. But praying together, as the pope did in the mosque in Istanbul, is the height of respect and dialogue.
6. It should be noted that the recipients of the letter did not realise that the points cited by the pope are four, and not three: the sharing of religious experience, in the pope's text, is a third point. 10th-century Islamic thought had very clear ideas about this, and it respected a foundation common to all men. Later the Islamic world increasingly closed itself off, even against the rationalist Muslims (like Averroes).
7. It is worth asking how much impact the letter of the 138 has had. Among experts, there has been increasing agreement: the 138 signatories have grown to 216. But in the population, nothing has happened. I have seen just a few articles in Arabic, in the Arab and Islamic newspapers. None of these analysed the content of the letter of the 138. Some of them gave nothing but the news itself, others recounted only that Christians and Muslims wanted to meet to discuss faith in the one God. It therefore cannot be said that this letter has moved the Islamic world.
SAHIR KHALIL SAMIR, an Egyptian Jesuit, is professor of Islamic studies and of the history of Arab culture at the
Universite Saint-Joseph in Beirut and at the Pontifical Oriental Institute in Rome; he is the founder of the
Centre de Recherche Arabes Chretiennes and president of the International Association for Christian Arabic Studies. #
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 20-25 JANUARY / FEBRUARY 2008
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http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#from_jihad_to_slavery
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#a_key_question
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#the_end_justifying
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#islam_booty_and
[RECAPITULATION: In his turn, last November 19 Benedict XVI [Ratzinger] responded to the letter of the 138, …
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: But, why is it "In his turn"? Isn't this presuming that the current Pope has the first turn? Aren't the ancient Churches of the East, mainly the Orthodox with its Universal Patriarch based in Constantinople (Istanbul), the Coptic Church, the Ethiopian, the Indian and other apostle-founded Churches, just as worthy to reply first? Don't the Reformed and Anglican Churches, and the later religions such as the Swedenborgians, the Mormons, the Methodists and the Salvation Army, deserve to take an early or even the prime place in the dialogue?
Of course, one wonders if dialogue is possible, given the
anti-Christian and anti-Judaic rants in the Muslim sacred and revered texts. No Muslim leader or scholar can really respect anyone who treats a man, Jesus, as a god; and frequently their texts say that Allah cannot have a son, since He has no spouse. The Muslim god, Allah, in spite of the Koran using names from the Jewish Scriptures, reversing the heir of the promise, and retailing variant stories of a non-divine non-redeeming non-crucified Jesus, has great similarities to the Judaists' taskmaster El Shaddai and Yahweh (Jehovah), but does not seem to have the same loving personality as "the Father" whom Jesus used to pray to.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION: It seems to me, in fact, that the Muslim personalities who are in contact with the pope want to dodge fundamental and concrete questions, like human rights, reciprocity, violence, etc, to ensconce themselves in an improbable theological dialogue "on the soul and God".
ENDS.]
[3rd RECAPITULATION: In reality, on questions of the right to life, Christians and Muslims come together.
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: The "right to life" is not honoured in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, and Pakistan, judging by the number of executions, both publicly-sanctioned and privately organised. The mass-murders by bombings, whether suicide or by remote control, are accepted by most Mohammedan commentators as a legitimate way of conflict with opponents. The 2nd Recapitulation is, indeed, telling the truth. ENDS.]
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ENDS.]
[Jan-Feb 2008]
General blasts 'twisted' al-Qaida.
[Americans say Al-Qaida sent mentally-handicapped women to be blown up.]
General blasts ‘twisted’ al-Qaida
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 24, Monday, February 4, 2008
BAGHDAD - A US general in Iraq slammed al-Qaida yesterday over what he called its "twisted ideology" for strapping explosives to two Down syndrome women and sending them to blow up popular pet markets, killing 100 people and injuring 208.
Maj-Gen. Jeffery Hammond, commander of US forces in Baghdad, said al-Qaida in Iraq was using "its twisted ideology to spread fear in the hearts of people".
Maj-Gen. Hammond said both bombers were women and closely resembled each other. "There are indications they were mentally handicapped," he said.
Other officers said photographs of the women published by al-Qaida clearly showed the facial features of those afflicted with Down syndrome.
"They were used by al-Qaida because they were less likely to know what was happening," Maj-Gen. Hammond said. "They were less likely to be searched."
A top Iraqi official said the two 15kg lots of explosives had been triggered by remote control in blasts 20 minutes apart.
Gen. Abud Qanbar Hashim, Iraqi commander of Baghdad Operations Command, accused al-Qaida of using "mentally handicapped children and adults to do their dirty work".
"Al-Qaida is desperate," he said. "This is why they attack innocent people like this."
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's office said recent security successes had "annoyed those with sick and corrupt minds, so they committed … two ugly terrorist crimes which left many innocents dead."crease the Iraqi military's persistence in restoring security to the violence-ravaged country, it said. #
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[KORAN:
6:32:-
Nothing is the life of this world, but play and amusement. But best is the Home in the Hereafter …
8:67 (or 8:68):- … Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
22:19 (or 22:20):- … But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >
47:36 (or 47:38):-
The life of this world is but play and amusement.
93:4:-
And verily the Hereafter will be better for thee than the present.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[COMMENT: So, a genuine Islamist could argue, why not give the two mentally-disabled women a quick trip to Paradise, simultaneously cutting out garments of fire for 208 people (100 dead), possibly "hypocrites," in the pet market? Why not argue this way? After all, some leading people of Iran, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia called for the death of a blasphemous author (Salman Rushdie) and Danish cartoonists and others, and some called for the execution of the Pope (for pointing out Islamic violence) and later the Queen and others (for knighting Salman Rushdie), and later someone organised a bomb plot to blow up the Royals in Uganda during November (reported January 15-21, 2008). It's all in accord with the Book!
Gen. Abud Qanbar Hashim said that Al-Qaida "is desperate," but we have all heard that sort of triumphalism before. While ever the Book is respected, twisted minds will be able to send suicide assassins in to attack people of all sorts, just as the mediaeval Assassin Sect used to do. The real losers are the general Iraqi population, who stand to lose their oil revenues AND any hope of rational life as Big Business fights fanatic Islamism.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[MORE KORAN:
In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful
2:193 (or 2:189):- … Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: The Book's definition of Compassionate and Merciful isn't quite what other peoples think. How can it be, while the following is being learnt off by heart in mosques and schools around the world?
8:12:- … I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura8.html #12 >
[Feb 4, 08]
Stabbed wife 'expected to die'
Stabbed wife ‘expected to die’
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
by DAVID DARRAGH, p 17, Thursday, February 7, 2008
PERTH –
A woman told a Supreme Court jury yesterday that she gave up and thought she was going to die as her former husband stabbed her "like a maniac" in the face, head, chest and arms.
Tanya Ammoun was giving evidence on the opening day of the trial of Ali Ammoun, who is accused of bashing his former mother-in-law in her home before luring his former wife to the house and stabbing her in a frenzied attack last year.
Mr Ammoun, 48, has pleaded not guilty to two counts of deprivation of liberty and one count each of attempted murder, doing grievous bodily harm, making threats to kill and aggravated burglary.
"Blood was just squirting and gushing in all directions," Mrs Ammoun told the court.
She said her former husband also tried to smother and strangle her during the attack. She could not believe it when the attack stopped and she staggered into the street to get help.
Opening the trial, prosecutor Dave Dempster said Mr Ammoun believed he was being denied access to his seven children after the couple's divorce in September 2006. Mr Dempster said Mr Ammoun had a knife and a hammer when he broke into the Spearwood home of his former mother-in-law, Pamela Kepicj 61, and attacked her on January 21 last year.
He grabbed her and hit her head on the floor repeatedly, calling her a "f–ing bitch". He also put a hessian bag over her head and bound her arms and legs with tape and rope, he said.
Mr Dempster said Mr Ammoun punched Mrs Kepic in the face repeatedly. He made her phone his former wife to get her to come to the
house. When she arrived, Mr Ammoun grabbed her, held a knife to her throat, threatened to kill her and also bound her hands and feet, Mr Dempster said.
He said that Mrs Ammoun managed to free her feet and tried to escape but Mr Ammoun confronted her and stabbed her repeatedly in the face with a knife.
He also grabbed his former wife by her hair, ripping out big clumps, and threw her down a flight of stairs.
He said the accused continued the attack at the foot of the stairs, only stopping when Mrs Ammoun "played possum" by lying still. Mr Dempster said that during a 000 emergency call, Mr Ammoun said: "I want to report a murder– I tried to kill my wife and my mother-in-law". He told the operator his former wife had taken his children and he had stabbed her.
Mrs Kepic suffered bleeding on her brain and fractures to an eye socket and cheekbone while Mrs Ammoun had multiple cuts to her face and body.
Defence lawyer Colin Lovitt told the court his client would argue that he tied up the two women because they had attacked him with the hammer and knife. The trial continues. #
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[RECAPITULATION: He told the operator his former wife had taken his children …
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Question: Whose children are they? What do the desert-dwellers answer to that? Try reading Not without my daughter by a U.S. woman who married an Iranian, and had to pay thousands to escape. She had ONE child. Do birthrates have a part to play in world affairs?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN: 4:34 (or 4:38):- Men are superior to women … Virtuous women are obedient …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH: 1, 6:301:
[ … ] The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
< www.usc.edu/dept/ MSA/fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/006.sbt. html#001.006.301 >
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[Feb 7, 08]
[Bali killers now appealing against becoming 'martyrs']
IN SHORT
[Bali killers now appealing against becoming
‘martyrs’]
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor, p 22, Thursday, February 7, 2008
So, the three Bali bombers have won the right to have their case reviewed, once again delaying their pending execution.
So much for them wanting to die martyrs for the Muslim terrorist cause.
Funny how their arrogant desire to die as heroes for killing so many innocent people has changed.
Perhaps they have found that going to heaven and being met by all those virgins may be nothing but a myth.
It now appears that they are obviously not that keen to die by firing squad after all.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#bali_killers_now
[Feb 7, 08]
Family ignored bridal murder.
Family ignored bridal murder
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 30, Thursday, February 7, 2008
LONDON - A British family who turned a blind eye to the murder of a young woman in their house screamed and thumped the dock in Leeds Crown Court as they were found guilty of failing to help her.
They were members of the family of Shazad Khan, 25, who was convicted a year ago of killing his new wife, Sabia Rani, 19, in May 2006.
The court had been told that Ms Rani was attacked a number of times at the family home. After she died she was found to have bruising to 90 per cent of her body and up to 15 broken ribs. Pathologist Christopher Milroy said her injuries were similar to those suffered by someone in a serious road accident.
Khan's mother, Phullan Bibi, 52, two of his sisters, Uzma Khan, 23, and Nazia Naureen, 28, and Naureen's husband, Majid Hussain, 28, lived in the same house. They were found guilty on Tuesday after a three-week trial and nine hours of jury deliberations of allowing the death of a vulnerable adult.
Prosecutor Simon Myerson said the defendants blamed Ms Rani's injuries on evil spirits and curses but each must have known she was in pain and that Khan must have been the cause of the pain.
Ms Rani had been brought up in rural Pakistan and did not speak English. She moved to England only five months before she died and was not allowed out of the house without a member of her husband's family.
As the verdicts were read out the sisters began wailing and hugged each other fiercely before screaming: "Not guilty! Not guilty!" Bibi stood up crying and banged both hands down hard on the dock repeatedly before being restrained by officers.
A date for sentencing is to be set. #
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[COMMENT: The newsitem says it was a "British family." Sorry! It was a Pakistani family awaiting the overthrow of the British, whose leaders are decadent.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[RECAPITULATION: Prosecutor Simon Myerson said the defendants blamed Ms Rani's injuries on evil spirits and curses [ … ] the sisters began wailing and … screaming: "Not guilty! Not guilty!"
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 4:34 (or 4:38):- … chide those for whose refractoriness ye have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them …
6:130:- O race of Djinn and men! came not apostles to you from among yourselves ?
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH::
4, 54:484-486 (and see 483):- I heard the Prophet saying, "Fever is from the heat of the (Hell) Fire; so
cool it with water."
4, 54:537:- The Prophet said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: The above Koran and Hadith quotes are samples to show the kind of "thinking" which the Islamic system holds as true and/or reliable, including the scourging or beating of a wife. The evil spirits mentioned in the newsitem might be "djinn," which featured in pre-Islamic Arab legends and were adopted into Islam.
Curses are a part of regular Islam, judging by Hadith 2, 23:414.
ENDS.]
[3rd COMMENT: And why wail, cry out "Not guilty!" and bang hands down on the dock repeatedly? Well, court decorum in a British (i.e., infidel) court is not necessary if one takes the advice of Koran 33:1 and 33:48 (or 33:47).
ENDS.]
[Feb 7, 08]
Ex-wife denies twisting evidence on hammer attack.
Ex-wife denies twisting evidence on hammer attack
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
By DAVID DARRAGH, p 16, Friday, February 8, 2008
PERTH, W. Australia -
A 37-year-old woman has denied twisting her evidence about her former husband stabbing her repeatedly with a knife and hitting her with a hammer in a frenzied attack last year. Tanya Ammoun broke down in tears while testifying to a Supreme Court jury about her acrimonious relationship with former husband Ali Ammoun in the lead-up to the incident in which he allegedly tied up and attacked Mrs Ammoun and her 61-year-old mother Pamela Kepic at Mrs Kepic's home in Steinbeck Place, Spearwood.
Mrs Ammoun had earlier testified that she thought she was going to die when her former husband stabbed her "like a maniac" in the face, head, arms and chest and struck her in the chest with a hammer.
Mr Ammoun, 48, is accused of two counts of deprivation of liberty and one count of attempted murder, doing grievous bodily harm, making threats to kill and aggravated burglary. He has pleaded not guilty.
Cross-examined by defence lawyer Colin Lovitt, Mrs Ammoun said yesterday that she had been thrown down a set of stairs and stabbed repeatedly by Mr Ammoun.
She told police that the attack was motivated by revenge.
Mrs Ammoun denied a suggestion by Mr Lovitt that she had "twisted and amplified" what had happened on the night. She rejected a suggestion that she had attacked Mr Ammoun.
She denied repeatedly accusing Mr Ammoun, in front of others, of being unfaithful but admitted she was convinced he had been having an affair with a business associate whom Mr Ammoun subsequently married soon after their divorce in late 2006.
She agreed with a suggestion by Mr Lovitt that she regarded the other woman, Julie, as some sort of demon and an "evil person". She also admitted smearing Mr Ammoun's character by telling Julie that Mr Ammoun was "into little girls" and warning her to be very careful with her 11-year-old daughter.
Mrs Ammoun said she had told police that she believed Julie was involved in the attack at the time because Mr Ammoun said things to her like "We are going to kill you, we are going to kill your mum" during the attack.
Police had since told her that Mr Ammoun had been on his own.
The court has been told that Mrs Kepic had bleeding on her brain and fractures to an eye socket and cheekbone while Mrs Ammoun had multiple cuts.
The trial continues. #
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[Feb 8, 08]
Recognise sharia law, say Muslims. [- and pay for multiple wives and babies. Anglican leader Herft follows Rowan Williams.]
Recognise sharia law, say Muslims.
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
By KIM MACDONALD and BEATRICE THOMAS, p 3, Saturday, February 9, 2008
PERTH -
WA Muslims are pushing for sharia law to be incorporated into Australian legislation, saying separate rules governing social issues such as divorce, the rights of women and the legal recognition of multiple wives are needed for the Islamic community.
The push came as Perth Anglican Archbishop Roger Herft gave in-principle support for calls from the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, to incorporate some aspects of sharia law in Britain's legal system.
Archbishop Herft said legal recognition of sharia law should be carefully assessed as to whether it would better resolve some culturally sensitive disputes, such as divorce.
But he cautioned that he would not condone anything which contradicted criminal law or undermined people's equality or civil liberties.
Hardline sharia law is infamous for oppressing women and sanctioning beatings for minor religious breaches.
The Islamic Council of WA said yesterday that sharia law was already being practised in a "hidden" fashion and should be recognised formally in cases where it did not contravene the Western legal system.
Council religious adviser Abdul Jalil Ahmad said sharia law was used to resolve personal disputes within the Muslim community in relation to culturally sensitive matters such as divorce, marriage, funerals and property disputes.
"In most Western countries you have to respect the law of the land so (it should be implemented but) Rowan Williams only in some aspects – like marriage and family problems and funerals." The Federal Government yesterday ruled out the introduction of Islamic courts in Australia.
The council is also asking the Government to consider giving extra welfare benefits for Muslim men who have multiple wives.
Council spokesman Rahim Ghauri said if the men married their wives under Islamic law before coming to Australia, they should qualify for extra age pensions and family tax benefits. In Australia, legal recognition of multiple marriages could affect the amount a family of multiple wives would receive in family tax benefits.
Family tax benefit A, which relates to families and couples, allows annual payments of up to $4460.30 per child under 13, rising to $5595.45 per child aged 13 to 15. Family tax benefit A is worth significantly more than family tax benefit B, which is paid to single income families with children.
The aged pension could also be affected because couples each receive fortnightly payments of $449.10, meaning legally recognised multiple marriages could see one man benefit from several aged pensions.
Dr Williams, the Anglican Church's world leader, ignited the debate with a speech at the Royal Courts of Justice in which he called for a "plural jurisdiction" that would allow Muslims to choose whether some legal disputes were resolved in secular or sharia courts. #
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[RECAPITULATION: Hardline sharia law is infamous for oppressing women and sanctioning beatings for minor religious breaches.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Will that bit of truth earn a death-sentence fatwa? Or a subway bomb attack? Or a church or temple burning?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[2nd RECAP.: Council spokesman Rahim Ghauri said if the men married their wives under Islamic law before coming to Australia, they should qualify for extra age pensions and family tax benefits.ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: But the pro-immigration lobby always says the immigrants come here to work and go into business to help the "perpetual growth" mythical cult Big Business says it believes in. And, how could there be any need to resolve disputes about Muslim funerals? Scour the Births, Deaths, and Marriages advertising columns in vain. So, we presume either there are none, -- or perhaps they are "hidden."
If these kinds of immigrants want special treatment, a repatriation payment ought to be offered so that they can comfortably find another country where they will be satisfied and practice their religion as devoutly as they like. Name/s of such countries, please, to Submission Study Unit, and to your local politicians, please. Also if you find Muslim countries with government welfare for plural families of multi-marrying men, please inform SSU.
ENDS.]
[Feb 9, 08]
Gran feared being killed by former son-in-law.
Gran feared being killed by former son-in-law
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
By DAVID DARRAGH, p 13, Saturday, February 9, 2008
PERTH –
A 61-year-old woman thought she was going to be killed while being attacked and bashed by her former son-in-law at her Spearwood home, a Supreme Court jury was told yesterday.
Pamela Kepic said she was set upon and grabbed by Ali Ammoun, 48, after returning to her Steinbeck Place home on January 21 last year.
Mrs Kepic said her attacker slammed her head into the tiled floor in her laundry at least 10 times and kept repeating "f.. .ing bitch" and was yelling something like "It's all your fault".
She said she was left "black and blue" with bruises over her body as a result of Mr Ammoun punching her in the head, back and stomach numerous times with his fists.
"I could see it and I could feel it, it was very painful," she said.
Mrs Kepic said she thought she was going to be killed and was lapsing in and out of consciousness.
At one stage, she saw a hammer next to her and picked it up but then fell unconscious again.
She said Mr Ammoun had bound her hands and legs and put a hood over her head and she could hear her daughter screaming at one stage and thought she was being killed.
Mr Ammoun, a businessman, is on trial accused of two counts of deprivation of liberty and one count of attempted murder, doing grievous bodily harm, making threats to kill and aggravated burglary. He has pleaded not guilty.
Mr Ammoun's former wife, Tanya Ammoun, testified this week that he attacked her and threw her down a set of stairs before repeatedly stabbing her to the face and body with a knife and trying to suffocate her.
The defence will argue that the two women attacked Mr Ammoun, who defended himself.
The former couple had divorced several months before the alleged attack and Mr Ammoun had been denied access to his seven children.
Cross-examined by defence lawyer Colin Lovitt, Mrs Kepic denied that she suffered a head injury when she got angry with Mr Ammoun, who had come to her house to talk, and charged at him before slipping and hitting her head on a sink in the laundry.
Mrs Kepic said she started bleeding from a head wound when her attacker smashed her head into the floor.
She denied a suggestion by Mr Lovitt that she had decided to blame her injuries on Mr Ammoun to get him into trouble when he had just come to the house to talk to the two women and get some answers.
"This is really ridiculous – what you are telling me is a fabricated story and I don't like it – I don't like lies being told to me," Mrs Kepic said.
The trial continues. #
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[RECAPITULATION: … Mr Ammoun had been denied access to his seven children.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Remember that point to see if a reason for the authorities refusing access is reported later. Remember also, according to Mohammedan missionaries, Islam is a superior religion and Muslim family life is so wonderful !!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 9, 08]
[Somalian stabs NZ pilots;
NATO wants more troops to remove Afghan terrorists;
Iraqi Sunnis ease off on attacks on fellow Muslims;
France will try to clean up and police Muslim suburbs;
Abu Hamza extradition order signed in London.]
[Somalian stabs NZ pilots;
NATO wants more troops to remove Afghan terrorists;
Iraqi Sunnis ease off on attacks on fellow Muslims;
France will try to clean up and police Muslim suburbs;
Abu Hamza extradition order signed in London.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Saturday, February 9, 2008
Page 30. "Pilots stabbed in hijack bid."

CHRISTCHURCH, New Zealand: A Somali-born woman demanded to be taken to Australia, stabbing two pilots and trying to hijack a small airliner in NZ, claiming there were bombs on the plane. She is a 33-year-old, of Blenheim. The plane landed safely and no bomb was found.
Page 30. "Afghanistan front line against terror."

LONDON, England:
NATO secretary-general Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said that Afghanistan was the front line of the global struggle against terrorism and defeat for Western forces would risk the security of European cities. Most NATO countries had sent only small numbers of troops to southern Afghanistan.
Page 39. "Revolt forces al-Qaida to ease tactics."

BAGHDAD, Iraq: The Sunni insurgent group al-Qaida in Iraq is telling its followers to soften their tactics in order to retain popular support in the western province of Anbar, where Sunni tribes have turned against the terrorists and begun working with US forces. The new approach was posted in certain mosques, signed by Abu-Hamza al-Muhajer. But there is no easing of the hostility to the Shi'ites, who Al-Qaida say are heretics. Two bombings last Friday [the Muslim "holy" day] in predominantly Shi'ite areas of Baghdad killed as many as 100 people.
Page 42. "France pledges help for slums."

PARIS, France: French president Nicolas Sarkozy has pledged more police and major investments for neglected housing projects nationwide in a plan for neighbourhoods that exploded in riots in 2005 and late last year. Many of the suburbs' youths are of immigrant origin.
Page 44. "Britain clears way for cleric's US extradition."

LONDON, England: Britain intends to extradite jailed Islamist cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri to face terror charges in the US. The US claims that Egyptian-born Hamza, 49, the one-eyed hook-handed former imam of Finsbury Park Mosque, north London, was part of a global holy war / jihad, and want to try him over the 1998 abduction of 16 Western tourists in Yemen, setting up an Islamist training camp in Oregon, etc. A US warrant was issued in 2004. He has been in prison since February 2006, sentenced to seven years for crimes of race hatred and soliciting to murder. He will appeal again. [This newsitem does not tell which British minister let him into the country, nor how many thousands of pounds the attempts to bring him to justice, and pay for his defence lawyers, have cost the British taxpayer.]
Page 54. "Little faith in Pakistan election."

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: Depite colourful candidates' posters papering road signs and shopfronts, the political atmosphere a little more than a week before Pakistan's parliamentary election is as bleak and foreboding as the grey winter sky over much of the country. Candidates largely have refrained from campaigning ouf of fear of bombings, following the assassination of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto on December 27. Allegations of harassment and of relatives of the military dictatorship's officials running for office have been made. Fear of violent Islamic extremists preceded a US observer mission pulling out. The army rebuffed requests to patrol on election day.
The suicide bombing of an army medical bus on Monday killed 11 people and injured 45 in the garrison city of Rawalpindi. Threats are being made against candidates from conservative Islamic parties, which are growing in influence.
Page 58. "Revolution hero's granson shut out."

TEHRAN, Iran: Ali Eshraghi, grandson of the Ayatollah Rhuolla Khomeini, the late founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, said that his exclusion from being allowed to stand for parliament was an instult to the family. Officials has sent him a message asking him to write a single sentence appealing from the decision. The Guardian Council had asked his neighbours about whether he prayed and fasted or smoked and shaved -- the latter two activities being considered less pious in Iran. Of 7200 prospective candidates, only 5000 remain. Iran has earned more than US$60 billion in the past year by exporting 2.5m barrels of oil a day, making it the second-biggest oil exported in OPEC. Former president Mohammad Khatami, a reformist, said "What happened in vetting the candidates was a catastrophe."
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#somalian_stabs_nz
[COMMENT: The NATO leader is wrong. Every country that lowered its guard now has potential terrorists within its borders, so the front line is in your own area. Past warnings had been swept aside with university-level words like "xenophobia," and street-level words like "fascist" and "nazi." Much money was spent and is being spent to drive wide-awake patriots out of public life.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: BAGHDAD Sunni item: How joyous to be in the Islamic/Muslim faith, where heretics can be attacked, while the Christians have become soft and no longer attack their heretics. In fact, any Muslim can declare other Muslims "hypocrites," and then deal rigorously with them.
ENDS.]
[3rd COMMENT: PARIS item: Hold on, the immigrants, we had been told, would invigorate and refresh society, and their essential hard work would assist in building national prosperity. How come some of their suburbs are depressed instead of being repainted and repaired by the occupants, and many of the young men have not "integrated"? The bad effects had all been forecast by patriots.
ENDS.]
[Feb 9, 08]
Chad ponders pardon for kidnap six
Chad ponders pardon for kidnap six
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 46, Saturday, February 9, 2008
PARIS - Chadian President Idriss Deby says he is "ready to pardon" six French aid workers convicted in December of trying to kidnap 103 children they said were orphans from Darfur.
Mr Deby, speaking on Europe-1 radio on Thursday, said he could only issue a pardon on a demand from France but that "I am ready to pardon" the six sentenced to eight years of hard labour by a Chad court.
The six were returned to France and the sentence was converted last month to eight years in prison by a French court.
The case of the six, members of small French aid group Zoe's Ark, aroused heated reaction at the time in Chad, making any pardon by Mr Deby almost unthinkable. However, over the past week, attention has been elsewhere, with Mr Deby's Government fighting back rebels who entered the capital before being pushed back.
Legally, those convicted in the kidnapping case must each make a pardon request, a French presidential spokesman said.
"Of course, if the convicted Zoe's Ark members send us a pardon request, we will transmit it immediately to Chadian authorities, said
David Martinon, suggesting that it is not for the state to make the request.
Gilbert Collard, a lawyer for several of those convicted, said he had sent a pardon request 10 days ago to Chad but looked for help from President Nicolas Sarkozy to push the requests along. It was up to Mr Sarkozy "to seize both this hand (extended by Mr Deby) and take the steps President Deby expects of him".
Mr Sarkozy, who went to Chad personally to bring home journalists covering Zoe's Ark, has made no gesture to save the convicted workers.
When Mr Deby came under rebel attack, he extended a hand.
This week, Mr Sarkozy said that France, which has more than 1500 troops in the former colony, would help Mr Deby if need be.
The Chadian leader said in the radio interview that French support had been limited to "surveying the frontier at Adre" with overflights by Mirage fighter jets. Adre is a border town with Sudan and Mr Deby claims rebels are crossing into Chad from Sudan.
The changed situation apparently makes an eventual pardon for the six French easier.
The six French were arrested in October by Chadian authorities as they sought to send 103 children on a plane to France.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#chad_ponders_pardon
[BACKGROUND: Previous news was that 150 "pickup trucks" loaded with fighters drove westwards from the Darfur region of Sudan towards the capital city of Chad, The president had gone out to confront them, and then went back to the capital where the "rebels" surrounded the presidential palace. The official story had been that Chad military units bravely confronted the "rebels," who supposedly were Darfur rebels (whether Arab or black African, Islamist or not, is unknown to the Webmaster), and the rebels partly pulled back. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Genuine Darfur rebels, also known as freedom fighters, unless helped by foreign powers, do NOT have 150 spare vehicles, nor the money for the fuel to travel cross-country on a fool's errant into Chad, nor the manpower to spare (because of the risk of more attacks from the Arab Islamist government of Sudan).
Now that France has so kindly offered to help save Mr Deby from supposed rebels, Mr Deby "sees" that Zoe's Ark people trying to kidnap 103 black African children to take to Europe to help mix things up more, is not as serious as his countrymen thought.
But, are the pieces now falling into place in the jigsaw?
Were the "rebels" financed so that the Chad leader under threat of death could have a miraculous conversion (or, rather, perversion), and could see his way clear to pardon the kidnappers? After all, the French government years ago tricked the New Zealand government into letting French secret service murderers return to France to serve their sentences -- and they were given medals for blowing up the Rainbow Warrior! Why not trick the Chad government in a different way?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 9, 08]
Iran stoning under fire
[Death threats to Zohreh and Azar Kabiri, Abdollah Farivar, and others; Baha'i followers imprisoned.]
Iran stoning under fire
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 58, Saturday, February 9, 2008
BRUSSELS - The European Union has expressed dismay at the imminent death by stoning of two sisters accused of adultery in Iran.
The 27 member states issued two statements underscoring Europe's growing impatience with the systematic violation of human rights in Iran. It also criticised the persecution of members of the Baha'i religious minority.
"The EU condemns the increasing recourse to death sentences and executions in the Islamic Republic of Iran," a presidency statement said.
The EU reiterated its long standing opposition to the death penalty "in all circumstances" and urged Iran to abolish capital punishment, "if necessary by initially establishing a moratorium on executions".
European diplomats expressed particular concern over the threat of imminent execution facing Zohreh and Azar Kabiri, two sisters who Amnesty International says are to be stoned to death after being forced to confess to their alleged crime.
Abdollah Farivar, a music teacher, also faces a similar fate for reportedly having an extra-marital affair with one of his students.
The EU says Iran promised to impose a moratorium on stoning during human rights talks in 2003. Yet this kind of punishment remains on its statute books.
Officials also criticised Iran for violating international law by sentencing to death three juvenile offenders, as well as four Iranian customs officials accused of corruption.
It was reprimanded by the EU for allowing its judiciary to impose long prison sentences on scores of Baha’i followers accused of spreading propaganda against the regime. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#iran_stoning_under
[COMMENT: And the Church of England Archbishop of Canterbury, echoed elsewhere in the world, wants to allow some elements of Sharia law to be introduced into modern societies!!! His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, Prince Charles, too, ought to do more reading. COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 9, 08]
SHARIA: Now Archbishop is forced to explain himself to General Synod.
SHARIA: Now Archbishop is forced to explain himself to General Synod
The Daily Mail (England),
www.dailymail. co.uk/pages/ live/articles/ news/news.html? in_article_ id=513351& in_page_ id=1770& ct=5 ,
By DANIEL BOFFEY and POLLY DUNBAR, Last updated at 23:12pm on February 9, 2008
ENGLAND –
The Archbishop of Canterbury was battling to salvage his authority last night after the outcry over his remarks on Islamic law reached the highest levels of the Church of England.
As Dr Rowan Williams tried to claim his comments had been misrepresented, two bishops dealt a blow to the attempted fightback by adding their voices to the criticism.
It leaves the country's most senior churchman facing a crucial test of his support at a meeting of the General Synod, his ruling body, tomorrow.
At least two members of the Synod have called for him to resign, and the storm has forced him to hastily rewrite his Presidential address.
[Picture] Dr Rowan Williams: now battling to salvage his authority. Picture: Associated Press
The row started when Dr Williams gave a lecture and interview on Thursday calling for parts of sharia law – the legal and social code that guides Muslims in their daily life – to be recognised in the UK.
Yesterday he tried to calm the situation by placing on his website a selectively edited account of his words, insisting that he had "made no proposals for sharia, and certainly did not call for its introduction as some kind of parallel jurisdiction".
But a transcript of his BBC radio interview on Thursday shows him stating that the application of sharia in the UK was "unavoidable – it's not as if we are bringing in an alien and rival system".
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The Bishop of Oxford, the Right Rev John Pritchard, became the most senior figure to criticise the Archbishop's remarks.
"We should be extremely cautious about welcoming sharia law into Britain," he said.
"British law has been built upon Judaeo-Christian foundations over many centuries and established through Parliament and our courts and I don't think that should be undermined. British law ought to apply to everyone in Britain, Muslim or not."
He was echoed by the Bishop of Rochester, the Right Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, who said Dr Williams's proposals would be "impossible" to implement and would disturb "the integrity of the legal tradition that is rooted in the quite different moral and spiritual vision deriving from the Bible".
Alison Ruoff, a member of the General Synod, added to the pressure when she said he was no longer "the right man for the job". She said of his speech: "At best it was politically inept and at worst it was sheer foolishness. Christians, particularly in Islamic countries who are being severely persecuted, are really incredibly upset."
Politicians stepped tentatively into the furore. Labour MP Chris Bryant, who was taught at theological college by Dr Williams, said the Archbishop had been ill-advised.
He said: "I can see how he can have come to have had an academic discussion but being the Archbishop of Canterbury you are not just an academic. I like British law, if I am honest. Our respect for the individual and the ideas of rights and responsibilities – they are fine ideas."
In his rewritten address to the crunch Synod meeting, Dr Williams is expected to express regret over the row – although he has told friends that he remains surprised by the scale of the controversy.
The General Synod can remove a bishop if a 12-strong disciplinary committee agree on the sanction. According to rules drawn up in 1996, it is constrained from disciplining members over "doctrinal" differences.
There are only four grounds for making a complaint: breaching ecclesiastical law, failing to do something required by ecclesiastical law, neglecting to perform the duties of office and conduct inappropriate to the clergy.
But last night a spokesman for Lambeth Palace said: "The Archbishop has done nothing to contravene any of these."
The spokesman claimed to be unaware of the methods by which an archbishop could be sacked. The last Archbishop of Canterbury to resign was Simon Langham in 1368, due to a disagreement with King Edward III.
Two bishops made moves to calm the situation. The Bishop of Liverpool, the Right Rev James Jones, called for both sides to debate the issues sensibly in order to avoid further splits.
"Writing in an academic context, the Archbishop did raise serious issues that need careful consideration because of their sensitivity and preponderance to disrupt rather than enhance social cohesion," he said.
Meanwhile, the Bishop of Southwell, the Right Rev George Cassidy, rounded on Dr Williams's critics.
"I am saddened and dismayed that when the Archbishop of Canterbury was invited to open and resource a public debate, the aim of which was to build a more vibrant and cohesive society, he is then subjected to hysterical knee-jerk reaction," he said.
"The Archbishop can count on the support of all serious-minded people who are prepared to tackle the challenges of our complex society."
Police are now believed to have taken steps to protect the Archbishop of Canterbury following concern that he could be the target of attack – although he is said to have turned down the offer of round-the-clock personal protection.
It is understood Mike Fuller, the Chief Constable of Kent, expressed concern as soon as he learnt of the furore over the comments.
A Kent Police spokeswoman would not discuss the details. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#sharia_now_archbishop
[COMMENT: The modern Church of England show some backbone? I'd like to see that! Read forward to July 2008, when the C of E was approving women bishops, having already allowed the United States branch consecrate a practising homosexual male bishop! Dr Williams ought to read the Sharia law treatment for "gays" -- aren't they flung off a cliff? More reading, Your Grace! END.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Religion News Blog, and others.
ENDS.]
[Feb 9, 08]
The way we were.
[from 3206 to 340,000]
THE WAY WE WERE
The West Australian,
An inset table in the article "WA's taxing times nothing new; New documents give a snapshot of Australia between 1908 and 2008. Shane Wright compares life then and now;"
by Shane Wright, p 62, Saturday, February 9, 2008
PERTH -
Native Australians (known) 1908 41,389; 2008 517,200.
Anglican 1908 1.5 million; 2008 3.7 million
Roman Catholic 850,600; 5.1 million.
Islam 3,206; 340,000
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#the_way_we
[Feb 9, 08]
Top judges in key ruling on sharia marriage. [Compliant UK might, just might, actually put aside sharia in favour of the rights of a learning-disability man and of the duped woman.]
Top judges in key ruling on sharia marriage
The Observer (London),
http://www. guardian.co. uk/world/ 2008/feb/10/ religion.law2 ,
by Mark Townsend, Sunday, February 10, 2008
LONDON –
Three senior judges are to rule on the legality of an arranged marriage conducted in the UK under sharia law, a judgment that could have profound consequences for British Muslims.
Last week, as Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, declared it was 'inevitable' that certain parts of Islamic law would be introduced into Britain, the Court of Appeal was told how a 26-year-old British Muslim with learning difficulties was married over the telephone to a woman in Bangladesh. It was arranged by the man's father and deemed lawful under sharia law.
Lord Justice Thorpe, Lord Justice Wall and Lady Justice Hallett were asked by the man's family to reject an earlier decision that, because the groom was unable to give his consent, the marriage was unlawful. Mr Justice Wood said that the true test into the validity of the marriage was 'whether the marriage is so offensive to the conscience of the English court that it should refuse to recognise and give effect to the proper foreign law'.
The judge added that the long-standing British policy to recognise sharia marriages conducted abroad should be offset by the understanding that 'there are occasions when such a marriage cannot be recognised in England, for example where to do so would be repugnant to public policy'.
The case was brought by Westminster city council community services department after the local authority raised concerns about a marriage in which the groom could not possibly have given consent because of his learning disabilities.
The marriage took place in September 2006. Although the bridegroom stayed in London and listened to the ceremony by speakerphone, the ceremony took place in Bangladesh and was declared valid under sharia law.
Yogi Amin of the law firm Irwin Mitchell, who represents the rights of the young disabled man through the Official Solicitor, said: 'This case highlights that the law in this country may clash with sharia law and the cultural wishes of the family.' He added: The High Court held that the marriage in this case … is not valid under English law, and that any marriage entered into by this vulnerable adult whether inside or outside England will not be recognised under English law.'
Legal experts said the case would have ramifications for plans to make forced marriages - often arranged marriages involving youngsters - prohibited in the UK under case law.
Yesterday the archbishop hit back amid calls for his resignation. A statement on his website said he made no proposals for sharia and 'did not call for its introduction as some kind of parallel jurisdiction to the civil law'. Sources close to the archbishop said he had been surprised at what he believes is the 'irrational reaction to his speech.
Already two members of the General Synod, the church's parliament, have called for Williams to resign amid criticism from leading bishops, secular groups and government figures.
Today, writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Lord George Carey, Williams's predecessor, has accused him of 'overstating the case for accommodating Islamic legal codes', adding that 'acceptance of some Muslim laws would be disastrous for the nation'.
But Lord Carey also defended the archbishop as a great Anglican leader, saying 'this is not a matter upon which Dr Williams should resign'.
This article was amended on Tuesday February 12, 2008 to clarify Yogi Amin's relation to the case. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#top_judges_in
[RECAPITULATION: … the long-standing British policy to recognise sharia marriages conducted abroad [ … ]
Legal experts said the case would have ramifications for plans to make forced marriages - often arranged marriages involving youngsters - prohibited in the UK under case law.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: So, once-great Britain hasn't had the sense to pass statutes banning sharia marriages, forced marriages and arranged marriages, and to set proper ages. Is it stupidity, political correctness, fear of more cowardly bombings, or sheer laziness by the politicians and others in authority?
But, to the other main point of the newsitem. A slow learner, legally unable to give consent, listening on a telephone as he is "married" to someone a quarter of a world away !!! Was it the family's intention to "raise up children from these stones"! And to despoil the infidels! Through the infidels' "PC" welfare system.
The woman's rights need protecting from Islamists like that, as well as the non-competent man. Lack of consent, in Islamic doctrine, does not make a marriage null and void, as shown by the hypothetical case put to Mohammed in Bukhari's Hadith 9, 86:98.
In fact, the menfolk arrange marriages, and handle the signing ceremony. The woman or women are often not present at the signing. In this case, the unfortunate male was theoretically present by his telephone listening, but like the woman in the case, the older men made the decisions. Yet Britain has been recognising this deficient "law" for some time! And paying for clutches of children from polygamy, but only recently formalising such waste of the taxpayers' money.
To get more idea of how wrong sharia law is, Islamic "scholars" are having debates as to whether husbands can divorce any one of his wives by sending a text message on a mobile cellphone, "I divorce thee" three times. Talk about mediaeval Western Christian scholars supposedly debating how many angels could dance on the head of a pin!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[INTERNET ADDRESS: The Observer's articles regularly appear on The Guardian website.
ENDS.]
[Feb 10, 08]
Archbishop is wrong to claim that sharia law 'is inevitable.'
Archbishop is wrong to claim that sharia law
‘is inevitable’
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
Opinion (Editorial), p 20, Tuesday, February 12, 2008
Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury and head of the Anglican Church, says his suggestion that British courts recognise different kinds of justice, including Muslim sharia law, would lead to a more cohesive society.
He could not be more wrong. Rather than encouraging inclusion, allowing Muslims to choose to use sharia law would lead to further community disharmony and social fragmentation.
In an address last week to the Royal Courts of Justice, Dr Williams called for "plural jurisdiction" which would allow Muslims to elect to have some legal disputes resolved in secular, or sharia, courts. Unsurprisingly, his comments have sparked an unholy battle within the Anglican Church, with some of his colleagues calling for his resignation.
Part of the criticism is directed at his willingness to accommodate a legal system which many people, and not just Christians, find repugnant. In some countries, sharia law is brutal and oppressive, particularly towards women. There is no common agreement, either, on what constitutes sharia law.
Dr Williams called for "constructive accommodation" of Muslim practice in areas such as marital disputes and said he believed it "inevitable" that sharia law be incorporated in British law.
Dr Williams has put in danger the judicial system which offers the best protection to minority religions. Legal equality is the basis of social order; he should be shoring it up, not indulging in what his critics have called legal apartheid.
While Australians biggest Anglican diocese; Sydney, rejected Dr Williams' call, Perth's Anglican Archbishop, Roger Herft, said he agreed with the suggestion "in principle". He should think again because Dr Williams' suggestion ignores the fundamental principle that all citizens, regardless of religion, must obey the laws of the land in which they chose to live. Like British law, Australian law is secular and applies equally, regardless of religion.
The Islamic Council of WA believes that sharia law should be incorporated into Australian legislation, but only where it does not contravene existing Australian laws. The council says that sharia law already is practised in some culturally sensitive matters. Dr Williams says he is not suggesting a parallel system of justice but in effect that is just what he is doing. By allowing citizens to elect the law which suits them best, he is putting justice out to tender. That is a dangerous prospect.
The Anglican community should be concerned that Dr Williams has created yet another furore in a church already threatened with fracture over the ordination of homosexuals. It is a serious lack of judgment from which he has not been able to distance himself. Even his predecessor, Lord Carey, said the introduction of elements of sharia law would be disastrous for Britain. The same applies to Australia. Lord Carey added that many Muslims opposed sharia, and to allow some elements of it to be adopted would encourage extremists to step up their demands for more.
Dr Williams has done a disservice to Muslims who have accepted the values of their adopted countries and who have embraced their legal and social responsibilities. No matter how well intentioned he might have been, his comments have the potential to inflame racial tensions. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#archbishop_is_wrong
[RECAPITULATION: … In some countries, sharia law is brutal and oppressive, particularly towards women. …
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Sharia law comes from a culture that to an outsider looks as if, on the one hand, it wants to legalise lust
(plural and temporary marriage at the whim of prosperous men, and a Paradise with houris, ever virgins), but on the other hand has a revulsion to women with teachings about being unclean, and in one text "polluted;" and in a Hadith says they only have half the intelligence of men, and half the piety (Hadith 1, 6:301). This divergence in thinking leads to bipolar thinking, and often leads to domestic bullying and violence, which was made a "heavenly order" in the Koran 4:34 (or 4:38). A number of males, once given "divine" authority to scourge women, take it to the final step of murdering women, often under the guise of protecting "honour."
The inheritance rights of females are greatly reduced in the Koran 4:11 (or part of 4:12) and 4:12 continued (or 4:14). A widow is only entitled to a year's bed and board before being removed (Koran 2:240 or 2:241). This cruel provision, if read with the inheritance laws, presumably means that male relatives will split up much of the value of the dead man's house. What pressure there would be on the widow to join the harem of some greedy male! Or even find herself "married" without her knowledge or consent, as per the Hadith 9, 86:98.
Amazingly, female apologists appear on Western television and speak on radio, denying what are plainly "heavenly orders," and pretending that Muslim women have fair rights, and claiming that the Koran had improved the lot of women. If that is true, let us hope that the mediaeval Arabian Judaists and Christians (later obliterated by the Muslims) did not subscribe to what would have been a super-cruel culture among some of the rest of the Arabians!
The founders of the sharia law might not have had even a very sketchy idea of the move forward in women's rights that had been attempted, with a hiccough or two, around 30 A.D. In fact, they seemed to have no idea of the thousands of years of humanity's written records, showing slow progress towards humane belief systems, and so Muslims refer to all previous times as the Time of Ignorance.
Sadly, they were corrupted by the traditions of earlier religions, and adopted stoning to death from it, with additional unjust legal thinking. Hence modern Islamic courts order the stoning to death of rape victims … the evidence proves they had sex with a man, they are not married to the man, hence they are adultresses or fornicators, so are worthy of death !!! Such distorted thinking, dressed up as "jurisprudence," has led some thinkers to label Islam as demonic.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN: 4:34 (or 4:38) < www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/004. qmt.html# 004.043 >.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH: 1, 6:301 < www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/006. sbt.html# 001.006.301 >; and
9, 86:98 < www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/086. sbt.html# 009.086.098 >.
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[Feb 12, 08]
Beware the stealthy spread of Islam.
Beware the stealthy spread of Islam
The West Australian,
Various Letters to The Editor, p 22, Tuesday, February 12, 2008
Beware the stealthy spread of Islam
I read with disbelief and anger the report that the Islamic Council of WA is suggesting that sharia law be incorporated into Australian legislation and that Perth's Archbishop Herft and Britain's Archbishop Rowan Williams should even think of such action (Recognise sharia law, say Muslims, 9/2).
My first thoughts were how could the hierarchy of a Christian church contemplate the thought of anything Islamic encroaching on the foundation of this magnificent country.
They should know, above anyone else, that Islam's conclusion is that Christianity be
wiped off the face of this Earth. [Words missing] rope Islam is creating and how by stealth it is infiltrating not only the communities but also the local and federal governments. Their endeavours are to take over every Western country, including Australia.
If we let our politicians capitulate to the requests of Islam our children will experience the same tragedies that have befallen other countries.
In good faith we compassionate and generous Australians allow these people into our country on their excuse that they are escaping their home country.
They want to come to Australia to enjoy our peaceful and prosperous way of life and once here want to enforce their Islamic laws on our society, and because our generosity allows them to dictate what they want and because some of our people in positions of authority submit to their requests at the expense of the Australian public, we must submit to their requests.
I could not believe that the Islamic Council of WA spokesman Rahim Ghauri has the audacity to ask that Australia legally recognise Islamic men who have multiple wives while living in their home countries be given age pensions per wife once they arrive in Australia. If bigamy is legal in their home country then let them claim this pension from there. Our laws do not condone bigamy, so how does he expect our laws to recognise an Islamic law?
Islam will stealthily spread its way through our community until it's too late to curtail Islamic growth.
Fifth column
Your report on sharia law is evidence of a growing fifth column in Australia. While we are a western European, largely Anglo/Celtic culture, we have within our borders a growing religious group which perpetuates ancient values and Islamics now comprise 1.6 per cent of Australia's population and form a voting block [? bloc] that will vote as one man in the appropriate circumstances. What politicians seeking to retain or gain power can resist this alien influence on the greater community?
Incredibly, Dr Rowan Williams, Anglican Church world leader, has called for "plural jurisdiction" and this seems to have some support from Perth Anglican Archbishop Roger Herft. We don't want "plural jurisdiction" in this country for all the nightmare realities which will inevitably arise.
The recent Malaysian case of an elderly man being "declared a Muslim" by religious authorities and buried as such against the strident disbelief of his family is but one case in point. The international litany of violent retribution by Islamic zealots and religious police would fill a library. Couldn't happen here? Let's get real.
The paradox is that Lord Carey, the former archbishop of Canterbury, described the Islamic culture as authoritarian, inflexible and under-achieving. Doesn't sound like a value system that belongs in Australia and yet we continue to allow their immigration and support their education system.
Our existing rule of secular law is one we must retain. This is a strategic issue for our country and a pragmatic approach is necessary.
Let's watch our numbers-focused parliamentary representatives on this one. Let's see if they turn out to be leaders or just politicians at the end of the day.
Arrogance
Having long respected the fine intellect of Dr Rowan Williams, Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury, I was flabbergasted at his suggestion that some aspects of sharia law be incorporated into Britain's legal system and even more flabbergasted to read that Perth's Anglican Archbishop Roger Herft had given "in principle support".
But why stop there? Why don't we incorporate, for example, aspects of Roman Catholic Canon Law on annulment of marriage or Mormon teaching on marriage? When migrants (and I have been married to one for 20 years) choose to come to our country, one would think it was because Australia offered a better life than the country of origin.
It seems arrogance to me, then, that we get the Islamic Council of WA seeking concessions such as sharia law being recognised in
multiple wives. We live in a democratic society built on the separation of powers and the separation of Church and state. This safeguards the freedom of resident communities and of the individual. Let's keep it that way.
We're all equal
It appears from the report by Kim MacDonald and Beatrice Thomas that the administrators of the Anglican Church should be having a good look at their leadership and direction if the Perth Archbishop and the Archbishop of Canterbury are giving support to the introduction of aspects of sharia law into our legal system.
In our legal system all people are seen to be equal according to law. The introduction of sharia law, and possibly other laws, would immediately place some people at variance with this principle.
We all know what the ideal should be - that we should all get on in harmony with one another. Sadly, in the real world things don't work out that way, as shown in Afghanistan, Britain, Belgium, France, Holland, Iraq and many other countries.
It is reassuring to note that the Federal Government has ruled out the introduction of Islamic courts in Australia. I hope Australia (and other Western countries) will develop a bit of backbone, withdraw from the United Nations protocol and stop admitting to the country people whose ideas are incompatible with ours.
Incidentally, I was christened Anglican.
Alarming call
As a dedicated Australian, returned serviceman and retired police officer, I read with alarm the call for sharia law by the Muslim community, with multiple wives and the demand for extra welfare benefits for the wives.
I am protesting publicly before any of the so-called social engineers masquerading as politicians decide that this is a good idea. If the Muslim community find our laws so offensive and oppressive, why do they not go home where all is rosy?
My prediction is this issue will grow to be bigger than Ben Hur, as in the UK, and we won't be able to stop it once it's allowed.
It begs the question: how were these people permitted to enter this country with multiple wives? Where is our Immigration Department?
SHARIA LAW
I read with concern Kim MacDonald's and Beatrice Thomas' report about the push to introduce sharia law into our courts because it was, in effect, already being practised in a "hidden fashion".
I was even more alarmed to learn that anyone would ask taxpayers to foot the pension bill where a second or perhaps even third spouse/wife was notionally present in a family. I wonder how a religion of whatever description could bring itself to ask for such special dispensation.
Indeed, I worry most that our society's apparent obsession with creating a "multicultural wonderland" will seriously erode Australian values. The idea of a nation made up of different cultural and ethnic backgrounds living separately, yet functioning as a single entity, has been found wanting. It's called the former Yugoslavia.
Only group to demand own law
As soon as Muslims are in sufficient numbers in a non-Muslim country they start demanding sharia law. They are the only religious group that does this.
Australia's governments and laws are secular and the idea of a separate set of laws for one religious group would be repugnant to most Australians.
The adoption of sharia law would also be setting a dangerous precedent. Those who want to live by sharia law should move to a Muslim country.
Don't exclude women's rights in marriage.
Abdul Jalil Ahmad of the Islamic Council of WA needs to be aware that equal human rights for men and women are not principles that are confined just to the public sphere of life.
Equality under the law is equally important within marriage and the family. Equal rights for women, including equal access to divorce, are not just "social issues" that can be ignored when it suits a particular group. They are the bedrock of a modern and fair society.
Multiple wives and children take-over
In Australia it's called bigamy and is a punishable offence. How can we admit Muslim men into the country who have multiple wives (and thus the potential for multitudes of children) and support them with social security? Within 50 years we will become a Muslim state.
Accept our system, or leave
Sharia law in Australia - never. We have a Christian, Westminster-law system. If you cannot accept this fact, then leave the country.
Regarding multiple wives and pensions for them, no one should be allowed into Australia with multiple wives because it contravenes our own laws.
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[RECAPITULATION: The recent Malaysian case of an elderly man being "declared a Muslim" by religious authorities and buried as such against the strident disbelief of his family is but one case in point. The international litany of violent retribution by Islamic zealots and religious police would fill a library. ENDS.]
[SUGGESTION: Will any of these correspondents form a Repatriation and Family Reunion Party, to change the laws to offer people one-way tickets if they feel the practice of their religion is being restricted here? Or, having let off steam, will they become dormant again?
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The multiple wives and children are already able to access the weak-kneed Australian welfare system. The extra wives would be treated as "Separated, widowed, or divorced" for the purpose of the Social Security Act, and all the children would be eligible. The former Liberal Prime Minister accentuated this, and other problems, by even giving a cash grant of some thousands of dollars per birth -- married or not, by natural sex or artificially. The new PM Mr Rudd will need more than the Mandarin languague to sort the Muslim and welfare mess out! But what will happen if another religion insists on burning the widows on their husband's funeral pyre? And yet another that every adherent who is a man must carry a knife and wear soldier's shorts? And will the taxpayer be asked to contribute towards the wood or other fuel for widow-burning -- from plantation forests, not old-growth native forests, of course.
ENDS.]
[Feb 12, 08]
'UK must have Muslim laws'.
‘UK MUST HAVE MUSLIM LAWS’
Fury at call for sharia courts by Archbishop of Canterbury
The International Express (Britain), West Australian edition,
pp 1 and 4, February 12-18, 2008
THE Archbishop of Canterbury was accused last week of surrendering to Muslim extremists when he called for Islamic sharia law to rule in parts of Britain.
Dr Rowan Williams claimed incorporating aspects of the Muslim legal system into UK law was now "unavoidable" and "appropriate" and said believers should not have to choose between "the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty".
The Church'of England's most senior cleric also backed demands for Islamic courts to settle divorces and other disputes between Muslims living in Britain.
But his remarks sparked a storm of protest. Sharia law has been used to justify stoning, beheadings and other brutal punishments in many Muslim countries. In extreme cases, Islamic courts have even put people to death for
converting to Christianity.
Treyor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said the Archbishop's thinking was muddled and unhelpful and the implication that British courts should treat people differently based on their faith was divisive and dangerous.
"It risks removing the protection afforded by law, for example, to children in custody cases or women in divorce proceedings. There is a fundamental principle here - when you appear before a court in Britain you appear as a citizen, equal to any other and should be treated equally."
He added: "Follow the logic of this extreme multiculturalism through and where do we end up?
"With a group of white Christians in Barking and Dagenham deciding they had a conscientious objection to non-white Muslims in their neighbourhood and seeking the support of the courts? I don't doubt the Archbishop's desire to accommodate
diversity, but we cannot do so at the expense of our common values."
How can Archbishop say sharia law is unavoidable?
Gordon Brown declined to condemn the Archbishop's remarks, and Downing Street even suggested some laws could be changed to reflect Muslim sensitivities.
The Prime Minister believed that "British laws should be based on British values", his spokesman said, going on to add: "There are instances where the government has made changes, for example on stamp duty, but the general position is that sharia cannot be used as justification for committing breaches of English law nor can its principles be used in civil courts."
In a strikingly conciliatory tone, the spokesman said Mr Brown had a "good relationship" with the Archbishop. Downing Street was virtually alone in refusing to join the outcry, however.
[Picture] BLOODY JUSTICE: A beheading in Saudi and, right, Dr Rowan Williams
137 beheadings in a year
MANY Islamic countries have an appalling record on human rights where punishments under sharia law include beheading for murder, amputation for theft and stoning to death for adultery.
Two days ago, Saudi authorities beheaded a citizen convicted of murder, bringing the number of people executed by that means this year to 24. The Saudis beheaded 137 people last year, up sharply from the 38 in 2006. According to Amnesty International, Iran has one of the highest rates of execution in the world. In 2006,177 people were put to death, mostly by hanging.
That number was expected to be exceeded in 2007, with 124 people executed in the first seyen months. Although Iran imposed a moratorium on death by stoning in 2002, two people suffered that fate in 2006 and one last year. Nine women and two men are currently under sentence of death by stoning. More women suffer this punishment because evidence from a man carries twice as much weight as a woman's.
Last week, an Iranian court sentenced a man to death for drinking alcohol.
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Baroness Sayeeda Warsi, Shadow Minister for Community Cohesion, said: "The Archbishop's comments are unhelpful. Freedom under the law allows respect for some religious practices. But let's be absolutely clear. All British citizens must be subject to British laws."
Tory MP Mark Pritchard called the Archbishop's remarks naive and shocking. "He may want to run up the white flag of surrender over Lambeth Palace, but there are many who do not."
Mike Judge, of the Christian Institute, said: "The fact that we all obey the same law, whatever our religion, is an important principle of the British way of life." And Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice said: "This is a Christian country with Christian laws. If Muslims want to live under sharia law then they are free to emigrate to a country where sharia law is already in operation."
Many leading Muslims also rejected the Archbishop's remarks. Labour MP Khalid Mahmood said: "This will alienate people from other communities because they will think this is what Muslims want and it is not."
Dr Williams's remarks came in an interview with BBC Radio 4, ahead of a speech on Thursday night to members of the legal profession. He argued that the legal system needed to be reformed to recognise different religious convictions within Britain's multi-faith society.
"It seems unavoidable and, as a matter of fact, certain conditions of sharia are already recognised in our society
and under our law, so it is not as if we are bringing in an alien and rival system.
"There is a place for finding what would be a constructive accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law as we already do with aspects of other kinds of religious law. It would be quite wrong to say that we could ever license a system of law for some community
which gave people no right of appeal, no way of exercising the rights that are guaranteed to them as citizens in general.
"But there are ways of looking at marital disputes, for example, which provide an alternative to the divorce courts as we understand them. In some cultural and religious settings they would seem more appropriate."
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[RECAPITULATION: In extreme cases, Islamic courts have even put people to death for converting to Christianity.
ENDS.]
[KORAN:
8:12,
16:106 (or 16:108).
66:9:- O Prophet! make war on the infidels and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them.
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura66.html# 9>
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Vol. 2, Bk. 19, No. 173 (Bukhari's collection):- [ … ] Later on, I saw him killed as a non-believer.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/funda mentals/hadith sunnah/bukhari/ 019.sbt.html# 002.019.173 >.
9, 84:57:- … Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION: More women suffer this punishment because evidence from a man carries twice as much weight as a woman's.
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: The double value of a man's evidence is only part of the injustice problem. Guess what a NON-MUSLIM woman's evidence is worth! Or such a man's!
ENDS.]
[DOCTRINE: Abu Usamah: I don't believe them, because they are kuffaar, lying is part of their religion. – "Undercover Mosques: The Transcripts," Channel 4: Dispatches,
< http://mpacuk. org/content/ view/3266/ 34/ >,
(Abu Usamah is a regular speaker at Green Lane Mosque, Birmingham, England),
Monday, January 15, 2007.
ENDS.]
[3rd RECAPITULATION: Last week, an Iranian court sentenced a man to death for drinking alcohol.
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 5:90 (or 5:92)
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html# 90>
ENDS.]
[4th RECAPITULATION: Labour MP Khalid Mahmood said: "This will alienate people from other communities because they will think this is what Muslims want and it is not."
ENDS.]
[REJOINDER: Oops! The Koran tells Muslims not to obey the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and not to heed their annoyances. ("Hypocrites" is the code word for fellow-Muslims with whom a Muslim disagrees on politico-religious duties.)
ENDS.]
[Feb 12-18, 2008]
We must reject Archbishop's craven counsel of despair.
We must reject Archbishop’s craven counsel of despair
The Weekly Telegraph, Issue No. 864 (Britain, Australian edition), weekly@ telegraph. co.uk ,
by Matthew d'Ancone, "Comment," p 22, Wed Feb 13- Tue Feb 19, 2008
FORTY years after Enoch Powell's "rivers of blood" speech, the Archbishop of Canterbury has delivered its liberal mirror image: let us call it "rivers of blather". The lecture that Dr Rowan Williams gave in London last week, and specifically his remarks on sharia law, showed that even the mildest-mannered intellectual can become a bulldog in the social china shop, spraying daft ideas around with a recklessness that disgraced his office.
The jurisprudential kernel of the lecture was as follows: that we should be wary of the "inflexible or over-restrictive applications of traditional law", that "a universalist Enlightenment system has to weigh the possible consequences of ghettoising and effectively disenfranchising a minority, at real cost to overall social cohesion and creativity", and that there is therefore a case for "plural jurisdiction".
In an interview with The World at One on Radio 4 the same day, Dr Williams made his case more accessibly, claiming that the adoption of certain aspects of sharia law "seems unavoidable". As things stand, he said, "there's one law for everybody and that's all there is to be said, and anything else that commands your loyalty or allegiance is completely irrelevant in the processes of the courts - I think that's a bit of a danger."
Hence, the archbishop's enthusiasm "for finding what would be a constructive accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law".
Because Dr Williams has the hushed manner of a consultant oncologist reassuring a nervous patient, it is easy to assume that what he says is benign and full of common sense. Not in this case, however. In the name of liberal co-existence, the archbishop took arms against the very principles that give our ever-more diverse society
what cohesion it has. This was a very dangerous intervention.
At Westminster, there is a debate on the nature of "Britishness". Traditional Tories tend to argue that it is to be found in institutions; Gordon Brown suggests that what makes us British is our values. What all agree on is the binding force of the law.
[Cartoon] of an ice-skating Dr Williams, having almost reached cracks in the ice spelling the word "SHARIA." Harland. After "Skating Clergyman" by Sir Henry Raeburn
Since Dr Williams likes clever people, and fancies himself to be one, let me pray in aid to the cleverest person of the lot. "As long as I have any choice,"
Albert Einstein said, "I will stay only in a country where political liberty, toleration and equality of all citizens before the law are the rule." Equality before the law is, in practice, the most meaningful form of equality we have. The universal franchise is exercised only sporadically. But the presumption of legal equality is our best guarantee that ethnic minorities and religious groups have of fair treatment.
Far from encouraging such groups to insist on special treatment, or juridical devolution, moral leaders such as the archbishop should be doing precisely the opposite: identifying, defending and celebrating the legal common ground on which all citizens can and should gather. It is astonishing that a man of Dr Williams's notional intelligence should end up on the side of legal apartheid and moral cantonisation, even in the euphemistic guise of "plural jurisdiction" or "transformative accommodation".
In a world of unprecedented mobility and confused identity, the certainty of equality before the law is needed more than ever. In his lecture, Dr Williams was a little bit sniffy about the Enlightenment, suggesting that it needed to be updated to fit the needs of modern society. Yes, he said, "equal levels of accountability for all and equal levels of access for all to legal process" are all very well. But "it would be a pity if the immense advances in the recognition of human rights led, because of a misconception about legal universality, to a situation where a person was defined primarily as the possessor of a set of abstract liberties and the law's function was accordingly seen as nothing but the securing of those liberties irrespective of the custom and conscience of those groups which concretely compose a plural modern society."
Personally, I think we could do with a bit less anxiety about "custom and conscience" and a bit more "legal universality". Please, sir: can we have the Enlightenment back?
From time to time, I have the bad manners to write, pour memoire, that we are at war with fundamentalist Islam. This is not a pleasant fact, and certainly not a welcome one: most people in the West would like to believe the problem of militant Islamism will recede once President Bush leaves office in January. If only that were the case.
As you read this, British troops are risking their lives against Islamic fundamentalists in Iraq and Afghanistan. British Muslims such as Saira Khan and Ed Husain (a former militant) speak out bravely against the extremists. Since writing in The Sunday Telegraph that Islamists have created "no-go" areas in Britain, the Bishop of Rochester, Michael Nazir-Ali, has received death threats. Could his boss have chosen a worse geopolitical context in which to call for the official incorporation of sharia rules into the law of the land?
Liberalism collapses when it slides into relativism. Dr Williams pleads for a quiet life: "What we don't want, is, I think, a stand-off, where the law squares up to people's religious consciences." Sorry, Your Grace, but, in some cases, that is exactly what we want. We need British Muslims to feel secure, equal, valued. But we also need them to acknowledge that true liberalism is not a licence for fundamentalists to do what they want, and that citizenship requires the subordination of some ancestral practices to universal legal norms.
Most citizens will have many allegiances (to family, church, football team, and so on). But, where the law is concerned, there can only be one, unambiguous allegiance.
It was Elizabeth I who said that she had no desire "to make windows into men's souls", and this Reformation principle has served our country well in faith and public life. Yet the condition of pluralism is the establishment of non-negotiable common ground and the insistence that all agree to it.
On Thursday's Newsnight, there was a clip recorded in the open-plan offices of the Islamic Sharia Council. The council's
secretary, Dr Suhaib Hasan, spoke reasonably enough. Then he addressed the question of polygamy, which he said was not only consistent with sharia but necessary when women outnumbered men. "If every person is confined to one wife," Dr Hasan said, "the remaining number of the women either have to become nuns, or prostitutes, or remain without marriage at all." Oh dear: is this what the Archbishop means by "plural jurisdiction"?
Yes, yes, I know he is not talking about public decapitation, or the amputation of hands. But what Dr Williams advances is still the jurisprudence of appeasement, moral cowardice dressed up as worthy cerebration. His lecture was a victory for those who believe the liberal West is weak. It will hearten those who suspect that we fear confrontation more than we value our own beliefs, and that, with time, we can be coaxed into incremental surrender.
The Archbishop would protest that what he proposes is modest stuff: the recognition of some very specific aspects of Islamic law by the British courts. But what he is actually doing is much more basic, and, truth to tell, much more sneaky. He postures as a conciliator. But from the side of his mouth, perhaps barely knowing that he does it, he whispers: look, this will make it go away. Just give them this, and we're off the hook.
The worst of it is the Archbishop's craven fatalism. I don't see anything remotely "unavoidable" about the incorporation of sharia in the law of this country. I see instead liberalism kowtowing to fundamentalism, liberalism eating itself.
It is tempting, in a modern-day version of Arnold's Dover Beach, to hear the "melancholy, long, withdrawing roar" of the rule of law and secular freedom. But that is a counsel of despair. Fortunately, the values of the Enlightenment have much better, braver champions than this hapless man of the cloth.
– Matthew d'Ancona is editor of the Spectator #
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[RECAPITULATION:
British Muslims such as Saira Khan and Ed Husain (a former militant) speak out bravely against the extremists. Since writing … that Islamists have created "no-go" areas in Britain, the Bishop of Rochester, Michael Nazir-Ali, has received death threats. [… ]
We need British Muslims … to acknowledge that true liberalism is not a licence for fundamentalists to do what they want, and that citizenship requires the subordination of some ancestral practices to universal legal norms. [… ]
… what Dr Williams advances is still the jurisprudence of appeasement, moral cowardice [… ]
His lecture was a victory for those who believe the liberal West is weak. It will hearten those who suspect that we fear confrontation more than we value our own beliefs, and that, with time, we can be coaxed into incremental surrender.
[… ]
But what he is actually doing is much more basic, and, truth to tell, much more sneaky. [… ]
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Those who believe the liberal West is weak, as the writer says, will be heartened by Dr Williams' talks. It was the repeated cowardice of the West that allowed Mussolini, Hitler and the Japanese war party to take first a little bit of territory, and then to crush civil liberties, and then take a country, and then another. The cowardice cost millions and millions of lives, and uncountable destruction. It also let the atheist dictator, Josef Stalin, to seize much of eastern Europe, and to assist in China being lost.
The only correct policies are to offer a "reverse immigration" bonus to people who feel they cannot live under Britain's general customs and laws because of "heavenly commands." Britain and other developed democracies ought to severely curtail the inflow, whether temporary or otherwise, of all people not of its own native or dominant stock. Over-population, environmental destruction, and cruel governments must be fought where they are, not in other people's countries!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 13-19, 2008]
Where is the justice in sharia?
Where is the justice in sharia?
The Weekly Telegraph, Issue No. 864 (Britain, Australian edition), weekly@ telegraph. co.uk ,
by Christopher Howse, "News Review," p 26, Wed Feb 13- Tue Feb 19, 2008
Unlike Dr Rowan Williams, Christopher Howse believes that Islamic law would curtail rights for many
IF NOTHING else, the Archbishop of Canterbury - by his astonishing suggestion that Islamic sharia in Britain is "unavoidable", indeed, desirable - has at least made us ask just what this system of religious law entails.
"Nobody in their right mind," said Dr Williams, "would want to see in this country the kind of inhumanity that's sometimes been associated with the practice of the law in some Islamic states; the extreme punishments, the attitudes to women as well." But could these be avoided once the system was introduced? There is no reason why its toleration would not end up in lashing for fornication and amputation for theft.
It is not as if Dr Williams has been caught out with a carelessly formulated off-the-cuff remark. If his comments in a BBC radio interview last Thursday suggested he had taken leave of his senses, the lecture he gave to lawyers the same evening revealed a combination of wishful thinking and ignorance astonishing in a man so learned and well-meaning.
First, he did not acknowledge that Islam fails to distinguish between religious and secular rule. Sharia is translated as "law", but its infallible doctrine of duties governs the religious, political, social, domestic and private life of those who profess Islam. It also affects non-Muslims in Islamic territories.
A country like Sudan incorporated sharia into state law in 1983; in Afghanistan today, we hear of a man sentenced to death by a religious court merely for downloading an internet article about women's rights. In contrast, Egypt has strenuously resisted demands for sharia and has clung to its Western-inspired legal code. However, it has become the breeding ground for
extremists such as the Muslim Brotherhood.
There is no one sharia, any more than there is one way of living as a Muslim round the world. Sharia in Arabic means, literally, the road to a watering place: a clear path to be followed. But the path is not as clear to everyone, and there is no compilation of sharia law. The Ottoman Empire compiled a printed code in 1876, not for use in religious courts but as a reference aid in state courts; all that was abolished in 1928 when the Turkish constitution under Ataturk dropped any mention of sharia. In practice, the implementation of sharia depends on the religious judges. In Islam, sharia is the law of God as revealed in the Koran and through the behaviour and words of Mohammed as recounted in collections of stories called hadith.
"We have set you {Mohammed} on a clear path (sharia), so follow it, not the desires of those who lack true knowledge," says God in the Koran (45:18) [or 45:17], after criticising, by contrast, the Children of Israel. A great ninth-century interpreter of the Koran, ibn Jarir al-Tabari, explained that in this verse "sharia" meant the law of inheritance, the hadd-punishments, and the commandments and prohibitions. Prayer five times a day was commanded, as are almsgiving (zakat), fasting (as in Ramadan) and participation in jihad, holy war. Prohibitions, of course, include alcohol, food that is haram (forbidden), adultery, idolatry and apostasy.
THE hadd-punishments (the plural hudud means "limits") are those mentioned in the Koran that are regarded- as an unalterable prescription of the law; the "right of God".
They include scourging for illicit sex, for falsely accusing a married woman of adultery, for drinking alcohol; and the cutting off the hands for theft Stoning is not specified by the Koran, despite an effort by Umar, the second caliph of Islam, who succeeded two years after the death of Mohammed, to introduce a verse mentioning it.
[Picture of Justice but with a crescent moon at the usually pointed end of the sword, and unusual weights-pans.] Blind justice? The harsh punishments detailed in the Koran are already used in Saudi Arabia
MARINA IMPERI
Like Judaism, Islam is a thoroughly legalistic religion and, though there are no priests, there are clergy in the sense of men who know the law and make judgments. They belong to four main schools of law, the most rigorous being the Hanbali, which inspired the law in Saudi Arabia and among the Taliban. A religious scholar who gives opinions is called a mufti; his legal opinion is a fatwa - a word familiar now in a way it used not to be before Salman Rushdie was condemned to death for writing The Satanic
Verses.
It is with regard to the position of women that sharia most easily shocks us, so one of the most baffling elements in Dr Williams's prescription for introducing sharia is that it would be useful in marriage disputes. There are, he hazarded, "cultural and religious settings" where sharia would seem more "appropriate" than a British divorce court. However, if Mohammed raised the status of women in Arabia above that which they enjoyed in pre-Islamic times, the gears have been set in reverse since.
Sharia in Britain would reinforce the cultural tendency to treat women as they are treated in Indian or Pakistani rural society - not well. An expert on Islam said that "an emancipated Muslim woman would be filled with horror by these proposals for sharia".
Dr Williams said, disarmingly: "I don't know enough about the detail of the Islamic law in this context. I'm simply saying that there are ways of looking at marital disputes, for example within discussions that go on among some contemporary scholars, which provide an alternative to the divorce courts as we understand them." Since the days of the Prophet, Dr Williams thinks, "the rights and liberties of women has moved on and the principle, the vision, that animates the Islamic legal provision needs broadening because of that".
BUT sharia does not rely on principles. It derives from the revelation of God, which may not be abrogated. Dr Williams acknowledged in his lecture that "certain elements of the sharia are specified fairly exactly in the Koran". He noted that sharia "represents the mind of God". Earlier, he had referred to "principles laid down in the Koran". Here is one from the fourth sura (chapter), which deals with women: (4:34) [or 4:38]: "Admonish those women whose rebelliousness you fear, shun them in their resting-places and hit them. If they obey you, do not seek a further way against them." Women in Islam belong to the private world of home, not the public one. Menstruation renders them ritually impure. Both elements, and fear of sexual liaisons, discourage toleration of women at mosques for public prayers. Sometimes, a hidden upstairs gallery is available. In the Koran, a woman is recognised as half the value of a man when it comes to inheritance law. The value of a woman's testimony in court is also worth half a man's. A man may marry several wives, four certainly, and he may divorce them by a simple declaration. Neither a divorced woman's subsistence nor her custody of her children is secure after
her divorce. It depends on the sharia judge.
To introduce sharia in Britain would almost certainly open the door to polygamy. Last week, the Government agreed that men with multiple wives should be eligible to claim benefits for each wife. Bigamy remains illegal in England and Scotland.
And how does Dr Williams address the prohibition, even in Britain, of a Muslim woman marrying a man who is not a Muslim? This is a great taboo in Muslim society, not forbidden by the Koran, but a doctrine evolved by sharia lawyers. To impose sharia would guarantee that inter-community relations would never benefit from intermarriage between Muslims and Christians.
A great principle of Islam is that it cannot retract the stipulations of the Koran. For example, in the fifth sura, it says: "Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female." Yes, there was stoning to death among the Jews in the Old Testament but Christian interpretations of the text have changed over time. However, Muslims believe the Koran is the uncreated word of God and cannot be amended.
It is all very well saying that the harsh punishments detailed in the Koran are seldom enacted. They are in Saudi Arabia, but in any country where their exercise is barred they remain possible in theory.
In his lecture, Dr Williams repeatedly quoted the fashionable commentator Tariq Ramadan, as a Muslim from whom we can learn. He called Professor Ramadan's book Western Muslims and the Future of Islam "groundbreaking". "In the West," he quoted him as saying, "the idea of sharia calls up all the darkest images of Islam – It has reached the extent that many Muslim intellectuals do not dare even to refer to the concept for fear of frightening people or arousing suspicion of all their work by the mere mention of the word." But is the suspicion unfounded?
Professor Ramadan sounds moderate, but he lives in Britain because the United States has banned him from entry to take up an academic post. In 2005, Nicolas Sarkozy, now the President of France, then minister of the interior, banned Ramadan from entering the country. Two years earlier, Sarkozy had debated with Ramadan on television. Challenged to condemn stoning women to death for adultery, Ramadan called instead for a "moratorium".
Earlier this year, he explained to the writer Ian Buruma: "I'm against capital punishment, not only in Muslim countries, but also in the US. But when you want to be heard in Muslim countries, when you are addressing religious issues, you can't just say it has to stop."
That is true, because capital punishment (though not stoning) is commanded in the Koran. How does Dr Williams regard sharia penalties of death for apostasy? It is not as if the tide is running against the imposition of such punishments. Fundamentalist brands of Islam are attracting the young and idealistic in the West and in Islamic countries, where the practice of Islam is regarded by the extremists as corrupted. They see "moderate" Islamic rule merely as an extension of jahaliya - the state of wicked ignorance found in Arabia when Mohammed set about putting all to rights.
Muslims who seek the restoration of Islam to the pure state of the Prophet's day are known as salafis. Professor Ramadan calls himself a "salafi reformist", trying to make Islam and Western life compatible. It is to be remembered that Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab, who in 1745 set Saudi Arabia on its path of state-sponsored Islamic conformity, was a "salafi reformist" of a different stripe. His reforms ended up in the 20th century with a force of religious police, lashing for drinking alcohol, execution for adultery and the prohibition of Christian worship on Arabian territory. The most modern Islamist activists seek a universal caliphate - they want the writ of sharia to run all round the world. Where an Islamic territory is established, Islamic law comes next. But in response to the warning by Dr Michael Nazir All, the Bishop of Rochester about "no-go areas", Dr Williams said: "I don't think it's the case that we have areas where the law of the land doesn't run." One would like to think not. Next worst would be an area where sharia does run. #
Wed Feb 13 - Tue Feb 19 2008, The Weekly Telegraph
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#where_is_the
[RECAPITULATION: It is with regard to the position of women that sharia most easily shocks us, so one of the most baffling elements in Dr Williams's prescription for introducing sharia is that it would be useful in marriage disputes. [… ]
Dr Williams said, disarmingly: "I don't know enough about the detail of the Islamic law in this context. [… ]
A man may marry several wives, four certainly, and he may divorce them by a simple declaration. [… ]
Last week, the Government agreed that men with multiple wives should be eligible to claim benefits for each wife. Bigamy remains illegal in England and Scotland. [ … ] How does Dr Williams regard sharia penalties of death for apostasy? […]
a force of religious police, lashing for drinking alcohol, execution for adultery and the prohibition of Christian worship on Arabian territory.
ENDS.]
[Feb 13-19, 2008]
Terror accused 'spoke of killing 1000 people'.
[12 members of alleged bomb squad]
Terror accused ‘spoke of killing 1000 people’
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 11, Thursday, February 14, 2008
MELBOURNE - Alleged Islamic terrorists in Melbourne talked of blowing up a football ground or railway station to inflict maximum damage and loss of life, the Victorian Supreme Court was told yesterday.
Alleged leader Abdul Nacer Benbrika told his followers that if they killed 1000 people, the Government would pay attention and bring the troops back from Iraq, prosecutor Richard Maidment told the jury.
"If you kill here a thousand, the Government is going to think, because if you get large numbers here, the Government will listen," Mr Benbrika allegedly said in a recorded conversation.
Mr Maidment was opening the crown case against 12 men, including Mr Benbrika, charged with intentionally being members of a terrorist organisation involved in the fostering or preparation of a terrorist act.
It is alleged that the act or threat involved the use of a bomb or weapons in pursuit of violent jihad with the intention of coercing or intimidating the Government or the public.
Ten of the men also face other terror-related charges. They have all pleaded not guilty.
Mr Maidment said the group was infiltrated by an undercover officer known as SIO 39, who told the men he was a Muslim of Turkish background who wanted to pursue violent jihad.
The agent allegedly told Mr Benbrika he knew how to make explosives from fertiliser and went with Mr Benbrika to Mt Disappointment, north of Melbourne, to demonstrate his skills using 500g of ammonium nitrate.
[Picture] On trial: Abdul Nacer Benbrika is accused of terrorism-related offences. Picture: Fairfax
Mr Benbrika had asked how much it would take to blow up a big building and was told about 200kg. Then he asked the agent whether he could get up to 500kg, Mr Maidment alleged.
Mr Maidment said Mr Benbrika believed Australia to be a land at war, which meant that waging jihad was an Islamic duty.
Asked by one of the accused whether terrorist activity pleased Allah, he allegedly replied: "You are pleasing him because they are killing our brothers."
Mr Maidment said: "Benbrika thought it was permissible to kill innocent people, including women, children and the aged."
He said Mr Benbrika believed "jihad" had only one meaning: fighting infidels, or those who did not believe in Allah.
Mr Maidment said his alleged followers made Mr Benbrika a pledge and some of them contributed to a "sandooq", a box or a common fund of money.
The prosecutor claimed that credit card fraud and stealing cars that were stripped for parts were among other ways the group tried to raise funds for its goals.
More than once, he said, members of the group expressed "violent intent" towards people they suspected were informing the authorities about them.
Mr Maidment said Mr Benbrika was largely self-taught and, while he purported to be a Muslim sheikh able to teach on Islamic law, "the crown doesn't suggest for a moment that the views expressed by Mr Benbrika properly reflect any aspect of the true Islamic religion".
Mr Maidment said Mr Benbrika many times urged his followers to secrecy, warning one: "If you show them what we want they are going to put us in jail."
But he also told them that the work of the group could continue in jail, the prosecutor claimed.
Mr Maidment told jurors they would hear 432 conversations between the alleged terrorists recorded covertly by investigators.
He said defendant Abdullah Merhi offered himself to Mr Benbrika as a participant in a terrorist act, and sought Mr Benbrika's advice as to whether he should offer himself overseas instead because the Melbourne group's alleged plans were moving slowly.
Those accused with Mr Benbrika, 47, are Melbourne men Shane Kent, 31, Majed Raad, 23, Abdullah Merhi, 22, Aimen Joud, 23, Ahmed Raad, 24, Fadl Sayadi, 28, Ezzit Raad, 26, Hany Taha, 33, Shoue Hammoud, 28, Bassam Raad, 26, and Amer Haddara, 28.
The trial continues. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#terror_accused_spoke
[CONGRATULATIONS: Police had infiltrated the alleged bomb group. ENDS.]
[1st RECAPITULATION: Mr Maidment said Mr Benbrika believed Australia to be a land at war, which meant that waging jihad was an Islamic duty.
ENDS.]
[1st COMMENT: "A land at war" seems to be some hint of the overall Muslim doctrine that all the world is divided into two parts, the lands at peace, i.e., under Muslim rule, and the lands at war, i.e., land to be conquered by Muslims and put under Muslim rule. In spite of the prosecutor's next-quoted comment, it seems that Mr Benbrika has a clear accurate knowledge of Islam. Just as people doubted that Hitler meant what he wrote in his book, wishful thinkers around the world doubt that Islam means what it writes in its books.
ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION: … "the crown doesn't suggest for a moment that the views expressed by Mr Benbrika properly reflect any aspect of the true Islamic religion".
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Well, a few imams in Britain and other lands, recorded secretly for Channel 4 Dispatches in Britain, televised January 15, 2007, said that warlike actions, with a view to dismantling the monarchy and the House of Commons and (in the USA) the White House, were the true Islamic religion's aims. Read "Undercover Mosques: The Transcripts" at http://mpacuk. org/content/ view/3266/ 34/ .
An Indonesian imam accused of preaching to incite people to murder Australians and other tourists at a Bali night club, said on television that the viewers ought to become Muslims, so that they will be safe in this life and the next.
ENDS.]
[GORDON BROWN comments on the Undercover Mosque programme, and displays his ignorance of the Koran, Hadith, biographies, and Sharia Law, and the Wahhabi missionary work:
www.youtube. com/watch? v=iQnm-y Hak40& feature= related .
ENDS.]
[KORAN SCRIPTURE: 2:286:- … Thou art our protector: give us victory therefore over the infidel nations.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #286 >
8:67 (or 8:68):- It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. …
22:19 (or 22:20):- … But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >
47:13 (or 47:14):- And how many cities … have We destroyed? …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH: 4, 53:386:-
… "Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master." […]
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Do you doubt that Islamists would, as the first sentence says, blow up a football ground? Ask yourself who killed many of the Israeli Olympic team many years ago -- it wasn't the Anglican sewing circle! Do you doubt that people living in Australia would need convincing to blow up a railway station, where anyone of any religion or none, from babies to grandmothers, might be? Ask the people of London and Madrid if the Islamists balked as indiscriminate slaughter, any more than do the other sorts of terrorists in the world.
ENDS.]
[3rd COMMENT: Several letter-writers have suggested that Muslims who think Australia needs changing, ought instead migrate to a country run along Sharia lines. (A small number of Muslims do resist sharia, which is contrary to human rights.)
ENDS.]
FOR YOUNGER READERS: Under Australia's immigration restriction laws from around 1900 onwards, none of the above-named defendants would be learning how to make bombs in Australia, but would, we hope, be learning how to earn a living in a Muslim country.
[Feb 14, 08]
Police visit person exposing dangers.
Police visit person exposing dangers
Submission Study Unit,
Thursday, February 14, 2008
PERTH - The police visited, on the afternoon of February 14, 2008, a person exposing the danger of an Islamic mosque coming to the Swan Valley (a wine-growing region), because wine is prohibited in Islam. They were polite.
Evidently someone who received the information about the Koran's prohibition of wine, and cognate literature, thought that they were being threatened. But they mistook the direction.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#police_visit_person
[COMMENT: Note that in the United Kingdom, when the anti-democratic and pro-violence messages were exposed by UK Channel 4 Dispatches, instead of the police taking out summonses against those who conspired to do this, the UK police started an examination of Channel 4 !!! To give an example of the blindness of the Establishment, people who were teaching that if a women did not wear hijab, "we hit her," were not charged under the old laws against inciting to violence, nor the modern laws masquerading as anti-discrimination laws, for discriminating against women.
Wine is forbidden in the Koran, so the pressure to remove wine-grape crops, wineries, and vineyard bars and wine-tastings in the Swan Valley would gradually build up as the number of Muslims, attracted by the mosque, increased. One method might be to agitate against vineyards inviting tourists on Fridays, the Muslim prayer day. Or perhaps the pressure would be to close for the whole month of Ramadan - no eating or drinking during daylight hours, could be the "thin edge of the wedge."
Muslims and their supporters could become a formidable force in the local council, and bit by bit the wine industry would withdraw from the area. Possibly before the retreat in the Swan Valley, another wine area would become the proposed site for another mosque. Don't doubt it - landowners, investors, and others, as Lenin said, would even sell you the rope for their own hanging!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN: 5:90 (or 5:92):- O believers! surely wine and games of chance, and statues, and the divining arrows, are an abomination of Satan's work! Avoid them, that ye might prosper.
www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html# 90
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Feb 14, 08]
Confronting deliberate and unapologetic evil.
Confronting deliberate and unapologetic evil
News Weekly (Australia),
www.newsweekly.
com.au ,
p 13, February 16, 2008
Fifty years earlier, ordinary men had tried to finesse the evil which was Nazism. It does not work. Anyone with eyes can see that those who hate America, hate Israel, hate Christians and hate Jews these days is evil and loves hatred, just like Nazi Germany and just like the Soviet Union. The ultimate challenge for those who would wear the Reagan mantle is how to utterly defeat that deliberate and unapologetic evil which battles for our planet.
… from Bruce Walker, "America on Ronald Reagan's birthday," American Thinker, February 5, 2008.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#confronting_deliberate_and
[COMMENT: I wonder which group he is alluding to!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 16, 08]
Sharia confusion. [Opposite of Jesus.]
Sharia confusion
The Sunday Times (Perth, W. Australia),
"Your Voice," Letter to The Editor, p 83, Sunday, February 17, 2008
IN his push to have Islamic sharia law incorporated into our legal system, the Archbishop of Canterbury is doing what Sir Humphrey Appleton, [Appleby] of Yes Minister, said: "They want to be seen to be doing things."
When people find themselves in important positions, they will do and say anything to remain important, just like pop stars.
Whether we are Anglicans or not, Dr Rowan Williams is head of the supposedly Christian Anglican church and as such must have, you would hope, some idea of what constitutes the kind of God the Anglican church believes in.
One would have to wonder how adopting the thinking, and practices of Islam can coincide with the philosophy/psychology of the human condition as prescribed by Jesus, which is directly the opposite.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#sharia_confusion
[COMMENT: Yes, it is directly the opposite! Study it point by point. Funny how Canterbury, plus the Vatican and many other religious leaders, keep backtracking on that, isn't it?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 17, 08]
Muslim fanatic in soldier kidnap plot showed son, 5, how to behead British 'infidels'
Muslim fanatic in soldier kidnap plot showed son, 5, how to behead British ‘infidels’
The Daily Mail (England), www.dailymail.co.uk ,
www.dailymail. co.uk/pages/ live/articles/ news/news.html? in_article_ id=515633& in_page_ id=1770 ,
By ANDY DOLAN, Feb. 18, 2008
BRITAIN –
Parviz Khan was jailed for life today for his involvement in a plot to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier.
In mitigation, Michael Wolkind QC, defending Khan, told the court that his client's plot had been a "mixture of fanaticism and fantasy".
"His plan might have changed had British foreign policy changed," he said. "He might have withdrawn if the British troops were withdrawn."
Khan boasted to friends that he was waging financial war on the West while "bleeding" a monthly total of £1,669 in benefits from the British taxpayer.
It also emerged last week, in proceedings which could not be reported until today, that Khan wanted to burn the soldier's body and parade his head on a stick.
"This is what they call you will terrorise them, they will go crazy," he says in the recording. "They will start searching … London, Birmingham, Newcastle, where are these people?"
His lawyer insisted, however, that Khan would have abandoned the plot if Britain had changed its foreign policy and withdrawn its troops from the Middle East.
Khan was convicted last month of plotting to snatch a British Muslim soldier from the streets and film him being beheaded "like a pig" in a lock-up garage.
Basiru Gassama, 30, of Radstock Avenue, Hodge Hill, Birmingham, pleaded guilty at a previous hearing to a failure to disclose information about the plot. He was jailed today for two years and will be deported immediately.
Mohammed Irfan, 31, of Asquith Road, Ward End, Birmingham, and Hamid Elasmar, 44, of Bristol Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham, both pleaded guilty to engaging in conduct with the intention of assisting in the commission of acts of terrorism - namely helping Khan to supply the equipment.
Irfan was today jailed for four years while Elasmar was jailed for three years and four months.
Zahoor Iqbal, 30, of Elmbridge Road, Perry Barr, Birmingham, was found guilty by the jury at Leicester of the same charge. He was today jailed for seven years.
Khan, 37, built up a terrorist cell in Birmingham and planned to kidnap the soldier before filming his "ghastly" death for release to the media.
A sixth man, Amjad Mahmood, was cleared today of his involvement.
That final judgement, reached this morning, means that shocking new details about the case which could not be released previously have been made public - such as transcripts of the recordings.
Opening the case against Khan last week, prosecutor Nigel Rumfitt QC revealed Khan was recorded by a listening device at his home as he taught his five-year-old son how to carry out a beheading.
In one passage, co-defendant Hamid Elasmar asks a child: "How do you cut their neck?"
The cell had planned to capture a British soldier like this one by befriending him - and then beheading him
Khan then prompts the youngster, saying: "How do you cut them with a knife? Show me."
The bug cannot record whether the child gives an inaudible demonstration, but Khan says: "Like this. Good."
The recording, made in November 2006, was not the first to reveal how Khan wanted to pass down his extremist views to his three children.
In a conversation with his five-year-old son on May 23, 2006, an overbearing Khan asks him to recite from the Koran, telling him he would hit him with a stick if he made a mistake.
Grabbing the child's toy car off him, he asks the little boy: "Who do you love?".
"I love Sheikh Osama Bin Laden," the child replies.
Khan asks his son if he loves anyone else. The boy replies (extreme Muslim cleric) "Sheikh Abu Hamza" and (Islamic militant) "Sheikh Abdullah Rehman".
Then Khan asks the youngster: "Who do you kill?"
The child replies: "America kill."
Asked who else, the boy responds "Bush I kill" and "Blair kill".
Prompted by his father, the five-year-old says he also wants to kill "Kuffar" (an abusive term for a non-Muslim), "Hindu", "Sheedi" (a term for a black man), "Pathan" (a member of an Indian tribe) and "Sharab" (alcohol).
Khan - whose role looking after his 71-year-old mother "earned" him an allowance of £160 a week - was also recorded telling associates the only reason he was living in the UK was to steal the nation's wealth and send it abroad.
"Muslims live here for one reason - to get their wealth and give it to the Muslims," Khan told a friend while being bugged by the security services.
Explaining his remarks, Khan then added: "We shouldn't be living here … we are going to cut his throat, her throat …
"Britannia, America … by living among them we are going to squeeze them financially.
"We are here for a reason – because there is a financial war and we are going to make them bleed financially.
"If we cancel their finance and take it off them and give it to the Muslims, it's a big blessing for us."
Referring to non-believers, Khan then said fellow Muslims should "walk like them, speak like them, but don't be like them."
Khan added: "When you take from the Kafir (a term for non-believers) it makes you feel happy – take from them – then you know you are a soldier.
"It doesn't mean you need a machine gun – we are all soldiers – either we can be physical soldiers or we can be financial.
"Islam, man – getting strong and can destroy this Christianity."
Khan was claiming benefits of more than £20,000-a-year during the time he plotted to snatch the serviceman off the streets and decapitate him "like a pig".
Mr Rumfitt told the court Khan was at the hub of a terrorist cell based in Birmingham which had organised four shipments of equipment to terrorists based in Pakistan but operating against coalition forces in Afghanistan.
Mr Rumfitt said of Khan: "He was enraged by the notion that there are Muslim soldiers in the British Army.
"As your Lordship knows, there are many soldiers from many countries who serve with our forces - some of them are Muslims from the Gambia in west Africa.
"Khan decided to kidnap such a soldier with the help of drug dealers operating in Birmingham. He would be taken to a lock-up garage and there he would be murdered by having his head cut off like a pig.
"This would be filmed - they would have the soldier's ID to prove who he was and the film would be released through Khan's terrorist network to cause panic and fear with the British armed forces and the wider public."
During sentencing, Mr Justice Henriques said: "It was a plot whose purpose was to undermine democratic government, to demoralise the British Army and to destabilise recruitment, and to cause anguish to the then Prime Minister of the day and the loyal citizens of the country."
A security services probe installed in Khan's home in Foxton Road, Alum Rock, Birmingham, recorded him in November 2006 telling co-defendant Basiru Gassma what he intended to do to the soldier.
Khan was heard to say: "We give the judgement – well then cut it (the soldier's head) off like you cut a pig, man
"Then you put it on a stick. Then we throw the body, burn it, send the video to the chacha (a reference to terrorist leaders in Pakistan).
"This is what they call you will terrorise them, they will go crazy. They will start searching – London, Birmingham, Newcastle, where are these people?"
Revealing that the soldier would be befriended before being kidnapped, Khan added: "All I say to you is set it up – drug dealers they will go with him, one day, they do deal.
"Then the next time you'll take him Broad Street, wine and dine and girl and things. After that they don't get friendly."
Khan then said that on the third occasion the soldier was taken out he would be seized by three or four brothers and given a lift in a car.
"But we don't give 'em a lift, we give him a lift to hell. Game over," Khan added.
"That way nobody know. We've got enough places man. We just hang him up. We've got enough Brothers own garages man. Just bring the thing, the chef style – and let's do it, man."
Amjad Mahmood, a shopkeeper, was today cleared of any involvement in the plot.
He told the court he did not believe his friend intended to carry out his plot.
The father-of-three said had not taken seriously a claim by Khan that he had found "lads" who were ready to snatch the Muslim serviceman off the street at knifepoint.
Mahmood also said he had "no idea" that the Islamic fanatic was an active terrorist. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#muslim_fanatic_in
[RECAPITULATION:
Prompted by his father, the five-year-old says he also wants to kill "Kuffar" (an abusive term for a non-Muslim), "Hindu", "Sheedi" (a term for a black man), "Pathan" (a member of an Indian tribe) and "Sharab" (alcohol). […]
"Islam, man – getting strong and can destroy this Christianity." Khan was claiming benefits of more than £20,000-a-year during the time he plotted to snatch the serviceman off the streets and decapitate him "like a pig".
ENDS.]
[NOTE: This is the Religion News Blog version from www.religion newsblog.com/ 20692/muslim- pig-2 . The newspaper website version has been updated since they mirrored it. END.]
[INFORMATION from Religion News Blog: A secret bugging device at the home of an Islamic fanatic convicted of a plot to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier recorded his attempts to teach his five-year-old son how to perform a beheading, it has been revealed.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Surely these sorts of court cases are enough curry for the foolish English, Scots, Welsh, and Northern Irish? But no, their national leaders believe they are short of curry cooks! So uncontrolled immigration must go on -- multiculturalism beats patriotism!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[DOCTRINE: The plot is obeying the standard scriptural injunctions to strike off the heads of the disbelievers, and to fight until no other religion is left except for Allah. ENDS.]
[Feb 18, 2008]
Muslim women say no.
Muslim women say no
The West Australian,
Various Letters to The Editor, p 22, Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Muslim women say no
Neither the Islamic Council of WA nor Rahim Ghauri represent the views of Muslims in Australia. To many Muslim women, like me, aspects of sharia law pertaining to divorce and marriage represent a gross assault on the rights accorded to us in the Koran.
I would like to ask Rahim Ghauri just whose version of sharia he was referring to when he suggested that Australian taxpayers (of which I am one) should foot the bill for polygamists. I would also like to ask Mr Ghauri to name one Muslim country where the state provides for the welfare of multiple wives.
Regardless of which interpretation of sharia one adheres to, if Mr Ghauri and others wish to take on the responsibility of multiple wives, then they should be wholly and solely responsible for every aspect of their choice - financial and social.
Perhaps it is too much to hope that your newspaper would ever publish non-controversial views of Muslims but it may not be too much to hope that you would at least publish one letter from an Australian Muslim who loudly and clearly says I, like many others, do not want sharia law here.
Lift the veil
Muslim women wishing to be friendly need to make the first move. It is not easy to approach a pair of eyes when you don't know whether the rest of the face is friendly or hostile, happy or sad or even male or female.
The voice is muffled behind the veil and there are no facial expressions to help and no body language. I can't help feeling that they feel liberated because their personality is hidden from the world.
Too many laws
I do not understand why Muslims want or need sharia law in Australia. Our State and Federal laws cover every aspect of law for all.
Why would any judge want to be consulted on issues about our laws when they must know the law only too well?
I'm sure there are any number of people who would love to advise
judges on issues before the courts, yet are unable to because of the law itself.
What makes Muslims so special that they need their religious law to be incorporated in our law?
Australia needs no more laws - it already has enough.
Find the ‘truth’
We have a host of world religions competing with each other and all claiming to teach the "truth".
It is essential at this time in history that we determine once and for all what the "truth" really is. A series of international and inter-faith debates featuring the greatest academics from each faction should go head-to-head and not cease until an effective resolution of the issues is arrived at.
The lingering differences are creating division (as demonstrated by the reaction to Rowan Williams' recent comments on sharia law) which has the real potential of leading to major conflict, bearing in mind the lengths that some will go to in defence of their particular doctrine.
We need to resolve the differences with an intense and sustained battle of minds, rather than a battle of swords. It is time to "make straight the path".
Bad manners
Sibel Bennett wants people to look beyond the veil at Muslim women's qualities and intellect (Traditional covering empowers us: veiled women, 18/2). Fat chance.
Who wants to communicate with a slit? Wake up, Sibel. No one thinks you're oppressed, we just think it's extremely bad mannered for you Muslim women to walk around in public completely disguised and anonymous and then whinge about no one wanting to know you. Check out your body language some time.
As for feeling confident, empowered and liberated, ask any bank robber how empowered he feels in his balaclava. Stop whingeing - you chose it, so live with it.
We don't have to change just because you did.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#muslim_women_say
[Feb 19, 08]
Sharia has few rights for women, or for humans in general.
Sharia has few rights for women, or for humans in general
Letter to The West Australian,
Letter from an Informed Source, sent Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Congratulations to the brave Muslim woman Anissa Sherif who risked harm by writing that many Muslim women in Australia do not want sharia law in Australia (Letters 19/2). Also, let me praise Chief Justice Wayne Martin for saying there was no room for sharia in WA (report 19/2).
Ms Sherif wrote that many aspects of sharia pertaining to divorce and marriage represented a gross assault on the rights accorded to Muslim women in the Koran, and she opposed the taxpayers having to fund multiple wives (although that horse has already bolted, because the welfare system can classify them as separated or divorced, and pay them).
But reading the Koran I don't find many women's rights that are not cancelled somewhere else.
For example, a rejected wife's right to keep her dowry has a saving clause that she could agree to let the husband keep it. A defenceless woman, thrown out of home, is not in much of a position to sustain demands for her dowry when facing an armed warrior husband and his male supporters.
A married woman, if the husband dies, is only entitled to a year's maintenance, and then she must leave the family home, for it to be shared around largely among male relatives. Daughters inherit half of what sons inherit.
In documents about loans, two women's witness is equal to one man's.
If the husband suspects she is not obedient, he is entitled to lecture her, beat her, put her into a separate bed (meaning in many cases a separate room), or divorce her at his say-so. Strictly, she has no right to divorce him, so if she runs away she is doomed to a future without a husband, and of course no male soulmate. [Error: There are other alternatives.]
A woman condemned for adultery could [be] given 100 lashes and be walled up for life in early Islamic times, later changed to the Hebrew punishment of being stoned to death. Men too can share this grisly end.
Two Iranian ladies are at present under sentence of death for adultery, and a teacher accused of child abuse is also facing this. Who knows if they are guilty -- with our own police, in spite of modern advances, prosecuting innocent people, imagine what Iran's creaky law system is doing.
In sharia if the wife leaves, is rejected, or dies, the children belong to the man -- even if this is harmful to the children.
A Muslim wedding is nothing like a Western one -- she is not present at the document signing. In fact, if the documents are signed against her will, and the males at the signing swear that she has agreed to the marriage, the marriage is valid, and the husband is entitled to have sex with her, according to the Hadith.
But, over-arching all this injustice to women (and in a sense proving it) is the sharia's legalising of slavery. Slavery and piracy was practiced by the North African Islamic kingdoms even after the Westerners began banning it, and one such kingdom continued until France conquered it in 1905. Slavery is, according to the writings and current teachings, an intrinsic part of sharia.
Sharia is unjust to any human being who disagrees with the leadership -- if a Muslim, one can be branded as a hypocrite and/or an apostate, and so can be killed just like an infidel, as was ordered for Salman Rushdie by Iran's top religious leader. That leader died, but Iran's mullahs and the faithful revere him to this day, in spite of his inciting people to commit murder.
Anyone serious about Islam is working to have wine and pig-meat banned, and in recent weeks we read of Muslims blowing up other Muslims in CD and DVD shops, a pet market, a dog-fighting crowd, a political rally, as well as people attending Shi'ite shrines, which Sunni Muslims brand as akin to idolatry.
As time goes on, the "heavenly" plan is to overthrow, kill, or enslave the rest of humanity, and before the end of the world all Jews are to be hunted down and killed, as are dogs, [Error: pigs] and the cross is to be broken.
It is a cheerless violent desert culture. #
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[Feb 19, 08]
Contemporary practice of Sharia law
Contemporary practice of Sharia law
Answers.com,
www.answers. com/topic/ sharia ,
Part of the Answers for "shari‘a,"
Sighted on the Internet Tuesday, February 19, 2008
[…] There is tremendous variance in the interpretation and implementation of Islamic Law in Muslim societies today.
Liberal movements within Islam have questioned the relevance and
applicability of sharia from a variety of perspectives; Islamic feminism brings multiple points of view to the discussion. Several of the countries with the largest Muslim populations, including
Indonesia, Bangladesh and Pakistan, have largely secular constitutions and laws, with only a few Islamic provisions in family law.
Turkey has a constitution that is officially strongly secular. India and the Philippines are the only countries in the world which have
separate Muslim civil laws, framed by Muslim Personal Law board, and wholly based on Sharia and the Code of Muslim Personal Laws of the Philippines. However, the
criminal laws are uniform. Some controversial sharia laws favour Muslim men, including polygamy
and rejection of alimony.
Most countries of the Middle East and North Africa maintain a dual system of secular courts and religious courts, in which the religious courts mainly regulate marriage and inheritance.
Saudi Arabia and Iran maintain religious courts for all
aspects of jurisprudence, and religious police assert social compliance. Laws derived from sharia are also applied in Afghanistan, Libya and
Sudan. Some states in northern Nigeria have reintroduced
Sharia courts.[9] In practice the new Sharia courts in Nigeria have most often meant the re-introduction of harsh punishments without respecting the much tougher rules of evidence and testimony. The punishments include amputation of one/both hands for theft,
stoning for adultery and apostasy. [citation needed]
Many (including the European Court of Human Rights) consider the
punishments prescribed by Sharia as being barbaric and cruel. Islamic scholars argue that, if implemented properly, the
punishments serve as a deterrent to crime.[10] In
international media, practices by countries applying Islamic law have fallen under considerable criticism at times. This is
particularly the case when the sentence carried out is seen to greatly tilt away from established standards of international
human rights. This is true for the application of the death penalty for the crime of adultery, and other such punishments such as
amputations for the crime of theft and flogging for fornication or public intoxication. [1]
Though Islamic law is interpreted differently across times, places and scholars, following fundamentalist's literal and traditional interpretations, Muslim scholars believe it should
legally be binding on all people of the Muslim faith and even on all people who come under their control.[citation needed]
Laws and practices under Sharia
Marriage laws
Main article: Islamic marital jurisprudence
There are two types of marriage mentioned in the Qur'an: nikah and nikah mut'ah. The first is more common; it aims to be permanent, but can be terminated by the husband
in the talaq process or by the wife seeking divorce. In nikah the couples
inherit from each other. A legal contract is signed when entering the marriage. The husband must pay for the wife's expenses. In
Sunni jurisprudence, the contract is void if there is a determined divorce date in the
nikah, whereas, in Shia jurisprudence, nikah contracts with determined divorce dates are transformed in nikah
mut'ah. For the contract to be valid there must be two witnesses under Sunni jurisprudence. There is no witness requirements [? requirement]
for Shia contracts.
Nikah mut'ah is considered haraam by Sunni Muslims. It means "marriage for pleasure". Under Shia jurisprudence a nikah mut'ah is the second form of marriage recognized by the Shia. It is a fixed term marriage, which is a marriage with a preset duration, after which the marriage is automatically dissolved. There is
controversy about the Islamic legality of this type of marriage, since Sunnis believe it was abrogated by Prophet Muhammad, while Shias believe it was forbidden by Umar and hence that ban may be ignored since Umar had no authority to do so. The Qur'an itself doesn't mention any cancellation of the institution. Nikah mut'ah sometimes has a preset time period to the marriage, traditionally the couple do not inherit from each other, the man usually is not responsible for the economic welfare of the women, and she usually may leave her home at her own discretion. Nikah mut'ah also does not count towards a maximum of wives (four according to the Qur'an). The woman still is given her mahr, and the woman must still observe the iddah, a period of four months at the end of the marriage where she is not permitted to remarry in the case she may have
become pregnant before the divorce took place. This maintains the proper lineage of children.
Requirements for Islamic Marriages:
- The man who is not currently a fornicator can only marry a woman who is not currently a
fornicatress or a chaste woman from the people of the Book.
- The woman can only marry a Muslim man.
- The woman who is not currently a fornicatress can only marry a man who is not currently a fornicator.
- The fornicator can only marry a fornicatress -- and vice versa.
- The woman cannot marry without the consent of her guardian -- if she marries, her husband becomes her new guardian.
- The guardian may choose a suitable partner for a virgin girl, but the girl is free to contest and has the right to say
'no'.
- The guardian cannot marry the divorced woman or the widow if she didn't ask to be married.
- It is obligatory for a man to give bride wealth (gifts) to the woman he marries -- "Do
not marry unless you give your wife something that is her right." [11]
Divorce laws
Main article: Talaq (Nikah)
- A woman who wishes to be divorced usually needs the consent of her husband. However, most schools allow her to obtain a
divorce without her husband's consent if she can show the judge that her husband is impotent. If the husband consents she does
not have to pay back the dower.[citation needed]
- Men have the right of unilateral divorce. A divorce is effective when the man tells his wife that he is divorcing her. At
this point the husband must pay the wife the "delayed" component of the dower.
- A divorced woman of reproductive age must wait four months and ten days before marrying again to ensure that she is not
pregnant. Her ex-husband should support her financially during this period.[citation needed]
- If a man divorces his wife three times, he can no longer marry her again unless she marries another man and then divorces
him.[citation needed]
- These are guidelines; Islamic law on divorce is different depending on the school of thought.[12]
Hudud
Main article: Hudud
The penalty for theft
In accordance with the Qur'an and several hadith, theft is punished by imprisonment or
amputation of hands or feet, depending on the number of times it was committed and depending on the item of theft. However,
before the punishment is executed two eyewitnesses under oath must say that they saw the person stealing. If these witnesses
cannot be produced then the punishment cannot be executed. Witnesses must be either two men, or, if only one man can be found,
one man and two women. Several requirements are in place for the amputation of hands, so the actual instances of this are
relatively few; they are:
- The thief must be adult and sane.
- There must have been criminal intent to take private (not common) property.
- The theft must not have been the product of hunger, necessity, or duress.
- The goods stolen must: be over a minimum value, not haraam, and not owned by the thief's
family.
- Goods must have been taken from custody (i.e. not in a public place).
- There must be reliable witnesses (mentioned above).
- The punishment is not imposed if the thief repents.
All of these must be met under the scrutiny of judicial authority. [Qur'an 5:38][13]
The penalty for adultery
Main article: Rajm
In accordance with hadith, stoning to death is the penalty for married men and women who
commit adultery. In addition, there are several conditions related to the person who commits it that must be met. One of the
difficult ones is that the punishment cannot be enforced unless there is a confession of the person, or four male eyewitnesses
who each saw the act being committed. All of these must be met under the scrutiny of judicial authority[14] For unmarried men and women, the punishment prescribed in the Qur'an and
hadith is 100 lashes.[15]
Similarly, under Sharia a woman who is accused of adultery cannot be punished unless there are four male eyewitnesses (or
eight female ones, since two females equal one male witness) to prove she did commit adultery.[citation needed] The "four witness" standard comes from the Qur'an itself, a revelation Muhammad announced in response to accusations of adultery leveled at his wife, Aisha: "Why did they not produce four witnesses? Since they produce not witnesses, they verily are liars in the sight of Allah."[Qur'an 24:13]
Domestic punishments
Main article: Islam and domestic violence
For more details on the Islamic view of adultery, see Zina
(sex).
The word in the Quran used for "beat" is
idreb.
[4:34] It is a conjugate of the word
daraba which primarily means "to beat,
strike, to hit"
[16]. The
Arabic word
idreb is used in two primary ways. 1) to strike up a poem, and 2) to physically "beat", or "strike" someone.
Some consider "hit" to be a misinterpretation, and believe it should be translated as "admonish them, and leave them alone in
the sleeping-places and separate from them." Certain modern translations of the Qur'an in the
English language accept the commoner translation of "beat" but tone down the wording with bracketed additions. Whatever
idribu hunna is meant to convey in the Qur'an -- and ambiguities are common in Islam's holy book --
the verb is directed, not at a single husband, but to the community as a whole.
The word "idrib" is used 12 times in the Quran. Eight times it is used in the physical action of striking, and three times it
is used in the context of speaking or applying a proverb. Clearly then, the most frequent use of the word is in physically striking. Here is a Quranic verse in which "idreb" is used:
""Strike" off their heads, "strike" off the very tips of their fingers!"
[Qur'an 8:12]
Several
hadith urge strongly against beating one's wife, such as: "How does anyone of you beat his wife as he beats the stallion camel and then embrace (sleep with) her? (Al-
Bukhari, English Translation, vol. 8,
Hadith 68, pp. 42-43), "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them.
(
Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)". Others hadiths do indicate that husbands have a right to discipline their wives in a civilized manner to a certain extent:
Fear Allah concerning women! Verily you have taken them on the security of Allah, and intercourse with them has been made lawful unto you by words of Allah. You too have right over them, and that they should not allow anyone to sit on your bed whom you do not like. But if they do that, you can chastise them but not severely. Their rights upon you are that you should provide them with food and clothing in a fitting manner. (Narrated in Sahih Muslim, on the authority of Jabir.)
… 7:2803 [This is a VERY LONG segment. The words quoted require three Page Downs]
According to Sheikh
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, head of the
European Council for Fatwa and Research:
If the husband senses that feelings of disobedience and rebelliousness are rising against him in his wife, he should try his
best to rectify her attitude by kind words, gentle persuasion and reasoning with her. If this is not helpful, he should sleep apart from her, trying to awaken her agreeable feminine nature so that serenity may be restored, and she may respond to him in a harmonious fashion. If this approach fails, it is permissible for him to smack her lightly with his hands, avoiding her face and other sensitive parts. In no case should he resort to using a stick or any other instrument that might cause pain and injury.
[…]
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[RECAPITULATION:
It is a fixed term marriage, which is a marriage with a preset duration, after which the marriage is automatically dissolved. ENDS.]
[1st COMMENT: Reading the whole section on Shia temporary marriage, it seems that criticism about some Shi'ite areas that they have a kind of legalised prostitution, might merit further enquiries. ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Regarding husbands beating wives, more information needed about a "scourge" that is rumoured to be hanging over the front door of certain homes. The statement of Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi does not seem to have a real ground in the Koran. It would also be instructive to know if the Hadith quoted is one of the "reliable" ones, or one of the other categories.
The pro-Muslims who claim that "scourge" is too strong a translation are not very convincing. Around 2007-08 an Egyptian cleric was quoted as saying it was more like punching.
ENDS.]
[FOOTNOTES (clickable) will be found by transferring to the original website, and then accessing them from there.
END.]
[Sighted Feb 19, 08]
British Cardinal rejects Anglican prelate's call for Shariah law in UK.
British Cardinal rejects Anglican prelate’s call for Shariah law in UK
The Record (R.C. Perth W. Australia weekly),
by Simon Caldwell, CNS, p 11, February 20, 2008
Cardinal rejects idea of Shariah as part of British legal system; but is "saddened" by the way Anglican prelate was misunderstood and polarised
LONDON (CNS) – An English Cardinal has rejected suggestions that aspects of Shariah, or Islamic law might be incorporated into the British legal system.
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor of Westminster distanced himself from remarks made in a speech by Anglican Archbishop Rowan Williams of Canterbury, but he added he was "saddened" by the way the Archbishop had been misunderstood.
In a February 7 lecture on Islam and English law, Archbishop Williams, leader of the worldwide Anglican Communion, said Britain needed to continue to find accommodation with religious legal codes such as Shariah if community cohesion and development are to be achieved.
Archbishop Williams told the British Broadcasting Corp. hours before the lecture in London that the adoption of some aspects of Shariah in Britain "seems unavoidable." Senior Anglican bishops from around the world criticized his remarks, and some called for his resignation.
Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor declined to criticize the archbishop but made his views on Shariah clear in an interview with the Sunday Telegraph on February 10.
"I don't believe in a multicultural society," he said.
"When people come into this country they have to obey the laws of the land.
"There are going to be certain things which might clash in the overall culture of the country. That's where one has to make a judgment," he said.
"There are aspects of Shariah that are practised that we certainly wouldn't want in this country. The laws of this country don't allow forced marriages or polygamy," he said, adding that governments had "a right to make sure that those laws are kept."
The Cardinal said that multiculturalism had "meant a lessening of the-kind of unity that a country needs."
"It is not enough for people to live within their own cultures and then say 'We'll live within the freedoms that are given in this country within a totally separate culture,"' he said.
"Of course you can keep the variety of traditions, but when you enter this country there are common values which are part of its heritage, which should be embraced by everybody."
The Cardinal, one of six children of Irish migrants, said it would be better if Muslims contributed beyond their own families to the common good, saying they would then "become a normal part of this country and, indeed, cherish those values that should be common to everyone."
Muslims believe the Shariah is the revealed law of God.
It informs their religious, social, domestic and private lives but is opposed by many non-Muslims because it demands inequalities between men and women and between Muslims and people of other faiths or no faith.
In some parts of the world it is used to justify slavery and punishments such as amputations for theft, stoning for adultery and the death penalty for apostasy.
In his lecture, Archbishop Williams said that "nobody in their right mind, I think, would want to see in this country a kind of inhumanity that sometimes appears to be associated with the practice of the law in some Islamic states with the extreme punishments and the attitudes to women as well."
But he hinted that he thought Shariah courts might be an acceptable way for Muslims to settle marital disputes and financial matters.
He cautioned that such flexibility was necessary because
the increasing secularisation of the British legal system could bring religious believers into conflict with the law on matters of conscience. Archbishop Williams refused to apologise for his remarks when he addressed the Church of England General Synod in London on February 11.
He said much of what he said had been misinterpreted and that he believed "quite strongly that it is not inappropriate for a pastor of the Church of England to address issues about the perceived concerns of other religious communities and to try to bring them into better public focus."
Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor told BBC Radio 4s "Sunday" program, "I think he did raise a point of considerable interest and concern at the moment, namely, the rights of a religious group within a secular state."
"Everyone in Britain must obey the law and, therefore, the question of how one can be a loyal British citizen and a faithful member of a religious group is a very pertinent question," he said on February 10.
Archbishop Williams' lecture was praised on February 11 by the Christian Muslim Forum, an organisation founded partly by the government to further community cohesion.
"The Archbishop has opened an important debate, not primarily about Shariah, but about the broader issues around the rights of religious groups within a secular state," said a statement co-signed by the forum presidents, including Catholic Bishop Michael Evans of East Anglia.
Dominican Fr Timothy Radcliffe, former worldwide head of the Dominican order who is now based in Oxford, called Archbishop Williams' arguments "intelligent and subtle" and the reaction "hysterical."
"Christians believe that our intelligence is a gift from God, which should embolden us to probe complex issues, and the archbishop has shown real Christian leadership in daring to do so," Fr Radcliffe wrote in a February 11 letter to The Times, a London-based daily newspaper. #
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[1st RECAPITULATION: "… The laws of this country don't allow forced marriages or polygamy," he said, adding that governments had "a right to make sure that those laws are kept." The Cardinal said that multiculturalism had "meant a lessening of the-kind of unity that a country needs." […]
In some parts of the world it is used to justify slavery and punishments such as amputations for theft, stoning for adultery and the death penalty for apostasy.
ENDS.]
[1st COMMENT: A Daniel come to judgement!
ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION:
Dominican Fr Timothy Radcliffe, former worldwide head of the Dominican order who is now based in Oxford, called Archbishop Williams' arguments "intelligent and subtle" and the reaction "hysterical." ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: If the Rev. Tim. Radcliffe was treated like Van Gogh was treated in Holland, would he ask his attacker "Can't we talk about this" just before his throat was cut? ENDS.]
[KORAN: 2:193 (or 2:189), and 8:12.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH: Vol. 2, Bk. 19, No. 173.
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[Feb 20, 08]
Father queried bomb plot: SC
[Shoue Hammoud, and Abdul Nacer Benbrika, also known as Sheikh Abu Bakr]
Father queried bomb plot: SC
sp;
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 15, Thursday, February 21, 2008
MELBOURNE – The father of alleged Melbourne terror cell member Shoue Hammoud demanded to know if his son was involved in a plot to "blow up Australia", a court has been told.
In a telephone conversation intercepted by police, Mohammed Hammoud pleaded with his son to stay away from a group of friends and from the group's leader, Abdul Nacer Benbrika.
He-also asked his son to "swear to Allah" that he was not in trouble with the police.
Shoue Hammoud is one of 12 men on trial over various
terror-related offences, including intentionally being a member of a terrorist organisation and preparing and fostering a terrorist act.
The Victorian Supreme Court has been told he and several other young Muslim men formed a group under the guidance of Benbrika, a self-styled religious scholar also known as Sheikh Abu Bakr.
"Someone come to tell me this morning … that you're going to make a bomb," Mohammed Hammoud said to his son in the phone call.
"You're going to blow up Australia."
Shoue Hammoud denied the claim, only to be told by his father "the police are watching you every step".
Prosecutor Richard Maidment
SC has told the jury the group to which Shoue Hammoud belonged planned to engage in violent jihad, or holy war, in Australia.
He said that early in 2005 Mohammed Hammoud telephoned his son to ask him about rumours that the police were looking at the group.
"I've heard about rumours … are you involved with the police at all?" Mr Hammoud asked.
His son said he was not and asked who gave his father the information.
Shoue Hammoud and members of his group had been the subject of police raids several months earlier, in which terror-related documents were seized and a stolen car uncovered in the garage of one of the accused men.
Mohammed Hammoud told his son he had heard the police were watching him, to which his son replied people were "telling you crap".
His father then implored him to swear to Allah that he was telling the truth, to which he replied: "Yes."
"Stay away from these people please (Benbrika's group), I don't want you to get involved in anything," Mohammed Hammoud said in transcripts of phone intercepts read to the jury.
Soon after the exchange between father and son, Shoue Hammoud's uncle Ahmed Abboud made a similar call to his nephew, which was also intercepted.
Shoue Hammoud told Mr Abboud that he saw Abu Bakr (Benbrika) often, to which the uncle said: "My advice is to keep away from him."
Mr Abboud went on to tell Shoue Hammoud that another sheikh in their community had given information to the police about the Benbrika group. The trial before Justice Bernard Bongiorno continues. #
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[Feb 21, 08]
[Paying out for the future voters.] In short.
IN SHORT
[Paying out for the future voters.]
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor, p 22, Thursday, February 21, 2008
This was reported in the British news magazine
The Week, February 9 edition: "Although bigamy is illegal in this country, ministers have decided that where benefit claims are concerned, polygamous marriages can be recognised by the state – provided the wedding took place in a country where they are legal.
In future, claimants in polygamous marriages will be entitled to the standard couple rate of 92.80 pounds per week plus 33.65 pounds for each additional spouse."
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[COMMENT: Well, that's one way to work towards a knife-edge lifestyle like Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, northern Nigeria, Bangladash, Pakistan, parts of India, parts of Malaysia, Indonesia, the southern Philippines, or Iran. "England's green and pleasant land," indeed! More pyrotechnics seem to be on the agenda!
Can't you just see the increase in overseas trips to "marry" unfortunate girls, ordered by their fathers or other male relations to do so?
And see if the polygamous "fundamentalist" Latter Day Saints (offshoots of the main Mormon religion) will also see a way to add to future electoral rolls.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 22, 08]
What about our choice? Islam. [Forcing their culture on us.]
ISLAM
WHAT ABOUT OUR CHOICE?
The West Australian,
Various Letters to The Editor, p 22, Thursday, February 21, 2008
We can't see
Your report on Sibel and Khadija (18/2) was most helpful. It made it clear to me that they are happy, friendly women, worth getting to know.
I needed to be told this because I couldn't judge for myself from outside the veil.
I couldn't see if Sibel was smiling or baring her teeth. If only she could see that this makes us keep our distance.
WHAT ABOUT OUR CHOICE?
How interesting that Sibel Bennett (Traditional covering empowers us: veiled women, 18/2) should be telling us that "the traditional veiled covering empowers us".
She says that the veil allows her to choose who gets to see her, never mind that the rest of us have no choice in who sees us.
Of course, we could all have the rudeness to go around covering our faces, but can anyone imagine what a terrible world it would be if everyone were to walk around hiding their identity behind a mask or the effect it would have on our thinking, development and whole way of life?
These people are from another culture, but they are quite happy to force their culture on the rest of us. The truth is, it's all about their determination to never integrate but to dominate our thinking and way of life until we capitulate to them.
I know because I was once a Muslim.
SHARIA LEADS TO CONFLICT
As a Muslim I do not support the introduction of sharia law in Australia.
Australia is not a Muslim country. Sharia law applies only where the majority of the people are Muslims.
Introduction of sharia law would be in direct conflict with Australian law in many ways. For example, in the law of evidence, sharia law will only consider evidence from two Muslim women whereas under our Australian law only one woman is needed to furnish evidence for or against any matter. The equality of genders is the issue here.
Under sharia law a Muslim husband may beat his wife but under the Australian law it is considered physical abuse and is punishable.
As a migrant who came here 27 years ago, I have no problem with Australian law, except that soft or lenient sentences have become a joke.
THEY CAN GO HOME
My father, like many hundreds of thousands of young Australians, fought and died defending our way of life for everyone – male and female.
After World War II there were thousands of migrants and refugees brought out from Europe. They came to our schools, many were given nicknames, but we all played together and grew up together.
They were all prepared to assimilate. Now some of my best friends came from Hungary, Poland, Sicily, Germany and a few other European countries.
I believe anyone choosing to live here in Australia should adapt and abide by our laws. If they don't like them, nothing is stopping them from returning to where they came from – and it's about time that our politicians realised this before it is too late.
Today's text
All wisdom comes from the Lord, and so do common sense and understanding. -- PROVERBS 2:6.
(The Bible for Today). From the Bible Society.
Letters to the Editor, WA Newspapers, GPO Box N1027 Perth WA 6843. Fax 08 9482 3830. E-mail to: letters@wa news.com.au
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[COMMENT: It would be interesting to know if the many non-Muslim and Muslim letter-writers who have suggested that those who want to live under Muslim laws go to a Muslim-dominated country, have consistently opposed super-immigration, or political candidates who called for a halt during the years-long drought, or any other sensible and humane action to keep Australia Australian.
It is to be noted that the Pauline Hanson moves, and even the faltering, flawed, but successful efforts of the John Howard government to stop the people-smugglers and the boat people, were derided by the "chattering classes" and many well-meaning but knowledge-lacking people.
Have these letter-writers regularly told politicians they don't want the schools of Sharia and its foundation faith helped by taxpayer funds? Have they sought information for the deep-down reason that drives the major political parties, leaders like Kim Beazley Jr., and some minor parties, in their non-sustainable population drives?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN: Veils, see 33:59 (or 33:57).
Not making friends with Jews, Christians or infidels, see 5:51 (or 5:56), or
5:57 (or 5:62).
DOCTRINE ENDS.
[Feb 21, 08]
• [Suicide and other bombings, Bali bombers appeal again -- while the US and others go on flouting global torture treaty.]
[Suicide and other bombings, Bali bombers appeal again – while the US and others go on flouting global torture treaty.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Thursday, February 21, 2008
Page 16. "Last-ditch appeal by bombers next week." INDONESIA:

The "smiling assassin" Amrozi Nurhasym, his brother Ali Ghufron (alias Mukhlas) and Imam Samudra will begin a final legal challenge on Monday February 25. They have been convicted over the Bali nightclub bombings that killed 202 people, including 88 Australian, in October 2002.
Page 22. [Immigration cash cow versus compo to Aussies.] AUSTRALIA:

Letter: The Immigration Department is paying $1.4m to immigrant Cornelia Rau and $800,000 to the detained Iranian refugee who sewed up his lips. The Department is becoming a cash cow for immigrants working the system, aided by refugee support groups and greedy lawyers.
But Sgt Shane Grey, bashed by a Victorian murderer, is offered $34,000 and Const. Matthew Butcher, bashed at Joondalup, is told the maximum is $75,000.
Page 24. "Gangs attack Kosovo border." PRISTINA:

Serbian gangs have set fire to buildings along the border between Serbia and its former Kosovo province, which this week declared itself independent. The north is populated mainly by Orthodox Christians, some of whom seek partition, and the south by Muslims. The United Nations mission has governed Kosovo since 1999. Australia is one of the countries that recognised Kosovo's independence, and there was a bomb scare in Zagreb, Croatia.
Page 30. "Israeli general escaped arrest." LONDON:

British police refused in 2005 to arrest Israeli retired Maj-Gen. Doron Almog, who stayed on the plane at Heathrow airport. They feared an armed fightback by air marshals. The charge is over his role in Gaza during 2002 when Israeli forces destroyed 59 houses in Rafah refugee camp, from which fire was coming.
Page 30. "Let's do a Kosovo, says Abbas aide." PALESTINE:

A top aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said yesterday that Palestinians ought to follow Kosovo's lead and declare an independent state unilaterally if peace talks with Israel continue to falter.
Page 42. "Dud MiG fighters humiliate Russians." MOSCOW:

Algeria has demanded that Russia take back 15 MiG fighter jets supplied under a multi-billion-dollar arms deal because of quality concerns. A representative of the manufacturers said that quality control was almost nonexistent, partly due to loss of staff etc.
Page 43. "Iraqi doctors on brink of defeat." IRAQ:

The Iraqi medical system is on the brink of collapse. Since the invasion by the United States, Britain, and Australia in 2003, 618 medical personnel including 132 doctors had been killed. Followers of Shi'ite cleric Moktadar al-Sadr were turning hospitals into bases for his Mahdi militia, and supplies were being stolen.
Page 43. "Death toll rises ahead of cleric's deadline." IRAQ:

Ten people were killed in a suicide attack at a market near Baquba, and 15 were wounded. On Tuesday as many as 15 policemen were killed and 27 wounded, while three US troops were killed by an improvised explosive device in a separate attack. Renewed rocket attacks raise concern ahead of a deadline for the anti-US cleric Moktadar al-Sadr to renew his ceasefire order.
Page 44. "Bird flu conspiracy alleged." JAKARTA, Indonesia. :

Indonesian Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari has claimed that the US and the World Health Organisation are part of a global conspiracy to profit from the spread of bird flu. Her new book, outlining these views, have been ordered withdrawn, it is understood. Indonesia is said to be blocking sharing samples from human victims. Dr Supari's claim that Indonesian virus samples had previously been sent to a biological weapons laboratory in Los Alamos, New Mexico, was denied by the laboratory. .
Page 44. "10 criminals executed." IRAN:

Iran hanged 10 criminals yesterday, six in Zanjan city for armed robbery, and four in Teheran for murder.
Page "Today 14." "Prejudice and fear can run deep." Film review of "Resolution," M., 3 ½ stars, review by Mark Naglazas.

The film is about an Egyptian-born engineer who spent his entire adult life in the US, and is kidnapped by US operatives in Chicago and "rendered" to a North African country, where he is beaten, humiliated, and "waterboarded," (i.e., a wet towel is wrapped around the head to give the victim the feeling of drowning).
In real life, the reviewer notes,
The New York Times recently reported that US Attorney-General Michael Mukasey declared that "waterboarding" torture is a perfectly legal tactic in the war on terror.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#suicide_and_other
[1st COMMENT: In Iraq, in spite of a US general this week stating that conditions were improving, the reality is that cleric Moktadar
al-Sadr's ceasefire, and some Al-Qaeda requests for the Muslims to stop killing each other, are probably the cause of the lull in murders.
Everyone ought to remember that during the Vietnam War US General Westmorland was quoted in the news media and the Reader's Digest as saying the victory was won, and mopping up was all that was needed. The US and its allies withdrew in 1972, leaving the Communists to seize the rest of the country and continue their persecution of the Vietnamese.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT, about waterboarding: Torture's main effect is to create more terrorists. The amount of information extracted is usually minimal. Because of the US's complete failure to be selective, the vast majority of the people they have "rendered" and those sent to Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, and prisons in Europe and elsewhere in the world, are normal ordinary people. They have no information to give, so the US is really creating more potential terrorists, at great cost to the US taxpayer, and to the credibility of the "Christian" and "democratic" nations. Bush and his business associates are really state-backed terrorists themselves. They do a lot of harm to the cause of exposing the anti-humane nature of Islam and Sharia Law. Being a terrorist is no way to fight terrorism!
ENDS.]
[Feb 21, 08]
Jihad cell suspects 'targeted informer'.
Jihad cell suspects ‘targeted informer’
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 18, Friday, February 22, 2008
MELBOURNE – Members of an alleged Melbourne terror cell wanted to "flog" and "smash" an associate they believed had informed police of their plans to conduct violent jihad, the Victorian Supreme Court was told yesterday.
Prosecutor Richard Maidment told the court that on New Year's Day 2005, senior members of the group gathered to discuss rumours circulating about them in the local Muslim community.
The court was told that the fathers of two of the men had confronted them with the rumours and speculation, one of them telling his son "the news has reached all over the world".
Mr Maidment said the reaction of the so-called terror group to the situation pointed to their guilt.
"No one is saying, 'How outrageous'," Mr Maidment told the jury.
"The concern is the truth is out – and they're going to get arrested."
On trial are Abdul Nacer Benbrika, 48, Aimen Joud, 22, Hany Taha, 32, Shoue Hammoud, 27, Fadl Sayadi, 27, Ahmed Raad, 24, Abdullah Merhi, 22., Amer Haddara, 28, Shane Kent, 30, Majed Raad, 23, Bassam Raad, 25, and Ezzit Raad, 25.
They have pleaded not guilty to charges including being members of a terrorist organisation.
Mr Benbrika, Mr Joud, Mr Hammoud and Mr Taha concluded that a former member of the group, named only as Baha, was the informer and they were secretly recorded by police plotting their revenge.
"You know what brother? You just walk up to his door and just smash him," Mr Joud said on tape.
Mr Hammoud proposed a "flogging".
"I'll go rough him up a bit and say, 'Why am I getting headaches about things nobody knows except you?'," Mr Hammoud said.
"Just give him a flogging."
Mr Benbrika suggested they take Baha into the bush and tie him to a tree to get the truth from him, and agreed to put a curse on Baha.
The court was told the fathers of Mr Hammoud and Mr Taha had warned their sons about associating with Mr Benbrika.
Mr Taha was recorded telling Mr Joud and Mr Benbrika his father had told him the "police are trying to get all the brothers".
Mr Hammoud said he was less concerned about the accusations than about how far the rumours had spread.
"Just from the talk, they are going to get us arrested I am telling you," he said. "They think we are doing the forbidden and the abominable."
But Mr Benbrika assured them they were safe because the police would have arrested them if they had any evidence.
"They didn't arrest us or nothing because they don't have nothing," he said in the intercepted conversation.
The trial before Justice Bernard Bongiorno continues today. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#jihad_cell_suspects
[Feb 22, 08]
Jihadis use foreign phone networks.
Jihadis use foreign phone networks
The Weekend Australian,
ausletr@news corp.com.au ,
by Richard Kerbaj, p 7, February 23-24, 2008
COUNTER-TERRORISM agencies fear that local extremists are increasingly using mobile phones connected to overseas networks to thwart investigators and spread hardline propaganda.
Agents from Victoria Police and ASIO are investigating the sale of mobile phones within Melbourne's Somali community that are being used to receive al-Qa'ida-linked motivational videos of Islamic extremists
torturing and beheading "infidels".
The connection of mobiles to overseas networks is frustrating police as bugging telephones has been a good method of tracking and infiltrating suspected extremists. The Weekend Australian understands the mobile phones are being sold at some hardline Islamic prayer halls and mosques in Melbourne for between $500 and $1000.
It is believed the phones are connected to telephone networks in Lebanon and Syria.
The phones are connected to anonymous foreign accounts and calls, emails and video messages are limited to phones using the same overseas network to make them more difficult to trace.
Making overseas calls from an international phone in Australia involves the transmission of signals to a local phone tower, which then sends a signal to a fixed-line network before getting through to the overseas destination.
Phones connected to overseas networks are more difficult if not
impossible for authorities to track.
Security sources told The Weekend Australian there was concern the phones were predominantly being sold to young Muslim Somalis who were vulnerable to extremist messages.
"The phones are able to receive and send all sorts of videos, including radical sermons, assassinations and beheadings of infidels by Islamic terrorists," a security source said.
Australian Federal Police Association chief executive Jim Torr said the AFP was aware that criminals were increasingly using phones connected to overseas networks.
"And it's not just your profit-motivated criminals who will use this (technology), it's also terrorists who will use mobile phones in particular, so it's certainly a big deal," Mr Torr said.
It is understood that Victorian authorities are looking at ways of involving telecommunications networks such as Telstra in the latest investigation through the Special Projects Unit, which has an agreement with networks entitling it to obtain call records.
Among the alleged distribution points is the Eight Black prayer centre in North Melbourne. The centre has been the subject of a federal police investigation, Operation Rochester, as well as investigations by Victorian police and ASIO, over the past two years after allegations that radical sermons had been preached at the prayer hall and young Somalis attending the centre had returned to join Islamic jihad in their homeland. The investigations are ongoing.
Islamic leaders at Eight Black, including senior imam Sheik al-Somali, have rejected accusations that the prayer centre is a proponent of radical Islam.
Agents believe the primary seller of the phones is a Somali community member from Melbourne's northern suburbs. They said they were unaware of how many phones were in circulation. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#jihadis_use_foreign
[COMMENT: So, does this mean that Dr Haneef, who left an Australian mobile phone sim card with a family connection (linked to a poorly-executed bombing) in Britain, has a case to answer, in spite of the big campaign to blame the Australian authorities (in the Howard government) for refusing to allow him back into Australia?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 23-24, 2008]
Islam culture oppresses women: former Muslim.
Islam culture oppresses women: former Muslim
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
By MICHAEL BENNETT, p 11, Saturday, February 23, 2008
PERTH –
A woman who lived most of her life as a Muslim before renouncing her faith and joining the Catholic Church has labelled parts of sharia law and the Muslim culture as "sick", "disgusting" and "oppressive for women".
Shereen Zailanee, who was born and raised in Singapore and has lived in Australia for 10 years, was angered by claims in The West
Australian on Monday made by Muslim women Sibel Bennett and Khadija.
She said their assertions that living life behind a veil made them feel empowered, confident and liberated were ridiculous and the issue was one that divided her Muslim family and had separated her from friends.
"I think these women who hide their faces are being oppressed, people use religion like poison," Ms Zailanee, from Perth, said.
"We could all have the rudeness to go around covering our faces but can anyone imagine what a terrible world it would be if everyone were to walk around hiding their identity behind a mask.
"What effect would that have on our thinking, development and way of life?
[Picture] Swap: Shereen Zailanee was a Muslim and now is Catholic. Her Catholic mother had to convert to Islam to marry but secretly went to church. Picture: Nic Ellis
"These people are from another culture but are quite happy to force their culture on the rest of us. The truth is it's all about their determination to never integrate but to dominate our thinking and way of life until we capitulate to them."
Describing parts of her religious upbringing as "painful", she said children forced into Islam by birth were never given any choice throughout life.
"When you are living it, it's not strange because you think that's the way it has always been but when you stand back and have a look at it you realise how frightening it can be," Ms Zailanee, 30, said. "If I have children Islam will not enter their lives."
She expressed disbelief over the recent controversy in Australia and England sparked by comments from Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams that courts should consider sharia law in their judgments.
"It should not be given a consideration," she said. "People want to impose sharia law because they want to bring Muslim cultures here. Why? If you want to do that live in a Muslim country."
Ms Zailanee said since September 11, "being Muslim" had taken on a new meaning that rendered itself "untouchable" in the Western world.
‘women who hide their faces are being oppressed, people use religion like poison.’
SHEREEN ZAILANEE
"The religion has developed an arrogance that places itself above other religions. It's a sick culture," she said. "Muslim people look at it and give it an importance – 'I'm a Muslim, you can't touch me'."
Throughout Ms Zailanee's childhood, her mother, who had been raised Catholic but forced to convert to Islam to marry, secretly attended a Catholic Church.
"Why should any religion have the power to dictate someone to live like this," she said. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#islam_culture_oppresses
[KORAN: 9:80 (or 9:81).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Feb 23, 08]
'Maximum damage' was terror accused's order.
‘Maximum damage’ was terror accused’s order
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 19, Saturday, February 23, 2008
MELBOURNE – Accused Melbourne terror-cell leader Abdul Nacer Benbrika told two Sydney associates "we want to die for jihad" and do "maximum damage" to lives and to buildings, the Supreme Court was told yesterday.
Mr Benbrika is alleged to have said: "Everyone has to prepare himself. Or to die or be jailed. Allah know best. I don't want this kind of life. Give that to them. But we have to be careful.
"We want to die for jihad. We do maximum damage, maximum damage. Damage their buildings with everything, and damage their lives just to show them. That's what we are waiting for."
He warned the men: "You be careful– Trust no one."
His alleged conversation on February 23, 2005, with the Sydney contacts – named only as "Khaled One" and "Abdul"– was covertly recorded by investigators.
[Picture] Be prepared: Abdul Benbrika cautioned his followers to trust no one.
Prosecutor Richard Maidment told the court that Khaled One and Abdul had previously attended a camp at Louth in NSW with several of the 12 Melbourne men, including leader Mr Benbrika, who are being tried for terror offences.
The men have pleaded not guilty to all charges. Mr Maidment said Mr Benbrika also told the Sydney men that he had refused to talk to ASIO
agents who visited his home several days earlier.
The prosecutor quoted Mr Benbrika as saying: "They are dogs. Shouldn't talk to them, even for normal questions, for, 'How are you?' I don't answer you. Just get lost."
Mr Maidment said several conversations recorded Mr Benbrika talking about a 1600-page book on jihad that he wanted to print.
Mr Maidment said he talked about it as "a good and dangerous book".
Mr Benbrika was asked by an unidentified male, "about dogma or something like that?" Mr Benbrika allegedly replied, "No, no, it's about killing."
Mr Maidment said Mr Benbrika was also recorded telling several of his fellow accused it was important that the "brothers" (members of the group) not get scared. Mr Benbrika said that if anyone got caught, they could argue they were "young" and "naive", Mr Maidment said.
"So instead of getting 10 years imprisonment, they get two years. That's what he's saying," Mr Maidment said.
He also accused two of the men of colluding to lie to police who were investigating an outing the group had made to King Lake on December 11, 2004.
The trial continues before Justice Bernard Bongiorno on Monday. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#maximum_damage_was
[RECAPITULATION: Allah know [sic] best. I don't want this kind of life.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Would that mean he dislikes the life he leads in Australia? So, why don't the oil millionaire rulers in Arab lands offer dissatisfied Muslims free migration and jobs or businesses in Muslim lands? Instead, the oil sheikhs offer money for mosques, booklets, DVDs, and other missionary work in Western lands.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[2nd RECAP:
"They are dogs. Shouldn't talk to them, even for normal questions, for, 'How are you?' I don't answer you. Just get lost." ENDS.]
[KORAN: 33:48 (or 33:47):- And obey not (the behests) of the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and heed not their annoyances, but put thy Trust in Allah. For enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. {Also see}
2:193,
5:80 (or 5:83), and 60:4.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[OTHER COVERAGE: "Terror suspect urged 'maximum damage'," The Weekend Australian, p 7, February 23-24, 2008.
ENDS.]
[Feb 23, 08]
No to sharia law.
No to sharia law
The Sunday Times (Perth, W. Australia),
Letter to The Editor, p 69, February 24, 2008
AS a Muslim, I do not support the introduction of sharia Islamic law in Australia.
First, Australia is not a Muslim country. This law only applies to where the majority of Muslims dwell.
Second, the introduction of sharia law will be in direct conflict with Australian law in many ways.
The equality of genders is the issue. Under sharia law, a Muslim husband may beat his wife, but under Australian law it is considered physical abuse and is punishable.
As a migrant who came here 27 years ago, I have no problem with Australian law, barring that soft or lenient sentences have become a joke.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#no_to_sharia
[Feb 24, 08]
Bishop stands up to Islamic threats. [Fled from Pakistan from Islamists threats, now similar in Britain.]
Bishop stands up to Islamic threats
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 10, Monday, February 25, 2008
LONDON – Anglican bishop Michael Nazir-Ali, who received death threats for airing his views on Islamic issues, has vowed to continue to speak out.
Dr Nazir-Ali's claim that Islamic extremism had turned some parts of Britain into "no-go" areas for non-Muslims led to fierce rows between political and religious leaders over the impact of multiculturalism on the nation.
His comments were followed by the suggestion by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, that the adoption of aspects of sharia law in Britain was "unavoidable".
The bishop's views sparked a storm of criticism and raised questions over the role of the Church in society but, most seriously for Dr Nazir-Ali, led to threats that he and his family would be harmed.
Yet the Bishop of Rochester remains steadfastly defiant. He will not be silenced.
"I believe people should not be prevented from speaking out," he said. "The issue had to be raised. There are times when Christian leaders have to speak out."
Dr Nazir-Ali arrived in Britain in the 1980s and seems to have taken up the mantle for defending the country's values he fears are being threatened by a loss of its Christian heritage.
[Picture] Strong opinions: The Bishop of Rochester, Michael Nazir-Ali.
Threats were made warning that he would not "live long" and would be "sorted out" if he continued to criticise Islam.
"If you disagree, that must be met by counter-arguments, not by trying to silence people," he said. "It was a threat not just to me, but to my family. I took it seriously, so did the police. It gave me sleepless nights."
But it's not the first time that his life has been endangered.
Shortly after being made a bishop in Pakistan – at 35 he was the youngest in the Anglican Church – he was forced to flee to Britain to seek refuge from Muslims who wanted to kill him.
He says he never expected to suffer the same treatment in Britain.
"The real danger to Britain today is the spiritual and moral vacuum that has occurred for the last 40 or 50 years," he said. "When you have
such a vacuum something will fill it.
"If people are not given a fresh way of understanding what it means to be a Christian and what it means to be a Christian-based society then something else may well take the place of all that we're used to and that could be Islam."
A respected academic – he studied at Cambridge and Oxford universities – he speaks with a measured deliberation. "There are extremist movements in this country whose agenda is far from integration, we must be aware of this," he said. "It is not only a threat to security but to integration. They are significant enough to influence sections of young people."
Just over a year ago Muslim radical Abu Izzadeen heckled former home secretary John Reid as he tried to deliver a speech on targeting potential extremists.
There was widespread dismay at the outburst but nobody had dared try to suggest that these views were entrenched across the country until the bishop spoke last month.
In warning of attempts to impose an Islamic character on certain areas, for example by amplifying the call to prayer from mosques, he seems to have tapped the fears of a big section of society.
To many, he has become a champion of traditional Christianity but within the Church, Dr Nazir-Ali finds himself isolated from colleagues. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#bishop_stands_up
[RECAPITULATION: There was widespread dismay at the outburst but nobody had dared try to suggest that these views were entrenched across the country until the bishop spoke last month.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Not so! Surveys among Muslims in Britain over recent years have consistently shown that there is an increaing percentage of Muslims seeking radical Islamisation of the country, and applauding terrorist acts such as 9/11, the death threats to author Salman Rushdie and the Danish cartoonists, and the suppression of women's rights by sharia law being imposed in Britain. Politicians have recently taken another step towards capitulation, and will now pay welfare benefits to all the wives and children of polygamists! (That is, if they have not ALREADY been paying it, and not prosecuting the polygamist men.)
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 25, 08]
Contractors beheaded in web video. [12 more victims of religious phobia.]
Contractors beheaded in web video
The Sunday
Times Online, (Perth, W. Australia),
www.news.com. au/perthnow/ story/0,21598, 23272321- 950,00.html , 02:25pm, February 25, 2008
From correspondents in Dubai –
AN Iraqi militant group has posted a video on the internet showing the killings of 12 Nepalese men who worked for a Nepalese company with a US contract.
A militant beheaded one of the men with a knife.
The rest were shot in the back while laying face down in a sandy lot, the video, posted by an Islamist group called the Army of Ansar al-Sunna, showed. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#contractors_beheaded_in
[KORAN: 8:67 (or 8:68):- It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[COMMENT: What happened to the Nepalese is following the Message, but it is revelling in cruelty and savagery. Although not "politically correct" to even think about such wickedness, some Muslim countries have public beheadings, floggings, etc., now in the 21st century. "By their fruits you shall know them."
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 25, 08
[Sharia law depresses rights of women, widows, and children.]
[Sharia law depresses rights of women, widows, and children.]
From An Informed Source, Letter to an Anglican archbishop, February 26, 2008
Dear Rev. Sir,
Sharia law is the law of a warrior religion, based on man-made doctrines masquerading as orders from Heaven.
Acquiring knowledge about the Koran, the Hadith, the Sira, etc., requires much reading. To assist, the comments on the back of the "WA" editorial [Feb 12, 2008], and two pages of the Koran Key, are enclosed.
If you think that sharia law could assist in women's matters, such as divorce and custody of children, and a widow's rights – God bless you!
Yours truly, [Signed]
P.S.: Would the slaves of Muslims be allowed to appeal to civil courts in Australia?
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#sharia_law_depresses
[COMMENT: This is published on the World Wide Web, because there could be gullible members of Churches who think that the Church of England's Archbishop of Canterbury and other Christian leaders betray their faiths because of not having the necessary information. The Arabic-language Koran (or Quran, finished 632 AD) was translated into Latin in 1143 A.D. Already the empire of Persia had been overthrown, and the Christian Eastern Roman Empire of Constantinople (Byzantium) partly dismembered by conquests. Other translations were done over the years into many leading languages.
The persecutions of Christians by the Arabs and the Saracens, the attacks by Moors, the conquests of the Turks, the piracy and slave-taking of the Barbary Coast sheikdoms, and the invasions and persecutions of Ethiopia and much of Africa and Asia told historians that the translators had captured the main flavour of the conquering enslaving teachings of the Koran and the other documents.
The beheadings (such as one of the 12 Nepalese reported Feb 25) are directly obeying Koran directives to strike off the heads of the disbelievers. The bombings of shrines, markets, shops, doctors, aircraft, etc., are following a text that garments of fire will be cut out for disbelievers.
Western leaders have no excuse for cowardice! Tiny Denmark shows more courage and knowledge than the world leader of millions of Anglicans, in the capital city of a powerful nation!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 26, 08]
Muslim mum discrimination case headed to Supreme Court.
Muslim mum discrimination case headed to Supreme Court
The Local, Sweden,
http://www.thelocal.se/10128/20080227/ ,
and at www.religion newsblog.com/ 20787/ islamic- extremism-48 ,
Feb. 27, 2008
SWEDEN –
The City of Gothenburg has appealed to Sweden's highest court to avoid paying damages to two Muslim mothers who were kicked out of a swimming pool for not removing their veils.
A month ago, the Court of Appeal for western Sweden found the city guilty of ethnic discrimination and ordered it to pay the women 20,000 kronor ($3,230) each in damages.
The city had been sued by the Discrimination Ombudsman (DO).
The women, Houda Morabet and Hayal Eroglu, were at the pool accompanying their children but had no intention of swimming themselves.
Both were wearing veils, long pants and long-sleeved tee-shirts because their religion does not allow them to reveal parts of their body in public.
The life guards considered the women's clothing hazardous as it could inhibit their ability to swim if they fell into the pool.
The District Court had ruled in favor of the city, but the Court of Appeal overturned the decision, finding that the women were subject to discrimination when the life guards demanded the women change clothes or leave the swimming pool area.
The city is now asking for a hearing in front of the Supreme Court. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#muslim_mum_discrimination
[KORAN:
5:54,
33:1,
33:48 (or 33:47).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: ReligionNewsBlog. ENDS.]
[Feb. 27, 08]
Too much ignorance about Islam.
Too much ignorance about Islam
The West Australian, Letter to The Editor, p 22, Thursday, February 28, 2008
According to the Oxford Dictionary, the meaning of ignorance is lack of knowledge or information.
Certainly there is plenty of it shown in all the recent letters referring to Islam, Muslims and sharia law.
To the ignorant non-Muslims, do not judge Islam by what you see ignorant Muslims doing. Unless you have sufficient knowledge you will never be able to define the difference between what is correct Islamic living and what are the cultural practices that misrepresent Islam.
I want to draw your attention to some major misconceptions that are perhaps perpetuated by ignorant Muslims themselves.
You cannot be forced into Islam; it identifies very clearly that mankind is given the ability of free choice above all the creations of God.
You cannot force a Muslim woman into marriage; she has the right to decline any offer of marriage. To say that women have fewer rights than men is incorrect; they, in fact, have many more rights than men.
The penalty for adultery is the same for both genders; execution is not just for women.
Women who wear the niqab are not oppressed; it is the non-Muslim women who suffer sexist harassment and exploitation who are truly oppressed.
Be honest here: Western men use sex to sell almost anything you can think of from ice-cream to cars, beer to soft drinks. Would they exploit their own daughters and mothers? Islam (God) orders Muslim men to "lower their gaze", no perving at women, no wolf-whistling, no sexist flirtations. There are too many misconceptions to address here.
My challenge to you is to research for yourselves what is Islam, investigate for yourselves these words: Tawheed, Salah, Zakat, Imaan, Taqwa, Tauba and Dunya. There is a lot you need to know before you come anywhere close to having an educated opinion.
And think about this: a $40 million a year social debt related to alcohol; homes lost and families destroyed due to the rise in interest rates; an advertising campaign currently running on TV to stem the spread of STDs because of uncontrolled sex; and smoking is killing how many Australians at what cost? Islam prohibits all of these social cancers – and more. These prohibitions are not to oppress us, but to liberate us from our own self-destruction.
If you take the time to open your hearts and minds and learn for yourself about Islam, you will see that it is about submission and obedience to God and not to the desires of mankind. So don't be ignorant, educate yourselves.
Finally, I leave you with this beautiful verse from the Koran: (Surah 109) Al Kafiroon: "Say unbelievers. I do not worship what you worship. Nor do you worship what I worship. I shall never worship what you worship. Neither will you worship what I worship. For you your belief, but I have my religion."
Hamzah bin Talib, Maylands.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#too_much_ignorance
[1st RECAPITULATION:
Unless you have sufficient knowledge you will never be able to define the difference between what is correct Islamic living and what are the cultural practices that misrepresent Islam. ENDS.]
[1st COMMENT: The rush of impudent requests to change non-Muslim countries into "dhimmi," that is, subjected people, and the threats against authors or Danish cartoonists, and the violence against ordinary family members, makes the above sentence a real "lulu." Ancient Arab superstitions, half-digested Hebrew taboos against pork and eating blood, plus genital mutilation of little girls and boys, all seem, even to the well-informed, to meld comfortably together in Islam.
ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION: You cannot be forced into Islam; … ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Not so. "Islam or the sword" was the rule for centuries. Many are being murdered now by Islamists, relying on the more than 30 Koranic scripture orders to make war and fight until Islam is the only religion, plus the examples of killings of unbelievers and Jews in the Hadith (Hadeeth) or Sunnah traditions. The other proof is the stream of people who LEAVE Islam being put under a fatwa of death, and the actual murder of these people, called "apostates."
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 2:193 (or 2:189):- … Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #193 >
ENDS.]
[3rd RECAPITULATION: You cannot force a Muslim woman into marriage; …
ENDS.]
[3rd COMMENT: Not so. "Good women are obedient." (4:34 (or 4:38)).
And the continuing forced marriages, under threat of murder, are exposed in current books and newsitems. The real proof is the permit given, in a roundabout way, in the Hadith 9, 86:98:.
ENDS.]
[4th RECAPITULATION:
To say that women have fewer rights than men is incorrect; they, in fact, have many more rights than men.
ENDS.]
[4th COMMENT: This is a real "try-on"! No balanced person reading newsitems about rape VICTIMS being sentenced to death in the kangaroo courts, or the recent Saudi case of a forced separation because one of the parties was not of the right status in the tribal traditions, or of wives being murdered (one was stuffed into a suitcase, another finally ran away and died with all-over bruising and some broken ribs, all by supposedly "religious" people), could believe that.
There are at least 15 aya (verses) in the Koran taking away women's rights and dignity, and the Hadith has plenty more.
ENDS.]
[5th RECAPITULATION:
The penalty for adultery is the same for both genders; execution is not just for women.
ENDS.]
[5th COMMENT: Not so. The Islamic courts keep on sentencing VICTIMS of rape and seduction to death, the imams' confused religiosity being unable to distinguish between taking part under threats or promises, and a voluntary breaking of the "purity code."
The horrible stonings, and in some countries hanging, is no way to wipe out the historic stain of extra-marital sex, which Western and other soldiers in the First World War fighting to liberate Arab areas from the Turks found in Muslim societies of North Africa and the Middle East. Belly-dancing was not practised by the Bush Baptists or Quakers in those lands!
Muslim missionaries and enthusiasts ought to open both eyes! And face the reality that SLAVES are fair game sexually, according to the Koran 4:24 (or 4:28), and see 4:25 and about nine other ayas (verses).
ENDS.]
[Feb 28, 08]
Ignorance of war and other bad texts.
Ignorance of war and other bad texts
From an Informed Source, Letter to the Editor of
The West Australian,
sent Thursday, February 28, 2008
Yes, Hamzah bin Talib, there is too much ignorance about Islam (Letters 28/2). Every point in your letter is contradicted in the writings and in history, but let me discuss your claim that "You cannot be forced into Islam."
Bukhari's Hadith reports that Umar said [4, 53:386]: "I would like to consult you regarding these countries which I intend to invade." (
http://www. usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/053. sbt.html# 004.053.386 ) . Was this the planning for the unprovoked invasion and overthrow of the old Persian Empire, and the seizure of huge tracts of Middle Eastern and north African land ruled by the Christian Roman Empire of the East?
Islam is warlike, and the foundation for fighting and killing includes at least 36 texts, including the Koran
8:39 (or 8:40), and let me quote 2:193 (or 2:189): "… Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left." (
http://www. usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/002. qmt.html# 002.193 )
Another, which shows why Islamists can become terrorists, is the Koran 8:12: "… I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
(
http://www.usc. edu/dept/ MSA/quran/ 008.qmt.html# 008.012 )
The degradation of women, including an order to beat them if the husband even suspects they might be disobedient, at Koran
4:34 (or 4:38), makes even the home a place of warfare, and women the long-term victims of the culture.
Nearer to our own times, how many know that the Barbary Coast pirates and slavers were following the Koran teachings favouring slavery, such as
4:92 (or 4:93), and this classic text still being invoked today: 24:33 (or 24:34) "… You shall not force your slave-girls into prostitution in order that you may enrich yourselves, if they wish to preserve their chastity. If anyone compels them, Allah will be forgiving and merciful to them." (
http://www. usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/024. qmt.html# 024.033 ). Isn't that nice! Allah will forgive the enslaved and debauched women! But there is no mention of the slave-trader's evil, and the clients of the woman – they are MEN, so guilt is not mentioned in the text!
What religion was invoked by the Mahdi of Khartoum, whom General Gordon fought against? Whose bullets killed the Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics? Whose explosives went under the World Trade Centre years ago? What scriptures were quoted after the aircraft smashed into the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon on 9/11? What religion's courts are still sentencing the VICTIMS of rape to death, saying they are fornicators or adulterers? It isn't the Calathumpian religion!
Islam does not mean peace. It means submission to human beings, who tell their followers they are submitting to the invisible Allah, although in reality they are submitting to the visible men who lead them, quoting religious writings so bad that this week we read that the Turkish Muslim scholars want to rewrite the Hadith. I'd like to see that!
And in answer to
109:6 saying "For you your belief, but I have my religion," let me quote Koran
3:83 (or 3:77): "Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?"
(
http://www. usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/003. qmt.html# 003.083 )
Letters to the Editor, WA Newspapers, GPO Box N1027 Perth WA 6843. Fax 08 9482 3830. E-mail to: letters@wa news.com.au
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#ignorance_of_war
[ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Muslim medics in hospitals in at least three major English cities have refused to follow the regulations to wash their forearms, aimed at helping tackle superbugs, because of their faith. They say that rolling up their sleeves is against Islam!
A prayer room for Muslims has been installed in at least one of the Queen's palaces. As Channel 4's "Dispatches" secret camera showed on January 15, 2007, imams in some mosques want to "dismantle" the rule of Queen and House of Commons. Prayer rooms are being added in Australian universities, allegedly on the grounds of being non-discriminatory -- but only Muslims may enter them! The woolliness of modern Westerners invites disdain from any determined group!
You've guessed it -- the scriptures order that attidude. Read
3:73 (or 3:66):- And believe no one unless he follows your Religion. Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah". < www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/003. qmt.html# 003.073 >
33:1:- O Prophet, fear thou Allah and obey not the unbelievers and the hypocrites; – Truly Allah is Knowing, Wise.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/033. qmt.html #033.001 >
33:48 (or 33:47):- And obey not (the behests) of the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and heed not their annoyances, but put thy Trust in Allah. For enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Prayer is FIVE TIMES a day, and in Muslim-dominated areas all the shops have to be shuttered and everyone has to go to the mosque or prayer hall. The time thus spent during the working day helps to explain why Winston S. Churchill wrote about the indolence exhibited in Muslim societies. Many Western employers, who have had to put up with "smoking breaks" by Westerners for years, will either break the odd anti-discrimination laws, or will have the work day in industries like retailing and factory work become almost a farce.
The Call to Prayer, which in some Western countries has been requested for three times a day, is broadcast loudly by modern Western-invented loudspeakers. Once the principle is recognised by courts or through submission, the next move will be for five times a day, with loud sermons added.
Most Westerners are ignorant of the fact that normal detective work will become very difficult if enough Muslims can affect elections (or threaten mob violence, as in Denmark, France, Syria, Pakistan and other countries recently). For example, if a Muslim dies, the religion demands that they be buried within hours, or next day. In Western societies, police and the coroners often require that a postmortem examination be done on the body, to check if the deceased has been murdered. A side-effect is that even if no murder has occurred, medical science is advanced and sometimes families are given facts that would be otherwise unknown. (It is a sad fact that, after some advances by enlightened Muslim societies centuries ago, nearly all later advances in medicine and science have come from non-Muslim societies.)
Sikhs: In Australia, a different faith, the Sikh, is demanding the right for a boy go to a Christian school wearing a turban and letting his hair grow indefinitely, although the school has a policy requiring the wearing of a uniform and cutting of hair. Australian states and territories all have State Schools, to which admission is either free or for a nominal amount, so there was no normal civic reason for the parents to try to enroll the boy at a Christian school. A guess is that the reason was for the chance of winning a case, and compensation, in the anti-discrimination pseudo-tribunals which have been springing up in the past few decades. Misguided Sikh leaders might imagine this will assist them in converting Australia!
Given the abysmal ignorance of the "Establishment," even in educational institutions, one presumes that the Christian school council and teaching staff had no idea that the Sikh boy might demand the right to follow his religion even more closely, and wear a dagger, soldier's shorts, and a metal bangle. Perhaps the Christians could look for Bible quotes that recommend gaining more knowledge? Or they could decline any more government grants, to free themselves for the demeaning and increasing secularisation rules emanating from State and Federal education funding authorities.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 28, 08]
Thanks for the lesson
Thanks for the lesson
The West Australian,
Various Letters to The Editor, p 17, Friday, February 29, 2008
Thanks for the lesson
I read with interest the letter from Hamzah bin Talib (Too much ignorance about Islam, 28/2),
All I can say is thank you, Mr Talib, for educating us. Now we have been informed that Islam is about "submission and obedience" to God, I am eternally grateful that I live in Australia where we have "freedom". So on Saturday when I tuck into bacon and eggs for breakfast, walk down the street seeing women and girls walking by themselves and then I enjoy a beer at a social event later in the day (and not driving afterwards) I am comfortable that in Australia I am not breaking the law.
Sure, we have problems here in relation to alcohol, smoking, sex and other social issues, but at least in Australia we have the freedom to be able to make our own mistakes in life (and hopefully learn from them) rather than be dictated to by barbaric and sexist laws created from the imagination of some guy in the early 7th century who claimed that an angel dictated the Koran to him over a 10-year period. The only story that is about as far-fetched is the one about some guy who was born from a virgin, was eventually crucified and then he was resurrected a couple of days later.
The world has progressed beyond believing these fairy stories, Mr Talib, but amazingly Islam has more than a billion followers and still a big percentage of the population gullibly follows these rules and laws. The Koran, the New Testament and all other religious books were written by men who cannot substantiate these writings with any proof.
God did not come down from the heavens with a typewriter or pen and paper. I will continue to follow the laws of my country and live my life in freedom, treating people how I would expect to be treated myself. Mr Talib, you can please yourself, but please adhere to the laws of the country you live in. May sharia law never be a consideration here.
I note that you quoted Surah
109 to the readers of
The West Australian, rather than Surah
108. How convenient (I have read the Koran).
Was he joking?
Hamzah bin Talib would have expected to receive some feedback following his letter about Westerners' ignorance of Muslims. One believes that it is the desire of Islam to see the whole Earth filled with Islamists. To say any different would be false. That Muslim devotees, especially in developing countries, use arms to "persuade" people to change their beliefs is part of developing history. Ask the victims' families of the Bali bombers what they think, especially faced with the smiling faces of the bombers who say we deserved it.
One knows of the disparity between punishment for men and women for alleged sexual misconduct. What about education for women and driving licences? Should one go on?
The greatest "joke" in Mr Talib's letter is the part about smoking causing problems, given that the majority of heroin is grown by and sent into the world by Muslims.
Mr Talib is able, without risk, to write and then have published his views because of the democracy he enjoys. Would Christians in Islamic coimtries be given such liberties? I think not.
Your choice
I wholeheartedly agree with Hamzah bin Talib's comments. It is also true that a Muslim could face death should he wish to convert to Christianity, as such was the case in Afghanistan which was widely reported not only in this paper but throughout the world. Free choice does not seem to work both ways.
As for women having more rights than men, please consider that in Islam a man can divorce his wife for any reason by simply saying three times "I divorce you", but the woman cannot initiate a divorce, nor can she marry four husbands. The man has the right to four wives.
Men are regarded as
superior to women. The hadiths also make it clear that men can beat their wives for complaining. Also, because of their inferior position, no woman is allowed to be a judge, an imam, a guardian or head of state. The wearing of the veil is a symbol of servitude which keeps women in a state of second-class citizenship.
As for sexist advertising, this does normally result in the exploitation of mothers and daughters. However, wolf-whistling and sexist flirtations are considered to be minor when we remember the Sydney youths who savagely gang-raped the infidel girls.
We live in a free democratic society, which may be the reason so many are leaving Islamic regimes to seek refuge in this country. This is your choice – and that is the truth.
ubmit/subchron7.htm#thanks_for_the
[RECAPITULATION: The greatest "joke" in Mr Talib's letter is the part about smoking causing problems, given that the majority of heroin is grown by and sent into the world by Muslims.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Good point! But the bulk of the heroin is bought and used by "Westerners." Ouch!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Feb 28, 08]
Two terror suspects to remain in custody.
Two terror suspects to remain in custody
The Local (Sweden's News in English),
www.thelocal. se/10190/ 20080229/ , 08 17:01 CET, Feb 29, 2008
SWEDEN –
Two men, 37 and 42, are to be detained in custody following their arrest on Thursday on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism, a court in Stockholm ruled on Friday.
Detention orders requested for two terror suspects (29 Feb 08)
Terror suspects arrested in Sweden (28 Feb 08)
Both men are accused of passing money on to groups in Somalia with the intention of financing terrorist crimes.
Official charges against the men will be presented by March 13th.
There were insufficient grounds to seek a formal detention order for the third man arrested in Thursday's coordinated police operation, although suspicions about his involvement in the case remain, according to a statement from the prosecutor's office.
The 37-year-old's lawyer, Mats Ljungquist, said he would appeal the decision to keep his client in custody.
"My client has absolutely no knowledge of the crimes of which he is accused," he said.
Swedish Security Service Spo suspect all three men of having links to the Al-Shabaab organization in Somalia.
Al-Shabaab, which translates roughly as 'Youth', is an extreme breakaway faction of the Islamic courts in Somalia.
The group claimed responsibility for a bombing in early February in the coastal town of Bosasso in Somalia Puntland region. According to officials, 20 Ethiopian migrants and guest workers died in the attack, which also injured around 100 people. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#two_terror_suspects
[KORAN: 22:19 (or 22:20)
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Feb 29, 08]
Non-Muslims under Islam.
Non-Muslims under Islam
Barnabas Aid magazine,
www. barnabas fund.org , 4-page Pull-out Supplement, March-April 2008
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This series of pull-out supplements is intended to provide background information for Christians seeking to understand the nature of Islam and its contemporary expression. One aspect of this relates to understanding the reason for the oppression and persecution of Christians in various Islamic parts of the world, and another to the growing challenge which Islam poses to Western society, culture and Church.
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It is often said nowadays that Islam has always been a peaceful and tolerant religion in which non-Muslim minorities flourished undisturbed, with Jews and Christians respectfully treated as equals by the Muslim majority. The well-known scholar of Islam, Bernard Lewis, criticises this myth as a recent invention which has no base in history:
It is only very recently that some defenders of Islam have begun to assert that their society in the past accorded equal status to non-Muslims. No such claim is made by spokesmen for resurgent Islam, and historically there is no doubt that they are right. Traditional Islamic societies neither accorded such equality nor pretended that they were so doing. Indeed, in the old order, this would have been regarded not as a merit but as a dereliction of duty. How could one accord the same treatment to those who follow the true faith and those who wilfully reject it? This would be a theological as well as a logical absurdity. 1
This article looks at how Islam treats non-Muslims of various kinds, both in history and in theology. Muhammad set the tone shortly before his death by stating his intention of cleansing the Arabian peninsula of all non-Muslims.
It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattab that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. (Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4366).
The traditional Islamic view is that God has made Muslims superior to all other people. According to the Qur'an, Muslims are "the best of peoples" Q 3:110 [or 3:106]. 2 All relationships with non-Muslims have to serve the principle of honouring and strengthening Islam and Muslims. Muslims must be dominant and non-Muslims subordinate. In an Islamic state, only Muslims have full citizenship rights.
Even today, many Muslims accept it as natural and normal for non-Muslims to be despised and discriminated against. They feel that it is quite proper for non-Muslims to be restricted in the public expression of their faiths and quite improper for a Muslim to submit to a non-Muslim in marriage, at work or in the political sphere.
Muslim attitudes to non-Muslims are based on the Qur'an, on Muhammad's example, on the example of the early Islamic state under the four "rightly-guided caliphs", and on Islamic law (shari'a) as it developed in the classical age.
Muhammad and non-Muslims
Pagans
Muhammad totally rejected the polytheistic pagan idolatry of pre-Islamic Arabia. During his early years in Mecca he patiently suffered persecution at the hand of the Arab pagans without retaliation. However, once he had moved to Medina and gained political power there, he demanded that all Arab pagans submit and convert to Islam or else be killed. The final development in Muhammad's attitude to pagans is given in the Qur'ans so-called "sword verse":
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war). (Q 9:5)
Jews and Christians
Muhammad saw the monotheistic faiths, Islam and Christianity, as a different category from paganism. At first he even recognised their validity, but in Medina he gradually turned against his Jewish allies who persistently refused to accept his claim to be a prophet and would not practise the new religious customs he introduced. This friction with Jews, and later with various Christian communities, hardened his position as to the absolute superiority of Islam.
Muhammad fought the Jewish tribes, massacred many of their men, enslaving their women and children, and expelled others from their lands near Medina to areas further north. The gradual hardening of Muhammad's attitude can be seen in the Qur'an where the later chapters, dating from his time in Medina, are much harsher towards pagans, Jews and Christians than the chapters dating from his early years in Mecca.
According to the Qur'an, Christians are blasphemers because they say that Christ is God and believe in the Trinity:
They do blaspheme who say: "God is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "0 children of Israel! worship God my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with God - God will forbid him the Garden and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy) verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. (Q 5:75-76)
[
5:72-73]
According to the Qur'an Jews are under God's wrath and curse for rejecting the message of the prophets and of Jesus:
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1 Bernard Lewis, The Jews of Islam (Princeton University Press, 1987) p.4.
2 Quotations from the Qur'an are taken from A. Yusuf Ali, The Holy Quran: Text, Translation and Commentary (The Islamic Foundation, 1975.)
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Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in Excesses. Nor did they (usually) forbid one another the iniquities which they committed: evil indeed were the deeds which they did. Thou seest many of them turning in friendship to the Unbelievers. Evil indeed are (the works) which their souls have sent forward before them (with the result) that God's wrath is on them and in torment will they abide. (Q 5:81-83)
[or
5:78-80, or 5:82-83]
Therefore Christians and Jews are joint targets of hostility:
0 ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust. (Q 5:54) [or
5:51 or 5:56]
They must be fought until they humbly submit to the rule of Islam:
Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His apostle, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth (even if they are) of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued. (Q 9:29)
Shari'a and non-Muslims
The shari'a (Islamic law) was compiled at a time of Muslim dominance during the days of the Abbasid Empire. It is therefore based on the assumption that political power is in the hands of Muslims, and it contains many detailed rules about non-Muslims, rules which set boundaries between them and the Muslims, and ensure the latter's superiority. Discrimination on grounds of religion is therefore fundamental to shari'a.
According to shari'a, all non-Muslims are basically defined as kafirun or kuffar (singular kafir, with various alternative spellings), meaning unbelievers or infidels. This is a term of contempt and abhorrence.
Dr Taj
Hargey, Chairman of the Muslim Education Centre Oxford (MECO), stated last year:
The word kafftr is a very pejorative, negative, disparaging
term. When you call someone a kaffir, they are not worthy
to be associated with. 3
Within the larger category of the kafirun are several subdivisions:
1. The pagan idolatrous polytheists (mushrikun), who worship other than the one true God. These are to be fought and killed unless they convert to Islam.
2. The People of the Book (Ahl al-Kitab), so-called because they had received a written revelation from the one God. This category comprises Jews, Christians, Sabeans (followers of John the Baptist) and sometimes Zoroastrians. However they are charged with having misunderstood the original revelation, added to it, changed it and corrupted it, and with having deified human beings, associating them with God. They were allowed to keep their faith and their life provided they submitted to Muslim rule under various humiliating conditions. Their status was defined as Ahl al-Dhimma (people of the pact).
3. Muslim apostates or renegades (murtaddun). These may be outright converts from Islam to another faith, or blasphemers, heretics (mulhidun) and denier's of the main doctrines of Islam. This category includes Muslim individuals and sects who have deviated from orthodox Islam.
Jihad and non-Muslims
According to classical Islamic doctrine, jihad is the God-given method for dealing with non-Muslims and for the expansion of Islam's political dominion into non-Muslim territory. Pagans who did not convert to Islam were killed. Jews and Christians, on the other hand, were allowed to keep their faith and live, but only if they submitted to Islamic domination. After a Muslim conquest, any sign of discontent amongst the subjugated Jews and Christians was considered to revoke the pact of submission/protection and require further jihad against them. 4
It is clear from documents of the time that early jihad campaigns brought misery to the conquered non-Muslims. Muslim writers often claim that the Islamic conquests brought liberation to oppressed people and tolerance to all religious communities. But the accounts of Christians, Jews and others who were on the receiving end are very different, and even Muslim historians recorded large-scale brutality. Jihad was all too frequently accompanied by destruction of cities, the killing of captured soldiers, the massacre of civilians, looting, widespread slavery, forced conversions to Islam, the seizing of non-Muslim lands and heavy taxation. 5
Status of pagans
Relations between Muhammad and his pagan relatives and neighbours were tense from the beginning. shari'a forbade any social interaction such as sharing of food or intermarriage between Muslims and pagans. Pagans were to be fought by jihad until they submitted and converted to Islam, or were killed or enslaved. In historical reality, all the Arabian tribes were forced to become Muslims by the first caliphs. In later conquered areas such as India, where polytheists were very numerous, many were initially slaughtered, but the sheer number of polytheists in the conquered territories made the command to kill them impractical in reality, Later some Muslim scholars gave Hinduism the same status as Judaism and Christianity, but other scholars disputed this.
Status of Jews and Christians
Jews and Christians were defined in shari'a as dhimmis, that is, subjugated second-class people given protection by the Muslim state. Protection meant that they were allowed to keep their non-Muslim faith yet not be killed (unlike pagans). However, this arrangement - protection in return for submission - held only as long the dhimmis did not carry weapons, knew their lowly place in society, treated Muslims with respect, and paid a demeaning poll tax called jiyza. Numerous petty laws restricted and humiliated Jews and Christians in their daily lives. They were only allowed to worship within their synagogues and churches, not in public space. Church bells were not allowed to be rung. New church buildings were not allowed, nor could existing churches be repaired. Dhimmis could not testify in a shari'a court against a Muslim. Finally, dhimmis were not
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3 "Undercover Mosque", transcript, Dispatches, TV Channel 4, broadcast 15 January 2007, http://www.islamicpluralism.org/news/2007n/undercovermosquesscript.pdf , viewed 7 January 2008.
4 Patrick Sookhdeo, Global Jihad: The Future in the Face of Militant Islam (Isaac Publishing, 2007), especially chapters 4 and 5.
5 Patrick Sookhdeo,
Global Jihad: The Future in the Face of Militant Islam (Isaac Publishing, 2007), p. 244-268.
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[Picture] Egypt. In accordance with shari'a, the minaret of the mosque is higher than the towers of the nearby church. Islam teaches that non-Muslim faiths and their followers must always be seen to be of lesser status than Islam and Muslims
to be given any public office that placed them in a position of authority over Muslims. At best, they could serve their Muslim rulers in administrative capacities, and any signs of "arrogance" were harshly punished. It is narrated that the Caliph Umar refused to employ Christians in positions of power, saying:
I will not honour them when God has degraded them; I will not glorify them whenGod has humiliated them; I will not bring them near when God has set them far. 6
The ancient Christian communities that have survived under Muslim rule, such as the Copts in Egypt or the Assyrians in Iraq, see their history as a long series of persecutions, massacres, forced conversions, and destroyed churches. They feel themselves to be a subjugated people precariously surviving among a dominant and hostile Muslim majority. Martyrdom and suffering have a high symbolic meaning as they perceive themselves facing a constant threat to their very existence.
During the colonial period, the practice of shari'a was partly dismantled in several Muslim states, being replaced to some extent by Western codes of law. The rise of secular and socialist forms of nationalism at the end of the colonial period brought a temporary reprieve from traditional Muslim hostility to non-Muslims. There were great hopes of creating new national identities across religious and ethnic divides.
However, since independence in the mid-twentieth century, many Muslim states have reintroduced shari'a as a main source of their legal systems, and many modern Islamist movements are demanding a greater use of shari'a.
Furthermore, whether or not shari'a is officially implemented, the long history of its application still influences attitudes of Muslim communities around the globe. The result is that Christians (and Jews when they were present) in Muslim countries are commonly despised and discriminated against by officialdom and by society at large. They find it hard to get jobs, are not treated as equals in the law-courts, and are often harassed by the security services.
The current growth of Islamism is fuelling an increasing hostility to non-Muslims. Indigenous Christians are often assumed to be Western collaborators and spies in the . heart of Islam. These attitudes are eroding the hard-won freedoms inherited from the colonial and independence era. Discrimination, persecution and attacks against Christians are on the increase in many Muslim states.
Status of apostates from Islam
According to Islamic theology, apostasy is one of the few sins God cannot forgive. All schools of shari'a agree that adult male apostates from Islam should be killed, and various other punishments are specified as well. The punishment for women apostates varies, but in some schools of law it is also a death sentence. Even where the death sentence is not carried out, apostates face severe penalties such as exile, disinheritance, loss of possessions, threats, beatings, torture, and prison, and the marriages of apostates may be automatically dissolved.
The Qur'an does not have any unambiguous commands to kill apostates, but hadith traditions claim that Muhammad said, "Whoever changed his [Islamic] religion, then kill him" (Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57). Other hadiths record how apostates were killed on Muhammad's orders. Hence the death penalty for apostates in shari'a.
Soon after Muhammad's death in 632 various groups of Arabs rebelled against their Islamic rulers. They were all branded apostates by the first caliph, Abu Bakr (632-634). The fighting that followed was known as the Wars of Apostasy, and a number of Arabs were burned to death by the renowned general Khalid ibn al-Walid for refusing to return to Islam. Abu Bakr insisted on dealing ruthlessly with the rebel apostates, following the example of Muhammad, despite the hesitation of many others in Medina.
In shari'a apostasy (irtidad) has always been linked to unbelief, blasphemy and heresy, terms which are sometimes used interchangeably. All are regarded as serious crimes, and they are often combined in prosecutions in spite of the different categories of shari'a criminal law they fall under. 7
Muslims who accept teachings considered heretical by orthodox Islam are held by shari'a to have reverted to paganism and therefore to deserve the death penalty.
While apostate (murtadd) usually refers to a Muslim who has converted to another faith, others who consider themselves to be Muslims can be accused of unbelief, blasphemy and heresy as well as of apostasy for various other causes, including scepticism, atheism, and not fully implementing shari'a. The process of denouncing someone else as an apostate is called takfir, the significance being that the "apostate" is then considered liable to the death sentence. Many liberal or secularist Muslims have found
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6 Ibn Qutayba, Uyun al-Akhbar, Vol. 1 (Cairo, 1962), p. 43. (Isaac Publishing, 2002), pp. 243, 297-302.
7 Patrick Sookhdeo, A People Betrayed: The Impact of Islamization on the Christian Community in Pakistan (Isaac Publishing, 2002), pp. 243, 297-302.
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themselves classified as apostates for views which the religious establishment or militant Islamist groups hold to be heretical. Some have been assassinated and others have been convicted by the courts of apostasy and had to flee to the West for safety. 8
Muslim "heretical" sects are severely persecuted. This is especially true of the Ahmadiyyas in Pakistan and of the Bahais in Iran.
For most Muslims, apostasy still carries strongly negative connotations of betrayal of one's community and rejection of one's heritage. This attitude explains why so few Muslim voices are ever raised in defence of people accused of apostasy.
Apostates bring terrible shame on their families. Converts to Christianity are normally rejected by their families and in danger of being killed by individuals and persecuted by Muslim states. Even in Britain, the growing numbers of British Muslims who convert to Christianity face severe persecution. They are not just shunned by their family and community, but experience harassment, violent attacks, kidnappings and outright attempts at murder.
Forced conversions 9
Sharia permits the forced conversion to Islam of pagans, prisoners of war, female slaves, captured and abandoned children, and apostates. Historical Islamic practice often went far beyond these boundaries. By defining various population groups as pagans, permission was given for their forcible conversion.
In the early centuries of Islam, Christian Arab tribes sometimes faced efforts at forced conversion. For example, Umair ibn-Sa'd, governor of Homs under Caliph Umar (634-644), was in the habit of forcing Christian Arab tribes to convert to Islam. The Banu Taghlib Christian tribes of north-west Syria surprised him with their firm refusal to embrace Islam.
Bar Hebraeus (1226-1286), a scholarly bishop, reported that under the Abbasid Caliph al-Mahdi, 5,000 Christian Arabs of the Tannukh tribe were forcibly converted to Islam.
When the Almohad Muslims conquered the province of Ifriqiyya (modern Tunisia) they offered Jews and Christians the choice between conversion to Islam or death. Similar policies were followed in other areas in North Africa and Spain that came under Almohad control. Many thousands who refused to convert were slaughtered.
In the various Muslim conquests in India, many forced conversions of Hindus are mentioned, for example, during Mahmud of Ghazni's campaign (1013-1014), under Jalal-ud-Din of Bengal (1414-1430), in the early years of the Mughal Emperor Akbar (1556-1605), under Shah Jehan, (1626-1658) and under Emperor Aurangzeb (1658-1707).
From time to time the Ottomans tried forced [? to force] conquered populations to convert to Islam. For example, Sultan Selim I (1512-1520) organised a number of conversion campaigns, including converting the Bulgarians. In the next century forced conversion among the inhabitants of the Rodope and Pirin mountains from 1666 to 1670 created a new population group named the Pomaks (Christian Bulgarian Slavs converted to Islam).
There were repeated forcible conversions of Jews to Islam in Persia. The first was under Shah Abbas II, who in 1656 ordered all Jews in his kingdom to become Muslims. The newly converted Jews where known as jadid al-Islam (literally, the new of Islam). Forced conversions occurred as late as 1839 in the city of Mashad.
At the turn of the eighteenth century Shah Sultan Hossein (1694-1722) issued a decree that all Zoroastrians should convert to Islam or face the consequences. Many were slaughtered and the others converted to Islam.
Forced conversions to Islam have recently taken place in Sudan during the civil war which ended in 2005, and in Indonesia during the 1998-2002
jihadi attacks on Christians in the Malukus and in Central Sulawesi.
Conclusion
The positive attitude of Muhammad early in his career to Jews and Christians had no lasting effect in Islam, because it was over-ridden by his later hostile attitude. The shari'a, based on the later dated verses in the Qur'an and on the hadith traditions describing what Muhammad said and did, enshrined an attitude of hostility and contempt towards non-Muslims. Centuries of applying shari'a has created a general Muslim attitude of contempt for non-Muslims so that even in modern secular Muslim states which have constitutionally guaranteed equal rights to all citizens, non-Muslims are discriminated against in numerous ways. With the contemporary rise of Islamism and militant Islam, non-Muslim minorities in Muslim countries face increasing pressure, harassment and
restrictions.
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8 "The Application of the Apostasy Law in the World Today", Barnabas Fund, http://www. barnabasfund. org/News/ archives/ article.php? ID_news_ items=294
9 Patrick Sookhdeo, Global Jihad: The Future in the Face of Militant Islam (Isaac Publishing, 2007), pp.240-244.
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http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#non_muslims_under
[RECAPITULATION:
Sharia permits the forced conversion to Islam of pagans, prisoners of war, female slaves, captured and abandoned children, and apostates. […]
When the Almohad Muslims conquered the province of Ifriqiyya (modern Tunisia) they offered Jews and Christians the choice between conversion to Islam or death. Similar policies were followed in other areas in North Africa and Spain that came under Almohad control. Many thousands who refused to convert were slaughtered. RECAP. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: So, they don't believe in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights about freedom of religion, the Geneva Convensions on the rights of POWs, or the conventions against slavery, or the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Well, that should make dialogue with Islamists short and explosive!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[DEFINITION: Qur'an in many books and papers is printed "Koran;" note that in the text above "Q" is used as an abbreviation. ENDS.]
[March-April 2008]
Gunmen grab bishop.
[Abp Rahhu, Abp Casmoussa, Ganni + 3, Ahad + 5, Hanna, Affas, Ishoa, al-Bazi, Syrop]
Gunmen grab bishop
The Sunday Times (Perth, W. Australia),
p 40, Sunday, March 2, 2008
BAGHDAD: A Chaldean Catholic archbishop was kidnapped by gunmen in Iraq's restive northern city of Mosul after a shootout killed his three companions.
Faraj-Farraj Rahhu, the archbishop of Mosul, was seized after two bodyguards and his driver were killed, said Brigadier General Khalid Abd al-Sattar.
Pope Benedict XVI [Ratzinger] condemned the kidnapping as an "atrocious act which touches the whole of the church" in Iraq, and expressed his "bitterness," a statement from the Vatican said, calling it a premeditated attack.
The Pope also expressed solidarity with the head of the Chaldean Catholic Church in Iraq, Patriarch Emmanuel III Delly, and all the Christian community as well as the families of the victims.
Archbishop Rahhu, seized while on his way home after a religious ceremony, is the latest Christian cleric to be abducted in Iraq since the US-led invasion in March 2003.
The Syrian-Catholic Archbishop of Mosul, Monsignor Basil Georges Casmoussa, was kidnapped in January 2005 and held for a day before being released. Early last June, Chaldean priest Ragheed Ganni, 31, and three assistants were shot dead outside Mosul's Holy Spirit Church. At the time, the Pope sent a telegram to Archbishop Rahhu to convey his condolences and express sadness over the "senseless killings", the Vatican said.
Three days later another Chaldean priest, Hani Abdel Ahad, and five parishioners were kidnapped in Baghdad.
The previous month, Chaldean priest Nawzat Hanna was kidnapped in the capital, but released two days later.
In October, Iraqi Roman Catholic priests Pius Affas and Mazen Ishoa, from Mosul, were released alive and well after more than a week in captivity.
In November 2006, Chaldean priest Douglas al-Bazi went missing in Baghdad. Three months earlier another member of the Chaldean church, Father Saad Syrop, was abducted in Baghdad. Their fate is unknown.
The Chaldeans are the largest group of Christians in Iraq. They were said to number as many as 800,000 before the coalition invasion nearly flve years ago.
Associated with Crusades' invaders, they are victims of sectarian cleansing, killings and kidnappings by Sunni and Shiite Islamists, as well as criminal gangs. Their churches have been bombed and homes confiscated. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#gunmen_grab_bishop
[COMMENT: Note that right from the start of the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, the Coalition of the Killing told the Christians (whose ancestors have been there for millenia) that the occupation forces would not protect them. So much for "Christian" BLUSH, later "Catholic" BLIAR, and
HOWODD. "Crusaders," my foot!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN/QURAN:
5:73 (or 5:77):- They surely are Infidels who say Allah is one of three. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html #73 >
9:31-32:-
31. They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords beside Allah. And (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
32. Fain would they extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
47:4 (or 47:4-5):- Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks and of the rest make fast the fetters. And afterwards let there either be free dismissals or ransomings, till the war has laid down its burdens. …
47:35 (or 47:37):- Be not fainthearted then; and invite not the infidels to peace when ye have the upper hand …
66:9:- O Prophet! make war on the infidels and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[FOLLOW-UP COMMENT: With the Christians being written down as enemies and infidels in such texts in the Koran, which is really a Book of Strategy and Tactics, why do Popes, Archbishops of Canterbury, Moderators of other Churches, and many other Christian leaders keep taking part in "dialogue," and answering the "invitations" of various Muslim scholars, or like the Archbishop of Canterbury's recent inane statement, agree to submit to partial sharia law?
In October 2007 some Muslim scholars put out "A Common Word Between Us and You" for discussion by non-Muslims, but underlying it was a steady insistence that God is One, tied in with a claim that the Unity of God is what unites the various monotheistic faiths. If Muslims take power in the West, will the dozens of "Trinity Churches" be among the first to fall to mob fury? Note that the 80 Muslim scholars in Turkey (wanting to rewrite the Hadith!) have not handed back the Church of Holy Wisdom (Hagia Sofia) to the Orthodox Church in Instanbul (formerly Constantinople).
The monasteries and churches of Muslim-majority Kosovo are being destroyed, even under "protective occupation" by NATO and/or a United Nations mission. It was anti-Christian persecution that started the Kosovo Serbs asking Milosevic for help, which launched him on his fightback campaign which became murder and ethnic cleansing, and ended in the NATO bombings and outside intervention.
Read 47:35 (or 47:37) above again.
ENDS.]
[HADITH:
4, 53:386:-
…
Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans. When Al-Hurmuzan embraced Islam, Umar said to him. "I would like to consult you regarding these countries which I intend to invade." […]
Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute); and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:… "Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master." […]
9, 84:57:- … Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.
HADITH TRADITION ENDS.]
[RANSOMING, is that religiously right? Read 47:4 (or 47:5). If you think extorting ransom is like stealing, read 33:26-27.
ENDS.]
[Mar 2, 08]
Finding common ground between Muslims and Christians.
Finding common ground between Muslims and Christians
On Line Opinion (Australia's free Internet journal of social and political debate),
www.online opinion.com. au/view. asp? article= 7067&page=0 ,
by David Palmer, posted Monday, March 3, 2008
AUSTRALIA –
In response to Pope Benedict XVI's [Ratzinger] well publicised 2006 Regensburg address in which some mildly critical observations were offered in relation to Islam, 138 Muslim religious and political leaders at the end of Ramadan last year sent out a remarkable open letter, entitled A Common Word between Us and You. The letter was addressed to the Pope, 20 Orthodox Patriarchs and Leaders of all the main Protestant groupings. According to those knowledgeable, while some of the signatories are known for their moderation and peaceful intentions, others are Wahhabists, Deobandists and members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
The following month, a rather enthusiastic response from 300, mainly Protestant, leaders both liberal and evangelical, took the form of a full page advertisement in The New York Times entitled "Loving God and Neighbour Together".
A Common Word begins by stating that since Muslims and Christians account for more than half the world's population, "the future of the world depends on peace between Muslims and Christians". The letter then draws attention to what is said to be held in common between Christians and Muslims - the Unity of God and the necessity of love for Him and neighbour, all of which is supported by quotations drawn from the Koran and the Bible. These three matters are said to serve as the basis for their invitation to Christians "to come together with us on the basis of what is common to us".
From the responses to date it is clear that, during the course of 2008 and beyond, there will be discussions between groups of Muslims and Christians. Thus the Vatican's response has been to invite representatives of the 138 Muslim scholars to a meeting with the Pope but is otherwise subdued, noting as a fact that differences between Christians and Muslims cannot be "ignored or downplayed".
This caution on the part of the Vatican is appropriate for it is quite clear that the Muslim's explication of the Unity of God and the Koranic texts selected to illustrate the doctrine can be read as a classic example of Islamic mission (Da'wa) - in this case addressed to the topmost echelons of the world wide Church of Jesus Christ!
In other words, the letter from the 138 Muslim scholars and leaders is an invitation to the Church's leaders to become Muslims, and will be read as such by knowledgeable Muslims generally. No one should be in any doubt on this point, least of all those proposing to meet with these scholars. The lack of response of the Orthodox Patriarchs to A Common Word, because of the long and bitter experience of the Eastern Church living under militant Islam, rather underscores this understanding of the Muslims' letter.
However, it is still good that Christian leaders should, with open eyes, accept the letter at face value, as a genuine call to dialogue with a view at the very least to reducing tensions between Christians and Muslims. This certainly is owed to those moderate Muslims who have signed A Common Word, and who are unlikely to press the call for submission.
In the second place, Christian leaders for their part, out of loyalty to Christ and His Church must make clear their own adherence to the far richer revelation of the triune God given through Scripture and in the person of our Lord Jesus Christ. To do otherwise would be a betrayal.
Then too, importantly, there will be opportunity to press issues such as the right of both Muslims and Christians anywhere to worship freely and to proselytise, even the right to proselytise persons of each other's faith, the right of non Muslim minorities together with their religious institutions to share fully in an unhindered way, in the life of their respective nations as well as the right of persons to change their religion without fear of interference, persecution, or death at the hands of the State or other persons, including family members.
This is an issue of reciprocity since Muslims living in the West already enjoy these rights.
But how easy will such discussions be?
Quite apart from the issue of getting some uniformity of agreement from internally disparate groupings of Muslims and Christians, itself a major issue, the difficulties at the Muslim Christian divide are considerable.
In the first place agreeing on what the unity of God means is impossible and should not be even attempted, even for those Christians who might wish to affirm that Muslims and Christians worship the same God.
The second difficulty concerns the Islamic understanding of terms used in A Common Word, terms which would be understood quite differently by Christians. For example, the meaning of "freedom of religion" for a Muslim means freedom to practice Islam alone. As previously noted, the term "unity of God" constitutes a rejection of the Christian doctrine of the Trinity. Also problematic is the Islamic use of "devotion" as a synonym for "love".
The immutability of the Islamic sacred texts represents a third difficulty. These texts contain many alarming things for Christians and persons of other faiths. The classic example is Sura 9.29 which reads, quoting from the Noble Koran translation of Dr Hilali and Dr Khan, published by Maktaba Dar-us-Salam, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, "Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued". The Noble Koran adds a footnote to the effect that the jizya is a tax levied from the non Muslim people (Jews and Christians), who are under the protection of a Muslim government.
Aside from Islamic teaching, the history of Muslim Christian relations clearly tells us that Islam has never been at peace with Christianity. As Bernard Lewis (in The Crisis of Islam: Holy War and Unholy Terror), renowned authority on Islamic affairs points out, "the presumption is that the duty of jihad will continue, interrupted only by truces, until all the world either adopts the Muslim faith or submits to Muslim rule".
Therefore, getting Muslims to move on issues such as the status of Christians and Jews as second class citizens (dhimmis) in Islamic society and the treatment of apostates (Muslim converts to Christianity) will be extraordinarily difficult.
A fourth difficulty concerns the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya.
Whereas for Christians, lying is considered a sin, the use of taqiyya in Islamic jurisprudence and theology, as a precautionary deception and keeping one's convictions secret from unbelievers, is regarded as a virtue and a religious duty. And "unbelievers" is precisely how Muslims consider the Pope and other Christian leaders.
A major problem, that will frustrate Muslims, concerns the issue of what it is that the Muslims are seeking and this issue is allied to the implied fallacy in A Common Word that Christian leaders can speak for Western nations. This is an understandable confusion for Muslims as Islam is as much a political ideology as a religion in a way that Christianity is not, the Crusades notwithstanding.
This coalescence of religion and political ideology in Islam helps explain why freedom of religion remains so foreign to it. By issuing this challenge to Christianity, Islam in fact challenges itself to recognise the religious neutrality of the state and therefore religious freedom for all its citizens regardless of their particular religious beliefs.
So, what are Muslims seeking?
One answer has already been suggested - the conversion of the Church's leaders, beginning with the Pope. This can be no more than a fond hope, even for the most conservative Muslim.
Arguably, the main objective for the Muslim political leaders signing A Common Word must be to gain the assistance of Church leaders in bringing the war on terror, or in Muslim eyes the war on Islam, to a speedy end. In this they will be disappointed. The disappointment will not be with the words and actions of church leaders, who with few exceptions will willingly comply, but rather with the discovery that the church leaders' voice will count for so little in determining the course of the war on terror.
While it would be foolish in the extreme to expect any significant doctrinal accord between Muslims and Christians, yet on the basis of our common humanity and for the sake of the approximately one in ten Christians facing persecution in the world today, much of it from Muslims, we should by all means possible seek mutual understanding and civility in relationships across the Muslim Christian divide. This, I suggest, would be a profoundly Christian thing to do, even if in effect all that is achieved is a truce for a limited time.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#finding_common_ground
[RECAPITULATION: In other words, the letter from the 138 Muslim scholars and leaders is an invitation to the Church's leaders to become Muslims, and will be read as such by knowledgeable Muslims generally. No one should be in any doubt on this point, least of all those proposing to meet with these scholars. […]
This coalescence of religion and political ideology in Islam helps explain why freedom of religion remains so foreign to it. By issuing this challenge to Christianity, Islam in fact challenges itself to recognise the religious neutrality of the state and therefore religious freedom for all its citizens regardless of their particular religious beliefs.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The first two sentences above are accurate -- but most of the Western Churches are so addled with "political correctness" that only soft-spoken prevaricators will be sent to meet the Muslim scholars.
The next sentence above ought to be inscribed in black on the notebooks or anyone who discusses anything with Muslim political or religious leaders. But the sentence after that seems to fail to recognise the preponderance of "sword" and "conquering" type heavenly commands in the Koran, and the clear teaching of the Hadith and other documents that every good Muslim must fight until no religion is left except Islam.
Muslims are temporarily at peace with their neighbours only when they compromise, or forget, the most savage parts of their scripture (Koran), tradition (Hadith), biographies (Sira), other writings, and sharia law, or as a temporary measure awaiting a more favourable opportunity for Holy War (Jihad). There will be no "religious neutrality" of an Islamic state, any more than there could be of any past Western regime taking the Papal claims of universal empire to their logical conclusion.
Any religion or culture that can regularly execute the VICTIMS of rape is on a par with the Christians of past ages, and some non-Christians even today, who murder unfortunates whom they label as witches or wizards putting evil curses on them. That the sentences against rape victims still get delivered, in spite of the worldwide news media campaigns for some years now, shows just how out of step with humanity are these religious courts.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION:
Aside from Islamic teaching, the history of Muslim Christian relations clearly tells us that Islam has never been at peace with Christianity. ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Correct. What a pity that the major Churches keep pretending that the history of conquest and attempted conquest was not driven by religious zealotry, and forget that outrages such as the sacks of Italian cities, the conquests from Arabia to the French border and eastwards including Central Asia and India and onwards, Janissaries, the seiges of Constantinople and Prague, the Christian galley slaves, the regular murders of all but one of the Turkish Sultan's sons, etc., etc., have NEVER been disavowed. In fact, the Crusaders' attempts to let pilgrims pass wicked Muslim regimes to go the Jerusalem and other Holy Places are dressed up as wars of aggression! ENDS.]
[KORAN:
"Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing." Surah 2:225
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #225 >
" Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful." Surah 5:89
"Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty." Surah 16: 106
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[AUTHOR: David Palmer is the Convener of the Presbyterian Church of Victoria's Church and Nation Committee. In Australia, since many of the Presbyterian Church parishes joined the Uniting Church some years ago, the Presbyterian Church is a minor Church these days. But quality can sometimes make up for lack of quantity!
ENDS.]
[Mar 3, 08]
Understanding Westerners. [Ignorance of Muslim male rule, riots, blowing people up.]
Understanding Westerners
The West Australian,
Various Letters to The Editor, p 22, Monday, March 3, 2008
[Why remain in this den of iniquity?]
Why is it we "ignorant" non-Muslims have to open our hearts and minds to Islam, research and educate ourselves to avoid misconceptions? Has Hamzah bin Talib (Letters, 28/2) ever put himself out to open his heart and mind to our culture, customs and beliefs or merely prejudged us?
Western men are portrayed as sexual perverts who exploit women: women are oppressed because they don't wear the niqab and society is obsessed with booze, smoking and (horrors!) uncontrolled sex. Let alone the rise in interest rates.
What a mob of hopeless sinners we are.
I wonder what this person is doing living in our free society while obviously regarding it as a den of iniquity. This attitude will do little to aid integration, as will covering the female form with veils and robes.
Do us a favour and go to live in a good Muslim country where the men rule and seem to indulge in street riots every time they perceive any insult to Islam, women are kept in their place (usually home) and it's considered heroic to blow other people up.
Many illegal drugs are grown in strict Muslim countries and smuggled to the West. Women might not have to endure wolf-whistling and sexist flirtations (which we are generally capable of handling with tolerance and humour) but rape and domestic violence occur.
Are victims free to access counselling and legal assistance without being persecuted? Would we be free to express our opinions of their society in their newspapers? One thing I agree with is that misconceptions are rife: on both sides of the fence!
[Both genders executed under sharia?]
I was pleased to be brought to my senses and reminded how ignorant I was of the Muslim faith. It was good to be reminded of the sins we Westerners should seek to correct by changing our beliefs to those of Islam.
The fairness of Islam knows no bounds and it was good to be reminded that under sharia law both genders would be executed for committing adultery. Give me a break.
[COMMENT: Some Muslims have fled away from persecuting Muslims in their previous places of residence. All is not sweetness and light, in spite of prosletysing efforts in Australia to convince people otherwise. You see, if a Muslim disagrees with another Muslim, he can be thought of as a "hypocrite," who ranks with "infidels" in being fair game for any atrocity. Read ALL of the relevant ayas (verses), not just the ones favoured while working towards a takeover. Was the letter-writer wrong to say that "it's considered heroic to blow other people up"? Read about the mother telling her child suicide bomber they would meet in Paradise, and the downward slide in Pakistan.
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#understanding_westerners_ignorance
[Mar 3, 08]
US sends more to Pakistan war. [Suicide bomber smashes security meeting of elders; 100 casualties at Friday funeral; Saturday 20 casualties among security personnel; part of province in clerical hands. Mehsud charged over Bhutto.]
US sends more to Pakistan war
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
[World page edited by Alan Kirk], p 24, Monday, March 3, 2008
WASHINGTON – The US is planning to step up its military involvement in Pakistan's violent Afghan border region, where suicide bombers claimed scores of lives at the weekend – and the Americans might be joined by British troops.
The US already has a number of military trainers working with Pakistani security forces fighting al-Qaida insurgents in the region despite Pakistani political sensitivities about foreign troops on its soil.
The New York Times reported yesterday that the US Defence Department had drafted a plan to send about 100 more trainers into the region. They would accompany Pakistani security forces on operations to what the newspaper called "the point of contact".
The paper quoted Defence Department sources as saying there was little likelihood of the number of instructors ballooning into a full-fledged fighting force as had happened during the Vietnam War.
It said Britain was planning to send additional instructors to Pakistan but quoted British defence sources as declining to comment on the plan.
[Picture] Alert: Pakistani paramilitary soldiers man a checkpoint set up after a suicide bombing in the town of Mingora, in Pakistan's Swat Valley.. Picture: Associated Press
More than 450 people have been killed in militant-related violence in north-western Pakistan this year. Yesterday, a suicide bomber blew himself up and killed at least 40 people at a meeting of tribal elders to discuss security measures in the town of Darra Adam Khel, about 40km south of Peshawar.
Alam Khan, a tribesman at the meeting, said a young man walked up to a group of elders and blew himself up. Another tribesman, Ramin Khan, said: "It was a huge explosion and left body parts and blood scattered on the ground."
He suffered wounds to his left leg and face and was among more than 100 people taken to hospital.
It was the third suicide bombing in as many days in north-western Pakistan. On Friday a suicide bomber blew himself up at the funeral of a dead police officer in Mingora town in the Swat Valley, killing more than 40 people and injuring at least 60.
On Saturday, a suicide bombing in nearby Bajur killed one person and wounded 19 others, mostly security personnel.
Friday's bombing was the bloodiest attack in the Swat Valley since militant followers of a pro-Taliban cleric, Maulana Fazlullah, grabbed control of large parts of the scenic corner of Pakistan's restive north-west, an apparent reflection of how the Government of President Pervez Musharraf has lost control of parts of the region.
The suicide bomb campaign intensified after the army stormed the Red Mosque in Islamabad last July to crush a militant student movement.
The escalating violence has raised concern about the stability of the nuclear-armed state as it passes through a period of political transition with doubts over how long Mr Musharraf can hold power after his allies lost a parliamentary election on February 18.
The new training program, along with intensified missile strikes in Pakistan against suspected militants, is another sign of the US Government's growing concern and frustration with Pakistan's failure to do more about al-Qaida's movements in the tribal areas.
The New York Times said the new team of US specialists would help train the Frontier Corps, a paramilitary force of about 85,000 recruited from ethnic groups living on the frontier.
It quoted Elizabeth Colton, a spokeswoman for the US Embassy in Islamabad, as saying: "The US is bringing in a small number of trainers to assist Pakistan in their efforts to improve training of the Frontier Corps. The US trainers will be primarily focused on assisting the Pakistan cadre who will do the actual training of the Frontier Corps troops."
A senior US military official said the trainers initially would be restricted to Pakistani bases, but could eventually accompany Pakistani troops on missions "to the point of contact" with militants.
Police filed on Saturday formal charges against top Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud and four others of planning the assassination of opposition leader Benazir Bhutto. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#us_sends_more
[RECAPITULATION: Friday's bombing was the bloodiest attack in the Swat Valley since militant followers of a pro-Taliban cleric, Maulana Fazlullah, grabbed control of large parts of the scenic corner of Pakistan's restive north-west …
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: While ever the unending supply of money from the oil monarchs, and of weapons from the non-Muslim world, keep flowing to those trained in the Teachings, no number of U.S. or other advisers will do more than add to the targets for Jihad. If Westerners had not trained Pakistanis in nuclear science, and greedy countries had not mined so much uranium, and greedy entrepreneurs had not sold the uranium to dodgy dealers, Pakistan would not be a nuclear threat.
If that were so, the outside world ought to withdraw gracefully, keeping up large sea and air surveillances to stop more foreign fighters from entering the Pakistan-Afghanistan-Iraq-Palestine "chute." The cost would be enormous – but even the Faithful would tire of killing each other sooner or later! And many Western governments would have to mend their economies by spending money on sensible manufactures and infrastructure for their own peoples, instead of allowing the indecent profits of arming both sides in never-ending hatred and cowardly killings.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Mar 3, 08]
Al-Qaida book deepens Islamic split.
Al-Qaida book deepens Islamic split
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 30, Tuesday, March 4, 2008
[Picture] Split: Ayman al-Zawahri hits out at militants who gave up violence.
CAIRO – Al-Qaida's chief ideologue and strategist, Ayman al-Zawahri, has published a 212-page book on militant Islamic websites slamming his former radical colleagues in Egyptian jails for disavowing armed struggle and turning their backs against violence.
The book, released on the websites on Sunday, is the latest salvo in an intellectual war between the ideological founders of al-Qaida and Islamic militants, many of whom have become disillusioned with its trademark suicide bombings and attacks on civilians.
"This message that I present to the reader today is the most difficult, if not the hardest I have written in my life," al-Zawahri wrote in the introduction to Exonerations, published by al-Sahab, al-Qaida's media wing.
He criticised a series of "revisions" renouncing violence published by prominent jailed Islamist thinkers, saying "it serves the interests of the Crusader-Zionist alliance with the Arab leaders to drug the mujahideen and drag them away from the confrontation".
The most recent renunciation came last year from Sayed Imam, who was once a top leader in the Islamic Jihad group in Egypt and an associate of al-Zawahri.
Imam's writings in the 1980s giving an Islamic legal basis for violent action against "infidel" regimes were highly influential among al-Qaida militants. His "revisions" say that such violence is banned by Islamic law.
Imam followed in the footsteps of other jailed thinkers over the years from Egypt's radical groups that once fought a bloody guerilla war against the state that resulted in over a thousand deaths and the jailing of tens of thousands but who now condemn armed struggle.
Experts on Islamist movements say these revisions could rob militant groups such as al-Qaida of the entire ideological basis for their violent actions.
A video praising recently killed al-Qaida in Afghanistan leader Abu Laith al-Libi issued on Wednesday included an advertisement for the book, describing it as a way to counteract an image of the Islamic world as "helpless, submissive, fearful", the way al-Zawahri said America and the West want Islam to be.
In the book, al-Zawahri maintains that far from being an internal reappraisal of the movement, these revisions are instigated by the US to weaken a movement that had inflicted so many defeats on America.
"The entire crime of al-Qaida and the mujahideen is that they have faced the Americans, the Jews and the agents and so American-made propaganda, such as this document, have been unleashed so that the world would forget and ignore the real criminals," he wrote.
Al-Zawahri – seen by many counterterrorism experts as al-Qaida's operational chief, rather than Osama bin Laden – is believed to have a big part in directing its strategy and issues frequent videos and audiotapes, often laying out its doctrinal line. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#alqaida_book_deepens
[COMMENT: While respecting the revised opinions of the imprisoned Sayed Imam, he is NOT correct in writing that violence against civilians is banned by Islamic law.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN: PRO-VIOLENCE, fighting, destruction, or warfare ayas (verses) include: 2:191, 2:193, 2:216, 2:244, 2:278-79, 2:286, 4:74, 4:76, 5:33, 6:70, 7:4, 8:12, 8:15-16, 8:39, 8:65, 8:67, 8:72, 9:5, 9:29, 9:73, 9:111, 9:123, 16:106, 22:19, 33:60, 47:8, 47:13, 47:35, 48:16, 48:18-19, 48:29, 49:9, 59:5, 66:9
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/066. qmt.html# 066.009 > . (37 ayas, i.e., verses, in this list)
JEWS insulted, denigrated: 2:63 (apes), 2:65, 4:156-57, 5:13, 5:15, 5:44, 5:59-60 (apes and swine), 5:64, 5:82, 57:26, and 62:5-6. (13 ayas)
PEOPLE OF THE BOOK or with SCRIPTURE (not elsewhere listed) INSULTED: 3:19, 3:64, 3:75, and 5:57.
JEWS, VIOLENCE AND LAND-STEALING against them praised: 33:26-27
CHRISTIANS (if TRINITARIAN or WORSHIP JESUS) IN GROSS ERROR: 5:82, 5:116, 6:106, 9:28, 9:31-32, 50:24-25 (8 ayas)
CHRISTIANS DEFINED as INFIDELS: 5:72.
INFIDELS CRITICISED: 4:76, 5:54, 71:26-27
(4 ayas).
INFIDELS, USE VIOLENCE AGAINST: 2:286, 4:76, 47:35, 66:9.
"THE HYPOCRITES," STRUGGLE AGAINST: 9:73, 33:1, 33:60,
"THE HYPOCRITES," MAKE WAR ON THEM: 66:9.
BEHEAD UNBELIEVERS: 8:12
HOLD PEOPLE FOR RANSOM: 47.4
MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS IDOL-WORSHIPPERS: 12:106.
"THE POLYTHEISTS" DOOMED TO THE ETERNAL FIRE: 98:6.
KORAN DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[EXPLANATION – Who were "THE HYPOCRITES"? People who adopted the Mohammedan faith, but did not fully agree with some of the policies, such as warfare – attacking, despoiling, and enslaving other peoples. Who are today's Hypocrites? Other Muslims with whom some Muslims disagree, probably.
Who were, and are, "THE POLYTHEISTS"? The word means worshippers of more gods than one, and they would be classified as among the "infidels." Polytheists are doomed, says 98:6, but what of the majority of Allah-worshippers, who are said to be idol-worshippers, in 12:106 ?
ENDS.]
[HADITH:
JEWS and CHRISTIANS CURSED: 2, 23:414
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/023. sbt.html# 002.023.414 >
JEWS, KILL: Vol. 9, Bk. 84, No. 58;
and
41:6985.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ muslim/041. smt.html# 041.6985 >
NON-MUSLIMS, OTHER, KILL: Vol. 2, Bk. 19, No. 173;
and
9, 84:57.
PERSON WHO LEAVES ISLAM, KILL: 9, 84:57:- … Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.
INVADE OTHER LANDS 4, 53:386.
HADITH GUIDELINE ENDS.]
THE MEANING OF ALL THESE QUOTES? Ask yourself what human being, civilian or otherwise, would be safe from attack, under rules such as the above.
Faced with bombings of people at mosques, churches, hospitals, funerals, weddings, schools (Beslan, and now in Israel), markets, CD stores, etc., kidnappings and ransom demands, booby-trapped corpses, black child slaves being brought into Europe by Muslims (reported Jan 28), aid workers like Margaret Hassan kidnapped and killed or ransomed, trying to execute reporters for "blasphemy" (reported Jan 19), Shi'ite Muslims rioting originally because of their objections to Bahrain's Sunni Muslim ruling family (reported Dec 20, 2007), threats to kill the British Queen (a plot was reported Jan 15-21), and kill the Pope, authors, cartoonists, etc., let us read the aya often quoted by Muslim apologists to say they are not allowed to murder, adding that only extremists would break that rule.
READ the "NO-KILL" AYA (sic): 5:32 (or 5:35):- "… We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one
slew a person -- unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land -- it would be as if he slew the whole people. …"
But, read it a second time; it is in the PAST TENSE, and applies to the Children of Israel. Agreed, Muslim theory is that the Children of Israel were "Muslims" in ancient days – but surely the wording is quite open to the interpretation that it does NOT apply to a present-day Muslim on Jihad (struggle, or holy war). So now non-Muslims might understand why millions of Muslims say that Osama Bin Ladin and his followers are "good Muslims." They quote the Koran and the Hadith, and take Allah's name often on their lips!
And, read it a third time. If slaying a person is as if he slew the whole people, is it logical to think that slaying the whole people (? genocide) is equivalent to slaying one person? With aircraft hijackings, and slaying of Israeli athletes at Munich, one or a hundred deaths, is there any sense of guilt or sin in these scriptures?
SLAVERY, click here: KORAN 4:3, and then search for 4:24, 4:25, 4:92, 23:1 and 23:5-6, 24:33, 24:58, 33:50, 33:52, 33:55, 70:22 and 70:29-30 (11 or so places to look up). Then ask yourself is Allah the same as the God or gods you worship, or the kind of Spiritual Teacher you want to honour?
VERSE (AYA) NUMBERS in the KORAN are different in different translations. The aya numbers quoted above are from Yusuf Ali's translation.
[Mar 4, 08]
Caversham mosque plan sparks petition.
Caversham mosque plan sparks petition
The West Australian,
By DANIEL HATCH, p 39, Tuesday, March 4, 2008
CAVERSHAM (Perth), W. Australia –
At least 144 Swan Valley residents have signed a petition against a Bosnian Islamic Society plan to build a $4 million mosque at Caversham.
The application to build the 1277sqm mosque with 19m minaret on the Smallbrook Retreat is due to go before council this month.
"It has raised a lot of community concern and a lot of people would not sign the petition because … they didn't want to look anti-Muslim," Swan Valley Progress Association president Rod Henderson said.
The association's argument against allowing the mosque to be built on a 9400sqm block on the edge of the valley is that it falls within the Swan Valley Planning Act, which was designed to protect the region from developments that were inconsistent with the tourist, viticultural and horticultural character of the area. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#caversham_mosque_plan
[COMMENT: And five loudspeaker calls to recite anti-Jew, anti-Christian, anti-infidel and anti-hypocrite texts, five times a day, sooner or later. The "environment" covers more than birds and trees, flowers and bees!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
33:60:- If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbours in it but for a little while.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Mar 4, 08]
Pray for us! [Murder and kidnap in supposedly 'submitted to Allah' Iraq.]
Pray for us!
Iraqi Christians beg world's believers for prayer after Archbishop's kidnapping, murders of bodyguards
Vatican describes kidnapping as "despicable," motive may have been money rather than ideology.
The Record
(R.C.
Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
by Carol Glatz, (Contributing to this story was John Thavis in Rome), CNS, Pages One and 12, Wednesday, March 5, 2008
VATICAN CITY (CNS) – Pope Benedict XVI [Ratzinger] appealed for peace and security in Iraq after kidnappers abducted Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho of Mosul, Iraq, and killed the three people who were travelling with him.
[Picture] Kidnapped: Archbishop Rahho of Mosul, Iraq. CNS
"May those who hold in their hands the fate of the Iraqi people
increase their efforts so that through the commitment and wisdom of everyone, Iraqis may regain peace and security and not be denied the future that is rightfully theirs,"
the Pope said to people gathered for his noonday Angelus prayer in St Peter's Square on March 2.
Archbishop Rahho was kidnapped late on February 29 after he finished leading the Way of the Cross, Chaldean Bishop Rabban al Qas of Arbil told the Rome-based missionary news service AsiaNews.
[Picture] Grief: The daughter of a slain bodyguard is held by her mother, right, during his funeral in Mosul, Iraq, on March 1. The guard was among three men killed in the February 29 abduction of Mosul's Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho. PHOTO: CNS / REUTERS
The Mosul archbishop had just left the Church of the Holy Spirit in Mosul and was in his car with his driver and two bodyguards when the kidnappers attacked.
Iraqis call for global spiritual aid from Christian brothers and sisters
[Picture] Victim: Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho of Mosul, Iraq, second from left, was kidnapped on February 29 in Mosul. Archbishop Rahho is pictured at the Vatican last November after a papal audience for new cardinals that included Cardinal Emmanuel-Karim Delly of Baghdad, right. PHOTO: CNS PHOTO / PAUL HARING
"The bishop is in the hands of terrorists," Bishop Qas told AsiaNews on February 29.
"But we don't know what physical condition (the archbishop is in); the three men who were with him in the car, including his driver, were killed," he explained.
The kidnappers reportedly have communicated their demands, which were not made public.
Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Louis Sako of Kirkuk, Iraq, told Vatican Radio on March 2 violence against Christians "destroys the trust and brotherhood" between Iraqis.
But he said numerous Muslim leaders have made appeals and are working for the archbishop's release.
Archbishop Sako said the archbishop was abducted by "a criminal group, it is not a group that claims an ideology," which suggests the kidnappers may only be looking to receive ransom money for the prelate's return.
Archbishop Sako said the Pope's appeal resonates throughout all of Iraq "because when he speaks it is balanced," which is noticed and appreciated by Muslim leaders there.
After praying the Angelus, the Pope said it was with "deep sadness I follow the dramatic news" of the archbishop's abduction.
He said he was adding his voice to the appeal of the Chaldean patriarch, Cardinal Emmanuel-Karim Delly of Baghdad, to quickly release
the 65-year-old archbishop who is in a "precarious condition of health" and reportedly must take medications daily.
The Pope said his prayers were with the "three young men who were with him at the moment of the kidnapping and were killed."
He said his thoughts and prayers were also with "the entire Church in Iraq and in particular the Chaldean church, struck a harsh blow once more." Pope Benedict also encouraged "the priests and faithful to be strong and firm in hope."
A Vatican statement released on February 29 said the archbishops abduction and the killing of his aides was a "despicable act."
"The Holy Father asks the universal Church to join in his fervent prayer that reason and humanity will prevail in the perpetrators of the attack," it said.
The Vatican said the fact that the archbishop was abducted immediately after leading a Way of the Cross service indicated that the attack was premeditated.
The incident comes less than a year after a Chaldean Catholic priest and three subdeacons were gunned down outside the same Mosul church. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#pray_for_us
[RECAPITULATION: … which suggests the kidnappers may only be looking to receive ransom money for the prelate's return.
ENDS.]
[QUESTION 1: Is extorting ransom a pious action?
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 47:4-6 (or 47:4-7):- Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks and of the rest make fast the fetters. And afterwards let there either be free dismissals or ransomings, till the war has laid down its burdens. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[QUESTION 2: Is making war on non-Muslims, and on Muslims who are judged to be hypocrites, a pious action?
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 66:9:- O Prophet! make war on the infidels and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. …
ENDS.]
[QUESTION 3: Does the Muslims' holy book teach that Christians are part of a great fellowship of people worshipping one God and spreading His light, as Western and Muslim apologists claim?
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 9:31-32:-
31. They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords beside Allah. And (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
32. Fain would they extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
9:34-35:-
34. O ye who believe! There are indeed many among the priests
and anchorites, who in falsehood devour the wealth of men and hinder (them) from the Way of Allah. And there are those who hoard gold and silver and spend it not in the Way of Allah: announce unto them
a most grievous chastisement-
35. On the Day when it will be heated in the fire of
Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, -"This is the (treasure) which ye hoarded for yourselves: taste ye,
then, the (treasures) ye hoarded"
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/009. qmt.html# 009.034 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
2, 23:414:- Narrated 'Urwa:
‘Āisha said, "The Prophet in his fatal illness said, 'Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians because they took the graves of their Prophets as places for praying'."
TRADITION ENDS.]
[QUESTION 4: Is driving Christians and others away a religious action? ENDS.]
[KORAN: 2:191 (or 2:187):- And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
ENDS]
[SUMMARY: So, they think Christians worship more than one God, and so are like infidels (who have to be killed or conquered), that the Christian clergy devour people's wealth and hoard it, and that Christians and Jews pray at graves, and he cursed them for that, and ordered that they be driven away and/or persecuted.
No-one blames the Iraqi Christian clergy (see above newsitem) for speaking about "trust and brotherhood betweeen Iraqis," because they live there, and if they complained about the persecutions, more attacks might occur.
The reality is that the Arabs in Iraq, as in other places, follow the teaching of their religion, which includes the duty to persecute (among other groups) both "those who add gods to God," and "the people of the Book."
That the Christians and some Jews, descendants of people who have lived in Iraq for the past 3500 years approximately, have managed to survive, is less a tribute to Muslim "mercy" or "peace" than to the fact that since the Muslims invaded and overthrew their government, the non-Muslims are made to be humble and submissive, and they are profitable.
Non-Muslims have to pay Jizya (tribute, also called the "poor rate"). (See Koran 9:5, 9:29, and Bukhari's Hadith 4, 53:386.) Most conquerors insist on receiving money without working for it. Despoiling non-Muslims has a long history.
ENDS.]
[Mar 5, 08]
Melbourne parish host first Catholic/Muslim meal.
Melbourne parish host first Catholic/Muslim meal
The Record (W. Australia),
by Paul Gray, p 6, Wednesday, March 5, 2008
A Catholic parish in Melbourne has co-hosted the first "Miryam Meal" between members of the Catholic and Muslim communities.
The Miryam Meal is designed to promote dialogue between the Catholic and Islamic faiths at a grass-roots level, with the blessing of the Church.
It takes as its starting point the Hebrew name for Mary, explicitly recognising the unique place of honour given to Jesus' mother within Catholic tradition.
Fr John Pearce, parish priest of St Paul the Apostle parish in Melbourne's Endeavour Hills, spoke at the first Miryam meal along with Dr Salih Yucel, a Muslim and a lecturer at Monash University. "When I heard Dr Yucel talk about Mary, I appreciated my faith tradition through another lens," Fr Pearce said.
The Miryam Meals project grows out of an agreement between the Australian Intercultural Society, a Muslim organisation, and the Ecumenical and Interfaith Commission of the Melbourne Catholic Archdiocese.
The speakers addressed the importance of "dialogue in our faith." Dr Yucel criticised those who oppose interfaith dialogue today. "There are extremists who do not understand the essence of religion and question why people are coming together for interfaith dialogue," he said.
Dr Yucel said no matter which major religion one belongs to, it is imperative to understand the importance of dialogue. "First and foremost, God entered into a dialogue with humanity through the Prophets," he said.
Fr Pearce said those engaged in dialogue are doing a service to the nation. "Australia needs men and women like us who are prepared to walk on the same side of the road and say 'Hello?'
Fr Pearce also acknowledged that the two faiths are different. "We don't have to have the same prayer," he said.
[Picture: Three women in headscarfs, two without.] Learning from each other: Catholic and Muslim women together at the Miryam Meal in Melbourne PHOTO: PAUL GRAY
In July last year the Intercultural Society and the Melbourne Ecumenical and Interfaith Commission signed a Memorandum of Understanding which sketched out joint activities between Muslims and Catholics under four main headings for dialogue.
These are called dialogues of life, action, understanding and religious experience. The Miryam Meals program falls under the heading dialogue of life.
Other initiatives envisaged under the Memorandum include consultation between a Muslim welfare organisation, on one side, and the St Vincent de Paul Society and Centacare on the Catholic side. Dialogues between Catholic and Muslim youth and a proposed "joint pilgrimage" to Rome and Istanbul have also been proposed.
The Australian Intercultural Society is also active in promoting better relations with the Jewish community, co-hosting the second National Social Cohesian [? Cohesion] Conference at the University of Melbourne in late February. This conference focused on the integration of the Muslim community into mainstream Australian society.
A keynote speaker, Supreme Court Judge the Hon Justice Howard Nathan, spoke of the history of the Jewish community in Australia, which began with the first fleet in 1788. The judge described that history as a "good news
story."
Justice Nathan said education had been the key to the successful integration of the Jewish community. "Not only were they (the early Jews in Australia) literate but they were also numerate, which put them ahead of others and stood the Jews in good stead ever since.
"Education, education and yet more education was the key," he said. Muslim comedian and law student Nazeem Hussain also spoke at the Cohesian [? Cohesion] conference, highlighting the important role of humour in communication between migrants and others.
A Turkish Muslim speaker, Mr Kazim Ates, said that migration produced surprising results for many newcomers to Australia. "We actually discovered our religious and cultural identity here in Australia," he said. "We didn't hear about Gallipoli until we got here. We realised we had something in common and we could build on it."
Mr Ates said that going to school in rural Australia had quickly taught him the importance of building on shared values with your neighbours. Sportsmanship, loyalty and business ethics were some of the shared values which Muslims and non-Muslims could use to build relationships with each other. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#melbourne_parish_host
[1st RECAPITULATION: It takes as its starting point the Hebrew name for Mary, explicitly recognising the unique place of honour given to Jesus' mother within Catholic tradition.
ENDS.]
[1st COMMENT: Well, the Orthodox Christian Churches have ikons and show great honour to Mary the mother of Jesus, too. But it would be awkward or perhaps even embarrassing to invite the forgotten early victims of the Islamic invasions to the Miryam Meals, wouldn't it?
ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION:
A Turkish Muslim speaker, Mr Kazim Ates, said … "We actually discovered our religious and cultural identity here in Australia," …
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: That is a worry, judging by the attacks launched by Muslims on the London train and bus passengers, and similar attacks in Madrid. You see, Islam does NOT have a "forgive your enemies" and "revenge is mine, says the Lord" in its scriptures or its culture. But it does have scripture to attack unbelievers, and sharia and other rulings that even insults must be met with force and violence. For example anyone who ridicules Mohammed must be killed, according to sharia. The death fatwas against Salman Rushdie, the Pope, and the Queen are three of the most notorious examples in recent years.
ENDS.]
[KORAN:
5:82 (or 5:85):- Of all men thou wilt certainly find the
Jews, and those who join other gods with God, to be the most intense in hatred of those who believe; and thou shalt certainly find those to be nearest in affection to them who say, 'We are Christians.' …
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/005. qmt.html# 005.082 >
6:106:- … withdraw from those who join other gods with Him.
9:28:- O Believers! only they who join gods with God are unclean! …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
2, 23:414 < www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/023. sbt.html#002. 023.414 >
GUIDELINE ENDS.]
[3rd COMMENT: So Muslims are taught that Allah told them Jews and Christians hate Muslims; that Muslims are to withdraw from some classification of unbelievers, who are unclean; and that Mohammed cursed both Jews and Christians in his final illness (so that bit of discriminatory teaching can't be "abrogated" by a later contradictory ruling). Well, that much dislike of Christians ought to set the teacups rattling!
Let us hope that none of the vicars and the ladies start to show undue honour to the teapots! (read newsitem below about Malaysia's recent sharia court gaoling.)
TRADITION ENDS.]
[Mar 5, 08]
Woman jailed for 'worshipping tea pot'
Woman jailed for ‘worshipping tea pot’
The Telegraph (Britain),
www.telegraph. co.uk/news/ main.jhtml? xml=/news/ 2008/03/04/ wteapot104. xml&DCMP= EMC-new_ 05032008 ,
By Thomas Bell, South East Asia Correspondent, Last Updated 1:37am GMT, March 07, 2008
MALAYSIA …
A sharia court in Malaysia jailed a woman for joining a "tea-pot worshipping" cult.
Kamariah Ali, a 57 year old former teacher, was arrested in 2005 when the government of the Muslim majority country demolished the two storey high sacred tea pot and other infrastructure of the "heretical" Sky Kingdom cult.
For the eccentric sect, which emphasised ecumenical dialogue between religions, the tea pot symbolized the purity of water and "love pouring from heaven".
But in Malaysia, despite constitutional guarantees of freedom of worship, born Muslims such as Mrs Ali are forbidden from converting to other religions.
Passing sentence, the Sharia judge Mohammed Abdullah said: "The court is not convinced that the accused has repented and is willing to abandon any teachings contrary to Islam. I pray God will open the doors of your heart, Kamariah."
Mrs Ali has already been jailed once for apostasy, for 20 months in 1992.
"This has to stop. They can't be sending her again and again to prison for this," her lawyer, Sa'adiah Din, told reporters.
"She informed the court that she is not a Muslim. She doesn't come under Sharia court anymore."
The case underlines the dissatisfaction of non-Muslim Malaysians, who make up just under half the population, ahead of the country's most contentious election in a generation this Saturday.
Yet analysts say gerrymandering, vote buying, press censorship and a virtual ban on opposition rallies make the government unbeatable. Last year 31,000 people over 100 years old were found on the electoral register. They were alleged "phantom voters", who have helped keep the ruling coalition in power since independence 50 years ago.
The population is divided between Hindus of Indian origin, Christian and Buddhist ethnic Chinese and a narrow majority of ethnic Malays who are legally deemed Muslim by birth and whose interests the government is sworn to protect.
Last autumn a protest by Hindus, angered by perceived discrimination such as the demolition of temples, was broken up with tear gas and water cannon.
 |
| The giant teapot at the Sky Kingdom cult's headquarters [left] and the empty grounds after its demolition |
The community has long standing grievances. In one emotional case, the first Malaysian to climb Mt Everest - Maniam Moorthy - was declared a Muslim after his death and given a Muslim burial, to the consternation of his original Hindu community.
Last week Christian churches made a rare political intervention, urging voters to choose candidates who support freedom of worship. Christians have suffered several seizures of bible shipments by customs authorities in recent months.
The rise of sharia law in parallel to the civil code has alarmed both minority faiths, and spawned several controversial judgements in cases of religious conversion and interfaith marriage. The Malaysian government has been implicated in several corruption scandals in recent months and is blamed for a struggling economy.
Analysts say the politicisation of religion in the country is a complex phenomenon but cite among its causes the government's need to draw dissatisfied Muslim voters away from the relatively radical Islamic opposition. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#woman_jailed_for
[RECAPITULATION: Last autumn a protest by Hindus, angered by perceived discrimination such as the demolition of temples, was broken up with tear gas and water cannon.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The newsitem says the decision against the Sky Kingdom lady was made by a sharia court. Destruction by Muslim civic and religious rulers (and sometimes by mobs) of religious buildings, monasteries, and even tombstones of non-Muslims, as well as books, relics, statues, and pictures, have been reported over the centuries up to and including the 21st century. The "teapot sect" did NOT worship a teapot, but instead believed in discussion between various faiths, using a teapot as a symbol of talking things over with a cup of tea. But their teapot building, like the Hindu temples, was destroyed by officialdom using Muslim teachings, as quoted on these webpages, as the reason.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[ALSO REPORTED in:
The Star
ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: An educated person.
ENDS.]
[Mar 07, 08]
[Gunman kills students studying scriptures.]
[Gunman kills students studying scriptures.]
Radio and television reports,
Friday, March 7, 2008
ISRAEL / PALESTINE … A gunman shot dead several students in a Jewish religious school, before he was shot dead.
There was joyousness in some Arab areas of unoccupied Palestine, people jumping up and down, and at least one firing bullets into the air.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#gunman_kills_students
[COMMENT: Does Islam have a commandment against murder? And, have you ever wondered how the Islamists, and some other terrorists, can spare so many bullets to fire into the air to express joy? Who makes the bullets? Who keeps paying for them? Didn't the international welfare agencies issue an urgent appeal for aid to the Gazans, said to be under Israeli seige? Who pays for the bullets and the rockets they keep firing at their Jewish neighbours (themselves not averse to a bit of terrorism)?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Mar 7, 08]
What is lost in translation?
What is lost in translation?
The Post, Subiaco (Perth suburb), Western Australia,
p 42, March 8, 2008
A linguistics lecturer researching issues relating to translations of the Qur'an needs to interview non-Arab Muslims and
interested non-Muslims.
Dahlia Sable's research will look at how translations of the holy book of Islam should be done in order to adhere to the original as well as maintaining readability.
There is a concern that many of the available translations are not accurate, some being too literal to the extent of being incomprehensible while others depart from the Arabic idiom, imagery or structure.
The study will investigate the preferences and problems of non-Arabic speaking Muslims and non-Muslims in reading Qur'an translations.
Those helping in the research need to be over 16 and have a good command of English.
They need to have had some experience with Qur'an translations but don't need to be well versed in the Qur'an.
The 10-page questionnaire will take a few hours and needs to be completed by the end of March.
To volunteer, ring 6488 4554 or email dsabry2007@ gmail.com . #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#what_is_lost
[COMMENT: Needless to say, there are difficulties in translating the Koran (Qur'an) from Mohammad's version of Arabic, but none are unsurmountable, in spite of claims by Islamic leaders that a faithful translation is virtually impossible. Westernised Christians, after being attacked for much of the time from about the 630s onwards, managed in AD 1143 to have it translated into Latin, thus opening it up to both main branches of Christianity.
The following is not an exhaustive list of translations: Latin AD 1143, French translation by AndrƩ du Ryer, from thence into English in 1649 by Alexander Ross. It was translated from Arabic to English by Sale, and since then at least four reputable non-Muslim translators: J.M.Rodwell 1861 (or 1909, if the 2001 Phoenix edition is correct), Palmer 1880, Bell 1937-39, and Arberry 1955. There have been more than 30 translations into English by Muslims, mainly from the Indian sub-continent.
An English convert to Islam, Mohammad Marmaduke Pickthall, published his translation in 1930. In 1956 the translation by N.J.Dawood (born in Baghdad) was first published, and has been revised repeatedly, according to a 2003 Penguin edition.
A notable and reputable work is An English Translation of the Holy Koran, translated by A. Yusuf Ali, 1975, Muhammad Ashraf, Lahore.
Around 1992-93 a revision of Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translation and commentaries was published with copious footnotes and scholarly helps by the royal Saudi Arabian printing and publishing works. The editors of that edition stated (page vii) that "some Arabic words … could not be translated correctlly, such as Zakat and ṬagÅ«t." It was decided to give a transliteration of these words, with a brief explanatory note at its first occurrence in the text. "Where there's a will there's a way." Scholarly pickiness aside, the Koran can also by understood by its results, and by who quotes texts from it.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
3:83 (or 3:77):- Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion? …
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura3.html #83 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Mar 8, 08]
Burials fuel Israeli reprisal.
Burials fuel Israeli reprisal
The Sunday Times (Perth, W. Australia),
p 35, Sunday, March 9, 2008
JERUSALEM: Eight students who died on Thursday when an Arab gunman attacked their religious school were buried on Friday as Israelis and Palestinians braced for trouble.
A river of mourners accompanied the bodies from the bullet-scarred school to their funerals, where they were buried alongside blood-stained Torah scrolls.
Over the past week, Israel and Palestinians have absorbed stunning blows that have shaken hopes of US-promoted peace talks forestalling a new spiral of violence.
"We are heading into very dangerous times," said Mohammed Masri, former head of the Palestinian Authority's intelligence services in Gaza, who now runs the Palestinian Centre for Research and Strategic Studies in Ramallah, on the West Bank.
"If the Israelis are not aware of this, then I don't rule out the possibility of a third uprising."
The attacker's family identified him as Alaa Abu Dheim, a 25-year-old chauffeur for a private firm who held an Israeli identification card.
Authorities would not say whether Abu Dheim, who was killed by police on Thursday, was an Israeli citizen or a Jerusalem resident with more limited rights.
[Picture] GRIEVING: Fatima, centre, the mother of Alaa Abu Dheim, whom family members say killed eight Israeli students, is comforted by relatives.
The fact that he came from East Jerusalem, however, fuelled hostility towards its 250,000 Arab residents, who often live uneasily in parts of the city that Israel captured from Jordan in the 1967 Six-Day War.
At one of the funerals, Israeli Public Security Minister Avi Dichter reportedly told mourners that Arabs in East Jerusalem who were involved in
militant activity should be stripped of their Israeli IDs and expelled to the West Bank.
Police searched Abu Dheim's East Jerusalem house on Friday to try to determine where he got the machinegun he used, whether he'd worked alone and why he chose to attack a landmark religious school that has been an intellectual incubator for Israel's religious settlement movement.
Hezbollah's TV station in Beirut reported that an unknown group had conducted the attack to avenge last month's assassination of Hezbollah leader Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus.
Militant Islamist group Hamas denied it was behind the attack. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#burials_fuel_israeli
[RECAPITULATION: The attacker's family identified him as Alaa Abu Dheim, a 25-year-old chauffeur for a private firm who held an Israeli identification card. Authorities would not say whether Abu Dheim, who was killed by police on Thursday, was an Israeli citizen or a Jerusalem resident with more limited rights.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: "Authorities" -- don't you mean Israeli officials who are defying decades-old United Nations rulings about limiting Jewish seizure of parts of the old Palestine, and parts of Jerusalem? The quarter million Muslims in East Jerusalem are probably descended from Arab invaders who seized Palestine from an Eastern Christian Empire more than 1300 years ago. COMMENT ENDS.]
[HEBREW TORAH, Exodus 21:23-25:
But if any harm follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
< www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0221.htm > (See also Leviticus 24:19-20 and Deuteronomy 19:21).
JUDAIST DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[ARABIC KORAN, 5:45 (or 5:49):- And we decreed for them in it that: the life for the life, the eye for the eye, the nose for the nose, the ear for the ear, the tooth for the tooth, and an equivalent injury for any injury. …
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html #45 >
MUSLIM DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[OTHER NEWSITEM/S in same issue: P. 35: "Queen spared court grilling." LONDON: The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh will not be summonsed to the High Court to answer claims they plotted to murder their daughter-in-law Princess Diana, a coroner has ruled. Billionaire businessman Mohamed al-Fayed lost his legal bid on Friday to call the pair as witnesses despite his claims their testimony was crucial into establishing whether Diana and his son, Dodi al-Fayed, were murdered.
P. 70: "Gunman's slaughter in Jewish school." ISRAEL went on alert after a Palestinian gunmen [? gunman] killed eight teens at a Jewish religious school in Jerusalem before being gunned down. … Later the Israeli army said that it had sealed off the occupied West Bank.
ENDS.]
[Mar 9, 08]
Iran link in Palestinian attacks.
[Israel's attack in Gaza previous weekend killed 120, including 22 children.]
Iran link in Palestinian attacks
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
"World" section edited by Alan Kirk, p 23, Monday, March 10, 2008
JERUSALEM – Israeli officials believe Iranian supporters of the militant Islamic faction Hamas, which rules the Gaza territory, are behind increasing terrorist attacks, including the deadly shooting in a religious school last Thursday.
Their warning that Hamas' use of stronger rockets and larger-scale incursions into Israel represented the escalation of a proxy war were echoed by Jordanian King Abdullah.
"Those in the Iranian Government that are pursuing this policy have hijacked the Palestinian corps," King Abdullah said in Washington at the weekend.
N-threat a world problem, says Peres
Israeli President Shimon Peres called Iran the world's "greatest problem" yesterday but said Israel would not act on its own against the Islamic nation's nuclear program.
"Iran is a danger not just for Israel but for the rest of the world, the combination of being a centre of terror and developing a nuclear option is the most dangerous you can think of," he said.
Last week, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israel had the "might and power" and would use military force if necessary against Tehran's nuclear ambitions.
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"The failure of the peace process will get them to increase their ambitions."
Across Israel at the weekend, eerily familiar sounds cut through the air: sirens, restaurants turning televisions from music programs to news and teenagers phoning home to reassure parents.
Despite the tension, Palestinian and Israeli officials said that peace talks would proceed this week on several levels. The comments came hours after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called for Israel not to abandon peace efforts.
Israeli officials say last week's violence can be attributed, at least in part, to the funding and inspiration supplied by Iran to Hamas and Hiz-bollah, the group Israelis see as its Shi'ite counterpart in Lebanon.
"What Hizbollah has been doing for a long tune is to try to recruit people in the West Bank to direct them to carry out terrorist attacks," Ephraim Sneh, a former Israeli deputy defence minister, said.
The latest violence can be linked directly to Israel's operation last weekend in Gaza, where about 120 Palestinians including 22 children were killed.
A Palestinian legislator from the moderate Fatah movement, Muhib Salameh, tried to explain the issue. "If the people see no political horizon they will become tools of extremist groups like Hizbollah and even al-Qaida," he said.
Militants in Gaza were still firing rockets at the weekend and it is widely believed Hamas got many of these rockets with financial aid from Iran.
Mr Abbas is also worried about Iranian involvement and by what he believes to be an al-Qaida presence in Gaza. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/ethics/submit/subchron7.htm#iran_link_in
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/ethics/submit/subchron7.htm#nthreat_a_world
[COMMENT: But, is anyone "worried" that years ago Israel defied the post-war understandings and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty by building nuclear bombs? And when a former employee "blew the whistle" they kidnapped him and put him into prison for years, and released him "gagged"? The lawless People of the Book cannot expect that their cultural successors will not be lawless, can they? And, harking back to Iran, the Iranian chief nuclear scientist was trained in West Germany. It is not just one race/religion that has people rubbing their hands and saying "Beeznus eez Beeznus."
COMMENT ENDS.]
[JUDAIST SCRIPTURE, Exodus 21:23-25: But if any harm follow, then thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
<: http://www. mechon-mamre. org/p/pt/pt 0221.htm >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[ISLAMIC KORAN, 22:19 (or 22:20): … But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Mar 10, 08]
China foils Islamic terror attack.
[And attacks planned against Olympics, or so it is said.]
China foils Islamic terror attack
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 23, Monday, March 10, 2008
BEIJING – China has foiled an attempt to crash a passenger jet en route to Beijing and the aircraft made a safe emergency landing, a senior official said yesterday in what state media called an attempted terrorist attack.
The China Southern flight originated in Urumqi, capital of the restive far western Chinese region of Xinjiang, where militant Uighurs have agitated for an independent "East Turkestan".
It landed in the north-western city of Lanzhou on Friday after the crew discovered and foiled the attempt to "cause an air disaster", Xinjiang Governor Nuer Baikeli said.
A source said at least two passengers on flight CZ6901 were taken into custody for questioning after flammable material was found in the plane's toilet.
A Chinese official also revealed that police captured or killed alleged terrorists in the area plotting attacks targeting the Beijing Olympics.
Wang Lequan, the top Communist Party official in the western region of Xinjiang, says materials seized in the January 27 raid in the regional capital, Urumqi, suggested the plotters intended "specifically to sabotage the staging of the Beijing Olympics".
Xinjiang is home to eight million Muslim Uighurs, many of whom resent the growing presence and economic grip of Han Chinese. The oil-rich region borders Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Asia.
A senior Chinese official has warned that Uighurs – a Turkic, mainly Islamic people who share linguistic and cultural bonds with Central Asia – were plotting attacks on the Beijing Olympics.
China has said its police shot dead two members of a "terrorist gang" and rounded up 15 others in the raid in January in Xinjiang.
Xinjiang's Communist Party boss Wang Lequan said that the group's aim had been to attack the Olympics.
In January 2007, Chinese forces killed 18 people described as terrorists in a gunbattle in Xinjiang.
The Xinjiang governor said only a "very small number of people" in the region supported the separatists. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#china_foils_islamic
[COMMENT: Strange how the Communist "anti-imperialist" regime won't admit that imperialist warfare on these Turkomans centuries ago has led to an ongoing injustice, which the wonderful Reds ought to have rectified soon after they seized power from the Chinese Republic in the 1940s. On the other hand, have you ever met a Muslim that will admit that the Uighurs were, like other nations on the edge of the old Chinese empire, raiding and attacking from time to time, while the Empire at times had campaigns to conquer them?
The Turkomans are NOT Han Chinese, looking different, believing differently, and speaking a non-Chinese language. Liberation, not separatism, is the aim of the rebels. Their methods are grossly reprehensible -- if the Communist Chinese are speaking the truth. Keep in mind that the Communists have been persecuting the Falun Gong sect for some years, in spite of its meditative and peaceful ways, and before them persecuted Buddhists, Christians, Confucians, Taoists, Lao-tse, etc.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[PRONUNCIATION: "Uighurs" is pronounced "Weegers" on radio and television.
ENDS.]
[Mar 10, 08]
'Kidnapped bishop may be dead.'
‘Kidnapped bishop may be dead’
Iraqi archbishop expresses concern about fate of kidnapped prelate
The Record
(R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
CNS, p 10, Wednesday, March 12, 2008
LONDON (CNS) – An Iraqi Archbishop has expressed concern that Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho of Mosul, Iraq, who was kidnapped for ransom, is sick, injured or has been killed.
No one has heard from Archbishop Rahho since he was kidnapped on February 29 after he finished leading the Way of the Cross in Mosul, said Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Louis Sako of Kirkuk, Iraq, in an interview with Aid to the Church in Need, a Catholic charity helping persecuted Christians. The interview was released by the British branch of the charity on March 10.
Archbishop Rahho "was able to make a call from the back of the car in which he was kidnapped but since then nothing," said Archbishop Sako. "The people in contact with the kidnappers have over several days asked to hear the archbishop's voice, but they are constantly refused."
Archbishop Sako said he was worried the captors have increased the ransom for Archbishop Rahho's release from US$1 million to US$2 million to US$3 million.
"It leaves us with two possibilities," he told the charity. "Either the Kidnapped Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho
Archbishop is sick or injured or he has been killed and the kidnappers just want to get as much money as possible."
The Mosul Archbishop reportedly is in poor health with a heart condition and needs medication daily. Archbishop Sako, who said he thinks the captors are organised, added: "Really, this is a kind of mourning time. There is nothing from the Archbishop - no sign. We don't know where we are heading with the process - the future is totally unknown."
Archbishop Rahho had just left the Church of the Holy Spirit in Mosul and was in his car with his driver and two bodyguards when the kidnappers attacked. The three people who were traveling with him were killed. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#kidnapped_bishop_may
[MUSLIM TEXTS: See the March 5 newsitem "Pray for us!".
ENDS.]
[Mar 12, 08]
Militia admits link to Sudan leaders.
Militia admits link to Sudan leaders
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 26, Thursday, March 13, 2008
KHARTOUM – Adjusting his camouflaged turban, the commander pointed at the weapons and vehicles inside his camp in Sudan's war-torn region of Darfur.
[Picture] On the run: A girl and her brother who fled from Darfur battle overcrowded conditions in a refugee camp in Chad. Picture: Reuters
"All the hardware that we have – where did we get it from?" Mohammed Hamdan said.
"Do you think we just 'magicked' it out of the air? It belongs to the Government." With those words, he destroyed a myth carefully crafted by the Sudanese Government.
Mr Hamdan commands hundreds of gunmen from the notorious
Janjaweed militia, which human rights groups blame for countless atrocities in Darfur's civil war.
But President Omar al-Bashir's Arab-dominated regime has always denied links with the Janjaweed. Instead, Mr Bashir has denounced them as "bandits and thieves" and denied giving the Janjaweed any arms or supplies.
Mr Hamdan spoke near a vehicle mounted with a heavy machinegun, and his fighters were armed with mortars, anti-aircraft guns and Kalashnikov rifles.
"The weapons, the cars, all that you see, we got it from the Government," he said.
This support was given in direct breach of United Nations Resolution 1556, passed in July 2004, which gave the Sudanese regime 30 days to disarm the Janjaweed and bring their leaders to justice.
Mr Hamdan, 31, has been named-by Human Rights Watch as a Janjaweed commander.
From his camp near the town of Um Al-Qura, in Southern Darfur province, he claims to control 20,000 gunmen. These Arab fighters were originally armed and raised by Khartoum to fight Darfur's black African rebels.
The Khartoum regime might disown them now but Mr Hamdan said that his orders came directly from Mr Bashir.
He claimed to have met the President twice in September 2006.
"They asked for a meeting with us," he said.
"There were two places that had fallen to the rebels: Um Sidir and Kiryari (in Northern Darfur).
"After they fell, they called upon us of course as part of the army to go to the northern areas.
"We asked for the hardware that you now see with us. And they provided us with cars and weaponry and we moved to the northern area."
He claimed that Sudanese Defence Minister Abdul Rahim Mohammed Hussein was at both meetings.
"One meeting with the President was in his home and the other was in the armed forces' headquarters," Mr Hamdan said.
"There was a general call to arms, to the entirety of "Sudan after the rebellion began. The Sudanese Government then specifically came to us." He said his troops were trained by the Sudanese regular army. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#militia_admits_link
[COMMENT: This is an important admission of what the aid agencies and the world's news media have been saying for years. Non-Sudanese peace-keepers have actually seen Sudan Air Force planes bomb and strafe a village, and then the Janjaweed on camels and horses sweep in to murder and enslave the survivors. "Rebels" are blacks who are fighting against the dispossession and enslavement policies of the lighter-skinned Arabic-speaking people.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
3:106 (or 3:102):- On the Day when some faces will be white, and some faces will be black. To those whose faces will be black, "Did ye reject Faith after accepting it? Taste then the Chastisement for rejecting Faith."
39:60 (or 39:61):- And on the resurrection day, thou shalt see those who have lied of God, with their faces black. Is there not an abode in Hell for the arrogant?
33:50 (or 33:49):- O Prophet! we allow thee thy wives whom thou hast dowered, and the slaves whom thy right hand possesseth out of the booty which Allah hath granted thee, …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Mar 13, 08]
Saddam had 'no link' to al-Qa'ida.
Saddam had ‘no link’ to al-Qa’ida
The Weekend Australian, www.the australian. news.com.au ,
Correspondents in Washington, AFP, p 14, March 15-16, 2008
A DETAILED Pentagon study confirms there was no direct link between the late Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and the al-Qa'ida network, debunking a claim President George W. Bush used to justify invading Iraq.
Coming five years after the start of the war in Iraq, the study of 600,000 official Iraqi documents and thousands of hours of interrogations of former Saddam colleagues "found no smoking gun between Saddam's Iraq and al-Qa'ida", the study said.
The US administration appeared to bury the release of the study, making it available only at individual request and by mail – instead of posting it on the internet or handing it out to reporters.
A Pentagon spokesman said he did not know why the Joint Forces Command was not posting the report online, but denied it was an attempt to limit its distribution.
"We don't have a reason to do so. I think when you see the report, it will show a Nazi-esque catalogue of Saddam's ties to terror, both within his own country and elsewhere in the Middle East," Pentagon press secretary Geoff
Morrell said
The September 11 Commission and the Pentagon's inspector-general last year reached the same conclusion that there were no ties between Saddam and al-Qa'ida, but none had access to as much information.
"The Iraqi Perspective Project review of captured Iraqi documents uncovered strong evidence that links the regime of Saddam Hussein to regional and global terrorism," said a summary of the Pentagon study to which ABC News in the US provided a link on its website.
"State terrorism became a routine tool of state power" but "the predominant target of Iraqi state terror operations were Iraqi citizens", the summary said.
ABC reported that the study initially was to be posted on the US military's website accompanied by a background briefing with the study's authors.
But the Pentagon scrapped those plans and took the unusual step of offering to send the report by mail only to those who asked for it
Mr Bush, Vice-President Dick Cheney and top aides have insisted there were links between Saddam and al-Qa'ida, citing the alleged ties as a rationale for going to war in Iraq.
"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al-Qa'ida is because there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qa'ida," Mr Bush said in June 2004.
The study says Saddam's regime did not have clear ties to al-Qa'ida, which was responsible for the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US, but had associations with other terror groups including Palestinian militants.
The regime "often co-operated directly, albeit cautiously, with terrorist groups when they believed such groups could help advance Iraq's long-term goals", the study said.
"The regime carefully recorded its connections to Palestinian terrorist organisations in numerous government memos.
"One such example documents Iraqi financial support to families of suicide bombers in Gaza and the West Bank." AFP #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#saddam_had_no
[COMMENT: Genuine reform groups globally had been saying "No links to Al-Qaeda" since before the illegal unnecessary invasion by BLUSH, BLIAR, and
HOWODD. Reformers also stated that the Saddam dictatorship DID NOT have Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), and was NOT importing uranium yellowcake from an African country. This latter lie, based on laughably amateurish forged letters, was exposed also by an official UN watchdog organisation within three days after they managed to get the government conspirators to release copies of the "proofs" they pretended they relied on.
Anti-invasion writers had pointed out that Saddam was not likely to give up his freedom of action, or to adopt the senseless cruelty methods of Osama Bin Laden and his satellites, and actually had a programme to give moderate incomes to the ordinary Iraqi people -- if they obeyed his regime's commands. But Saddam's dictatorship DID publicly present cheques to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, and issued propaganda supporting this waste of Muslim and Israeli lives.
The immoral Iraq invasion was an attempt to control Middle Eastern oil and energy supplies, and probably to prevent the former owners of Palestine from reclaiming it from invaders. The occupation, which was also not necessary from an anti-terrorist viewpoint, has gone horribly wrong to an extent that even some critics might not have foreseen.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Mar 15-16, 08]
Iran election ends nuclear talks; Hardline politicians pump up anti-West stance after moderate reformists fail to make inroads as Iranians go to the polls.
Hardline politicians pump up anti-West stance after moderate reformists fail to make inroads as Iranians go to the polls
Iran election ends nuclear talks
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 12, Monday, March 17, 2008
TEHRAN – Iranian hardliners have celebrated victory in parliamentary elections by toughening their stance against the West, firmly rejecting any possibility of talks over the country's controversial nuclear programme.
Buoyed by early results from Friday's vote, the Government said talks with the group of five permanent United Nations Security Council members and Germany were at an end.
The statement will come as a blow to those who believed the group could still broker a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear crisis, but reflects the strength of the conservative vote.
With more than half the results counted for the 290-seat Parliament, conservatives had taken a 108 to 33-seat lead over their reformist opponents. If the results are repeated in the remaining seats, it will mark a significant victory for the hardliners aligned with Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.
After months of jostling for position among the ranks of rival conservatives, the IRGC is poised to take over from Iran's clerics as the dominant force in Parliament.
In recent weeks some more moderate clerics have been criticised over their lifestyles, undermining their electoral chances. Many reformist supporters boycotted the polls, complaining their candidates had been barred from standing, but the Government claimed that turnout still amounted to more than 60 per cent.
For Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian President who faces re-election next year, the results offered a mixed message. The rise of the IRGC is generally regarded as being in his favour – although he has faced some criticism from its ranks for backsliding – but there were also gains for more moderate conservatives, who have criticised his handling of the ailing economy.
Their success could increase the Ahmadinejad chances of an alternative conservative challenge to Mr Ahmadinejad next year, with Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, the mayor of Tehran, and Ali Larijani, the former nuclear negotiator who resigned after falling out with the President, both possible candidates.
Reformists were hoping at least to form an effective minority bloc, larger than their approximately 40 seats in the outgoing Parliament, but the results pointed to how deeply the movement was hurt when the unelected Guardian Council disqualified 1700 candidates on grounds of insufficient loyalty to Islam or to Iran's 1979 revolution.
Many of their supporters did not vote, but others believed they had to make an effort. "The situation in the country has gone from bad to worse," Araman Mohebi, 25, a businessman in Tehran's main bazaar, said. "I voted for the reformists because something is better than nothing and I hoped they could bring some changes to the suffering of the people.
"I don't like Ahmadinejad and I will never vote for him in the next presidential election either. He has made us face danger with the world and also suffer from high inflation inside the country."
Concerns about the state of the economy may account for the failure of the hardliners to secure a more resounding victory. People preparing for the forthcoming Iranian new year were unhappy at being hit by large increases in prices. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#iran_election_ends
[RECAPITULATION: Buoyed by early results from Friday's vote, the Government said talks with the group of five permanent United Nations Security Council members and Germany were at an end.
ENDS.]
[KORAN:
See
8:12 [behead infidels], and
22:19 (or 22:20) [garments of fire for disbelievers].
33:1:- O Prophet, fear thou Allah and obey not the unbelievers and the hypocrites; …
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/033. qmt.html #033.001 >
33:48 (or 33:47):- And obey not (the behests) of the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and heed not their annoyances, but put thy Trust in Allah. …
47:35 (or 47:37):- Be not fainthearted then; and invite not the infidels to peace when ye have the upper hand …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[p 12, Mar 17, 08]
Moral leader 'in brothel.'
[Brig-Gen. Ali Reza Zarei]
Moral leader ‘in brothel’
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 12, Monday, March 17, 2008
TEHRAN – President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's "moral enforcer", who led a crackdown on women failing to adhere to Iran's Islamic dress codes, has been arrested in a Tehran brothel, London's The Times website reported.
Brig-Gen. Ali Reza Zarei, 53, the Tehran police chief and a confidant of the President, was said to have been with six prostitutes when he was detained by members of his own force two weeks ago.
He has been removed from his post and granted bail, according to the Iranian Farda website.
The Justice Department admitted last week that an unnamed senior official had been arrested.
Gen. Zarei, who was in charge of the program for the "moralisation" of women, faces possible prosecution. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#moral_leader_in
[RECAPITULATION: Gen. Zarei, who was in charge of the program for the "moralisation" of women, faces possible prosecution.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: A MAN working for the "moralisation" of women – why is the Webmaster (male) laughing?! Which gender is most active in trying to achieve the opposite? Another proof that this religion, too, is MAN-made.
The great warriors can hit and imprison women for wearing nailpolish or lipstick, or showing a wrist or ankle!! What courageous sons of the … !!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
4:3:- … marry but two, or three, or four … or the slaves whom ye have acquired.
4:24 (or 4:28):- Forbidden to you also are married women, except those who are in your hands as slaves …
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura4.html #24 >
23:1, 5, 6:- Blessed are the believers … who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them …)
24:33 (or 24:34):- … You shall not force your slave-girls into prostitution in order that you may enrich yourselves, if they wish to preserve their chastity. If anyone compels them, Allah will be forgiving and merciful to them.
< www. usc.edu/ dept/ MSA/quran/ 024.qmt. html #024.033 >.
33:50 (or 33:49):- O Prophet! we allow thee thy wives whom thou hast dowered, and the slaves whom thy right hand possesseth out of the booty which Allah hath granted thee, …
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/033. qmt.html #033.050 >
33:51:- You may put off any of your wives you please and take to your bed any of them you please. Nor is it unlawful for you to receive any of those whom you have temporarily set aside. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: That man needs a good lawyer, able to quote the above in court!
ENDS.]
[p 12, Mar 17, 08]
Catholics celebrate [because after approx. 1000 years they are allowed to build a church!]
IN BRIEF
Catholics celebrate
The West Australian,
http://www.thewest.com.au ,
p 28, Monday, March 17, 2008
QATAR – Thousands of worshippers have gathered in a long and emotional ceremony for the consecration of the first Catholic church in the Gulf state of Qatar, ending decades of underground Christian worship in the deeply conservative Muslim country.
The 2700-seat church was built on land donated by Qatar's emir, Sheikh Hamad Bin Khalifa Al-Thani.
Five other buildings are under construction nearby for other Christian denominations.
During the five-hour Mass on Saturday a cardinal presented the parish with a chalice given by the Pope. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#catholics_celebrate_because
[KORAN:
5:17 (or 5:19):- In blasphemy indeed are those that say God is Christ the son of Mary. …
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html #17 >
5:72 (or 5:76):- Infidels now are they who say, 'God is the Messiah, Son of Mary.' …
5:73 (or 5:77):- They surely are
Infidels who say God is one of three. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html #73 >
And see - 5:82 (or 5:85);
8:12; and
9:28:- O Believers! only they who join gods with God are unclean! …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
2, 23:414.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The Islamists, having recently murdered an Eastern-Rites Catholic Archbishop in Iraq, would seem to have more destruction and murders to plan along with their mosque bombings, if the above texts are any guide. Not everyone who can cry "Allah, Allah," is fit for Heaven's Kingdom!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[p 28, Mar 17, 08]
Faith, Power and Territory: Patrick Sookhdeo's new book released today.
Faith, Power and Territory: Patrick Sookhdeo's new book released today
Barnabas Fund for News, www.barnabas fund.org ,
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[KORAN:
2:191 (or 2:187):- And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
2:193 (or 2:189):- … Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #193 >
9:123 (or 9:124):- O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Bukhari Vol. 3, Bk. 43, No. 656:-
Allah's messenger said, "The hour will not be established until the son of Mary (Isa) descends amongst you as a just ruler (Judge). He will break the cross, kill the pigs and abolish the jizya (tax) …"
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/043. sbt.html# 003.043.656 >.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[FOR MORE about this book, click . (Added 16 Sep 08.)]
[News release Mar 17, 08]
The doctrine of sacred space.
The doctrine of sacred space
Extracts from "The doctrine of sacred space" in Chapter 3 in Faith, Power and Territory; A Handbook of British Islam, (Isaac Publishing, USA), by Patrick Sookhdeo (Britain), pp 45-53, ©2008, published March 17, 2008
BRITAIN: The doctrine of sacred space is a key motivation of radical Muslims. … Areas under Islamic rule are called Dar al-Islam (the House of Islam) and the rest of the world is Dar al-Harb (the House of War). … such territory must be subjugated by Muslim military might, one of the original meanings of jihad.
The Islamic state, whose principal function was to put God's law into practice, sought to establish Islam as the dominant reigning ideology over the entire world … The jihad … was the state's instrument …
28 [p. 45]
… The rest of the world is the home of hostility (dar-al-harb). A Muslim can have only two possible relations with dar-al-harb: peace with a contractual agreement, or war.
29
… Whatever has been won for Islam is dedicated to Allah … Any lost sacred space must be regained …
… According to the Qur’an, the whole earth belongs to Allah, and he has given it to Muslims. …
Allâh has promised those among you who believe and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession (to the present rulers) in the land. … But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the
Fâsiqûn (rebellious, disobedient to Allâh.
(Q 24:55)
Mûsâ (Moses) said to his people: Seek help in Allâh and be patient. Verily, the earth is Allâh's. He gives it as a heritage to whom he wills of his slaves;
–
(Q 7:128)
30 [p. 46]
The Islamic scholar Ibn Taymiyya (1263-1328) … believed that when non-Muslims were conquered by Muslims those lands were being restored by Allah to their rightful owners, the Muslims.
These possessions received the name of fay
31 since Allah has taken them away from the infidels in order to restore (afa’a, radda) them to the Muslims. … thus is restored to a man the inheritance of which he was deprived, even if he had never before gained possession. 32
A relevant concept here is that of waqf … Typically it means dedicating a building or plot of land for religious purposes, whose management and revenues will then be regulated by shari‘a.
[p. 47] […]
Contemporary Muslim scholars
Yusuf al-Qaradawi states that land once held by Muslims may never be given up to non-Muslims.
No Muslim, be he in authority or not, is allowed to abandon any of the lands of the Muslims. …
Conversely, it is the duty of individuals and groups to strive hard to liberate occupied territories and retrieve usurped land. … Therefore I have issued a Fatwa indicating that it is unlawful for all homeless Palestinian refugees to accept damages in return for their lost land, even if they amount to billions. The land of Islam is not for sale; it is not to be relinquished, and no damages can possibly make up for its loss.
38 [p. 49] […]
Implications of "lost lands"
Lands which were formerly under Islamic rule include Israel, Spain, the Balkans [southern Europe] and Chechnya [formerly conquered by the Russian Empire] to name but a few. [p. 51]
[…]
Sacralising territory for Islam in the UK
New lands settled by Muslims are being added to the sacred space of Islam. Migrant Muslim communities in the West are constantly engaged in sacralising new areas … mosques … processions … marchers transcribe the name of Allah on the space they cover …
44
… Local place names have been changed in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets in response to the requests of Muslims living there who object to saints' names and other Christian-sounding names for their parks, electoral wards, etc. … [p. 52]
[…]
The marked tendency of many British Muslims to live close together and create what are effectively Muslim enclaves can be easily understood in the light of the doctrine of sacred space. … For example dog-owners have been told … the animals will be killed … (Dogs are considered unclean by Muslims.) Christians and Hindus living in Muslim-majority areas have been threatened … A BBC1 Panorama programme has highlighted the issue of "white flight" in Blackburn.
47 There are some incidents of specifically anti-Christian violence (see pages 73-74). … likely … will be demanding some form of semi-autonomy. [p. 53]
___________________
28. Majid Khadduri, War and Peace in the Law of Islam, Baltimore: Johns Hopkins Press, 2955, pp. 51, 53.
29. Sayyid Qutb, Milestones, Indianapolis: American Trust Publications, 1990, p. 102.
30. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali and Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Interpretations of the Meanings of the Noble Qur’an, 15th edition, Riyadh: Darussalam, December 1996.
31. Fay is war booty (including land) gained without fighting.
32. Ibn Taymiyya, Majmu’at al- Fatawa li-Sheikh al-Islam taqi al-Din Ahmad bin Taymiyya al-Hurani, al-Mansourah: dar al-Wafa’ Wal nashr Wal Tawzi’, 1997, p.308. English translation from Bat Yeor, Islam and Dhimitude: Where Civilizations Collide, Madison, Teaneck: Fairleigh Dickinson University Press and Lancaster, UK: Gazelle Book Services, 2002, p. 59.
38. "The Sacred Duty of Defending Jerusalem", 23 August 2005,
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543558 , viewed 6 August 2007.
44. Pnina Werbner, Imagined Diasporas among Manchester Muslims, Oxford: James Currey, 2002, pp. 116-117.
47. Transcript of "White Fright", Panorama, BBC1, shown 7 May 2007, BBC News, 25 May 2007.
[EXPLANATION: "Q" is used above as an abbreviation for the
Qur’an = Qur'an, i.e., the Koran.
ENDS.]
[MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE BOOK:
Submit / Reading # Faith, Power and Territory.
ENDS.]
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[COMMENT ON the fate of the author of Milestones, which was cited in endnote 29: "When Sayyid Qutb published the Arabic version of Milestones in Cairo in 1964, he was promptly arrested and then hanged in 1966 " -- http://www.globalcomplexity.org/AHDR.htm .
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[BOOKSTORE ON SIMILAR SUBJECTS: All Bookstores . com: http://www.allbookstores.com/Dhimmis_sd.html .
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[WEBPAGE CRITICISING ISLAM: "The Islamic Time Bomb;
A Survey on the Differences Between Islam and Other Ideologies,
Its Compatibility With Free Society and the Possibility of Reform,"
http://www.geocities.com/ibniblis/timebomb.html ,
By Ibn Iblis, April 28, 2007.
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#the_doctrine_of_sacred
(Researched and inserted on this website on 15 Dec 08)
[Extracts. List with Mar 17, 2008]
Chaldeans mourn martyred Archbishop.
Chaldeans mourn martyred Archbishop
The Record (R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
By Cindy Wooden, p 16, March 18 2008
VATICAN CITY (CNS) – Pope Benedict XVI [Ratzinger] called the kidnapping and death of an Iraqi Archbishop "an act of inhuman violence that offends the dignity of the human being".
Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho of Mosul, 65, was kidnapped on February 29 in an attack that left his driver and two bodyguards dead.
The Pope had made several public appeals for his release.
Catholic leaders in Iraq said on March 13 that they had recovered the Archbishops body after the kidnappers told them where they had buried him.
Police were unclear if Archbishop Rahho had been killed.
The Archbishop of Mosul had no bullet wounds, his body showed signs of decomposition and he appeared to have been dead a week, reported the British news agency Reuters.
Archbishop Rahho's funeral and burial were held on March 14 outside Mosul, a northern Iraqi city considered to be a stronghold of al-Qaida, according to The Associated Press. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki blamed al-Qaida for the Archbishop's death.
The Vatican announced on March 14 that Pope Benedict would celebrate a memorial Mass for the Archbishop on March 17 in the Redemptoris Mater Chapel of the Apostolic Palace.
In a March 13 telegram to Cardinal Emmanuel-Karim Delly of Baghdad, Patriarch of the Chaldean Catholic Church, Pope Benedict said that after being informed of "the tragic death" of the Archbishop, whom he called a "zealous pastor," he wanted to let Chaldean Catholics and all Christians in Iraq know that he is close to them.
[Picture] Grieving: Mourners hold pictures of Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos FarajRahho of Mosul during his funeral in a village outside Mosul, Iraq, on March 14. Archbishop Rahho, who was kidnapped on February 29, was found dead on March 13. PHOTO: CNS / REUTERS
The Pope also said he was praying that the Lord would show "his mercy so that this tragic event would serve to construct a future of peace in the martyred land of Iraq."
Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, said Pope Benedict was informed immediately of the recovery of Archbishop Rahho's body.
"We all had continued to hope and pray for his liberation," Father Lombardi said.
"Unfortunately, the most absurd and unjustified violence continues to weigh on the Iraqi people and particularly on the small Christian community, to whom the Pope and all of us are particularly close in prayer and in solidarity at this moment of great pain."
Father Lombardi said the Vatican hoped "this tragic event" would lead to a greater commitment by all, particularly the international community, to work for peace in Iraq.
Chaldean Auxiliary Bishop Shlemon Warduni of Baghdad told the Italian Catholic agency SIR that the kidnappers had informed church leaders on March 12 "that Archbishop Rahho was very ill," then a few hours later they phoned again to say he had died.
"This morning (March 13) they telephoned to tell us they had buried him," Bishop Warduni said.
The Church sent several young men to an area just outside Mosul where the kidnappers had said the grave was located, and the body was recovered.
"We do not yet know if he died of causes tied to his precarious health or if he was killed," Bishop Warduni said, referring to the Archbishop's
heart condition, for which he needed medication daily. "The kidnappers told us only that he was dead."
Chaldean Bishop Rabban al Qas of Arbil told the agency AsiaNews: "It is a heavy cross for our Church ahead of Easter."
Archbishop Rahho was kidnapped after leading the Way of the Cross service at the Church of the Holy Spirit in Mosul.
He was in his car with his driver and two bodyguards when the kidnappers attacked.
The three people who were travelling with him were killed.
The kidnappers' demands reportedly included a $1 million ransom.
While mediators were in contact with the kidnappers early on, police and military intelligence officers were unable to find them. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#chaldeans_mourn_martyred
[COMMENT: Read the last sentence again. Funny, that! The Iraqis know which side they are one! Then, ask yourself if Allah has a loving opinion of Christian clergy, beliefs, and customs.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
9:31-32:-
31. They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords beside Allah. And (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
32. Fain would they extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
9:34-35:-
34. O ye who believe! There are indeed many among the priests
and anchorites, who in falsehood devour the wealth of men and hinder (them) from the Way of Allah. And there are those who hoard gold and silver and spend it not in the Way of Allah: announce unto them
a most grievous chastisement-
35. On the Day when it will be heated in the fire of
Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, -"This is the (treasure) which ye hoarded for yourselves: taste ye,
then, the (treasures) ye hoarded"
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/009. qmt.html# 009.034 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[QUESTION: When a Melbourne Catholic group held a much-publicised joint meal with Muslims (reported March 5, 2008), was this text read out, one wonders! If not, why not? Or is the scripture 1 Corinthians 4:10 appropriate for such Catholics?
ENDS.]
[ALSO READ: "Prelate grieves," by Paul Gray, on the same page, about the Australian Catholic Bishops' Conference reaction. Words, words, words.
ENDS.]
[Mar 18 08]
Jemaah Islamiyah [may strike Indonesian churches March
21-23.]
Jemaah Islamiyah
Barnabas Fund for News, http://www.barnabasfund.org ,
www.barnabas fund.org:80/ News/archives/ text.php?ID_ news_items=393 ,
March 18, 2008
INDONESIA –
Barnabas Fund has received credible reports that the Al-Qaeda linked terrorist organisation Jemaah Islamiyah has threatened to target Christians in Indonesia this Easter. Jemaah Islamiyah has been responsible for many attacks in the past - it is believed to have organised the Bali bombings in 2002 and 2005, and bomb attacks at churches on Christmas Eve in 2000.
Jemaah Islamiyah is dedicated to creating a single Islamic state throughout South-East Asia under shari'a law. It considers non-Muslims as legitimate targets and is active throughout the region. The organisation is closely linked to Al-Qaeda, and has shown that is it able to carry out devastating attacks, such as the Bali bombings in 2002 which killed 202 people. On Christmas Eve, 2000, Jemaah Islamiyah bombed several churches in Jakarta, Bandung and Riau, killing 18 people and injuring more than a hundred.
Threats to Christians on major celebrations such as Easter and Christmas are frequent in Indonesia, and security guards are often posted outside churches at this time. Some churches in Jakarta keep metal detectors near their entrances to try to thwart bomb attacks. This Easter will therefore be a time of great anxiety for Indonesia's Christians.
Please join with us in prayer–
1. Pray that Indonesian Christians will be able to worship in safety this Easter.
2. Pray that the authorities in Indonesia be active in protecting Christians from terrorist attacks and that that they will apprehend those who threaten to attack Christians. #
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[KORAN: 5:14,
5:82 (or 5:85),
9:30,
60:4.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH: 2, 23:414.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[Mar 18, 08]
11-year-old boy marries 10-year-old cousin
11-year-old boy marries 10-year-old cousin
The Age (Daily, Melbourne, Vic., Australia),
www.theage.com. au/news/ world/ 11yearold- boy-marries- 10yearold- cousin/ 2008/03/19/ 1205602 419887.html ; AFP, 6:25AM, March 19, 2008
SAUDI ARABIA –
An 11-year-old boy has married his 10-year-old cousin in the ultra-conservative Muslim kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Mohammed al-Rashidi and his unidentified cousin will seal the marriage they contracted under the sharia laws of Islam and move in together after a ceremony to take place in the summer, Al-Shams newspaper reports today.
"I am ready for this marriage. It will help me study better," Mohammed, who goes to primary school in the northern province of Hail, was quoted as saying by Al-Shams.
"I invite all my classmates to do like me," the boy said, adding that he wanted to "crown a love story through marriage".
The schoolboy's father, Muraizak al-Rashidi, told the newspaper he was busy sending out invitations for a summer celebration to seal the marriage.
Dahim al-Jaber, the headmaster at Mohammed's school, said marriage at such a young age was "inappropriate" but wished the couple a happy life together.
AFP #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#11_year_old_boy
[COMMENT: 10 year old girl marries under Sharia Law -- Do we really want to risk introducing Sharia law into Australia? -- Lesley.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Vol. 5, Bk. 58, No. 236 (Bukhari's collection): Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Āisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed [[? Consummated]] that marriage when she was nine years old.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/058. sbt.html#005. 058.236 > .
TRADITION ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Nick Maine; to get his news updates, click nmaine AT bigpond DOT net DOT au .
ENDS.]
[Mar 19, 208]
Hilali protest at cartoons [They show "hatred and envy" by the West, he said.]
Hilali protest at cartoons
The Weekend Australian,
by Natalie O'Brien, p 2, Saturday and Sunday, March 22-23, 2008
AUSTRALIA –
CONTROVERSIAL Muslim cleric Taj Din al-Hilali yesterday rallied his supporters against the publication of cartoons insulting to Mohammed, just a day after Osama bin Laden denounced the European Union over the same issue in a new videotape.
At his sermon at Australia's biggest mosque, in the southwest Sydney suburb of Lakemba, Sheik Hilali said the cartoons, published in a Danish newspaper in 2005 – and republished last month – showed the "hatred and envy" felt by the West against Islam.
He said today's sermon at the mosque would be followed by a march to a nearby park to protest against the cartoons.
"The West announces holding a competition for caricatures that insult the Messenger of God, may he be blessed," Sheik Hilali said.
"And the worst drawing, that succeeds in causing the most harm in order to provoke the Muslims and cause them hurt for their prophet, wins the competition. They are determined. They are hateful."
In an audiotape message posted on a militant website, bin Laden warned Europe of a "reckoning" over the cartoons and claimed their publication formed part of "the framework of a new Crusade" in which the Pope "has played a large, lengthy role".
At his sermon today, Sheik Hilali is expected to be critical of the new-look secular Muslim advisory board being considered by the Rudd Government, saying it will be a waste of time for the public and the Government. He will make an appeal to the Government not to make the same mistakes as its predecessor.
In his sermon, Sheik Hilali will also congratulate Kevin Rudd for his Stolen Generations apology, saying it was a courageous decision that removed a lot of bad feeling in the community.
[Picture] Rally against caricature: Taj Din al-Hilali at Lakemba Mosque. He will protest today against the 2005 Mohammed cartoons Picture: Amos Aikman
He will say the Government's congratulations to Israel for its 60th anniversary ignored the plight of the Palestinians. He will express his grief at the "Zionist occupation of Palestine" and call on people around the world to stand with the Palestinians so they can live in peace.
As revealed in The Australian earlier this month, the Government plans to recruit sporting figures, academics and mainstream Muslims for the new advisory group in an effort to help change the overly religious image of Islam in Australia.
Sheik Hilali said the Government must include religious leaders in the proposed advisory group. He said they did not need to be imams, but they did need to be people who understood the community, the law and the religion, and were accessible to ordinary worshippers.
"The danger is that there will be no solutions achieved and it will just create more problems, and they will find themselves catapulted towards more negative stereotypes," Sheik Hilali said.
"We want people who have relevant qualifications and can give the right information. We would like the Government to get it right from the start and see the community for what it is. They must have a clear vision for the future."
The advisory group is being considered despite the previous government in 2006 abolishing the troubled Muslim advisory board that was set up by John Howard after the London terrorist attacks in 2005.
The previous body was headed by academic Ameer Ali, who had been criticised for being out of touch and out of reach of the ordinary Muslim. The Government is focused on reshaping the group and shifting the focus to everyday Muslims.
The president of the Islamic Friendship Association, Keysar Trad, said: "We don't need another reference group which put us at odds with mainstream Australia."
A wide range of Muslim leaders have backed the plan to promote more moderate and secular voices from the community, but many say imams must be consulted to offer the correct religious perspective.
World - Page 10 #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#hilali_protest_at
[RECAPITULATION: – the Government plans to recruit sporting figures, academics and mainstream Muslims for the new advisory group in an effort to help change the overly religious image of Islam in Australia.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Islam IS a RELIGION, fools! It is also a global militaristic political movement.
ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION:
The president of the Islamic Friendship Association, Keysar Trad, said: "We don't need another reference group which put us at odds with mainstream Australia."
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Mr Trad is right. Instead of the ineffective Australian politicians trying to find "Uncle Tom" type Muslims, the Muslim community ought to be studying how they can fit into Australia's free and seemingly agnostic and immoral society. If this seems impossible, the community ought to follow the advice of a certain sect's imams, who say Muslims ought to emigrate to Muslim lands.
ENDS.]
[KORAN:
2:191 (or 2:187):- And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[3rd COMMENT: Guess who is being told to "drive" other people out? It was the new religionists, that claimed they had a universal mandate! Their fellow-citizens and their relations were to be driven out of their usual places!
ENDS.]
[BUKHARI'S HADITH: Vol. 2, Bk. 19, No. 173:- [ … ] Later on, I saw him killed as a non-believer.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/funda mentals/hadith sunnah/bukhari/ 019.sbt.html# 002.019.173 > TRADITION ENDS.]
[4th COMMENT: What "hatred and envy" have you noticed against Islam? Most Westerners are so "out of it" they hardly know what is in the news. The tiny percentage of Westerners who are awake feel a sympathy for the unfortunate people stuck in the Muslim time-warp. Great sympathy is felt for their females, who face a life of violence and downtreading. Sympathy, too, for people believing that an invisible being can supposedly order people to put on bomb-belts and sacrifice their lives for an unproved religious theory, while the earthly spokespersons do NOT GO OFF TO COMMIT JIHAD SUICIDE. Sensible people in the mosques would be exquisitely polite, and say: "You go first, imam!"
[March 22-23]
Mosque row in court [The "unavoidable" takeover by the "true" sons of the Prophet?]
Mosque row in court
The Weekend Australian,
by Natalie O'Brien, p 2, Saturday and Sunday, March 22-23, 2008
SYDNEY (NSW), Australia –
AN alleged member of a global movement described as a recruiting ground for al-Qa'ida has been been ordered to stay away from a Sydney imam and his mosque amid a power struggle.
An apprehended violence order has been issued against Abdullah Yousef, who, Sydney's Bankstown Local Court was told, is a member of Tablighi Jamaat, a religious group named in a US intelligence report as being an "indirect line to terrorism".
Members of TJ in Sydney have been accused of attempting to oust Imam Shah Abdul Karim Quasimi to seize control of the mosque at Sefton, in the city's southwest, where he preaches.
Mr Yusef failed to attend court for the AVO hearing as he was overseas. He has previously denied to The Australian that he is a TJ member.
Magistrate Daniel Reiss granted a two-year AVO against Mr Yusef, 39, last Friday after hearing he had tried to evict Sheik Abdul Karim from his home next to the mosque and had allegedly threatened to kill him if he returned.
The court was told trouble at the mosque had started because of a power struggle between groups. One of those groups, which follows the Tablighi stream of Islam, wants to take over the mosque, push out Sheik Abdul Karim and bring a Tablighi preacher from overseas to fill the role.
Sheik Abdul Karim told the court Mr Yusef was a member of the TJ and that it was an extremist group. Last month, TJ was described by the private US intelligence group Stratfor as a recruiting ground for al-Qa'ida. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#mosque_row_in_court
[RECAPITULATION: An apprehended violence order has been issued against Abdullah Yousef [now overseas], who, Sydney's Bankstown Local Court was told, is a member of Tablighi Jamaat, a religious group named in a US intelligence report as being an "indirect line to terrorism". [ … ]
One of those groups, which follows the Tablighi stream of Islam, wants to take over the [Sefton] mosque, push out Sheik Abdul Karim and bring a Tablighi preacher from overseas to fill the role.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: No overseas preacher is in Australia's national interest. But, both the present Australian government, Labor, and the previous Liberal-National government, put overseas interests before those of their compatriots, and not only in relation to this religion.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[REPEATED STATEMENT: Islam means "submission" -- it does NOT mean "peace." The preachers say to submit to Allah, but for 1400 years an increasing number of unfortunate victims have had to submit to force and a distorted "theology."
Disputes between Muslims are easily fitted into the "morality," because opponents are dubbed "hypocrites," against whom the Prophet was urged to strive hard (9:73).
But women are the first and worst-served victims.
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 33:60 <: www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/033. qmt.html# 033.060 >.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[March 22-23, 2008]
Episcopal head's Gaza visit highlights plight of Palestinians
Episcopal head’s Gaza visit highlights plight of Palestinians
Ekklesia (Britain),
www.ekklesia. co.uk/node/ 6959 , By agency reporter, Mar 23, 2008
GAZA,Palestine –
US Episcopal Church Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori's recent visit to Gaza brought a deeper understanding of the humanitarian crisis that is impacting 1.5 million Palestinians in the region and offered some signs of hope in the work of the Al Ahli Arab Hospital, local churches and human rights organizations - writes Matthew Davies for ELO.
Throughout 19 March 2008, Jefferts Schori heard a constant message of Muslims and Christians united in their witness and common mission for peace, justice and reconciliation.
Joined by Anglican Bishop in Jerusalem Suheil Dawani, who was visiting Gaza for the first time since his installation in April 2007, Jefferts Schori was encouraged by the hospital's commitment to providing essential healthcare in the Palestinian territory that has been severely affected by Israel's blockade of Gaza.
Israeli officials have said the blockade, enforced since January 17, has been necessary to put pressure on militant Palestinians to stop firing rockets into southern Israel. But regular power cuts, food and water shortages, lack of fuel, and attacks from the Israelis are placing immense pressure on the local population.
Donkey-driven carriages, vehicles backed up at gas stations, countless garbage piles and rocket-punctured buildings are typical scenes on Gaza's streets, and with the highest density of population in the world, the city's unemployment rate stands at 80 percent.
But the Al Ahli Arab Hospital, along with its dedicated staff and inspirational director Suhaila Tarazi, brings hope to Gaza's traumatized community, including its 3,000 Christians.
In addition to dispensing free medical treatment and services to everyone, the hospital also provides food and other necessities to those in need. But it struggles without electricity for 10 hours a day and it relies on limited fuel supplies to operate its generator. The blockade has also caused difficulties in bringing medicines into Gaza, and some food items, Tarazi said, have increased in price by 500 percent.
Founded as a mission of the Anglican Church in 1882, the hospital became a service ministry of the Episcopal Diocese of Jerusalem in 1982.
Touring the grounds, the Presiding Bishop and her delegation -- husband, Richard Schori; ecumenical and interfaith officer, Bishop Christopher Epting; and director of government relations, Maureen Shea -- met some of the patients and staff, and heard about the services that benefit some 45,000 local Palestinians per year, including free medical missions offered twice weekly.
One male patient told Jefferts Schori that the hospital provides the best services in Gaza and praised the staff for their tireless work.
Another said that he thanks God for people coming to visit. "The situation is very bad, but we are in God's hands," he said.
"We will go home and tell the story and continue to pray for peace," Jefferts Schori said.
"This is a place of love and reconciliation," Tarazi said, acknowledging the unity between Muslims and Christians in Gaza. "We are all children of Abraham working in mission to help one another."
"Everyone has a story," said Dawani, "and it is a story of deep faith. This is our witness."
The American Friends of the Episcopal Diocese of Jerusalem (AFEDJ) and Episcopal Relief and Development (ERD) have provided critical financial assistance to the hospital as it struggles to serve the predominantly Muslim population in Gaza where about 80 percent of the population are living below the World Health Organization poverty line.
In January, the AFEDJ board sent $18,000 to the hospital for immediate humanitarian purposes. AFEDJ, a non-profit, non-political organization which supports the work of the Episcopal Diocese of Jerusalem, donated more than $160,000 to the hospital in 2007.
After leaving the hospital, the Presiding Bishop and her delegation met with Archdeacon Artemios of the Orthodox Church and visited the 1600-year-old building where he serves his congregation. He acknowledged that Gaza's Christian population is unique "because we live in peace with Muslims."
Jefferts Schori told Artemios "it is shocking to see the reality" in Gaza and that most Americans have very little awareness of the situation. She introduced Shea's work with government relations in Washington, D.C.
"We try to correct misinformation and now we can go back and relay what we have seen with our own eyes," Shea said.
Gaza's heads of Churches and dignitaries joined the Presiding Bishop's delegation for lunch overlooking the Mediterranean Sea where hundreds of fishing boats were moored due to fuel shortages in the region.
Earlier in the day, the delegation's entry into Gaza began at the Erez terminal, one of two main crossing points from Israel, where the delegation waited one hour for security checks before being granted entry.
A Palestinian family, including a young girl, was waiting to cross into Gaza to see relatives for the first time in two years. Although they had already secured the required permits, they were told the border had been closed. Moments later, the Presiding Bishop's delegation was granted access.
Once inside the complex, a long line of numbered metallic boxes with bullet-proof shielding faced the delegation, but the vast space was eerily empty and it was clear that not many people would be crossing the border today.
After passing security checks and walking 150 meters through no-man's land, the delegation arrived at an unmarked steel gate which opened to reveal a welcoming Palestinian man who was eager to assist in carrying the box filled with flashlights and equipment Dawani was delivering for the generator at Al Ahli Arab Hospital.
The first sighting of Gaza revealed a long dirt track with concrete bollards in the distance and a once-functional industrial city left in ruins from repeated Israeli attacks.
Once across the border, the delegation was met by Tarazi and members of the Ministry of Interior that provided security throughout the day.
The Gaza Strip, 25 miles long and between 4.5-7 miles wide, lies along the Mediterranean Coast and borders both Israel and Egypt. Its almost exclusively Palestinian population of 1.5 million includes 750,000 refugees.
Israel disengaged from Gaza and dismantled its settlements in August 2005 after almost 40 years of occupation.
Following the June 2007 conflict between Hamas and Fatah, known as the Battle of Gaza, the area is controlled by the Palestinian Islamist militant organization Hamas.
During the afternoon, the Presiding Bishop's delegation heard about the work of two Palestinian human rights organizations, Al Mezan Center and The Palestinian Centre.
Earlier in the week, the delegation met with the Israeli human rights group B'Tselem, and Ir Amim, an Israeli organization that strives for an equitable and stable Jerusalem with an Agreed Political Future and engages in issues impacting on Israeli-Palestinian relations in Jerusalem and on the political future of the city.
Shea said she is delighted that B'Tselem will be opening an office in Washington, D.C. "It is important that Americans hear from Israelis who are deeply concerned about the affects of both the separation barrier and the check points on the daily life of Palestinians as well as on Israeli society," she said. "The well-researched information they bring will be enormously helpful in our advocacy for Middle East peace.
"In this land where the need for reconciliation is so great, where hopes for peace have been continually dashed, there are wonderful people and groups -- both Palestinian and Israeli -- who work daily to expose injustice, to find ways to bring people together, and to help them so that healing might begin."
Shea said the delegation has learned a great deal from the meetings with Rev. Naim Ateek and the staff and volunteers at Sabeel, as well as the leaders of Ir Amim, B'Tselem, Al Mezan Center and the Palestinian Center. "It is through groups such as these that we will have the just and reconciled world that is the promise of Easter."
Concluding the day in Gaza, Jefferts Schori reiterated that the information that filters through to the United States is very different from the reality on the ground. "We will tell the story loudly and freely and we will tell it to our government as well," she said.
She acknowledged her gratitude for what the Palestinian community is able to accomplish with minimal financial resources. "But you are rich in human resources," the Presiding Bishop said, and noted that she had been blessed to see many prophets on her visit.
© Matthew Davies, editor of Episcopal Life Online and Episcopal Life Media correspondent for the Anglican Communion, is traveling with the Presiding Bishop in the Holy Land. http://www. episcopalchurch. org/episcopal_life.htm #
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[COMMENT: Well, if a people try to win their land back by firing rockets indiscriminately across the illegal border into the illegal Israeli settlements, who is right and who is wrong?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Mar 23, 08]
A mother's mission [to rescue stolen daughters from Lebanon. Book Flight of the Dragonfly by Melissa Hawach, 2008]
A mother’s mission
STM, The Sunday Times Magazine (Perth, W. Australia),
An edited extract, pp 22-24, March 23, 2008
FOR 174 DAYS MELISSA HAWACH WAS WITHOUT HER GIRLS. HER DARING BID TO SNATCH THEM BACK FROM THEIR AUSTRALIAN FATHER IN LEBANON IS THE SUBJECT OF HER BOOK
FLIGHT OF THE DRAGONFLY. THIS IS AN EDITED EXTRACT. PICTURE BY SARAH RHODES
IN MY MARRIAGE TO JOSEPH HAWACH, my wearing pants was an issue. Not shaving my legs was an issue. My playing baseball was an issue. My taking university courses was an issue. When I married Joe, I had known him for two years. I knew his family and I had experienced first-hand their generosity and goodness.
Joe is the eldest of six siblings, and I liked them all. I liked Joe's mother, Gladys, who has a great sense of humour. I would go to church with Joe's brother Pierre. I liked the spirit and fun of the restaurants the family ran, the Lebanese neighbourhood in Rosehill (in Sydney), how everyone lived around the corner.
Perhaps, had Joe and I lived together for some time before taking the plunge, some of the cultural differences between us would have been revealed. But that really was not an option. Cohabitation would have shown great disrespect to his family, and I did not want that.
Joe and I got married on November 14, 1999. We had our honeymoon in Paris, and my new husband was very romantic and seemed very much in love with me. And I loved him.
But even then, just days into our marriage, he expressed disappointment. He thought there would be more sex, and he was not shy about voicing his complaint. "Are you frigid?" he would ask. "Are you a lesbian?"
The honeymoon was not relaxing at all. We wanted to see too much of Europe in just three weeks. Still, I have good memories of our touring. Years later, Joe would tell me the honeymoon was a terrible disappointment. Was it really? Were we on different honeymoons? How could I have remembered a much better time? Did he really mean it when he told me that he was so disappointed that he prayed the plane taking us home would crash?
Joseph Hawach is not an introspective man. Neither does he have much of a sense of humour. He was a controller and a scorekeeper: It was all about winning. I would write long letters to him, explaining what I was feeling, expressing hope that we could work through our problems. I would leave the letters on the kitchen table, but he would pointedly ignore them.
He would get upset if I wore pants five days in a row (he kept count), or if I did not shave my legs (not something I ever worried about) he would call me a lesbian. I had coached a girls' basketball team in Sydney and had been athletic all my life. Suddenly I was supposed to be a glam girl? I was shocked that Joe could be so cruel and make such absurd demands.
One day early in 2000, just one month into my marriage, I was working with Joe at the restaurant downtown when I turned four people away because the only table left was too small to accommodate them. Actually, they themselves made the decision since they weren't interested in waiting for a bigger table to free up.
Joe started yelling at me, something he had never done, and he asked to speak with me in the back alley.
"You f***ing moron!" he screamed. "Are you retarded?" I was shocked, gob-smacked. No one had ever spoken to me like that. All the customers and staff could hear my husband through the open window, strafing me with his words.
A pattern began to unfold between Joe and me. I would do something that would make him angry and he would punish me. He would take off his wedding band and tell me it was staying off until I started acting properly (that is, doing exactly what he said). He would take away my credit card.
The news of my pregnancy seemed to soften Joe. For a while.
Two months into the pregnancy and five months into our marriage, I got the first taste of just how cruel my new husband could be. I was working a night shift with him, learning some of the ropes in the kitchen while Joe served, but when two meals were not done properly, Joe started yelling at me.
I am emotional by nature, but now I was pregnant with hormones raging. And, with the open kitchen, everyone could hear our exchange.
"Get out there!" Joe said. "You serve, and I'll cook!"
I was bawling, I was embarrassed, and I refused to wait on tables in that state, and oh, did that make him mad. At the end of the night, I cleaned up the kitchen and I walked out into the back alley. I was not going to wait for a ride with him; I was going to take the train home.
I got halfway down the alley when I heard Joe come up behind me. He grabbed me by my hair and sweater and he dragged me so forcefully I was choked and short of breath.
[Picture] MELISSA HAWACH WITH HER DAUGHTERS, HANNAH AND CEDAR, JUST 36 HOURS AFTER ARRIVING BACK IN CANADA FROM LEBANON.
He forced me back to the restaurant and shoved me against the shelves. He blocked the doorway, and I just said quietly "Get out of my way".
He would not move, and I just kept staring at him and repeating "Get out of my way".
Finally, he did, but as I passed he kicked me in the lower back and into the hood of his car parked in the alley. I got up and walked to the train station.
There were times when my husband would make no eye contact or say anything to me for weeks at a time. We argued in a cafe once, when I was six months pregnant with Hannah. Joe stormed out and drove off. With no money, I had to walk the 10km home along the highway. I kept thinking that Joe would cool off, reconsider, come back and give me a lift, but he never did. The walk home took me two hours.
FRIGHT AND FLIGHT
Hopeful they could make a fresh start, the couple sold their restaurant and moved with their new baby Hannah to Calgary, Canada, where Joe started a paper business. Despite attempts to save their marriage, Melissa and Joe separated after the birth of their second child, Cedar.
The separation was amicable, with the pair choosing to come to an arrangement themselves about assets and child access. So amicable, Melissa agreed Joe could take the girls home to Sydney for a three-week holiday. At first she had daily contact with the children, but two weeks into their trip, all contact ceased.
On July 19, 2006, after four days of frantic phone calls, Joe Hawach's brother Pierre finally admitted the truth: Joe had taken his children to Lebanon, and wasn't coming back.
In December, having exhausted all official and judicial channels, Melissa flew into Lebanon with her father. She had hired a security team who said they could reunite her with her children. After weeks of soul-searching, she sent the security team home, convinced such an action could traumatise her children and see herself arrested.
But the next morning two of the men, an Australian and New Zealander known to Melissa only as Brian and David, called her back offering her one last chance. "I feel like I have been given a gift from God," she said.
AT ABOUT 7AM, A COUPLE OF HOURS AFTER Brian's phone call, we went to the resort.
All of us, Brian, David and their two compatriots waited in a room for nine long hours watching old shows on television. It was a long, nervous day, but at 4.35pm my long wait ended.
One of the guys had been checking to see if Joe's rented vehicle, a brand-new black four-wheel-drive Suburban, had returned.
Now the news came that he had arrived, that Joe was hauling groceries in both arms and Hannah was struggling to close the back door of his vehicle. I watched as Hannah and Cedar came out to the little park at one end of the resort. They were wearing mismatched track-suits, their hair was unbrushed, and they looked dishevelled. They were walking towards the park with their two friends and the nanny.
I knew Joe's habits: He would be lying down on the bed, napping or watching TV.
As David and I walked up the spiral staircase to the sprawling park, I was calm and focused and clear. We took our time, even let 15 minutes pass. The men had told me: Stay calm. No running, no sudden movement. Nothing, they said, creates alarm like sudden movement.
Now we were five feet (1.5m) from the nanny. My focus was on Hannah, all on Hannah. Cedar, I knew, would follow her. "Hannie? Hannie?" I called out. She had this glazed look on her face. I was out of context, and six months had passed since she'd seen me. This was her mother all right, no question. But what was she doing here?
Then, pure instinct kicked in.
"Momma! Momma!" she cried out, and she ran straight at me and launched herself up into my outstretched arms. Now Hannah was in my arms, and Cedar was right behind her, calling my name.
I said, loud enough for the nanny to hear and hoping she would be confused by this, "Hey, guys. You're going to come with me for a bit. We'll talk to Daddy after."
I was carrying Hannah, not Cedar. Everything was casual.
We walked on, and at one point I wanted to switch the girls, put Hannah down to pick Cedar up. In lifting Cedar, my cell phone slid from my hip and hit the ground.
Nice and easy, David picked it up, and the four of us walked away. We were so casual. The nanny did nothing, said nothing, just stood there.
No doubt Joe had made no mention of their circumstances on the run. It must have seemed to this woman a perfectly ordinary thing. The girls' mother had come along and taken them for a walk. There were no tears. The kids were as good as gold, and they were so happy to see me.
It had been 174 days since I last hugged them. Everything we had planned for, had hoped for, all just came together at once. It was surreal, just surreal. What I did not feel was any sense of victory.
It was all so tentative, and at any moment, I knew the girls could be snatched from me.
One of the guys had stayed in the stairwell, acting as lookout.
Carrying Cedar and with Hannah holding my free hand, I and the two men now ran down the staircase, piled into the van with the tinted windows, and the van headed for the resort's exit.
The girls and I were tucked in low behind the bench seat.
After the guard lifted the long wooden security arm at the gate, we pulled away, but the guys in the back of the van eyed the gatehouse as we drove off.
Guards had come out, which they do not normally do, and one was writing down our licence plate. The alarm had sounded.
Two minutes later, as per the plan, some of us transferred into a sedan, a regular car without tinted windows.
I took to the back seat between Hannah and Cedar, scrunched down low so no one could see us.
We drove a long time, close to an hour, in gridlocked traffic.
Police cars would scream past with their sirens blaring, and we would all freeze.
[Picture] MELISSA AND JOSEPH HAWACH WITH
HANNAH WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER.
In the car, the girls and I played. I had water for them, and books, and old routines to call upon. For as long as we would remain in the Middle East (and I had no idea then how long that would be), I wanted things to stay light for the girls.
Whatever strains and stresses I would feel in days to come, I did not want them sharing my burden.
Finally, at dark, we arrived at our destination, the Hotel Alexandre.
Dad was crying, hugging the girls and everyone there. But I was all business. I wanted out of that parking lot, fast.
"We're good?" Brian asked me.
"We're good," I replied.
There had been no Blackhawk helicopter, no guns drawn, no commandos in fatigues, no grand escape.
But our departure had not gone unnoticed, as later that day we would discover.
Brian and David and their families would suffer terribly for the role they played in helping me (each spent three months in a Lebanese jail), and I dearly wish it were otherwise.
Till the day I die, I will be beholden to those two fathers who acted out of a father's instinct and no other.
They had put themselves at great risk to help me regain the girls.
Yet it was very much their decision and I was convinced no matter what happened they would never hold it against me.
Brian and David would have shared in my joy that day as I rode in the car and played with my daughters.
Now it was Joe's turn to be king-hit, to be taken by surprise.
The Hawach family never saw me coming, never dreamed I would parachute into their war-torn homeland, find the girls and simply call them to me.
Getting them was literally a walk in the park.
At that moment, even without knowing when and how we would ever get home, there was nowhere in the world that I would rather have been than in that vehicle with Hannah and Cedar.
I felt such pure joy in being with them, but I also felt almost sick to my stomach knowing that their father was now feeling the same pain and loss I had felt.
I would not wish that on anyone. –
Flight of the Dragonfly by Melissa Hawach is out on Wednesday, Aus. $35. Reprinted with permission of HarperCollins Publishers. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#mothers_mission_to
[KORAN: 4:34 (or 4:38).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Wealthy enough to hire a security team half a world away, but not clever enough to read a few truthful factual books about male-female relations in certain religions and cultures. Of course, the parents might not know of the book (1987) and film (1991) Not without my daughter by Betty MAHMOODY, who had married an Iranian, played by actress Sally Field. And we'll bet that no Curriculum Branch set it for Melissa's English Literature, Social Studies, Comparative Religion, or Film Appreciation classes!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[For Reading list entry, click: Reading # Flight of the Dragonfly]
[(Kidnap occurred ~ July 2006, rescue ~ Dec. 2006)
March 23, 2008]
Internet host suspends website for unreleased anti-Koran film, Fitna.
Internet host suspends website for unreleased anti-Koran film, Fitna
ReligionNewsBlog
www.religion newsblog.com/ 20927/fitna- movie ,
Item 20927, Posted Sunday, March 23, 2008
NETHERLANDS and UNITED STATES of AMERICA –
A website that a Dutch right-wing politician was planning to use to release a film expected to be fiercely critical of Islam has been suspended.
The US hosting service, Network Solutions, said it was investigating complaints that it may have breached guidelines on hate language.
Dutch politician Geert Wilders says the 15-minute film describes Islam as "the enemy of freedom".
The planned release has sparked angry protests in many Muslim countries.
The Dutch government has disassociated itself from Mr Wilders' views, but there are fears the film will spark protests similar to those that followed the publication in Denmark two years ago of cartoons seen as offensive to Muslims.
The film has already been condemned by several Muslim countries, including Iran and Pakistan.
Mr Wilders' film is entitled Fitna, an Arabic word used to describe strife or discord, usually religious.
Mr Wilders wrote a commentary in a Dutch newspaper on Saturday.
"The film is not so much about Muslims as about the Koran and Islam. The Islamic ideology has as its utmost goal the destruction of what is most dear to us, our freedom," he wrote in De Volkskrant [www.volks krant.nl].
"Fitna is the last warning for the West. The fight for freedom has only just begun," he said.
He had been using Network Solutions to promote the film.
But on Sunday, Network Solutions said it had received a number of complaints that were under investigation.
It said the site was suspended until it was established whether the content of the site violated Network Solutions' terms of acceptable use.
They include "material that is obscene, defamatory, libellous, unlawful, harassing, abusive– hate propaganda" and "profane, indecent or otherwise objectionable material of any kind or nature".
Mr Wilders has had police protection since Dutch director Theo van Gogh was killed by a radical Islamist in 2004.
– Original title: Dutch Islam film website 'shut' #
[LINK: Some of the scenes in the film seem to come from "Undercover Mosques" from UK Channel 4 Dispatches, reproduced at Submission Chronology 6 / Undercover Mosques Transcripts
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#internet_host_suspends
[Mar 23, 08]
Dutch Muslims offer to air anti-Quran film [i.e., anti-Koran film.]
Dutch Muslims offer to air anti-Quran film
ReligionNewsBlog
www.religion newsblog.com/ 20931/ fitna , Radio Netherlands, Netherlands, www.radio netherlands.nl , (posted on Religion News Blog Mar 24), March 23, 2008
AMSTERDAM – The Dutch Muslim Broadcasting organisation has offered Dutch populist MP Geert Wilders to air his planned anti-Qur'an film.
Mr Wilders has rejected the proposal. The network first wants to ascertain that Fitna does not violate any constitutional rights. The far-right politician says the demand is unacceptable.
The website where Mr Wilders intends to show the film has been shut by the provider after receiving complaints. The site went online in early March.
The US hosting service is investigating whether the site's content breaches company policies on hate speech. Mr Wilders says he intends to release the 15-minute film before the end of this month. Fitna is an Arabic word for strife or discord.
On Saturday, around 1300 people gathered in the centre of Amsterdam to protest against Mr Wilders' film and racism and discrimination in general. Mr Wilders has described Islam as "the enemy of freedom."
The turnout fell far short of the 5000 people expected by the organisers. The far-right politician called the protest a hate demonstration and said he was pleased by the poor turnout.
Technorati Tags (go to source webpage): Fitna, Geert Wilders, movie, anti-Koran, Quran, islam, islamism, islamic, muslim, muslims, islamic extremism #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#dutch_muslims_offer
[Mar 23, 08]
Smith condemns Bashir 'bigotry'.
Smith condemns Bashir ‘bigotry’
Australian Broadcasting Corporation,
www.abc.net. au/news/ stories/ 2008/03/24/ 2197836.htm ,
Monday, March 24, 2008
AUSTRALIA and INDONESIA –
The Federal Government has condemned comments Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir made about Western tourists during a sermon in Indonesia.
An Australian university student video-taped Bashir's sermon to around 300 people while he was in East Java last October.
Bashir can be heard calling Western tourists "worms, snakes and maggots". He calls on young Muslims to beat up tourists and urges them to die like martyrs.
He also said infidels such as Western tourists ruin moral values by exposing their skin at the beach.
Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith says the comments are full of the intolerance that has marked many of Bashir's previous speeches.
"These remarks, these reported remarks from a speech six months ago, contain all the familiar bigotry and they are absolutely condemned," he said.
Bashir was jailed for conspiracy over the 2002 Bali bombings, but his conviction was overturned and he was released from jail in 2006.
Tags (go to ABC webpage): religion-and-beliefs, islam, world-politics, australia, nt, darwin-0800, indonesia #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#smith_condemns_bashir
[ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: He also says infidels ruin moral values by exposing their skin at the beach. "Take a look at Bali", he said. -- ABC, "Bakar Bashir calls for violence against 'infidel' tourists," www.abc.net. au/news/ stories/ 2008/03/24/ 2197660.htm , March 24, 2008.
ENDS.]
[RECAPITULATION: Bashir … calls on young Muslims to beat up tourists and urges them to die like martyrs.
ENDS.]
[SUGGESTED CHANT:
Yes, you lead, Imam, and we will follow!
If you don't die first, your call is hollow!
As the tourists you do beat,
We will hold you on your feet.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Australia's response: Words, words, while millions of dollars flow for "third world assistance." Mr Smith's remarks are like his predecessor Mr Downer's in similar situations. But both support having more immigrants of similar culture to Mr Bashir, so they are just wind.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[TRADITION: (If there is time, some teachings about "showing skin," and insults to infidels, might be quoted here later.) Regular readers of this webspace know that violence against non-Muslims (and some Muslims, too) is urged in the sacred texts.
ENDS.]
[LOOK BACK: "Bali bombers wrong to target civilians: Bashir,"
Australian Broadcasting Corporation,
www.abc.net. au/news/ stories/ 2008/01/15/ 2139122.htm ,
Reuters, Tue Jan 15, 2008
ENDS.]
[ADMONITION: Except when governed by unreasonable doctrines, most people think that if it was right in October 2007's sermon to beat up Bali tourists, and to die like martyrs, how could it become wrong by January 2008 for the Bali bombers to target civilians? UNLESS, of course, if some "scholar" can convince Mudhead that "tourists" are not "civilians." Ah, now I see!
ENDS.]
[KORAN: 66:2:- Allah hath allowed you release from your oaths. … DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[(Sermon was October 2007), Mar 24, 08]
'Iraqis face Calvary'
‘Iraqis face Calvary’
The Record
(R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
Catholic News Service, By Simon Caldwell and Regina Linskey, Pages 1 and 3, Wednesday, March 26, 2008
English bishop says wartorn nation’s Christians undergoing their own
‘Via Crucis’ as Rahho letter comes to light
LONDON (CNS) – An English bishop asked Catholics in England and Wales to mark the fifth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq by praying for the Iraqi Christian community, which is "undergoing its own Calvary."
"In the midst of continuing conflict and instability we should all reflect on the lessons that need to be learned and ask how we can contribute to creating a better future for Iraq," said Bishop Crispian Hollis of Portsmouth, England, chairman of the Department of International Affairs of the Bishops' Conference of England and Wales.
[Picture] Archbishop Rahho
"Above all, we need to remember the people of Iraq as they struggle to rebuild their country," he said on March 18. "In particular, we ask you to hold in your prayers the Christian community.
He said the plight of Iraqi Christians had been "brought home with terrible force" by the February 29 abduction and subsequent killing of Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho of Mosul, Iraq.
Meanwhile, it has transpired that shortly before his death Archbishop Rahho had asked for prayers for Iraqi Chaldean Catholics and said he would be the last person to leave Mosul.
[Picture] Under threat: A woman receives Communion during an Easter Mass on March 23 at Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Baghdad, Iraq. PHOTO: CNS / THAIER AL-SUDANI, REUTERS
UK prelate warns Iraq’s Christians are going to their own Calvary
Continued from Page 1
"We are asking for your prayers to remove this cloud from our country and our Church," said Archbishop Rahho in a January 18 letter to the New York-based Catholic Near East Welfare Association. The letter, which the association sent to CNS on March 17, referred to a series of church bombings in Mosul in early January.
"We want to stay in our beloved land, despite the situation and the sufferings, especially after these last bombings," said Archbishop Rahho.
The Archbishop asked for support from the association and said that "as a result of immigration, violence, kidnappings, bombings and unemployment" the church's revenue had declined by more than 25 per cent.
However, Archbishop Rahho said the church provided "nonstop pastoral services for Chaldean families forced from Baghdad and other insecure areas" who had settled in villages in northern Iraq.
We do not want to close our churches or leave Mosul," Archbishop Rahho said.
He added, "Personally, I will be the last person to leave."
Archbishop Rahho, 65, was kidnapped on February 29 in an attack that left his driver and two bodyguards dead. The archbishop's body
was recovered on March 13 after the kidnappers told Catholic leaders in Iraq where he had been buried. His funeral was on March 14.
Conservative estimates put the Iraqi death toll at about 89,000 people, while 4.3 million have been displaced, including more than 600,000 Iraqi Christians. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#iraqis_face_calvary
[MUSLIMS OPPOSE CHRISTIANITY AND ITS PEOPLES: Well-instructed Muslims will NEVER show respect to Christians or Jews anywhere, because their scriptures tell Muslims to despise them as people who distorted the scriptures Allah allegedly gave them.
The Koran denies that God had a son 19:88-92 (or 19:91-93);
denies that Jesus was slain or crucified 4:157 (or 4:156);
and denigrates monastic life, saying the Christians invented it themselves and they are rebellious transgressors 57:27.
Muslim scriptures say that Jews and/or Christians are unclean and/or idolaters. The texts also say that Jews and those who "join other gods with God" hate the (Muslim) believers. Others ought to be killed if they do not convert to Islam, or be humbled as dhimmi and pay a special tax, the jizya.
Unless the Papal Court all agreed to spend every seventh year living and working in Muslim lands, the Vatican will keep up the "talk fests" which have been held, on and off, by various religious leaders for more than 1000 years. Some religions do not go to such talks – for very good reason.
A SECOND reason that the Iraqi Christians are hated by Arab Muslims there is that the Iraqi Christians are among the descendants of the ORIGINAL OWNERS of Iraq. They are like many "indigenous" peoples who are denigrated and subconsciously feared by the descendants of the conquerors, for fear they might ask for their country back.
A THIRD reason is that Muslims have developed a fantasy, which they run alongside the fantasy that all good people beforehand were Muslims, that before Mohammed's preaching was the "time of ignorance." Any non-Muslim prayerhouses and worshipping community (whether pagan, Jewish, Christian, or otherwise) that still exist from before the time of Mohammed are a constant thorn in the side of Muslims who want to believe that all was disorder and foul idolatry before the Prophet started dictating words in western Arabia. The Turk conqueror of Constantinople was an exception to the general rule – he turned the Hagia Sophia there into a mosque.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
9:31-32, 9:34-35
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[AMAZING TEXT -- MARY PART OF A TRINITY: But many Christians would be amazed at this supposedly "heavenly" conversation:
5:116:- And when Allah shall say– 'O Jesus, son of Mary: hast thou said unto mankind – "Take me and my mother as two Gods, beside God"?' He shall say – 'Glory be unto Thee! it is not for me to say that which I know to be not the truth; – ' "
This Website in April 2008 found out that an early breakaway Christian sect actually did teach a trinity composed of the Father, Mary, and the Son (Jesus). More powerful forces condemned and banned this teaching, but knowledge of this "heresy" presumably spread throughout the then-known world, including via the trade routes down to Arabia (which at that time included Christian and Jewish mini-nations). (Regarding the trinity theory, read the Religion section of this website to have pointed out that in the Christian scriptures Jesus prayed to "his Father," but never once to the supposed other person of the trinity, "the Holy Spirit," and the latter plays no part in the phantasmagorical Paradise described in the Book of Revelation / Apocalypse.)
he son of God 9:30
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/009. qmt.html# 009.030 >.
The Submission Study Unit would like scholars to e-mail if they have information as to whether any Jewish sect, including the ones with "Messiahs", ever taught such a doctrine. Nothing now would surprise the S.S.U.! And, the S.S.U apologises for posting these two "sons of God" claims as being "schoolboy howlers," and showing bad faith.
ENDS.]
[COALITION'S ABJECT FAILURE: Just read the last sentence again. "Mission accomplished" was the banner on the warship that BLUSH was shown on television telling the world in 2003 that the USA and UK forces had taken Iraq. The refugee figures of 4.3 million and the deaths (details hidden firstly by the Coalition, and in addition now by the Iraqi government) are not what decent people expected. But this week's reports that the Iraqi government has given the Mahdi Army of Imam Al-Sadr three days to hand in their weapons says more about the failure of the BLUSH - BLIAR - HOWODD policies than any words in print or on websites! The Coalition has had FIVE YEARS to bring his illegal murder gang to order, and the elected Iraqi Government has had months and months in office. If everyone in a culture is entitled to kill other people, no orderly governance is possible.
ENDS.]
[Mar 26, 08]
Dutch MP posts Islam film on web. [Anti-Koran film "Fitna"]
Dutch MP posts Islam film on web
ReligionNewsBlog
www.religion newsblog. com/20980/ fitna- movie-3 ,
BBC (UK), news.bbc.co.uk , March 27, 2008
NETHERLANDS –
Dutch right-wing politician Geert Wilders has posted a controversial film critical of Islam's holy book, the Koran, on the internet.
The opening scenes show a copy of the Koran, followed by footage of the attacks on the US on 11 September 2001.
The 15-minute film was posted on video-sharing website LiveLeak. [ www. liveleak. com ]
Its planned release had sparked angry protests in Muslim countries. The Dutch government has distanced itself from the views of Mr Wilders.
The film is called "Fitna", a Koranic term sometimes translated as "strife". Dutch broadcasters have declined to show it.
'Spiteful'
Graphic images from the bomb attacks on London in July 2005 and Madrid in March 2004 are also shown.
Scenes from a beheading and pictures of the Dutch director Theo van Gogh, who was murdered by a radical Islamist in 2004, are also included.
The film ends with someone turning pages of a Koran, followed by a tearing sound.
A text that appears on the screen says: "The sound you heard was from a page (being torn from a) phone book.
"It is not up to me, but up to the Muslims themselves to tear the spiteful verses from the Koran."
The film concludes: "Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom."
Two years ago the publication in Denmark of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad sparked protests across the Muslim world. #
To see film: Click: www.religion newsblog. com/20980/ fitna- movie-3
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#dutch_mp_posts
[KORAN:
3:83 (or 3:77):- Are they seeking a
religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?
– < www.submission. org/suras/ sura3.html #83 >.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[Mar 27, 08]
Muslim attacks forcing Jews out of Paris suburbs.
[Muslims chased them out of Algeria, and now Paris too]
Muslim attacks forcing Jews out of Paris suburbs
News Weekly (Melbourne, Australia), "As the World Turns,"
p 15, March 29, 2008
VILLEPINTE, France: Rabbi David Altabe looks older than his 27 years when he talks about the future of the Jewish community in this working-class suburb of Paris.
"We do what we can, but it's hard," he says. "I don't know why I stay. I ask myself that question all the time."
Over a period of just three years, roughly half the Jewish families in Villepinte have left. Some have gone to other suburbs or Paris neighborhoods considered safer for Jews; a few have left the country.
Of 300 families three years ago, only 150 remain today, community president Charly Hannoun estimates.
Villepinte's 4O-year-old synagogue, which was torched in 1991 and 2001, is at risk of closing because there are barely enough regulars for a minyan. Jewish community leaders are wondering if Jews have a future here.
"It's a whole history that's being erased," says Hannoun, who worked with contractors and friends to build the town's synagogue. "It's the end of the synagogue… "
Villepinte is one stark example of what is happening to many Jewish communities in the immigrant-heavy suburbs of the Seine-Saint-Denis region, north of Paris.
Scarred by the surge in anti-Semitism that swept through France between 2000 and 2005, roughly two-thirds of the mostly Sephardic Jews who once lived in these close-knit communities have left town.
Experts say the Jewish flight from the suburbs is changing the demographics of France's Jewish community and increasing the ghettoisation of Jews in the country.
All of France is experiencing the problem, says University of Paris sociologist Shmuel Trigano, the author of The Future of the Jews in France.
"It is a general shift, not a passing crisis," Trigano says.
"The Jewish community is becoming a ghetto. It is no longer a community of choice but a community of necessity. In a democracy that shouldn't happen."…
"They chased us from Algeria and they followed us here," Robert Sebbane, 8l, says of the North African Muslims responsible for much of France's anti-Jewish crime.
– "Muslim attacks forcing Jews out of Paris suburbs",
JTA: Jewish & Israel News (New York), March 12, 2008.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#muslim_attacks_forcing
[RECAPITULATION: Villepinte is one stark example of what is happening to many Jewish communities in the immigrant-heavy suburbs of the Seine-Saint-Denis region, north of Paris. [– ]
"They chased us from Algeria and they followed us here," Robert Sebbane, 8l, says of the North African Muslims responsible for much of France's anti-Jewish crime.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Oh, dear, that's a non-PC statement!
By the way, journalists, Arabs are Semites! So, many Muslims, even the ones from north-west Africa, probably due to rape and rapine have some Arab blood in them. "Anti-semitism" crimes from such people ought to be called "anti-Jewish". Just because the forerunners to the Nazis tried to turn their anti-Jewishness into a racial epithet, there is no need for educated 21st century people to do the same. The Nazis were happy to accept the anti-Jewish outpourings of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, during World War II.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
5:64 (or 5:69):- The Jews …revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their
obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them We have [= Allah has] placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. …
62:6:- Say to the Jews: 'If you claim that of all men you alone are God's friends, then you should wish for death, if what you say be true!' –
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura62.html #6 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
{Click:} Sahih Muslim's collection, 41:6985.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[Mar 29, 08]
ABC's take on Islamic school controversy.
ABC’s take on Islamic school controversy
News Weekly, www.news weekly. com.au , (Melbourne, Vic., Australia),
p 19, March 29, 2008
AUSTRALIA –
Earlier this year, I wrote a rather pessimistic article on the controversial proposal to build an Islamic school in Camden, a rural centre southwest of Sydney ("A stern test for multiculturalism", News Weekly, February 2, 2008).
On March 10, the very night that the Camden City Council was due to hand down its decision, Sally Neighbour reported on the controversy for ABC television's flagship current affairs program Four Corners.
Entitled "Dangerous Ground", the program commenced with Ms Neighbour's sonorous tones announcing: "One night in December, a crowd of close to a thousand farmers, business people, housewives and retirees converged on the Camden Civic Centre on the southwestern outskirts of Sydney. It was packed to overflowing and there was no turning them away.
"The issue that prompted the huge turnout was a planning application for a new school catering for 1,200 studeofs – not just any school, but a school for Muslims. And these residents weren't having a bar of it."
Unworthy
What followed was a program completely unworthy of the ABC. Of greatest concern was the overall impression conveyed by Ms Neighbour that somehow the average Australian of either gender is a racist redneck.
Pictures of the roiling crowd outside the Camden Council offices soon gave way to sympathetic interviews with members of the Islamic community who were concerned about the alienation of their youth and the concomitant proposition that this led almost irrevocably to radicalisation and the seductive allure of jihadist propaganda and recruitment to terrorist organisations.
We were presented with scenes in a gym of young men, probably of Middle Eastern extraction and Muslim, being trained for boxing. The tragedy was that the occupants were being forced to leave and had no obvious premises to which to move; but at no stage was a measured appraisal of the situation made from those opposed to the Islamic school.
Rather, in a cruel twist of fate, Four Corners showed that, after the Camden Council had turned down the proposal for the Islamic school, the next item on the agenda was favourable consideration for the licensing of a brothel.
And so it went on. Normal Australians appeared as foul-mouthed racist bigots, and inevitably archival film footage of the Cronulla riots of December 2005 was used to drive home this point.
Ignored was the fact that the vast majority of Australians are remarkably tolerant of migrants, and we have been spared so far the problems encountered in the UK, and increasingly in the US, with multiculturalism.
In the United Kingdom, political correctness, holds such sway that it is now official 'policy not to refer to terrorists as terrorists, but only as a category of criminals.
The security and police forces of this country, however, would be well advised to continue giving priority to monitoring terror suspects, and to distinguish this clearly from routine investigations of mere criminal activity.
The most disappointing aspect of Ms Neighbour's campaign to denigrate the majority of Australia's population was that she managed to rope in Dr David Wright-Neville, an associate professor at Monash University and deputy director of the Global Terrorism Research Centre, who waxed lyrical about alienation and the part it plays in the life of young Muslims, making them vulnerable to the siren call of extremists.
He was honest enough to admit that everybody experiences alienation in one form or another during their life; but the alienation of Muslim youth was depicted, rather crudely, with a simple diagrammatic sketch, which described stages through which young Muslims might pass from alienation from society and the mainstream culture
– sometimes even from their families
– through to a point of susceptibility to radicalisation.
What he did not say, and what Ms Neighbour did not see fit to include, was the impact of fundamentalist Muslim clerics and their firebrand preaching on young Muslims. (Nor, for that matter, were any stories of successful immigration and integration mentioned– ).
[Picture] Sally Neighbour
This episode of Four Corners lacked any balance. It also manifestly failed to acknowledge the asymmetry between Australian society
and Musjim countries. Freedom of religion is common to Western society in general, but the same cannot be said of the vast majority of countries where Islam holds sway.
In some of these countries Christians are tolerated, such as the Coptic Christians in Egypt and the declining Orthodox communities across the Middle East. However, in many of them, Christians are forbidden to erect churches or proselytise, and most of their activities are circumscribed by the very nature of Islamic society. There is no multiculturalism in Islam.
By its very nature, multiculturalism is a divisive policy and cannot be counted as a success anywhere that it has been tried. Countries with large unintegrated migrant communities are riven by strife, both inter- and intra-communal; and where there is a definite lack of national identity, such as in Australia – a relatively young country – the fracture lines in our community are all too apparent.
– John Miller is a former senior intelligence
officer.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#abcs_take_on
[RECAPITULATION: In some of these countries Christians are tolerated, such as the Coptic Christians in Egypt –
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Well, well! They are not "tolerated," really, because for centuries the Muslims have been chipping away -- an outrage here, an atrocity there. It would be better not to say the "declining" Orthodox Christians in the Middle East – they have been getting ground down for centuries, as well as the Judaists, and were right from the time of Mohammad.
However, it is pleasing to see that this magazine – a monthly these days – is not fooled by the misinformation campaign of Muslim apologists. Of course, the magazine was never fooled for long by the original "Political Correctness" salesmen and saleswomen, largely because they saw that the PC people wanted to stop Catholics and other Christians teaching their children that abortion was forbidden by the moral law, and have been beavering away for years to stop taxpayers' funds going to schools or hospitals with such pro-life policies.
However, this magazine still has a way to go before it sees that its pro-immigration and allied policies are, obviously, going to fill Australia with more and more people with leaders who have a strong wish to take over the lawmaking, and change the very nature of Australia. Public beheadings every Friday and the introduction of slavery from one group of migrants, burning widows from one group, or public firing squads and a brisk sale in body parts from another.
The author very rightly writes: "There is no multiculturalism in Islam." Click the links given below and ask if these statements are preaching hatred. (This is why the terrorist groups actually make DVDs of themselves murdering people, complete with their death cries. This is a macabre blend of "otherworldly" commands and modern technology.)
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
4:76 (or 4:78);
5:51 (or 5:56);
8:12;
62:6.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's collection, Vol. 2, Bk. 19, No. 173;
Bukhari's, 9, 84:58;
Sahih Muslim's 19:4450.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[LINK/S: Undercover Mosques: The Transcripts, Channel 4: Dispatches, Jan 15, 2007
< http://mpacuk. org/content/ view/3266/ 34/ >,
ENDS.]
[Mar 29, 08]
Threats kill anti Islam film. [Britain has violent followers of a "religion."]
Threats kill anti Islam film
The Sunday Times (Perth, W. Australia),
p 38, Sunday, March 30, 2008
THE HAGUE: Internet site LiveLeak.com says it has withdrawn the anti-Islam film
Fitna by far-right Dutch MP Geert Wilders after threats to its staff.
"Following threats of a very serious nature, and some ill-informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liiveleak.com has been left with no other choice, but to remove Fitna from our servers," the British-based site said yesterday.
"This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net, but we have to place the safety and wellbeing of our staff above all else.
"We would like to thank the thousands of people, from all backgrounds and religions, who gave us support.
"We stood for what we believe in, the ability to be heard, but in the end the price was too high."
Mr Wilders said it was "terrible that these threats deal a serious blow to freedom of expression" but he understood the decision to withdraw the short film.
Fitna can still be seen on other websites, including youtube.com. [ www. youtube. com ] #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#threats_kill_anti
[KORAN:
2:193 (or 2:189):- …Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #193 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Muslim's 19:4450.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[Mar 30, 08]
K. Rudd's Fetish for Political Persecution -- Soviet Style.
K. Rudd’s Fetish for Political Persecution – Soviet Style
News Release, ce said to me that the measure of a man can be determined by his ability to take criticism.
Naturally this speaks volumes when one views the tactics and behavior exhibited by dictatorial and totalitarian leaders and their regimes. Leaders who tolerate no criticism, no opposing position on any issue- such dissent is to be hounded into silence, prosecuted under oppressive laws stifling freedom of speech and expression.
Welcome to life in Australia 2008. Socialist governments from coast to coast and an emboldened internationalist multiculturalist lobby growing fat, arrogant and ever more dangerous on the taxes of Australian workers.
Perhaps a little over dramatic?
The Australian Protectionist Party [www.protect ionist.net], a progressive patriotic party in existence in our nation today, has come to the attention of that government department known as the "Human Rights and Equal Opportunities Commission". Equal opportunity, except in the area of free speech and open discussion for Australians.
This body acts as little more than a government agency (as in the same manner as the Soviet KGB), they use their position to intimidate and bully those whose position on issues affecting the nation's future is at odds with those held by their paymasters.
So, what exercise in horrendous racial vilification are the Australian Protectionists (and according to the Human Rights Commission, the National Chairman, Andrew Phillips) supposed to have carried out, thereby falling foul of our open minded regime led by a power mad Sinophile who claimed he intended to govern for ALL Australians?
A complaint has been lodged by a government employee of yet another dictatorial social engineering department located in WA. Apparently this person is of Islamic Arab persuasion and had a leaflet she claims to be from the Protectionists sent to her by a friend "for her interest".
So, the leaflet, available on the internet for anyone to download, was put into a friend's letterbox and sent to the complainant for her interest.
Apparently the poor woman was so outraged and offended at receiving the leaflet, 90% of which consisted of reprinted tracts of the utterances of the Prophet Mohammed, that she began making abusive and threatening phone calls to the WA branch (as if they had put the leaflet into her box) and then lodged a confused and bitter complaint against the Party with Krudd's Thought Police.
Despite claiming the desire to "negotiate" and "have all leafleting and activities cease", the true motivation of both the plaintiff and the Human Rights Thought Police are much darker than they would have us all believe.
The plaintiff apparently shrieked at Australian Protectionists that "you'll all be going to gaol for SEVEN years" (hmmm, doesn't sound very conciliatory now, does it?), while the Thought Police sent out interesting extracts from the Racial Vilification Laws which truly set out how oppressive our system really is.
The law states that Australians are free to believe whatever they wish (sounds quite reasonable, doesn't it?) in private.
Apparently one falls foul of the law once "one causes words, sounds, images or writing to be communicated to the public" or "is done in the sight or hearing of people who are in a public place".
Perhaps this does not sound too much like a One Party State in practice, but let us look deeply at what they're REALLY saying here.
A group of reasonable, patriotic Australians who are naturally law abiding wish to discuss a contentious issue such as say, immigration and national identity.
Not wanting to fall foul of the law, one of them decides to hold a meeting to discuss the issue in the privacy of his own home, or hires a small hall so people can discuss their concerns in private.
At what point does the transmission of an "offensive personal point of view" attracting "7 years gaol" to the public really take place? As with all dictatorial systems, a public meeting is deemed to take place once 3 or more people are gathered together in one place.
All it takes is for one person to disagree with a point of discussion in a room containing 3 or more people, lodge a complaint -- and you have broken the law. Perhaps a journalist has heard of this quiet meeting and chosen to invite themselves along?
There you have it. All patriotic Aussies are entitled to their own opinions in our "free and democratic land", just as it should be. Just don't ever get the idea of meeting with like minded people, forget about raising issues of importance for discussion by your fellow Australians and absolutely forget about ANY idea of forming a political movement to represent your wishes.
George Orwell would be proud.
Regardless of these developments, the Australian Protectionist Party leadership are committed to standing firm against the actions of a dictatorial government and their globalist cronies. APP is devoted to the task of speaking out for Australians on ALL issues, be they the threats to Aussie manufacturing jobs, the attempts to drive our farmers off their land and endanger the viability of our primary industry through cheap imports, attacks on the biological integrity of our land through lowered quarantine standards, the actions of social engineers in our education system instructing our children to loathe their own identity and culture, immigration and the threat to freedom of speech which has long been treasured by Aussies and a gift to the nation by our founders -- a gift paid for with the blood of diggers on foreign battlefields.
As in the past, there is a renewed effort to deny Australians their right to freedom of speech and self determination. Members of the Protectionist Party and the Party's National Committee will be resisting any attempts to deny Australians their right to discuss issues of national interest and deny us the tradition of questioning the dubious actions and motivations of remote and disinterested governments.
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever"- George Orwell, 1984.
Australia, it's YOUR country, protect what is left for future generations.
Australian Protectionism - the ONLY way forward.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#krudds_fetish_for
[COMMENT: If the Human Rights Commission reacted as it did, that is no cause to blame Prime Minister Kevin Rudd (Labor), who has only been in office since November-December 2007. Admittedly, State and Territory Governments, all Labor controlled, have been passing these "gagging" laws -- but the responsibility is not with Mr Rudd, even if he approves such attacks on one of the Atlantic Charter's points -- Freedom of Speech. Whoever wrote the above (still not clear to the Webmaster at the time of it being prepared for display on the WWW), ought to have his output checked by two or three senior people, to avoid making remarks that are not correct.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Nick Maine's website, www.nick maine.info . This material may be copied or passed on. To go on his mailing list, request at nmaine@ bigpond. net.au . ENDS.]
[Mar 30, 08]
Dialogue with Islam: planning to fail? Pure Islamism is 'theoretically bankrupt,' and 'politically impossible.'
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
by Dr Paul Stenhouse, pp 3-4, March 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 3-4 MARCH 2008
Editorial
Pure Islamism is 'theoretically bankrupt,' and 'politically impossible'
DIALOGUE WITH ISLAM: PLANNING TO FAIL?
By Paul Stenhouse, MSC, PhD
OVER THE PAST few weeks much has been said and written about recent comments on Islamic
Shari‘a, by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Williams.
In none of the comments on the Archbishop's speech, was there any unequivocal indication given by the people expressing opinions that they really understood either the comprehensive power [or 'jurisdictional'] claims made by
Shari‘a, or the nuances inherent in
Shari‘a, which is the very 'nucleus' of Islam.
1
Three Catholics Murdered
Chaldean Archbishop Kidnapped
POPE BENEDICT XVI [Ratzinger] urged the release of the Chaldean Catholic Archbishop of Mosul who was abducted by gunmen today in the northern Iraqi city. AsiaNews reported that Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho had just left Mosul's Holy Spirit Cathedral when he was kidnapped in the al-Nour district in the eastern section of the city. Three people who accompanied him were killed.
"Gunmen opened fire on the car, killed the other three and - kidnapped the Archbishop," a Mosul police official told Reuters.
The Holy See's note added: "Saddened by this new abominable act, which profoundly affects all of the Church in the country, and in particular the Chaldean Church, the Pope expresses his closeness to the patriarch, Cardinal Emmanuel III Delly, and all of the afflicted community, as well as the relatives of the victims.
"The Pontiff invites the universal Church to unite in fervent prayer so that reason and compassion prevail in the kidnappers and Archbishop Rahho is given back as soon as possible to his flock," Bishop Rabban al-Qas of Arbil told AsiaNews:
"The bishop is in terrorist hands, but we don't know in what physical state. The three men who were with him, including his driver, were killed. "It is a terrible moment for our Church. Please, pray for us."
|
Two crucial issues among many that affect the assimilation of Muslims into non-Muslim democratic societies continue to elude protagonists at all levels of the political and religious spectrum.
Firstly, the Archbishop and some of his critics appear to assume that the
Shari‘a of Islam is religious law; and that fatwas emanating from
Shari– a courts would affect only questions of a religious nature - garb, dietary laws, prayers, religious obligations, pilgrimages, training of imams, defining sins etc.
The reality is otherwise. What we are witnessing, in essence, is a flexing of legal muscles brought about by competing jurisdictional claims made by two systems of civil laws: those governing Western democratic societies {in this instance, British law} and those civil/religious/social laws that govern Islamic societies. These laws are called
Shari– a.
Islamists are seeking, quite literally, to live {and have other Muslims live} under
Shari– a rather than under British Law. Only one of these competing systems can be supreme.
The Archbishop recognizes that there is a problem but seems unaware of the danger of ceding jurisdiction to a group of Islamic
Shari– a scholars who deny that compliance with
Shari– a is optional.
Western legislators who dabble with
Shari– a in the hope of assisting assimilation of Muslims into a secular political society ruled by civil law are digging a grave for Democracy.
Political Islam and religious Islam are co-extensive. The one heterogeneous reality to which both terms refer, and from which they draw their inspiration and strength, is called
Shari– a. To see the question as one of religious law {Islamic} and civil law {Western countries} is to miss the point. Laws of a political, juridical and religious nature are 'absolutely similar from the Muslim point of view'.
'The
Shari– a' however, 'is not "Law" in the modern sense of the word, any more than it is, on account of its subject matter. It comprises without restriction, as an infallible doctrine of duties, the whole of the religious, political, social, domestic and private life of those who profess Islam [my emphasis], and the activities of the tolerated members of other faiths as far as they may not be detrimental to Islam'.
2
The West is dealing with contradictory, opposed and apparently irreconcilable political systems. Islam is not some routinely familiar religion - or even an exotic religion - with a political face. Islam is an intricate political system with a religious face.
UK Police, the Qur’an and Shari– a
POLICE WILL BE trained on the importance of the Koran and Sharia law to Muslims under Government plans to tackle extremism. Lessons in the Islamic faith and culture will become part of the formal training for recruits. – But critics expressed concern that the plan could foster division, rather than combat it.
It comes after the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, said the adoption of certain aspects of Sharia law in the UK "seems unavoidable". He later said his remarks had been misinterpreted.
Shadow Home Secretary David Davis added: "Of course it is sensible for the police to have an understanding of the Koran and Sharia law as long as we do not allow the situation to slip so that Sharia law is regarded on an equal basis with British law. British law is and always must be pre-eminent." –
Police will not have to learn the "depth and complexity" of Sharia law but would be expected to understand Islamic culture.
But critics have described the plan as "politically correct thinking". Philip Davies, Conservative MP for Shipley, said: "Police officers are not there to implement sharia law. They are there to implement British law. This idea is misguided. We will only get community cohesion when everybody signs up to being British and following British law."
– 'Bobbies will be taught sharia law and the Koran in "secret" plan to counter terror at local level' James Slack, London Daily Mail, March 1, 2008
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Prosecuting war, regulating the market place, raising taxes, settling law - all these took place (at least in theory) under the legitimizing penumbra of the caliph's authority (in formative Islam) or, later, that of the law (the shari– a), which he safeguarded.
3
If politics is a complex science in the 21st century West, should we be surprised to discover that it is more complex and even more multi-faceted in Islam, a way of life still firmly rooted in the 7th - 10th centuries? Should we be surprised to find that political Islam on the ground makes no bones about the centrality of violence in its political process?
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Secondly, where 'conflicts' arise
between the views of non-Islamic and Islamic communities on the nature and role of civil law {e.g., as I write, in the UK, Holland, some Scandinavian countries and France, to mention but a few} then any discussion of issues arising from them must take into account the existence of non-negotiable factors within Islam. These non-negotiable factors exist in all political systems, and, understandably, in all religions.
Shari– a {for Sunnis, especially of the Hanbali/Wahhabi/Salafi persuasion},
5 has been locked in a time warp since the fourth century of the Muslim era. This is because of their belief that the infallible
Ijma' {the most important foundation of
Shari– a} ceased upon the death of the
mujtahidun - the early Muslim founders of legal schools authorized to pass judgements binding on Muslims.
There is as well a general belief among Sunnis that the right of
IjtihÄd in Islam {finding a solution to legal problems from first principles} no longer exists.
6 Protagonists of this view see
Shari– a as set in concrete, and oppose all change. What is required of the believer is
taklid or unquestioning acceptance of the decision of the approved schools.
History teaches us that attempts by non-Muslims to dialogue with Muslims without {1} recognizing the all-pervasive political nature of Islamic
Shari– a, and without {2} identifying beforehand which constitutive elements of Islam are
non-negotiable are, it seems to me - and it must also seem thus to all Muslims who are alert - a sign of weakness, and doomed to fail.
Also doomed to fail are attempts by non-Muslim societies to avoid provoking radical Islamists by caving in to them. Compromise will lead inevitably to further demands. And if these be not met, then intimidation and violence will result.
Shari– a and Violence
WHEN YOU MEET unbelievers {Arabic words} behead them {Arabic words} until you have made much slaughter amongst them {Arabic words}. Then shackle them with tight fetters. After that it will be time either for benevolence or the payment of ransom.
– Qur'an, Sura 47:4
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What is needed is encouragement by Western democracies of open, frank, across the board and non-intimidatory debate by Muslims on controverted politico-religious elements within the
Shari'a. This would be a
conditio sine qua non for Muslims who wish to do so to be able to assimilate into a genuinely civil society where disputes are settled by intellectual debate and the ballot box, and not by resorting to violence.
The Archbishop's talk,
Civil and Religious Law in England: a Religious Perspective, was influenced by Tariq Ramadan's Western Muslims and the Future of Islam, a book the Archbishop described as 'groundbreaking'.
Dr Williams is in dubious company. Tariq Ramadan, grandson of the founder of the
Muslim Brothers and of the modern Islamist movement, has also been praised as 'the future of Islam' by Hassan al Turabi the controversial Sudanese Islamist.
7 For almost four decades al Turabi - a friend of Usama bin Laden and Abu Nidal - has dominated and had a malign influence on Sudanese Islamism.
The West and the non-Islamic world generally are not well served by politicians, bureaucrats, media and non-Islamic religious spokesmen whose ignorance would condemn us all, non-Muslims and Muslims alike, to a grim future.
Others who know recognize that so-called pure Islamism, with its 'divinely sanctioned violence' as a means of bringing about God's reign on earth, is 'theoretically bankrupt, and politically impossible'.
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1. Shorter Encyclopaedia of Islam, H.A.R.Gibb and J.H.Kramers, eds, Leiden, E.J.Brill, 1974, 'Shari– a' p. 525.
2. ibid.
3. Chase F. Robinson, Islamic Historiography, Cambridge University Press, 2003, p.128
4. Islamism and Its Enemies in the Horn of Africa, Alex de Waal ed, Shama Books, Addis Ababa, 2004, p.24
5. Though the Wahhabis, loosely identified with puritan Hanbalis {Ibn Hanbal died 855 AD}, theoretically accept only Ijma' from the time of the
AshÄb or 'Companions' i.e the first generation of Muslims.
6. By around 900 AD the 'Gate of IjtihÄd' had been closed, because it was held that all essential questions had been discussed and there was no one with the necessary qualifications for independent reasoning in law. See J. Schacht, 'Idjtihad,' Encyclopaedia of Islam {Electronic ed.}.
7. ' – although Turabi speaks of persuasion, perseverance and other peaceful means to propagate Islam, he does not rule out force, as is implicit in his statement that if peaceful means fail, "you storm through using other means until you reach the people." – Mahmood Ibrahim, reviewing The Making Of An Islamic Political Leader: Conversations With Hassan Al-Turabi, by Mohamed Elhacmi Hamdi, Boulder, CO., 1998, in Al-Jadid, vol.4, No.25, Fall, 1998.
8. Islamism and Its Enemies in the Horn of Africa ed. cit.,
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[COMMENT: Dr Stenhouse, having learnt enough Arabic to translate a landmark book from that language, and understanding the difficulty of dealing with people who translate "sharia" into the English word "law," and so on, deserves more backing from genuine reformers.
In Western Australia, too (reported January 14, 2006), "political correctness" decided that police of the Sikh faith could wear a turban, and Islamic policewomen could have loose tunics (a good idea, really). The Commissioner, no doubt pressed by the Libertarian Party, sorry, Labor Party Government in WA, met some resistance to this idea. He never said a word about the Sikh religion requiring men to carry a knife and to wear soldier's shorts, nor about the Muslim religion's current leaders ordering that any blasphemer be killed on the spot by the nearest Muslim. Fatwas to that effect have been issued against the Pope. For supporting a blasphemer by knighting him, the Queen was another person sentenced to death.
Would pious members of Islam be willing to wholeheartedly undertake normal detective and police work if such an assassination were carried out? The Pope will be in Sydney in a few weeks, and the Queen or other Royals come periodically, so the question is not without an Australian element.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[RECAPITULATION: Also doomed to fail are attempts by non-Muslim societies to avoid provoking radical Islamists by caving in to them. Compromise will lead inevitably to further demands. And if these be not met, then intimidation and violence will result.
ENDS.]
[KORAN:
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7):- When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters. And afterwards let there either be free dismissals or ransomings –
<www. submission. org/suras/ sura47. html#4>
47:35 (or 47:37):- Be not fainthearted then; and invite not the infidels to peace when ye have the upper hand –
AND study 8:15-16 starting at
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/008. qmt.html #008.015 >.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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Convert or die.
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by John Newton and John Pontifex, p 16, March 2008
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Islam
Heightening of intolerance and hatred of Christians in Pakistan
CONVERT OR DIE
By John Newton and John Pontifex
PAKISTAN'S leading Catholic prelate has called on the new government to crack down on extremists after warning, of a rise in militant groups which threaten to kill Christians if they do not convert to Islam.
In a statement coinciding with last week's presidential elections, Archbishop Lawrence Saldanha of Lahore described the growing "hatred and intolerance" of groups who, he said, were contravening Pakistan's constitution by trying to force Christians to turn to Islam.
Archbishop Saldanha, President of the Catholic Bishops' Conference of Pakistan, highlighted the case of a young Catholic father of four who was kidnapped and threatened with death.
The kidnapping followed his promotion to bank manager, which is said to have sparked jealousy among his colleagues.
During his captivity, last month, the banker, whom the Archbishop calls Haroon, was ordered to phone his wife and tell her that he would be killed if she dared to inform the police.
Mr Haroon, from Narang, 30 miles north of Lahore, in Pakistan's northeastern Punjab Province, only escaped after his captors left him unguarded one morning.
By then, he had been moved to a number of different locations, finally ending up in a farmhouse 300 miles from Lahore in the south of the province.
His kidnappers, Jamaat-ul-Dawah, have been branded a terrorist organisation by the UK, Pakistan and other countries.
Stressing how religious freedom is enshrined in Pakistan's constitution, Archbishop Saldanha called on the government to crack down on extremism.
[Picture] Archbishop Lawrence Saldanha examines the remains of a presbytery in Sangla Hill destroyed during extremist violence.
He wrote: "Haroon's story illustrates a new trend that underlines the difficulties and pressures of living in a land where extremism is growing and there is little tolerance for people who are non-Muslims.
"Especially Christians who live in remote and isolated towns are vulnerable. Here the level of hatred and intolerance is even more intense.
"Fortunately Haroon is an educated man and strong in his Catholic faith. He was able to resist his attackers."
The Archbishop described how after his escape from captivity, Mr Haroon managed to reach the main road and take a bus to town where he found his way to a Catholic mission station.
In the message, sent from his office in Lahore, Archbishop Saldanha goes on to describe the plight of Christian girls who are abducted and forced to marry Muslim boys and change their religion.
These events follow warnings issued by Archbishop Saldanha last May that Muslim extremists were now trying to force Christians to convert by threatening violence.
In an interview with Aid to the Church in Need, the Archbishop highlighted a case in which about 500 Christians had received anonymous letters warning of violent retribution if mass conversion to Islam did not follow within 10 days.
At the time, Archbishop Saldanha said: "It distresses us that Christians are threatened in an attempt to force them to convert to Islam. This is something that has never happened before."
He added, "We Christians are citizens, just like everyone else, and wish to have the same rights."
Helping Christians in Pakistan is a priority for Aid to the Church in Need {ACN}, where annually the charity provides nearly £400,000 to support key projects - seminarians, sisters, catechists and religious education literature (bibles and catechisms) in the national tongue Urdu and provincial languages.
After the violence unleashed following the 2006 prophet Mohammed cartoon controversy, ACN offered support for repairs to churches and other buildings which were fire-bombed.
The charity also helped increase security at Christ the King Major Seminary in Karachi after they were warned of a possible attack by Islamic extremists.
Directly under the Holy See, Aid to the Church in Need [ACN| supports the faithful wherever they are persecuted, oppressed or in pastoral need.
ACN is a Catholic charity - helping to bring Christ to the world through prayer, information and action. It works in about 145 countries throughout the world. Since the initiative's launch in 1979, 45 million ACN Child's Bibles have been distributed worldwide.
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[RECAPITULATION: "Haroon's story illustrates a new trend that underlines the difficulties and pressures of living in a land where extremism is growing and there is little tolerance for people who are non-Muslims.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: It is NOT a "new trend." Before the British won on the Indian peninsula, persecutions of non-Moslems had burst forth every few years. Archbishop Saldanha ought to read some history books, starting with the Moslem invasions. The sad path of Pakistan has been detailed in the book A People Betrayed, available at Christian bookshops.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
5:54 (or 5:59),
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
2, 23:414.
TRADITION ENDS.]
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Knowing the enemy. Confronting terror. Intellectual and Moral Rot undermining High Places
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By Andrew Bostom, pp 28-30, March 2008
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Confronting terror
Intellectual and Moral Rot undermining High Places
KNOWING THE ENEMY
By Andrew Bostom
B ILL GERTZ,
Washington Times national security columnist, reports (4/1/08) that the Pentagon has fired Stephen Coughlin, its most knowledgeable specialist on Islamic Law, and jihad terrorism. As Gertz observed aptly, the Pentagon thus ended the career of its most effective analyst attempting to prepare the military to wage ideological war against jihadism.
This past September, 2007, I lectured with Mr. Coughlin, a US Army Reserves Major, at The Naval War College, and witnessed his brilliant,
tour de force presentation which elucidated the reliance of contemporary jihadism on Islamic Law. Coughlin demonstrated meticulously that "
Jihad fi Sabil Allah" – "Jihad in the cause of Allah," is the animating principle which underlies the threat of global jihad terrorism, and how this understanding should form the basis for rational, effective threat development assessment, and war planning.
That Coughlin's analyses would even be considered "controversial," or worse still lead eventually to his firing
– perhaps, as Gertz strongly suggests, at the behest of a Muslim aide, Hesham Islam, within the office of Deputy Defence Secretary Gordon England – is pathognomonic of the intellectual and moral rot plaguing our efforts to combat global jihadism.
There is no evidence that Mr. Islam – distinctly unlike Mr. Coughlin – has any specific expertise on the theory or historical practice of jihad; indeed Gordon England's Egyptian Muslim aide is touted for his public relations skills – a sort of English-speaking Muslim Dragoman to the global Islamic umma. According to Deputy Secretary England,
Hesham {Islam} helps me understand people's different
perspectives and how they see things. He has a cultural background that's very helpful, but he also works at it very hard to get a better understanding of people and how they think.
Coughlin's reasoned conclusions simply update and complement, exquisitely, what serious scholars of jihad have long argued about revivalist movements throughout Islamic history. For example, forty years ago (in 1967), John Ralph Willis observed regarding the 19th century jihadist movements in West Africa, specifically, and such historical movements in general,
The jihad – is essentially an instrument of revival, employed for the purpose of extending the frontiers of Islam and leading the faithful back to roots. And it is not insignificant that the faithful, being in essence conservative, have been as susceptible to the summons of revivalists as they have been insensitive to the activity of reformists.
Stephen Coughlin's modern predicament is eerily similar to what befell another courageous, unabashed American patriot, William Eaton, two hundred years ago, during our nation's first encounter with jihad terrorism. "Victory in Tripoli," Joshua London's compelling narrative of America's initial conflict with jihadists – the Barbary wars – highlights, appositely, William Eaton's experiences. Eaton's triumphs and travails during his tenure as consul to Tunis (1799-1803), and later U.S. naval agent to the Barbary states, mirrored those of the young American nation he served.
Born on February 23, 1764 in Woodstock, Connecticut, the highly intelligent and strong-willed Eaton, when 16 years old, ran away from home, subsequently lying about his age to join Washington's Continental Army. He rose to the rank of sergeant in the Continental Army, which he served until 1783. Eaton graduated Dartmouth in 1790, and in 1791 was chosen clerk of the Massachusetts House of Delegates, where he remained until 1797, while he also served (beginning in 1792) the U.S. Army as both a fighter and negotiator during the frontier campaigns against the American Indians. Later, Eaton assisted then Secretary of War Timothy Pickering's espionage/treason investigations.
Hellenized Aramaic and Iranian Culture
What we therefore call "Arab civilization" was Arabian neither in its origins and fundamental structure nor in its principal ethnic aspects.
The purely Arabian contribution in it was in the linguistic and to a certain extent in the religious fields.
Throughout the whole period of the caliphate the Syrians, the Persians, the Egyptians and others, as Moslem converts or as Christians and Jews, were the foremost bearers of the torch of enlightenment and learning just as the subjugated Greeks were in their relation to the victorious Romans.
The Arab Islamic civilization was at bottom the Hellenized Aramaic and the Iranian civilizations as developed under the aegis of the caliphate and expressed through the medium of the Arabic tongue.
– Philip Hitti, History of the Arabs from the Earliest times to the Present, Macmillan 1968, p. 174.
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When Pickering became Secretary of State, he chose Eaton to serve as U.S. consul to Tunis, initially under President John Adams.
Eaton's consular journal recorded these brutally honest and comical impressions of his first diplomatic encounter (on February 22, 1799) with Dey Bobba Mustafa of Algiers, which would make the craven State Department mandarins of today, wince:
– we took off our shoes and entering the cave (for so it seemed), with small apertures of light with iron gates, we were shown to a huge, shaggy beast, sitting on his rump upon a low bench covered with a cushion of embroidered velvet, with his hind legs gathered up like a tailor, or a bear.
On our approach to him, he reached out his forepaw as if to receive something to eat. Our guide exclaimed, "Kiss the Dey's hand!"
The consul general bowed very elegantly, and kissed it, and we followed his example in succession. The animal seemed at that moment to be in a harmless mode; he grinned several times, but made very little noise.
Having performed this ceremony, and standing a few moments in silent agony, we had leave to take our shoes and other property, and leave the den without any other injury than the humility of being obliged in this involuntary manner, to violate the second commandment of God and offend common decency.
Can any man believe that this elevated brute has seven kings of Europe, two republics, and a continent tributary to him when his whole naval force is not equal to two line-of-battle ships? It is so.
Despite such inauspicious beginnings, and the institutionalized Barbary corruption Eaton found so repugnant to his person, and nation, his negotiations eventually secured U.S. commercial interests (at least a temporary) immunity from the attacks of Tunisian corsairs.
Eaton agonized over the gulf between the enormous potential and depressing reality of the Barbary states. He admired the Mediterranean coast of Tunis, "– naturally luxuriant and beautiful beyond description– I know not why it might not vie with the opposite continent in every thing useful, rich, and elegant", yet despaired of the stultifying religio-political institutions which arrested the region's progress.
A Different Perspective on the Crusades
STILL more striking is the case of the Crusades. For two centuries the Muslims of the Middle East were in intimate if hostile contact with groups of Franks established among them - yet they do not seem to have developed the least interest in them.
As Professor Gabrieli has pointed out, 'the Muslims, unlike the Christians, did not regard the Crusades as something separate and distinctive, nor did they single out the Crusaders from the long series of infidel enemies whom from time to time they fought'.
The chroniclers report in detail the smallest skirmishes between Muslims and Prankish troops - but they have little to say about the internal affairs of the Prankish states in the Levant and even less about their countries of origin.
The omission is the more remarkable in that the geographers and cosmographers have some information, mostly derived from western Muslim sources, about the Franks and their countries.
Yet with one or two minor exceptions, the historians of Islam made no attempt to relate their narrative of the Syrian wars to this information, to trace the invaders back to their countries of origin, or to inquire into the mighty yet invisible movement that had launched them.
– Bernard Lewis, Islam in History, Open Court, 1993
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Ultimately, Eaton concluded that Islam itself, certainly as practised in Barbary, was the source of this backwardness:
Considered as a nation, they are deplorably wretched, because they have no property in the soil to inspire an ambition to cultivate it. They are abject slaves to the despotism of their government, and they are humiliated
by tyranny, the worst of all tyrannies,
the despotism of priestcraft.
They live in more solemn fear of the frowns of a bigot who has been dead and rotten above a thousand years, than of the living despot whose frown would cost them their lives–
The ignorance, superstitious tradition and civil and religious tyranny, which depress the human mind here, exclude improvement of every kind–
Appointed Naval Agent for the Barbary Regencies in 1804, Eaton then organized and led an expedition to unseat the predatory Barbary ruler Yusuf Qaramanli. Eaton's army arrived outside Derna. on April 25, 1805. When
the bey of Derna refused his generous ultimatum, at 2 p.m. April 28, Eaton led a successful attack on the city, supported by U.S. naval gunfire. During the fighting Eaton – who had led his outnumbered force in a gallant bayonet charge – was wounded in the left wrist.
As [Joshua] London recounts:
He simply wrapped his arm in a makeshift bandage and sling, grabbed a pistol with his right hand, and continued to charge ahead. With the American Marines in the lead, Eaton's forces stormed the ramparts and advanced straight to the harbor.
Subsequent diplomatic efforts stalled the expedition. Tobias Lear, the Consul General, reached an accommodation with Yusuf Qaramanli, which included ransom money for all American prisoners, the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Derna, and the betrayal of Eaton's key Arab ally, Ahmad Qaramanli. Eaton commented upon this treaty with predictable bitterness in a letter to Commodore John Rodgers:
Could 1 have apprehended this result of my exertions, certainly no consideration would have prevailed on me to have taken an agency in a tragedy so manifestly fraught with intrigue, so wounding to human feelings, and, as I must view it, so degrading to our national honor.
Although the Senate ratified the Tripoli treaty in April 1806 by a vote of 21 to 8, as London notes,
Jefferson declared 'victory' but the 'peace' proved rather political– The Federalists did not manage to derail the treaty, but they did embarrass and, at junctures, discredit President Thomas Jefferson and forever tarnish the career of Tobias Lear.
Just over five years later, in Brimfield, Massachusetts, June 1, 1811, an
alcoholic forty-seven year old William Eaton died virtually forgotten.
The signing of the Treaty of Ghent (Christmas Eve, 1814) – subsequently ratified in the U.S. (February, 1815) - ended the so-called War of 1812 with Great Britain, and allowed President James Madison to address the problem of renewed Barbary jihad terrorism.
Shortly afterward, President Madison commissioned two naval squadrons led by Commodores William Bainbridge and Stephen Decatur, and dispatched them to the Barbary States in May, 1815.
By June/July 1815 the ably commanded U.S. naval forces had dealt their Barbary jihadist adversaries a quick series of crushing defeats. These U.S. victories were solidified by what [Joshua] London terms "unprecedented" treaty agreements forced upon the Barbary states, which "..made practically no concessions and stood very firm on every point"
– the abolition of all tribute; release of all American prisoners currently held, and acknowledgement that no future American prisoners of war could be enslaved; the payment of indemnities; and the restoration of American properties held by the dey.
Joshua London concludes his engrossing, carefully researched account of the Barbary wars with this insightful analysis:
During the war with Tripoli, the
United States began to test William
Eaton's hypothesis that fighting back
and protecting the national honor
and national interest with force was
the best way to end Barbary piracy.
Just at the moment of triumph,
however, President Thomas Jefferson
wavered and settled on the side of
expediency.
Jefferson's lack of resolve
left American interests unguarded,
and once again American maritime
trade felt the Barbary terror.
By 1816,
however, the United States finally
provided that William Eaton was right.
This success ignited the imagination
of the Old World powers to rise up
against the Barbary pirates.
Thirty years earlier, in 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams,
then serving as American ambassadors to France and Britain, respectively,
met in London with the Tripolitan Ambassador to Britain, Sidi Haji Abdul Kahman Adja.
Sufism at the service of Islamist Ideology
Although Sufism is generally devalued by the new intellectuals, the image of Perfect Man that conditions their relationship to knowledge, action, and leadership is of mystical origin.
But this mysticism harks back to militant, conquering Sufism, defender of the sharia, more than to popular maraboutism {devotion to a 'saint' with allegedly 'supernatural' powers. Ed.}. Islamist vocabulary is often derived from the Sufi world: Da'wa ('call'), muballigh ('preacher'), and so on.
The objective is to create a total, wise, fighting man, and especially one who has undergone a kind of 'mental conversion': beyond education, this conversion consists in a new vision of the world. Ideological formation is more important than acquiring knowledge.
– The Failure of Political Islam, Olivier Roy, Harvard University Press, 1996 p.101.
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These future American presidents were attempting to negotiate a peace treaty which would spare the United States the ravages of jihad piracy – murder, enslavement (with ransoming for redemption), and expropriation of valuable commercial assets – emanating from the Barbary states (modern Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya).
Muhammad the Model
The modern historian generally reads Prophetic sira {history} as a description of Muhammad's life; the medieval Muslim reader generally read it as a prescription for his own life.
– Islamic Historiography, Chase F. Robinson, Cambridge Universty Press, 2003, p. 122
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During their discussions, they questioned Ambassador Adja as to the source of the unprovoked animus directed at the nascent United States republic. Jefferson and Adams, in their subsequent report to the Continental Congress, recorded the Tripolitan Ambassador's justification:
– that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise
Stephen Coughlin understands and enunciates what was stated openly to then Ambassadors John Adams and Thomas Jefferson – and what they apparently understood – by the Tripolitan Ambassador Adja.
During his September 2007 presentation which I witnessed at US Naval War College, Coughlin updated this timeless Islamic formulation into its modern context:
If the Enemy in the War on Terror (WOT) states that he fights jihad in furtherance of Islamic causes that include the imposition of Shari'a law and the re-establishment of the Caliphate; And Islamic law on jihad exists and is available in English; Then Professionals with WOT responsibilities have an affirmative, personal, professional duty to know the enemy that includes ALL the knowable facts associated with the law of jihad.
And Coughlin, a well-trained lawyer, further argued that such understanding by our military leaders is obligatory if they are to uphold their essential commission:
This is the Professional Standard.
Stephen Coughlin has been fired for reminding his peers of this basic obligation.
Two hundred years after William Eaton's bitter, tragic experiences, and ultimate posthumous vindication, let us fervently hope that our contemporary military and political elites muster the intellectual courage to heed Major Stephen Coughlin's advice in a much more timely, and responsible manner.
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ANDREW G. BOSTOM, MD, MS is an Associate Professor of Medicine at Brown University Medical School, and occasional contributor to Frontpage Magazine. He is author of The Legacy of Jihad - Islamic Holy War and the Fate of non-Muslims. Copyright © 2007 Andrew Bostom | All Rights Reserved: Reprinted with permission. #
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[RECAPITULATION: Ultimately, Eaton concluded that Islam itself, certainly as practised in Barbary, was the source of this backwardness [… ]
that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran … make war upon them … make slaves … every Mussulman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise [… ]
Stephen Coughlin has been fired for reminding his peers of this basic obligation.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: A "religious" reason for suicide bombing and a keen interest in nuclear energy? That would never do! The U.S. and British Establishments know only ECONOMIC reasons, such as seizing oil-rich Iraq, for waging illegal wars! And as for Australia, some people liken HOWODD and KRUDD to corgis or deputy sheriffs!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
War: 9:29;
Slaves: 33:50 (or 33:49);
Paradise: 3:157-158.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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Koranic Jesus.
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
Media Matters, by James Murray, p 32, March 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 32 MARCH 2008
MEDIA MATTERS
By James Murray
Koranic Jesus
The Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting has produced a feature movie and a 20-episode series, Jesus, Spirit of God. According to Variety earlier this year overall budget for the production, directed by Nader Talezbadeh, was a relatively modest $5 million.
Cinema Media Intl managing director Mohammed Reza Ahbasian said: 'It is important to show our history before the Islamic revolution. These episodes of religious history and Iranian history are very popular with Iranian audiences. We want to show the opinions of Islam towards the prophet [Jesus]. The story came from the Koran without any changes. You could call it Jesus through Islam's lens.'
Indeed. As reporter Ali Jaafar commented the movie sees Jesus saved from the cross by God and taken to heaven. In other words, no resurrection from the dead, no ascension into heaven.
Interesting to speculate how an equivalent truncating of the Koran or other Islamic texts would be received by Muslims.
This might be a topic for the Vatican and Muslim thinkers invited by Pope Benedict XVI [Ratzinger] to create guidelines for dialogue [see
Annals 1/2008].
Another topic: edited or not, the narrative of Jesus Christ's life is persuasively eloquent. Suppose a viewer of Jesus, Spirit of
God is converted to Christianity by it. Given its official provenance, will the viewer come under a death fatwa for apostasy? #
[RECAPITULATION: {Read the last two paragraphs again.} ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Well, even the author of this film article does not quite realise that the main theme of Islamic thinking about their
startlingly-different "Jesus" goes back further. You see, Mohammed's recital does not believe that Adam's sin necessitated a SAVIOUR for mankind. In fact, the Koran teaches that Jesus is as Adam, both made from dust (Koran 3:59, or 3:52). There is no room for God the Son, or even Son of God, in that reading!
The author will find that a Koranic DOUBLE was crucified instead of the Koranic Jesus. The Koran says Jesus will die (Koran 19:33) and will be raised again to life. Whether this teaching was announced before the verse denying that Jesus was executed is not clear. See the sequencing problem? Promised a resurrection, but then not even dead!
The Koranic Jesus, like that of some unofficial gospels, talked in the cradle as a baby, and when he moulded birds of clay they, by Allah's leave, supposedly came to life and flew away. And he is credited with healing people. But the Sermon on the Mount teachings and suchlike of the man from Galilee do not have a high place in the Koran. And this lack shows in the Mohammedans' treatment of women, their wars, their cruel punishments, their centuries-long practice of slavery down to this day, and their persecution of non-Muslims and their own sects.
The Koran does not seem to have much space for Eve, either. That figures!
The Disciples of the Koranic Jesus, according to the Koran 3:52, declared that they were Muslims. Yet Allah does not love those who do wrong (3:57). It's a completely different religion to the Jesus message.
But Muslims seem to teach that their religion is the same as the religion of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. And why don't the Hebrew and Christian scriptures bear this out? -- the Jews and the Christians had altered the Books they had received from Heaven!
No wonder the Universal / Oecumenical Patriarch of the Orthodox Churches does not seem to be taking part in much "dialogue" with Islamic scholars! Talking with people who believe Allah told them you are a rebellious transgressor (Koran 57:27) and orders his followers to kill you (2:191) is best left to the Patriarch of the West, i.e., the Bishop of Rome, and the Archbishop of Canterbury! These two don't even seem to realise it will be hard for their monks and nuns to agree on common beliefs, or even have genuinely cordial relations, with a sect that teaches Allah said that the Christians invented the monastic life themselves (Koran 57:27). (Probably monasticism was copied, anyway, just as much more was, but the Romanists and Anglicans don't want to believe those revelations.)
Anyway, it seem to the Webmaster that the story of the Koranic "Jesus" will NOT be "persuasively eloquent," so there will be no un-Jesus-like fatwa ordering the murder of people who would be converted to Jesus-ism by the film!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
3:59 or 3:52:- Verily, Jesus is as Adam in the sight of Allah. He created him of dust: …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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[p 32, March 2008]
Islam overtakes Catholicism as world's largest religion.
Islam overtakes Catholicism as world’s largest religion
The Times Online (London), (Letters for publication to letters@thetimes.co.uk,
www.timeson line.co.uk/ tol/news/ world/ article365 3800.ece ,
By Richard Owen of The Times in Rome, March 31, 2008
VATICAN CITY –
Islam has overtaken Roman Catholicism to become the world's largest single religious denomination, according to L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper.
In an interview with the paper Monsignor Vittorio Formenti, compilier of the Annuario Pontificio, the Vatican yearbook, said "For the first time in history, we are no longer at the top: Muslims have overtaken us." He said that figures for 2006 showed that Catholics accounted for 17.4 per cent of the world population while Muslims accounted for 19.2 per cent.
Asked for an explanation Monsignor Formenti observed that "While Muslim families, as is well known, continue to make a lot of children, Christian ones on the contrary tend to have fewer and fewer". He said the figure for the Muslim global population was derived from data submitted to the United Nations by Muslim countries.
However Christians as a whole, including Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants and Anglicans make up 33 per cent of the world population. Mosnignor Formenti said Latin America remained "the stronghold" of Catholicism, and the American continent as a whole had nearly half the world's total. He noted the decline in numbers of Catholic priests, and said the number of nuns was also suffering a "drastic reduction".
The figures were released as both the Vatican and Muslim leaders sought to pursue a recently initiated Muslim-Catholic dialogue despite tensions over Pope Benedict XVI's high profile baptism at Easter of Magdi Allam, a converted Italian Muslim journalist of Egyptian origin. Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, said the opinions of Mr Allam, an outspoken critic of Islam as inherently violent and repressive, were not in any way "the official expression of the positions of the Pope or the Holy See".
The Vatican puts the number of Catholics in the world at 1.13 billion people, while the figure for Muslims is estimated at around 1.3 billion.
Rome has Europe's largest mosque, opened in 1995 and paid for by Muslim countries, mainly by Saudi Arabia, which at present bans Christian worship but is reported to be considering allowing the construction of a church on Saudi soil as part of negotiations for the establishment of diplomatic relations.
In a provocative short story entitled "The Last Christmas" (L'Ultimo Natale) the popular Italian writer Valerio Massimo Manfredi imagines a future in which Islam has become the dominant religion in Italy, with the Pope obliged to leave St Peter's and make way for an Imam. #
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[RECAPITULATION: The figures were released as both the Vatican and Muslim leaders sought to pursue a recently initiated Muslim-Catholic dialogue despite tensions over Pope Benedict XVI's high profile baptism at Easter of Magdi Allam, a converted Italian Muslim journalist of Egyptian origin. Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, said the opinions of Mr Allam, an outspoken critic of Islam as inherently violent and repressive, were not in any way "the official expression of the positions of the Pope or the Holy See".
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Why not? It's the truth, isn't it? Anyway, Judaism was assailed for centuries as the religion of "Christ-killers," even though the gospels make it plain that a ROMAN centurion was in charge of the execution squad! And it is not just Romanists who keep up this ridiculous prejudice.
More importantly, why didn't the newsitem ask questions about whether Muslim wives are forbidden to practise birth control, or even to space out the number of sexual acts their polygamous husbands wish to enjoy? Roman Catholics are evidently not obeying their Church's orders against using modern methods of family planning.
And, have you ever wondered why there are no Muslim advertisements in the Births, Deaths, and Marriages sections of newspapers? The Australian immigration of Europeans saw them quietly integrate into the society, inserting such notices – but scour the pages for others.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[READ DANIEL PIPES about MAGDI ALLAM and TARIQ RAMADAN: "Is Tariq Ramadan Lying [about Magdi Allam]?"
www.daniel pipes.org/ article/4325 ,
by Daniel Pipes, FrontPageMagazine.com , March 5, 2007.
[EXTRACT FROM A NEWSITEM: It was his condemnation to death by Islamic extremists in 2003 for having criticised Palestinian suicide bombers, Allam said, that set him on the path to embracing Christianity. – http://front pagemagazine. com/Articles/ Read.aspx? GUID=3AC9 D14E-B114- 49ED-95E2- 61FC343 E3BD3 .
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[Mar 31, 08]
Delivered from bondage.
Delivered from bondage
Challenge (the Good News paper; W. Australia),
By ANDREW LANSDOWN, Pages 1 and 2, April 2008
ANZAC DAY offers an opportunity to reflect on the wars that our nation has participated in. One war that deserves to be remembered is the first war that America and its allies (including Australia) fought against Saddam Hussein, the Butcher of Baghdad.
On 2 August 1990, Iraq invaded the small Arab nation of Kuwait. The international community responded by placing a trade embargo on Iraq, and issued ultimatums through the United Nations for Iraq to withdraw. Iraq ignored all economic and diplomatic pressure, took hundreds of innocent Westerners hostage, and dug its troops in to the occupied territory.
On 17 January 1991, after five months of diplomacy and blockade, a coalition of 38 nations, led by the United States of America, went to war with Iraq. Their aim was to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi occupation and to destroy Iraq's military power for the future safety of the gulf region.
The monstrous intentions of the Iraqis, and in particular of their national leader, Saddam Hussein, became increasingly evident as the war progressed. They launched dozens of Soviet-made Scud missiles at residential areas in Israel, a neutral country.
They opened the spigots of Kuwait's main supertanker-loading pier to pour millions of litres of crude oil into the seas of the Persian Gulf. They set fire to 600 oil wells throughout Kuwait. They destroyed hotels and government buildings at random, and looted everything of value.
However, it was not until the war was won, some 43 days after it began, that the true horror of the Iraqi occupation became known.
Torture was a common practice. The Iraqis tore off the fingernails of Kuwaitis who displayed pictures of their emir. They drilled holes in the kneecaps of resistance suspects - or inflated their intestines with air or cut off their ears or gouged out their eyes - before murdering them.
Early on in the occupation, "the Iraqis killed so many young men – that the bodies were taken to a skating rink for short-term preservation"
(The Bulletin/Newsweek, 12 March 1991). And they raped and humiliated Kuwaiti women at will.
It is little wonder that the Kuwaitis could barely contain their joy when delivered them from Iraqi occupation. They came out in their thousands to kiss American soldiers and to sing "God bless America".
The Americans and their allies liberated Kuwait and thereby saved many lives. […]
[COMMENT: Could Saddam Hussein -- and his whole leadership group -- have got such cruel and wasteful ideas from the background culture? As boys, had they been reading unsuitable books glorifying violence against hypocrites, mutilation of opponents, killing and slaughter, and causing destruction? Did they recite anti-Judaic literature? Were they taught to admire people who won victories, and took booty, and kidnappped women whom their right hand possessed for s*x ?
After their criminal attack started, did their current spiritual leaders call on them to stop attacking, to restore stolen property, and to pay compensation? Was the Saddam regime ostracised by other Arab and Muslim nations after this illegal attack and criminality?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
5:33 (or 5:37),
9:73,
22:19 (or 22:20),
48:18-19,
49:1,
49:7.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
3, 39:519,
4, 53:386,
Sahih Muslim's collection, 41:6985.
TRADITION ENDS.]
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ENDS.]
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[April 2008]
Mosque muddle [City of Swan still considering application.]
CORRECTIONS & CLARIFICATIONS
Mosque muddle
The West Australian,
www.thewest. com.au ,
p 23, Tuesday, April 1, 2008
Mosque muddle: We jumped the gun on the application for a proposed mosque in the Swan Valley, wrongly writing that it was already being considered by the Swan Valley Planning Commission. It is, in fact, still before the City of Swan and is yet to go to the commission (Mosque in lap of the planners, page 14, March 28).
It is the policy of The West Australian to correct significant errors as quickly as possible. Readers can contact the office of the readers' editor by mail at The Readers' Editor, The West Australian, 50 Hasler Road, Osborne Park WA 6017; by fax (08) 9482 3177; or email reader@wanews.com.au (the headline, page number and date of publication of the report should be included in your correspondence). Please include your telephone number.
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[Apr 1, 08]
Rockets rain down on Iraq envoy complex [Even though all militias have been ordered (again) by Iraq Government to hand over their arms!]
Rockets rain down on Iraq envoy complex
The West Australian, www.thewest. com.au ,
p 28, Tuesday, April 1, 2008
BAGHDAD – A volley of rockets smashed into the fortified Green Zone in Baghdad yesterday, hitting at least five people, including an Iraqi army major and two US soldiers, witnesses said.
The rockets struck near a checkpoint in the complex, which is the seat of the Iraqi Government and home to most foreign embassies, said Muhanned al-Dulaimi, who said that he was lucky to have survived the attack.
"The rockets hit the ground near the checkpoint," he said.
"The sirens were sounding. I saw five people lying on the ground. Two of them were American soldiers, two were civilians and one was an Iraqi army major."
He was not able to determine if the casualties were dead or wounded. There was no immediate confirmation of the attack from the US Embassy.
The Green Zone, a maze of blast-wall-lined roads that once served as the late Saddam Hussein's presidential palace complex, has been subject to waves of mortar and rocket fire since March 23.
Two US officials and two Iraqi guards of Sunni Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi have been killed since the attacks began and at least 10 people have been wounded, not including the latest casualties.
The top US commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, has blamed Iran for the rocket bombardments, saying the projectiles were "Iranian-provided, Iranian-made rockets".
US commanders say the rocket fire originates from Sadr City, a bastion of the Mahdi Army militia of radical Shi'ite cleric Moktadar al-Sadr in east Baghdad, where Iraqi and US troops have been battling Shi'ite gunmen since last week.
A key adviser to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said yesterday that military operations in a besieged southern city would finish before the end of this week.
Sami al-Askari said most of the Basra area was under control.
A nearly week-long Government crackdown on Shi'ite fighters there sparked fierce battles in Basra, other southern cities and Baghdad.
Mr al-Askar was speaking a day after Mr al-Sadr called on his militia fighters to stand down.
Mr al-Maliki had vowed to stay in Basra until the militia was crushed. But Mr al-Askari said the Prime Minister was expected to return soon to Baghdad, though he did not give a date. #
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[RECAPITULATION: Sami al-Askari said most of the Basra area was under control.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The British military "brass" also said that all was well, before they officially handed over the city again to Muslim Iraqi rule! Read "British Hand Over Basra In Disarray,"
Christian Science Monitor, www.csmonitor. com/2007/1217/ p06s01-woiq. html ,
By Sam Dagher | Correspondent and Abdul-Karim al-Samer | Contributor;
from the December 17, 2007 edition.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Aren't envoys (i.e., diplomats) protected from violence by an international convention? Sorry, I forgot – that is not in the Koran, the Hadith, the Sira, etc. Let's read some of the teachings.
ENDS.]
[KORAN:
2:286:- … Thou art our protector: give us victory therefore over the infidel nations.
71:26-27 (or 71:27-28):- And Noah said, 'Lord, leave not one single family of Infidels on the Earth: For if thou leave them they will beguile thy servants and will beget only sinners, infidels.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
4, 53:386:-
Narrated Jubair bin Haiya:
Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans. When Al-Hurmuzan embraced Islam, Umar said to him. "I would like to consult you regarding these countries which I intend to invade." [… ]
TRADITION ENDS.]
[3rd COMMENT: Those words don't seem like a friendly, loving outlook towards foreigners! In fact, they seem Politically INcorrect!!!
ENDS.]
[Apr 1, 08]
U.S. fails to halt Emirates' dangerous trade.
U.S. fails to halt Emirates’ dangerous trade
International Herald Tribune,
www.iht.com/ articles/ 2008/04/01/ mideast/ uae.php ,
By Eric Lipton, Tuesday, April 1, 2008
[Picture] A worker at Port Rashid in Dubai, where Iranian traders said evidence was scarce that a new export control law was being enforced. (Tamara Abdul Hadi for The New York Times)
WASHINGTON: Roadside bombings of American troops in Iraq were occurring with bloody regularity when military investigators made a disturbing discovery: American-made computer circuits sold to a trading company in the United Arab Emirates had turned up in the bomb detonators.
That finding set off a clash with Washington last year when the Bush administration cited the diversion of the computer circuits to Iran, and eventually Iraq, as proof that the United Arab Emirates were failing to prevent American technology from slipping into the wrong hands. Administration officials said other so-called dual-use goods - including aircraft parts, specialized metals and gas detectors that have a potential military use - had also moved through Dubai, one of the emirates, to Iran, Syria or Pakistan.
The diplomatic face-off, which drew little public attention, prompted the United States to threaten tough new controls on exports to the United Arab Emirates, an important ally. The restrictions would have deeply embarrassed a nation that had invested billions of dollars to become a global trading hub and had just begun a campaign to burnish its image in the United States after the uproar in 2006 over a proposed deal that would have allowed a Dubai company to manage some American ports.
The Bush administration backed down only after the United Arab Emirates promised to pass their own export control law. But nearly a year after the confrontation, it is unclear that much has changed.
Yousef al-Otaiba, an adviser to the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates, said his country was more closely monitoring goods that it re-exported while blocking items that might help Iran build weapons systems. But trade experts, a Commerce Department investigator and Iranian traders in Dubai said evidence was scarce that the new export control law was being broadly enforced.
"It has virtually had no effect, to be honest," said Nasser Hashempour, deputy president of the Iranian Business Council in Dubai. "If someone wants to move something - get it to Iran - it is easy to be done."
Relations with the United Arab Emirates have long been delicate for the United States. Dubai, for example, is the host for more navy ships than any other port outside the United States and is an important listening post for U.S. intelligence personnel. Emirates officials have complied with a Bush administration request to inspect American-bound ship containers for nuclear threats as they move through Dubai.
But the country, which is made up of the emirates Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah, Ajman, Al Fujayrah, Umm al Qaywayn and Ras al Khaymah, has deep economic and cultural ties with Iran, which is only about 110 kilometers, or 70 miles, across the Gulf from Dubai. As many as 400,000 Iranians live in the Emirates, many of them traders who track down goods in the sprawling consumer bazaar of Dubai and then re-export them to Iran, at times ignoring United Nations trade sanctions related to Iran's nuclear program and a broader U.S. embargo.
Nearly $12 billion worth of American goods flowed into the Emirates in 2007, which is nearly three times the 2004 figure, a surge that has been driven by the Emirates' booming economy. Officials in the Emirates say the United States - which prohibits American companies from directly selling most goods to Iran and bars foreign companies from reselling dual-use products there - has complicated efforts to follow the rules. The officials, with trade experts, blame American officials for overstating the potential dangers of certain goods or passing on tips about illicit shipments that are inaccurate or too vague to take any action.
"They like to exaggerate, or at least try to point to some strategic significance of the item, like saying 'This software program could be used to design nuclear power plants,' even if someone is just buying it to draw puppies and flowers," said Clif Burns, an export control lawyer at Powell Goldstein in Washington.
U.S. officials have been increasingly alarmed about trade in the United Arab Emirates since 2002, when the Commerce Department sent an inspector, Mary O'Brien, there. From her spot checks of factories, freight forwarders and other companies that had ordered American products subject to export controls, Commerce officials say, it was clear that dual-use goods, including computer equipment and specialized machine tools, were being diverted on a grander scale than imagined.
An entity said to be a woodworking shop, for example, had ordered a sophisticated American machine for making metal parts. The device, O'Brien knew, could also shape components for a missile system. The supposed factory contained almost no sawdust, and the few employees could not explain how they intended to use the machine.
"This is not right," O'Brien said she had said to herself, convinced that she had turned up her first "briefcase business" - open for inspection, but closed for good as soon as she walked out.
At another stop, she pressed a Dubai pistachio wholesaler to explain why he had bought an American-made infrared camera, which can detect living objects in the dark, and where it had gone. Only later did she determine that he had arranged for the camera to be returned from Iran, where it had apparently been diverted, while he stalled her follow-up inspection.
In nearly 40 percent of her inspections over four years, she found that regulated items were missing or that the recipient would not cooperate. Many of those companies were placed on a "red flag" list, warning American exporters to be careful when selling to them.
"This was a huge sieve," said Lisa Prager, a former top Commerce official. "Almost nothing that said it was going to U.A.E. was staying in U.A.E."
O'Brien's efforts helped jump-start criminal investigations into the diversion of American-made goods to Iran. As of last year, 58 inquiries, nearly half of the total, involved the United Arab Emirates, according a Commerce Department tally.
Several companies were fined or charged criminally, including Mine Safety Appliances of Pittsburgh, which admitted late last year that its shipments of gas masks, chemical detection equipment and other goods had been rerouted by its agent in Abu Dhabi to Iran and Syria. (In this case, the company turned itself in.)
The Bush administration also started to turn up the diplomatic heat, sending a series of top-level officials, including Frances Townsend, then the White House homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, to push Emirates' officials to confront the problem.
In 2005, the discovery of a American-made computer circuit in an unexploded roadside bomb in Iraq transformed what had been a polite diplomatic exchange into a nasty dispute.
By reading a serial number on the fingernail-size chip and studying shipping records, American investigators were able to determine that it had moved from the manufacturer, AMD of Sunnyvale, California, to Mayrow General Trading in Dubai. From there, it went to Iran before turning up in Iraq in "limited numbers" of roadside bombs, a U.S. official involved in the inquiry said. No known deaths have been linked to those bombs, said the official, who would speak only on condition of anonymity because the details were classified.
Officials at the Commerce and Defense Departments would not discuss how they had connected Mayrow to the unexploded bomb. But Michael Turner, who until last year was director of the Commerce Department's enforcement office, said investigators uncovered evidence definitively connecting the two. A spokesman for AMD said the company cooperated with the inquiry, adding that its customers are bound by agreements not to re-export its products to Iran.
American officials had no authority to act against Mayrow, a foreign company, and the Commerce Department had not required AMD to get a special export license restricting resale of the chip because it was not considered particularly powerful. But American officials were angry that their counterparts in the United Arab Emirates had not immediately moved to shut down Mayrow.
"The Mayrow case is just one example of an alarming lack of export oversight by the government of the U.A.E.," Christopher Padilla, a senior Commerce Department official, said in a December 2006 speech in Washington. "We continue to discuss this issue with U.A.E. authorities, but time for action is running short."
To back up that threat, the Commerce Department proposed a new set of export controls for "governments unwilling or unable to cooperate with the U.S. in interdiction efforts."
The rules would mandate special reviews before certain dual-use American products could be exported to those nations. Emirati diplomats and a team of lobbyists fought back, by appealing to officials in the State Department and White House, and promising the Commerce Department that the Emirates would adopt their own export control law, a commitment they carried out by August.
Otaiba, the international affairs director for the crown prince, said that the Emirates' officials now had a clearer legal ground to intercept dual-use goods being exported to Iran or elsewhere - and that they had already started to do so.
Late last year, his government shut down more than a dozen companies suspected of exporting goods illegally or money laundering. It also recently arrested a Jordanian businessman who was trying to import a metal that is widely used in nuclear reactors, with the intention of selling it to another country.
At the Commerce and State Departments, officials said they had seen some early signs that the law would make a difference and cited improved cooperation by the Emirates' authorities.
"We would like to see it faster," said Patricia McNerney, acting assistant secretary of state for international security and nonproliferation. "But we were satisfied they are making progress."
The Commerce Department, however, declined requests by this newspaper and congressional investigators in recent months to release any updated figures on how frequently inspections by American authorities turned up problems.
Turner, who still works in the export control field, said he still was awaiting evidence that the new law was being enforced. "I still don't see any real change in what the U.A.E. is doing," he said.
Nasir Khan, the Commerce Department investigator who has the job once held by O'Brien, said in a brief interview that he, too, had seen little change. "Things are still very nascent," he said.
Executives at several of the so-called red flag companies, those suspected of violating American export controls, said they had faced no increased scrutiny in Dubai.
S.M. Mir Ebrhimi, chief executive of Reza Nezam Trading, which operates mostly out of Iran, said he continued sending products with American-made components as usual.
Similarly, Mohammad Kazem, supervisor at Al Musafer Tourism and Cargo, said he had not even known his business was on the warning list. He said that the company followed the law, disputing any suggestion by American authorities that he had shipped prohibited items to Iran. He also said that he had seen no additional inspections or spot checks by Emirati authorities.
"There is no problem in Dubai," he said.
Nada El Sawy contributed reporting from Dubai. #
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[COMMENT: Remember how the Soviet Union got the atomic bomb, and later the nuclear bomb, years before experts in the West thought they could? Well, it all came about through SELLING the United States' very-clever technology to make a PROFIT. The book National Suicide; Military aid to the Soviet Union, © 1973, by Antony C. Sutton, gives some of the sell-out story, which was originally exposed in the book
Major Jordan's diaries. And it is not just U.S. corporations – the Australian Wheat Board was breaching international embargoes and slipping dishonest money to the Saddam Hussein regime, which was paying the families of Palestinian terrorists who had died suicide-bombing Israelis, whether military or civilian.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Apr 1, 07]
Muslim baptised by Pope says he wanted to show others not to fear
Muslim baptised by Pope says he wanted to show others not to fear
The Record (R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
By Cindy Wooden, CNS, Pages 1 and 2, Wednesday, April 2, 2008
[Picture] Welcome: Journalist Magdi Allam, centre, was baptised a disciple of Jesus by Pope Benedict XVI. The baptism has caused controversy because Allam was born a Muslim; he has lived under threat of death for the last five years.
Journalist opted for public ritual as a sign to
inspire others.
ROME (CNS) – The Muslim-born journalist baptised by Pope Benedict XVI [Ratzinger] at the Easter Vigil said he wanted a public conversion to convince other former Muslims not to be afraid of practicing their new Christian faith.
But a representative of a group of Muslim scholars who recently launched a new dialogue with the Vatican said the prominence given to the baptism of Magdi Allam, a frequent critic of Islam, raises disturbing questions.
Allam, 55, was one of seven adults baptised by the Pope on March 22 in St Peter's Basilica.
Aref Ali Nayed, a spokesman for the 138 Muslim scholars who initiated the Common Word dialogue project last October and who established the Catholic-Muslim Forum for dialogue with the Vatican in early March, said conversion is a private matter, but the very public way in which Allam was baptised appeared "deliberate and provocative."
In a front-page editorial on March 25, the Vatican newspaper said Allam's baptism was given no greater emphasis during the vigil than the baptism of the other six adults Pope Benedict received into the church that night.
Allam's decision to be baptised and the Vatican's decision to include him in the papal ceremony did not carry with it any "hostile intention in the face of a great religion like Islam," said the article signed by Giovanni Maria Vian, the editor of L'Osservatore Romano.
"For decades the Catholic Church has shown a desire to
meet and dialogue with the Muslim world despite a thousand difficulties and obstacles," he wrote.
"But difficulties and obstacles must not obscure what we have in common." In a March 25 interview with Il Giornale, an Italian newspaper, Allam said thousands of Italian Christians have converted to Islam with no repercussions.
"On the other hand, if a Muslim converts it is the end of the world and he is condemned to death for apostasy. In Italy there are thousands of converts who live their faith in secret for fear they will not be protected," Allam said. ut of the catacombs, live your faith openly. Do not be afraid'," he said.
In a March 23 article in Corriere della Sera, the newspaper for which he writes, Allam said, "His Holiness has launched an explicit and revolutionary message to a church that, up to now, has been too prudent in converting Muslims."
He said Catholics were "abstaining from proselytism in countries with a Muslim majority and being silent about the reality of converts in Christian countries out of fear - the fear of not being able to protect the converts in the face of their condemnations to death for apostasy and for fear of reprisals against Christians living in Islamic countries."
"Well, with his witness today, Benedict XVI tells us we need to conquer our fear and not be afraid to affirm the truth of Jesus even to Muslims," Allam wrote in Corriere.
Journalist convert wanted to show others should not fear
Allam told Il Giornale that although his mother was a
devout Muslim she sent him to Catholic preschool, elementary and high schools. In the Corriere article, he said he even had gone to Communion once, which demonstrates how he had been attracted to the church for a long time.
He told Giornale his mother later regretted sending him to Catholic schools "because I never shared a certain zeal in practicing Islam; I always had a lot of autonomy. And, so, I became aware that Catholicism corresponded perfectly to the values that I held."
Allam also said his Easter baptism marked a total and definitive turning from "a past in which I imagined that there could be a moderate Islam."
He said Islamic "extremism feeds on a substantial ambiguity found in the Quran and in the concrete actions of Mohammed." While he moved definitively away from Islam five years ago, Allam said it was Pope Benedict's teaching that convinced him to become a Catholic.
"He has said the basis for accepting a religion as true is how it accepts the basic rights of the person, the sacredness of life, freedom, choice (and) equality between men and women," Allam said.
In a written statement reacting to Allam's baptism by the Pope at the globally televised Easter Vigil, Nayed said, "It is sad that the intimate and personal act of a religious conversion is made into a triumphalist tool for scoring points."
In addition, he said, "It is sad that the particular person chosen for such a highly public gesture has a history of generating, and continues to generate, hateful discourse."
Nayed said it would be important for Pope Benedict and the Vatican to distance themselves from Allam's stance on Islam.
"The whole spectacle with its choreography, persona and messages provokes genuine questions about the motives, intentions and plans of some of the pope's advisers on Islam," he said, adding that the Muslim scholars would continue their dialogue with the Vatican.
Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, told the Italian news agency ApCom on March 23 that he did not know how Allam came to be among the people baptised by the Pope at the Easter Vigil "or who promoted it."
However, he said, freedom of conscience is a basic right and "to whomever knocks the door of the church is always open." #
[RECAPITULATION: But a representative of a group of Muslim scholars who recently launched a new dialogue with the Vatican said the prominence given to the baptism of Magdi Allam, a frequent critic of Islam, raises disturbing questions. … appeared "deliberate and provocative."
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The only "disturbing questions" or provocation there could be, would only arise in the minds of those who do not believe that Christianity has any RIGHT to have different beliefs to Islam. These beliefs include the Son of God doctrine, the saviour theory, the claim that Jesus died, the resurrection, the trinity, the sacredness of human life, women's rights, rejection of hate, and forgiving people who harm us – all of them startingly contradicted in Islam. This mindset talks about the "unicity" of God (in contradiction to the trinity theory), and claims that their god Allah is the same god as El Shaddai, Yahweh/Jehovah/Yehovah, and/or Abba / the Father.
Moderate or otherwise, studious Muslims remember their religion's teaching that Christians are unclean, and include the claims that Christians teach that Mary was part of the Godhead, and that Jesus had been given an Evangel from Heaven but that his followers forgot a good deal of the wording.
Bedevilled by these theories and a teaching that the Judaists changed and forgot parts of their scriptures, most Muslim scholars and leaders teach that many Jews and Christians follow a course that is evil, and therefore they consider there is NO RIGHT to convert anyone, let alone a Muslim. In Muslim-dominated areas of the world, the usual thing is to murder the ex-Muslim convert/s, renamed as "apostates" (as ordered in the standard Islamic texts), to spread terror, and to say that Allah wills it.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN/QURAN:
8:12:- … I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura8.html #12>
Click: 66:9.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
9, 84:57:- … Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.
Click: 9, 84:58,
and
Sunan Abu-Dawud's collection, Book 38, Number
4341.
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[Apr 2, 08]
Sister beats knife attack in convent
Sister beats knife attack in convent
The Record (R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
By Cindy Wooden, CNS, Page One, Wednesday, April 2, 2008
LAHORE, Pakistan (CNS) – A member of the Sisters of Charity of Jesus and Mary has survived a knife attack at her convent in the southern outskirts of Lahore.
Two young men broke into Sister Nuzrat Shafi's convent and slashed her throat on March 8. The convent is in Youhanabad, the largest Christian area in Pakistan, on the outskirts of Lahore. The 34-year-old nun received nine stitches and has badly damaged vocal cords.
Sister Shafi told the Asian church news agency UCA News that she was alone in the convent when she heard a knock on her door at about 3 pm.
Suddenly, two young men, about 25 years old, burst into the room.
"First they asked for money and then for keys to the cupboards of other nuns. When I told them I was the youngest and had no idea where money is kept, they became furious, wrecked my cupboard and then slapped me. I cried for them not to touch me but was thrown on the bed,"she said.
She said the last thing she recalls before passing out was hearing her attackers say "Finish her."
Other attacks have occurred in Youhanabad. Last year, in separate incidents, a religious sister was beaten and had her teeth broken, and a missionary priest was attacked and tortured. #
[KORAN:
8:12,
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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[Apr 2, 08]
Bomb plot to sacrifice babies.
Bomb plot to sacrifice babies
The West Australian,
www.thewest. com.au ,
p 19, Monday, April 7, 2008
LONDON – A gang of Muslim fanatics discussed "sacrificing" their wives and babies on an alleged suicide mission to blow up transatlantic jets, a London court was told.
The martyrdom plot was just "a couple of weeks" from fruition and included plans to attack nuclear power stations, oil refineries and
skyscrapers at Canary Wharf in London, it is alleged. Excerpts from six chilling alleged suicide videos were played on Friday in which the defendants said they would "scatter body parts" over the streets in revenge for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posing before black flags with white Arabic writing, they were filmed promising to unleash "volcanoes of anger and revenge' and "rain terror and destruction" down on "non-believers".
They said the deaths of "so-called innocents" were justified -because British taxpayers, who funded the army, did not care about the fate of Muslims because they were more interested in drinking, watching EastEnders and "complaining about the World Cup".
Woolwich Crown Court was told earlier that up to 18 suicide bombers were to bring down simultaneously seven or more flights to the US and Canada from Heathrow Airport.
If successful, hundreds and possibly thousands of people would have died in what would have been the worst terrorist atrocity since the September 11 attacks on America in 2001.
[Pictures] Assad Sarwar
Umar Islam
The defendants are Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 27, Ibrahim Savant, 27, Arafat Waheed Khan, 26, and Waheed Zaman, 23, all from Walthamstow, east London, Tanvir Hussain, 27, of Leyton, east London, Mohammed Gulzar, 26, of Barking and Assad Sarwar, 27, and Umar Islam, 29, both of High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire.
All deny conspiracy to murder and commit violence likely to endanger an aircraft between January 1 and August 11, 2006.
In August 2006, the alleged conspirators were recorded covertly discussing their plans, prosecutor Peter Wright told jurors.
When Mr Ali was asked "how long till the event?", he replied: "A couple of weeks." Mr Islam added: "This is really going to happen, isn't it?"
Mr Islam was allegedly asked whether his wife might go with him on the "operation" and replied: "I think if I was to say to her that this was a significant operation she might even find it in herself to do that."
Mr Ali asks: "What about the babies? Maybe she'd take them with her?"
Mr Islam replies: "Maybe, you know what I mean. She'd like to do it though."
Mr Wright said: "Such a sacrifice is beyond contemplation for those who are the target of an attack such as this but not those who are about to carry them out."
As the full scope of the alleged terror plot was disclosed, the jury heard that information had been gathered on the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster. The plotters may also have intended to bring down the internet by hitting Britain's main web server, according to information seized at the home of Assad Sarwar.
Mr Wright said: "The horizons of Mr Sarwar in respect of his terrorist ambitions were, we say, limitless."
The alleged plotters bought a flat in east London to use as a bomb factory, Mr Wright said. They bought material to assemble liquid-based bombs that could be smuggled on to aircraft disguised as soft drinks.
The case continues. #
[COMMENT: Liquids disguised as soft drinks -- or babies' milk mixtures, perhaps?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN:
{click} 4:34 (or 4:38),
{read} 8:28:- Know that your children and your worldly goods are but a temptation, and that Allah's recompense is great.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/008. qmt.html #008.028 >
64:14:- O ye who believe! Verily, in your wives and your children ye have an enemy: wherefore beware of them. …
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/064. qmt.html #064.014 >
{and click} 58:22,
64:14,
{and} Koran / Life after death better than this.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Vol. 2, Bk. 19, No. 173 (Bukhari's collection):- [… ] Later on, I saw him killed as a non-believer.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/funda mentals/hadith sunnah/bukhari/ 019.sbt.html# 002.019.173 >
Bukhari's, 6, 60:250:-
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/060. sbt.html# 006.060.250 >
[***] (Then) they found a boy and Al-Khadir killed him. Ya'la- said: Said said 'They found boys playing and Al-Khadir got hold of a handsome infidel boy laid him down and then slew him with a knife. [***]
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[Apr 7, 08]
Minister can't say on website bans.
[Multiculturalism and ignorance, or a Free Press?]
Minister can’t say on website bans
The Record
(R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
By Paul Gray, p 6, Wednesday, April 9, 2008
AUSTRALIA –
A senior federal government figure with responsibility for multiculturalism says he is "disgusted" by the existence of websites promoting anti-semitic and racist hatred, but can't predict whether the government will move to ban them.
Laurie Ferguson, who is the parliamentary secretary for Multicultural Affairs and Settlement Services, was responding to calls from a Jewish anti-defamation group for the outlawing of websites that spread racial and religious vilification.
The B'nai B'rith Anti-defamation Commission said last week that Australia's commitment to enhancing multiculturalism and combating racism requires strong action to combat internet sites engaged in racial vilification.
"We have laws banning race hatred and we have laws for certain kinds of violent and pornographic material on the internet but we have no system to police race hatred on the internet," said the Commission's chairman John Searle.
"Its inconsistent and leads to the abuse of minorities."
The Commission had released details from several so-called "mission islam" websites which claimed Jews have distinctive characteristics such as liking to "spread mischief and corruption." The sites said Jews "are people of indignity, disobedience and transgression."
The websites also published as true a notorious Czarist-era forgery alleging an international Jewish conspiracy, the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion."
Asked for the likelihood of government action against the websites, Mr Ferguson told The Record he was concerned, and "more than concerned, quite frankly, disgusted," by the sites in question.
But he could not predict the course of the Government's decision-making on the issue as it lay within the provinces of the Commonwealth Attorney-General and of the Communications Minister, and he could not foresee their actions. #
[OVERALL COMMENT: It ought to be strange, but isn't, that a supposedly "Christian" newspaper is publishing an article by Islamophile Paul Gray about how a supposedly "Judaic" group wants censorship on the Internet.
Censorship of religious and racial material would have meant that the genocidal wars described in books such as Leviticus, Judges, and Samuel could not be reproduced in print, preached in churches, or shown on the Internet, BECAUSE the successors of the perpetrators of such "utter destruction" (i.e., the Jews) might feel affronted and afraid of how others might perceive them.
Descriptions of the European slave-systems in the times of ancient Greece and Rome, and of many other nations, would have to be blue-pencilled, because modern Greeks, Italians, etc. might feel insulted and denigrated. Many of the Norse sagas and Hindu scriptures are full of awful deeds.
The wars, slaughters, and destruction of cultural artefacts and buildings by the Arab Muslim invaders, and the child-kidnapping by them and later of the Turkish Muslim invaders, would all have to "whited out." We mustn't let them think they are not following a merciful Allah!
The obliteration of the Meso-American civilisations, cities, writing systems, and religions by the Roman Catholic Spanish invaders after 1492; the handing of smallpox infected blankets and poisoned food to North American Indians by the Anglo-Celt invaders, the British slave trade (both whites and blacks), slavery of Indians and Africans in North and South America, the Muslim trade in both white and black slaves, the Muslim invasions of India, Indonesia and the southern Philippines, the shootings of Australian Aboriginal women and children as well as the men (such as the Battle of Pinjarra), Soviet Russia's mass-murders from 1917 onwards, Nazi Germany's ethnic obliterations of the 1930s-40s, fanatic Japanese anti-Chinese slaughters from around 1933 (including the Rape of Nanking), and its 1930s and 40s invasions right down almost to Australia -- all would have to be forgotten. There are descendants and successors of all these wicked races and religions living still, and they must not feel insulted!
"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."
Why not have MORE censorship? For example, the Roman Catholic and Anglican Churches, among other religions, wish that the continual newsitems about clergy child sex abuse would go away, too.
However, the public deserves to know the depths of depravity and hypocrisy, just as it must study Islamists who are willing to sacrifice women, children, simpletons, and babies to destroy other human beings and such places as churches, monasteries, and cemeteries on "religious" grounds dressed up as "self-defence."
One might ask if the Australian Judaic leaders supported the immigration of Muslims, whose religion labels Jews as unclean and untrustworthy, in to Australia and indeed into many other countries that did not have any or many before the 20th century. The answer is, No. They have been hoist with their own petard! Multiculturalism and non-discrimination has turned to bite them!
After this was published, the Indonesian government ordered all Internet providers in Indonesia to turn off any Internet website that showed the video film Fitna by Dutchman Geert Wilders. It quotes the Koran, and shows videos of current Islamic preaching that orders attacks on the unclean, the unbelievers. And on January 19, the ramshackle Afghanistan legal "system" was trying to punish journalists, one of whom was distributing information about the injustices of Islamic law, accusing them of "blasphemy," a capital offence in most Islamic countries. Telling truth is like murder, in their distorted thinking.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[RECAPITULATION: Mr Ferguson told The Record he was concerned, and "more than concerned, quite frankly, disgusted," by the sites in question. But he could not predict the course of the Government's decision-making on the issue as it lay within the provinces of the Commonwealth Attorney-General and of the Communications Minister, and he could not foresee their actions. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: We learn two things from Mr Laurie Ferguson's comment: (1) He doesn't believe in Free Speech and Freedom of the Press, (2) Like most so-called "democratic" Cabinet government, the ministers blunder along almost solo, not really part of a cohesive committee of governance. If Mr Ferguson cannot foresee what those two ministers will do, it means that Labor went to the November election without a coherent policy. And how can the taxpayers have any faith that what Australians want is even being considered by these people? Government by "impulses" is like the uncontrolled immigration of the John Howard "team" during the past three years or so -- the Liberals and Nationals said one thing, yet the opposite occurred!
AND think about this: While pornography runs riot on the Internet, and in theatres, magazines, and women's "semi-clothed" street attire, a Roman Catholic is getting facts about Internet denigration of Judaism and Jews. At the same time, the Vatican is worrying about Jewish criticism of RC Holy Week prayers for the conversion of the Jews, until the Second Vatican Council described as "faithless", although a better translation would have been "unbelieving". The safest way would be to leave out any mention of any special group, and just pray for conversions generally.
ENDS.]
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[p 6, Apr 9, 08]
Prayer for Jews is 'not a step back'.
Prayer for Jews is ‘not a step
back’
The Record
(R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
CNS, p 8, Wednesday, April 9, 2008
VATICAN CITY (CNS) – Pope Benedict XVI's [Ratzinger's] revised prayer for the Jews for use in the Tridentine-rite Good Friday liturgy does not indicate any form of stepping back from the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, the Vatican said.
"The new formulation of the prayer, which modifies certain
expressions of the 1962 Missal, in no way intends to indicate a change in the Catholic Church's regard for the Jews, which has evolved from the basis of the Second Vatican Council" said an April 4 Vatican statement.
In early February, the Vatican published Pope Benedict's revision of the Good Friday prayer, which is used only in the liturgy celebrated according to the Tridentine rite.
The new prayer removed language referring to the "blindness" of the Jews, but it prays that Jews will recognise Jesus, the saviour, and that "all Israel may be saved."
The statement said some members of the Jewish community felt the new prayer was "not in harmony with the official declarations and statements of the Holy See regarding the Jewish people and their faith which have marked the progress of friendly relations between the Jews and the Catholic Church over the last 40 years."
In particular, some Jews, and some Catholics, felt the prayer contained an explicit call to attempt to convert Jews to Christianity.
[RECAPITULATION: {Read the last sentence again.} ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Let's get real -- any religion worth its salt will want to convert other people! It looks as if some Jews are willing to pick a fight over anything and everything, just like some other people following a similar culture do. To read that some Catholics also cavilled at the prayer shows that they don't believe in the mission of their own Church!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[EXPLANATION: The Tridentine Rite, this Webmaster thinks, is the Latin Mass (i.e., Eucharistic Service), more or less like the Latin Mass as reformed after the Council of Trent following the Protestant Reformation a few centuries ago. The word used about the Jews then was translated "faithless", meant to mean "unbelieving," but used by anti-Jewish agitators and criminals to mean untrustworthy and dishonest. Islam also has denigratory sentiments in its texts.
ENDS.]
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[p 8, Apr 9, 08]
Deadly mosque bombing linked to sectarian strife.
Deadly mosque bombing linked to sectarian strife
The West Australian,
www.thewest. com.au ,
p 24, Monday, April 14, 2008
TEHRAN – Ten people were killed and 160 wounded at the weekend when a bomb blast ripped through a mosque in the Iranian city of Shiraz, the apparent result of friction between Islamic sects. .
The massive bomb explosion occurred on Saturday during an evening prayer sermon by a prominent local cleric about the dangers of Sunni extremists, the semi-official Pars news agency reported.
The explosion shattered shop windows and damaged buildings in a 1500m area of the ancient city. Ambulances and firefighters rushed to the
scene to rescue the wounded, who flooded city hospitals.
Pars reported that a mid-ranking cleric named Anjivinejad was delivering a speech about the "misleading and corrupted cults" of the Wahhabi Islamic school that inspires Osama bin Laden as well as the Baha'i faith when the blast went off. The cleric survived with slight injuries, Pars reported.
Shiraz is an old southern city that once was home to famous Persian poets. In recent weeks, the city has experienced student unrest.
Videos posted on the YouTube file-sharing website show hundreds of student activists chanting slogans against Government policies. #
[RECAPITULATION: Pars reported that a mid-ranking cleric named Anjivinejad was delivering a speech about the "misleading and corrupted cults" of the Wahhabi Islamic school that inspires Osama bin Laden as well as the Baha'i faith when the blast went off.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: (Clarification: Wahhabi literalism does not affect the Baha'i faith.)
So, it could, repeat could, have been Wahhabis, some other Muslim sect, Baha'is (unlikely, their faith is completely unlike the jihad-laden Mohammedan religion), Sunnis in their centuries-old "religious" war with Shi'ites, gangsters, OR the secret services of foreign powers.
Yes, the latter thought is not just a wacky "conspiracy theory," because two bomb-laden carloads of non-Arabs dressed in Arab robes have been caught in Iraq in the years since the illegal 2003 invasion. One pair was British, the other United States. Your average Western politician will never refer to those newsitems, knowing that most voters don't know, and don't care.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[QUESTION: Bombing a mosque. Could genuine Muslims in good conscience attack people praying to Heaven, or destroy a religious structure?
ENDS.]
[NABLUS, Palestine: In the year 2000, after Israel evacuated Joseph's Tomb there because of repeated Muslim Palestinian attacks led by Yasser Arafat's gunmen against Jewish pilgrims and Israeli troops there to guard them, Palestinian Muslims came with pickaxes, hammers, and later bulldozers to tear apart a large part of the tomb structure and a yeshiva there. The dome of the tomb was painted green, and later a Moslem mosque was erected in its place. -- See "Schmoozing with terrorists," by Jamie Glazov, Israel and Christians Today,
www.c4isr ael.com.au , Australian edition, page 9, February 2008.
ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the words of Allah):
5:82 (or 5:85):- Of all men thou wilt certainly find the
Jews, and those who join other gods with God, to be the most intense in hatred of those who believe; and thou shalt certainly find those to be nearest in affection to them who say, 'We are Christians.' …
7:4 (or 7:3):- How many cities have We destroyed!
{and click} 47:13 (or 47:14).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
2, 23:414:- Narrated 'Urwa:
… Āisha said, "The Prophet in his fatal illness said, 'Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians because they took the graves of their Prophets as places for praying'." …
TRADITION ENDS.]
[2nd QUESTION: Even if "pious" Muslims are permitted to attack other religions' people and holy places, could genuine Muslims in good conscience attack other Muslims in a Muslim building set aside for praying to Heaven, or destroy any part of such a Muslim structure?
ENDS.]
[ANSWER: In recent years Muslims have murdered preachers and others in Muslim mosques, blown parts of Muslim mosques up, murdered people at funerals and weddings, and generally committed what Westerners used to call "sacrilege." In fact, it is one of the marks of a fervent Muslim, past and present – he (repeat, he) has little or no sense of the sacred. Reverent Westerners in theory know that the human being is more sacred than buildings, tombs, etc., although in practice both religious and atheist Westerners have committed mass murders, waged unjust wars of aggression such as the colonial wars, World Wars I and II, attacks on small nations, the 2003+ invasion and illegal occupation of Iraq, etc.
ENDS.]
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[Apr 14, 08]
Netanyahu would strike Iran to protect Israel.
Netanyahu would strike Iran to protect Israel
The West Australian,
p 24, Monday, April 14, 2008
[Picture] Benjamin Netanyahu
JERUSALEM – The man leading the polls to become Israel's next prime minister says his country is on the front line in a battle with militant Islam.
Former prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu hinted that he would not hesitate to attack Iran to protect the Jewish state.
"We had nazism, which has been defeated, a totalitarian creed of race," he said at the weekend. "We had communism, which has been defeated, a totalitarian creed of class. And now we have militant Islam which is a totalitarian creed of creed, of religion and fanaticism. This too will pass. But
the question is, when? And by the time it passes, how many people will it kill? How many terror actions will it have committed? And this is something we face here, simply because we are the front line."
Mr Netanyahu's Likud Party is expected to triumph over the shaky ruling coalition of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, which is widely expected to crumble, leading to elections, within the year.
Mr Netanyahu also said the US-backed Middle East peace process would not bring a sustainable agreement with Palestinians. He said moderate Palestinian leaders could not deliver real peace. #
[TORAH (Jews' Bible laws): Deuteronomy 2:25: This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[TALMUD:
Has it not been taught: 'With respect to robbery -- if one stole or robbed or [seized] a beautiful woman, or [committed] similar offences, if [these were perpetrated] by one Cuthean against another, [the theft, etc.] must not be kept, and likewise [the theft] of an Israelite by a Cuthean, but that of a Cuthean by an Israelite may be retained'? [… ] "For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty'? ("Sanhedrin," 57a; page 388)
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[Apr 14, 08]
Hamas MP sees Islamic conquest 'very soon;'
Lawmaker for group meeting Carter envisions takeover of Western civilization
Hamas MP sees Islamic conquest ‘very soon’
Lawmaker for group meeting Carter envisions takeover of Western civilization
WorldNetDaily, © 2008,
Posted 2:00 pm Eastern, April 14, 2008
A member of the Palestinian parliament representing Hamas declared in a televised message that Islam "very soon" will conquer Rome, spread throughout Europe then take over the Americas.
Yunis Al-Astal, a Muslim cleric, said in the April 11 broadcast on Hamas' Al-Aqsa TV, "Very soon, Allah willing, Rome will be conquered, just like Constantinople was, as was prophesied by our prophet Muhammad."
A segment of the address was taped and translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI.
MEMRI also reported Abbas Zaki, the Palestinian Authority's ambassador to Lebanon, declared on Lebanese television last week that Israel would be conquered.
"When Israel's ideology will collapse, and after we take Jerusalem, Israel's ideology will collapse altogether, and then we will proceed with our own ideology, inshallah {if Allah wills}, and we will throw them out of all of Palestine," Zaki said.
The Hamas leader Al-Astal told Palestinians, "Allah has chosen you for himself and for his religion, so that you will serve as the engine pulling this nation to the phase of succession, security, and consolidation of power, and even to conquests thorough Da'wa (propagation of Islam) and military conquests of the capitals of the entire world."
The Palestinian lawmaker called Rome the "capital of the Catholics," or "the Crusader capital, which has declared its hostility to Islam, and has planted the brothers of apes and pigs in Palestine in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam … ."
Many Muslim clerics, citing language in popular English renditions of Islam's holy book, the Quran, teach that the Jews descended from apes and pigs.
As WND reported, Hamas leaders, ahead of a controversial visit with Jimmy Carter, called the former U.S. president a "noble person" whose planned meeting with the terrorist organization would help it "engage with the world community."
Hamas is listed by the State Department as a terrorist group. It's responsible for scores of deadly suicide bombings, and thousands of shooting attacks and rocket firings against civilian population centers.
Al-Astal said Rome will one day "be an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread through Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, and even Eastern Europe."
"I believe that our children or our grandchildren will inherit our jihad (holy war) and our sacrifices, and Allah willing, the commanders of the conquest will come from among them," he said. "Today, we instill these good tidings in their souls, and by means of the mosques and the Quran books, and the history of our prophets, his companions, and the great leaders, we prepare them for the mission of saving humanity from the hellfire on the brink of which they stand."
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[RECAPITULATION:
… Rome the "capital of the Catholics," or "the Crusader capital" has planted the brothers of apes and pigs in Palestine in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam …
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: So, these people -- a parliamentarian and an ambassador -- are really just sandstorm refugees parroting unhistorical baloney. The landgrab by Jews was backed and armed by the Soviet Union and the United States, acting in different ways, and Israel was quickly recognised by most of the clients of the Internationalists. The Vatican did NOT recognise Israel for some time. Surely the Roman Catholic Church has enough problems without also blaming it for the foundation of the Israeli State.
ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be Allah's words):
5:59-60 (or 5:64-65):- O people of the Book! … some of them hath He changed into apes and swine
…
{And click:} 7:166 (or 7:167).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Muslim's collection, 41:6985:- … Allah's Messenger … saying The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree …
{And click:} Sunan Abu-Dawud's, Book 19, Number 2996.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Nick Maine.
ENDS.]
[Apr 14, 08]
'Terrorists planned to attack grand final'.
‘Terrorists planned to attack grand final’
The West Australian,
www.thewest. com.au ,
p 7, Wednesday, April 16, 2008
MELBOURNE – The 2005 AFL grand final at the MCG was the original target for a terrorist attack by an alleged terror group, a Victorian Supreme Court jury was told yesterday.
Witness Izzydeen Atik said the group's alleged leader, Abdul Nacer Benbrika, told him of the targets he intended to attack.
Mr Benbrika allegedly said the grand final was the original target, but attacks had to be put off until the following year because of police and Australian Security Intelligence Organisation raids, security reasons and funding problems.
"The next targets were the NAB Cup and the Crown Casino building on Grand Prix weekend (in 2006)," Mr Atik said.
Mr Atik said he had taken religious instruction from Mr Benbrika – known as "the Sheikh" and "the Chief" – after meeting him in early 2004. He said Mr Benbrika told him about a month after the raids in 2005 that funds had been taken during the police and ASIO actions.
‘ We'll damage buildings, blast things.’ After 11 September, it’s not easy.
SECRET RECORDING
In secretly recorded conversations between Mr Atik and Mr
Benbrika, which were played to the jury and Justice Bernard Bongiorno, Mr Benbrika said: "We'll damage buildings, blast things. Has to be proper because it is very difficult to get them. I mean, especially the product. After 11 September, it's not easy." The conversations were allegedly held on March 4, 2005.
Mr Atik said Mr Benbrika and another accused man, Aimen Joud, had each shown him videotapes of beheadings. The video
shown at Mr Benbrika's house depicted a non-Muslim man being beheaded … after a short sermon … by a masked man standing behind him.
He said Mr Benbrika had told him: "This is the type of things we should learn."
Mr Atik was giving evidence at the trial of 12 men, including Mr Benbrika, charged with intentionally being members of a terrorist organisation involved in the fostering or preparation of a terrorist act.
[Picture] Final attack: The 2005 AFL grand final was a terrorist target, a Melbourne jury was told yesterday.
It is alleged that the act or threat involved the use of a bomb or weapons in pursuit of violent jihad with the intention of coercing or intimidating the Government or the public. Ten of the men also face other terror-related charges. The accused have all pleaded not guilty.
Late yesterday, Mr Atik told Remy Van de Wiel, for Mr Benbrika, during cross-examination he had received psychiatric treatment after hearing voices and apparent hallucinations.
He said he had stopped taking medication for schizophrenia
and stomach ulcers. Mr Van de Wiel asked if Mr Atik said last August that one of the voices was called Andrew, and that (Andrew) told Mr Atik to do bad things.
Mr Atik said: "I don't know. If you say so … Well, I have since then been doing very well … And I don't have no hallucinations, I don't hear no voices."
He denied Mr Van de Wiel's suggestion that he lied about his symptoms to be treated differently by the NSW courts.
Mr Atik agreed with Mr Van de Wiel that he had dishonesty convictions, had been unfaithful to his wife, had had a gambling problem and had suffered memory loss after a head injury.
Earlier, he told prosecutor Richard Maidment that he had engaged in credit card fraud in 2004 and 2005 to help members of the alleged terror group.
He said Mr Joud had asked him to get at least 10 firearms – handguns or semi-automatic weapons – and explosives, for the group, but he did not.
The trial continues. #
[RECAPITULATION: Mr Atik said Mr Benbrika and another accused man, Aimen Joud, had each shown him videotapes of beheadings.
ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be Allah's words):
{Click:} 6:70 (or 6:69).
{Read:} 22:19 (or 22:20):- … But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads.
< www. submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7):- When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Bukhari's, 6, 60:250:-
[***] Said said 'They found boys playing and Al-Khadir got hold of a handsome infidel boy laid him down and then slew him with a knife. [***]
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/060. sbt.html# 006.060.250 >.
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[Apr 16, 08]
[Extracts from] Rudd Labor signals focus on religious values.
[Extracts from] Rudd Labor signals focus on religious values
The Record
(R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
by Paul Gray, Extract from pp 1 and 6, April 16, 2008
A senior strategist in the Australian Labor Party has given voice to the Rudd Government's recognition of the place of religion and religious education in national life.
… senior Labor MP Bob McMullan has commended the religious role in promoting respect for human dignity, fairness and justice.
Australia is a secular nation, one in which there is dynamic religious and cultural diversity [… ]
… he led the Australian delegation to the Fourth International Dialogue on Interfaith Co-operation for Peace and Harmony, held in the Cambodian capital Phnom Penh this month.
The Dialogue was initiated in 2004 by then-Foreign Minister Alexander Downer, in a joint initiative with the Government of Indonesia.
It was designed to bring about faith-to-faith consultation between Muslims in Indonesia and people of other faiths, at a time of rising concern over Islamic extremism. [… ]
… to this end Australia co-hosted a Regional Youth Interfaith Forum in December. [… ]
Mr McMullan said [… ] People at the grassroots level
… need to be encouraged to be open to other faiths … become involved in interfaith co-operation.
[RECAPITULATION: … senior Labor MP Bob McMullan has commended the religious role in promoting respect for human dignity, fairness and justice.
Australia is a secular nation, one in which there is dynamic religious and cultural diversity [… ]
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Respect for justice, from a religion that teaches women are "toys," and can be scourged by their husbands? He commended the religious role! Most of the Labor Ministry declined to swear on the Bible but inisted on a solemn declaration at the "swearing-in" ceremony last December. Pull the other leg, Bob!
"Dynamic religious diversity" and "religious education" -- with the Cambden Council refusing to allow a Muslim school to be built, terrorist charges pending, arson attacks on a WA Muslim school, and according to a January 31, 2007, report, the Australian Islamic college in WA under investigation for suspected fraud! Open both eyes, please!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
34:33 (or 34:32 or 34:34):- … And yokes will We place on the necks of those who have not believed! …
48:29:- … those who follow Him are tender to one another, but ruthless to unbelievers. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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[April 16, 2008]
Indonesia to ban Islamic sect amid pressure from hard-liners.
[Victim Ahmadis might be charged]
Indonesia to ban Islamic sect amid pressure from hard-liners
International Herald Tribune,
www.iht.com/ articles/ap/ 2008/04/17/ asia/AS-GEN- Indonesia- Islamic- Sect.php ,
Published: April 17, 2008
JAKARTA, Indonesia: A government team has recommended that Indonesia outlaw a Muslim sect that has come under attack from hard-liners as heretical, angering human rights activists who accuse authorities of cowing to pressure from extremists.
The Ahmadi movement has faced bans and persecution in Muslim countries around the world for its belief in another prophet after Muhammad. The group insists it should be considered part of Islam.
A government team of prosecutors, religious scholars and home affairs department officials concluded that the sect "had deviated from Islamic principles" and recommended Wednesday that the government ban it.
"Their activities are causing unrest among Muslims," team leader Wishnu Subroto said Thursday.
The government was to meet Thursday to discuss the recommendation, media reports said. The team recommended Ahmadi followers be charged with "insulting a religion" … a charge that carries a five-year jail term.
A prominent human rights activist said any ban "cannot be justified and should be regarded as a serious violation of the constitution," referring to clauses guaranteeing freedom of religion.
"This recommendation shows that board's members do not understand the real function of the state," said Hendardi, who goes by a single name.
Hard-liners have led an increasingly vocal campaign against Ahmadi in recent years, often vandalizing its mosques and the homes of its followers. In many cases, police made no attempt to stop the attackers.
"We are the victims here, yet we are being banned," Yan Hussein Lamardi, a lawyer for the group, told Koran Tempo newspaper.
The Ahmadi sect is believed to have around 200,000 followers in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation. It was founded at the end of the 19th century in Pakistan where it is banned.
Indonesia is a secular country, with a long history of religious tolerance. But in recent years, a hard-line fringe has grown louder and the government … which relies on the support of Islamic parties in parliament … has been accused of cowing to it.
Technorati Tags: Ahmadiyya, Ahmadi #
[COMMENT: Now, can Westerners see why fervent Muslims, or their descendants, cannot integrate into a society that thinks it is wrong that the VICTIMS, such as rape or discrimination victims, ought to be declared illegal? The sect is causing unrest, so ban it and start despoiling them of their money. Or will their mosques be destroyed by state bulldozers, as happened to the teapot sect in a Malaysian state? -- "Banned teapot sect faces wrath of
law," The West Australian, p 42, Wednesday, August 3, 2005.
Maybe a mullah will order deaths?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[EXAMPLES: In July and August 1988, the Islamic regime had executed in secret thousands of political prisoners throughout the country - men, women and teenagers.
-- "Forgotten massacre; The Ayatollah's hidden legacy,"
New Internationalist, Currents section; by Veronique Mistiaen, p 25, January-February 2006 issue.
"Whoever offends our Prophet Mohammed should be killed on the spot by the nearest Muslim," Sheikh Abubukar Hassan Malin told worshippers at a mosque in southern Mogadishu.
-- "Benedict ‘deeply sorry’ for Muslim outrage but violence continues," CathNews, www.cathnews. com/news/701/ 17.php , September 18, 2006.
ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sunan Abu-Dawud's, Book 19, Number 2998:-
Narrated A man from the companions of the Prophet: [***]
He turned away from them and attacked Banu an-Nadir with an army. He fought with them until they agreed to expulsion. Banu an-Nadir were deported, and they took with them whatever their camels could carry, that is, their property, the doors of their houses, and their wood. Palm-trees were exclusively reserved for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him). Allah bestowed them upon him and gave them him as a special portion.
He (Allah), the Exalted, said: What Allah has bestowed on His Apostle (and taken away) from them, for this ye made no expedition with either camel corps or cavalry." [… ]
TRADITION ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: By courtesy of Religion News Blog, www.religion newsblog. com/21211/ ahmadiyya-2 , Item 21211 © Posted: Saturday April 19, 2008
ENDS.]
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[April 19, 2008]
Chaldean envoy lashes out at US.
Chaldean envoy lashes out at US
The Tablet (RC paper, Britain),
www.thetablet. co.uk/articles/ 11332 , "Church in the World,"
by Ellen Teague, April 19, 2008
Lack of American government planning for Iraq and a weak Iraqi Government are behind the huge numbers of Iraqis fleeing the country, according to the Chaldean Catholic Church's representative to the Vatican, writes Ellen Teague.
"The US and coalition troops are not showing they have any strategy for the future of this country," Mgr Philip Najim told the news agency of the Italian Bishops' Conference last week, ahead of Pope Benedict XVI's visit to the United States.
He said that inadequate schools, hospitals, transport and other services were worrying Iraqis and, in the face of ongoing violence, "the Iraqi Government is unable to guarantee security and respect human dignity".
He challenged the US-led coalition and Iraqi leaders to account for expenditure of oil income. The haemorrhaging of more than two million people from Iraq in the last five years includes a high percentage of Christians repeatedly targeted in sectarian violence.
Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, said last week that the papal visit to the US should "absolutely not" be seen as support of President George W. Bush and his stance on Iraq. #
[RECAPITULATION: … The haemorrhaging of more than two million people from Iraq in the last five years …
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: And is the death toll more than one million? Remember, most of the threats Saddam Hussein's regime supposedly posed to the world proved to be non-existent before, and after, the illegal invasion.
Coalition of the Killing "deputy sheriff" HOWODD told Australian television in 2003, when asked how long Aussie troops would be required in Iraq, "Months rather than years."
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Apr 19, 08]
Honour killing's Aussie link.
Honour killing’s Aussie link
The Weekend Australian,
ausletr@news corp.com.au ,
www.the australian. news.com. au/story/ 0,25197,236 00452-601, 00.html ,
by Sian Powell, pp 1 and 2, April 26-27, 2008
MORTALLY wounded and bleeding profusely, Pela Atroshi covered her head with her hands, pleading "please don't shoot me, please don't shoot me". As her sister and her mother screamed, her uncle Rezkar Atroshi raised his gun and killed her. The family's honour had been cleansed.
Rezkar had already shot Pela twice in the back in the upstairs room. Helped downstairs by her mother and her younger sister, the 19-year-old Kurdish Swede was confronted by four resolute men – her father and his three brothers. The men pulled the women apart. Her youngest uncle then finished the job, shooting Pela in the head. The bullet went through one of her fingers and into her brain.
The decision to kill her was made by a council of male relatives, led by Pela's grandfather, Abdulmajid Atroshi – a Kurd who lived in Australia.
One of his sons, Shivan Atroshi, helped pull the women away from Pela so his younger brother could get a clean shot. Shivan, too, lived in Australia.
It is the first time an officially confirmed honour killing with a connection to Australia has ever publicly come to light, but it is likely there have been other Australian-connected honour crimes that have been kept hidden within the tight-lipped Australian Kurdish community.
Pela Atroshi's murder in Dohuk, in Iraqi Kurdistan, was officially deemed an honour killing by both Iraqi and Swedish authorities.
The Swedish detective inspector who investigated the murder, Kickis Aahre Algamo, said she had since heard of another honour crime with a connection to Australia – this time the attempted killing of an Australian Kurd that went awry when the girl escaped.
She told The Weekend Australian that from 2000 the Swedish authorities were in communication with Australian authorities and the Swedish embassy in Canberra about the 1999 murder of Pela Atroshi.
Breen Atroshi, Pela's younger sister, Inspector Algamo said, was still prepared to testify in any prosecution of her Australian grandfather or uncle. But it is unclear whether Pela's grandfather and uncle still live in Australia.
An Interpol investigation in 2000 found that Shivan Atroshi was not at the time living in Australia, although he may have since returned. One person in Sydney's Kurdish community said he believed the Atroshi grandfather
– once a freedom fighter – had hidden in Kurdistan, but had sporadically returned to Australia in recent years. Abdulmajid Atroshi had travelled to Stockholm with his son Shivan in 1999 to finally decide on Pela's fate.
She had made the mistake of leaving home for a time, frustrated by her family's adherence to restrictive Kurdish traditions.
"Pela's uncle, the oldest son of Abdulmajid, said if any of the unmarried girls is away from home for one night, she has to be killed," Inspector Algamo said on the phone from Stockholm.
Pela was an intelligent and good-looking girl. When she emigrated with her family to Sweden in 1995, she took to Swedish ways – eventually leaving the family home in January 1999. But after a time she missed her parents and six younger brothers and sisters and returned, agreeing to an arranged marriage in Kurdistan. It was a front – the men in her family had decided to kill her in their home town of Dohuk, northern Iraq, where honour killings were considered minor crimes, and where the Atroshi clan commanded immense respect.
The UN Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women, Yakin Erturk, in a report last year to the Human Rights Council, said she had been told that a "family council of male relatives living in Sweden and Australia decided that Pela had to die to cleanse the family honour".
The men of the family – Pela's father, Agid, and her three uncles, Australian Shivan, and Swedish Rezkar and Dakhaz – arranged for Pela to go to Kurdistan in June 1999 so they could kill her. Her grandfather remained in Sweden, saying, according to the testimony of Pela's younger sister Breen, "I will not set foot in Kurdistan until Pela is dead".
In October 1999, in Iraq, Agid and Rezkar were convicted of her murder, and sentenced to one-year suspended jail terms. The court referred to a medical report that said "her hymen was broken" and to the "defendants' honourable motivation".
A higher court later ordered that the sentences be served, but by that time, the two Swedes, Rezkar and Dakhaz, had returned to Stockholm, where they were arrested. Inspector Algamo and a fellow officer had travelled to Turkey to bring a key witness, Pela's sister Breen, back to Sweden. Breen was the first to raise the alarm, ringing the Swedish police from Dohuk to report her sister's murder.
Breen was brought by a delegation of Kurds to the Swedish embassy in Ankara, Turkey. "I got a couple of minutes alone with her, and she said, 'I want to go home and I want to testify for my sister Pela'," said Inspector Algamo, who is now compiling a report on honour crimes.
"We rushed her away to a waiting embassy car and drove as fast as possible to the airport."
In Sweden, Breen testified in the trials of her uncles – who had been arrested in January 2000 and who were liable to prosecution because Pela's murder was planned in Stockholm. Breen condemned her elders in court. She now lives in hiding.
On January 12, 2001, the Stockholm City Court convicted both men of murder and sentenced them to life imprisonment. Their sentences were confirmed on appeal. Pela's father Agid remained in Kurdistan. He is still wanted for murder in Sweden.
"When we counted all the ones involved in the planning (of Pela's murder) there were 11," Inspector Algamo said. "But some of them were Australian citizens and some of them were Iraqi citizens – we could only prosecute three of them."
Swedish deputy chief prosecutor Agnetha Hilding Qvarnstrom explained that while there had been contact with the Australian authorities regarding the Atroshi case it had not culminated in an official extradition request.
Since the murder was planned in Sweden and committed in Iraq, it also seems unlikely Australia could take any action.
In Australia, Muhammad Kamal, a lecturer in philosophy at Melbourne University, remembers Pela's grandfather, Abdulmajid Atroshi – the patriarch.
In the early 1990s, Dr Kamal had been broadcasting a Kurdish program on SBS radio, and Atroshi was behind a campaign to have the program taken off air because he believed it was preaching immorality.
"He was a practising Muslim and a tribal man," Dr Kamal said, adding that religious leaders in Kurdistan never condemned honour crimes because they believed it was an essential bulwark against immorality. "I haven't heard any statement from clergy in the region to say honour killing is wrong," he said.
In recent years, with the diaspora from tribal regions, there are honour killings connected to a number of nations in Europe – and now to Australia. Inspector Algamo has also been told that in 2004 or 2005 an Australian girl connected to the Atroshi clan was in the same position as Pela.
"I was told by my informers that the Australian girl was taken to Kurdistan in the summer on vacation," Inspector Algamo said. "She had a forbidden love or something, they were also planning to kill her." The girl discovered the plans and fled, assisted by an American soldier who helped to smuggle her out of the country.
She said the Australian Kurdish community staged two demonstrations in front of the Swedish embassy in Canberra insisting on the Atroshi men's innocence.
Unni Wikan, a Norwegian academic who has written a recent book on honour crimes titled In Honour of Fadime, has looked carefully at the Atroshi case. She said the horrors persisted. "In Sweden there is a development now called balcony suicide," she said, adding the deaths were really camouflaged honour killings.
Inspector Algamo said her research into honour crimes had been difficult. "So many murders, so many girls who fall from the balcony, so many false suicides," she said.
"There is huge pressure on girls to take their own lives. They don't have the right to their own bodies, because their bodies are owned by the clan."
powells@theaustralian.com.au #
[RECAPITULATION: "Pela's uncle, the oldest son of Abdulmajid, said if any of the unmarried girls is away from home for one night, she has to be killed," Inspector Algamo said on the phone from Stockholm. [… ]
… in Iraq, Agid and Rezkar were convicted of her murder, and sentenced to
one-year suspended jail terms. The court referred to a medical report that said "her hymen was broken" and to the "defendants' honourable motivation". [… ]
"When we counted all the ones involved in the planning (of Pela's murder) there were 11," Inspector Algamo said. [… ]
She said the Australian Kurdish community staged two demonstrations in front of the Swedish embassy in Canberra insisting on the Atroshi men's innocence.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: "Honour"? Isn't there the "Honourable Society" among the Mafia-type gangs? At least they didn't kill their own womenfolk, and sometimes were chivalrous to women and children!
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Apr 26-27, 2008]
Hilali tells Christian women to wear veils
Hilali tells Christian women to wear veils
The Weekend Australian,
ausletr@news corp.com.au ,
www.the australian. news.com.au/ story/0,251 97,23599263- 5006784, 00.html ,
By Natalie O'Brien | p 2, April 26-27, 2008
AUSTRALIA –
Outspoken cleric writes book on veils
The Bible 'mandates' Christian women wear them
Anglican bishops says comments are misleading
OUTSPOKEN Muslim cleric Taj al-Din al-Hilali says the Bible "mandates" the wearing of the veil by Christian women.
Writing in a new book, Sheik Hilali, who lost his job as mufti of Australia after comparing scantily clad women to uncovered meat, argues that the Bible and the Koran make similar demands of a woman's modesty.
Sheik Hilali, who remains the head of Australia's largest mosque, in the southwestern Sydney suburb of Lakemba, says the purpose of the book is to show the commonalities of Islam with the Jewish and Christian faiths when it comes to women's modesty and clothing.
In the soon to be published The Legitimacy of the Veil for Women of the Scripture - Evidence of the Veil in the Bible, the cleric points to references in the Old and New Testaments to women wearing a veil.
"Through this I hope to raise awareness and understanding and eliminate apprehensions and misunderstandings about the veil," he writes.
The Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Robert Forsyth, challenged Sheik Hilali's comments about the veil being "mandated" in the Bible, saying they were misleading.
"The New Testament does call upon people to dress modestly," he said. "But there is no understanding that women are commanded to wear the veil. But it is mandated that you should dress appropriately for your social context."
Sheik Hilali also says the Virgin Mary is often depicted with a veil covering her head.
"The veil upholds the modesty and protects the dignity of women, whether Muslim or non-Muslim," he writes. "Wearing the veil creates the most realistic similarity with the Virgin Mary, the mother of Christ."
Sheik Hilali caused an uproar with a Ramadan sermon in 2006 in which he talked about immodestly dressed women being like "uncovered meat" and made remarks about Sydney's notorious gang rapes.
He has used the book to hit back at criticisms of his comments, which were given during a lesson to Muslim men and women on theft and adultery, and which he says were misinterpreted with "ill-intent" and with the intention to "slander" him.
He has included an "explanatory statement" to clarify his position, saying that rape is a heinous crime and the perpetrator deserves the maximum punishment. He also says women in Australia, or any Western society, have absolute freedom to wear whatever they like.
"The Muslim has no right to impose the rules of his religion on others. My religious duty is to advise the Muslim woman to be modest and to wear the Islamic dress. It is her choice whether to comply or not."
He said his comments about uncovered meat were drawn from an analogy used by the Arab writer Al-Rafii that uncovering flesh publicly may be degrading to the woman and may make her vulnerable to those with a diseased heart.
"Through these words I wanted to protect women from rapists who have lost their humanity, lost their minds and religion.
"Whilst I believe that the rapists are responsible for their crimes, I wanted to protect my daughters by encouraging them to adopt all available lawful means of protection," he writes.
Sheik Hilali concedes that the uncovered meat example was not correct or appropriate for the Western mentality.
"I did not mean this analogy to denigrate immodestly dressed women; rather I meant to denigrate those men who set aside their humanity and turn into predators." #
[KORAN (said to be Allah's words):
{Regarding the veil, plus people in enforced servitude, click:} 33:55
33:59 (or 33:57):- Prophet, enjoin your wives, your daughters, and the wives of true believers to draw their outer garments [or "veils"] close round them. …
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/033. qmt.html #033.059 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's, 8, 74: 257:-
Narrated 'Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Apostle "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam'a went out and she was a tall woman. 'Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while he was in a gathering, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He ('Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women). So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes).
{Regarding sex without consent, click:} 9, 86:98:
{Regarding ditto, and men who "turn into predators", read:} Sahih Muslim's, Bk 8, No. 3371:-
… 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). …
TRADITION ENDS.]
[VERSE by Harmonica Samuels:
Aussie chicks -- don't wear those veils,
Just cover up your tops and tails.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: In the light of their texts, the only comment is to wonder whether this Anglican bishop has fully woken up, and why didn't his Church warn Australian governments 50 years ago, with centuries of Barbary Corsairs taking Christian slaves including people from the British Isles, including a shore raid, all supposedly in the name of their religion.
ENDS.]
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[April 26-27, 2008]
Uni chief lifted Islam text from Wikipedia.
Uni chief lifted Islam text from Wikipedia
The Weekend Australian,
http:// www.the australian. news.com.au/ story/0,25197, 23600451- 12332,00. html ,
ausletr@news corp.com.au ,
by Michael Sainsbury, pp 1 and 4, April 26-27, 2008
QUEENSLAND –
GRIFFITH University vice-chancellor Ian O'Connor has admitted lifting information straight from online encyclopedia Wikipedia and confusing strands of Islam as he struggled to defend his institution's decision to ask the repressive Saudi Arabian Government for funding.
Professor O'Connor also appears to have breached his own university's standards on plagiarism as they apply to students' academic work
– a claim he denies. And he appears to have ignored his own past misgivings about Wikipedia and internet-based research.
In September, The Australian revealed that the Queensland university had accepted a grant of $100,000 from the Saudi Government. Last week, it was revealed that Griffith had asked the Saudi embassy in Australia for a $1.37 million grant for its Islamic Research Unit, telling the ambassador that certain elements of the controversial deal could be kept a secret.
Griffith – described by Professor O'Connor as the "university of choice" for Saudis – also offered the embassy a chance to "discuss" ways in which the money could be used.
Professor O'Connor's response to The Australian's revelations, which was published as an opinion article in the newspaper on Thursday, contained whole passages of text "cut and pasted" from Wikipedia.
Continued Page 4; Editorial Page 16; Inquirer Page 22
University chief admits lifting Islam text from Wikipedia
"The primary doctrine of Unitarianism is Tawhid, or the uniqueness and unity of God," Professor O'Connor wrote. "Wahhab also preached against a perceived moral decline and
political weakness in the Arabian peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation."
The Wikipedia entry for Wahhabism reads: "The primary doctrine of Wahhabism is Tawhid, or the uniqueness and unity of God . He preached against a 'perceived moral decline and political weakness' in the Arabian peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation."
Professor O'Connor, whose academic credentials are in social work and juvenile justice, appears 'to have substituted the word Unitarianism for Wahhabism.
He has now admitted that the substitution, which came under fire from religious commentators, was not appropriate.
In a statement issued yesterday, Professor O'Connor acknowledged his article "relied on several sources, and requires further clarity on Unitarianism".
Wikipedia Wahhabism
The primary doctrine of
Wahhabism is Tawhid, or the uniqueness and unity of God … He preached against a 'perceived moral decline and political weakness' in the Arabian peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation.
A Wikipedia entry for Wahhabism
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The primary doctrine of
Unitarianism is Tawhid, or the uniqueness and unity of God.Wahhab also preached against a perceived moral decline and political weakness in the Arabian peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation.
Griffith University vice-chancellor Ian O'Connor writing in an opinion piece published in The Australian on Thursday
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"The article was based on material provided by senior staff and in pulling it together, a small number of sentences were not directly attributed; this was not intentional," he said in the statement. "It was prepared as a
newspaper article for Thursday's Australian aiming to put the issue into context and communicate to the public the importance of the work of Griffith's Islamic Research Unit."
In September, Professor O'Connor expressed concern over Wikipedia and web-based research.
"I am somewhat more ambivalent about Wikipedia: it and other sites in the world wide web seem to be changing social negotiation and the transfer of knowledge," he said in a paper presented with fellow academic Gavin Moodie.
Wikipedia itself advises "special caution" when its material is used as a source for research projects.
Professor O'Connor denies that by lifting sentences from Wikipedia he has breached his university's guidelines on plagiarism as it relates to academic research.
The Griffith University council, of which Professor O'Connor is an ex-officio member, considers plagiarism an example of academic misconduct.
The policy – approved by the council on March 5 last year – defines plagiarism as "knowingly presenting the work or property of another person as if it were one's own".
It gives an example of plagiarism as "word for word copying of sentences or paragraphs from one or more sources which are the work or data of other persons (including books, articles, thesis, unpublished works, working papers, seminar and conference papers, internal reports, lecture notes or tapes) without clearly identifying their origin by appropriate referencing".
Professor O'Connor yesterday tried to distance himself from the university's standards.
"It was not as a piece of academic scholarship, therefore did not follow normal citation methods used in academic publications," he said.
On Wednesday, Professor O'Connor published a full copy of his opinion piece on the Griffith website. Yesterday, the university added references to Wikipedia as footnotes.
Griffith University council member 0wight Zakus, senior lecturer at the university's Department of Tourism, Leisure, Hotel and Sports Management, said he "strongly discouraged" his students from using Wikipedia as an academic reference.
"I think there are other, better sources," said Dr Zakus, who was elected to the council in October 2006.
He said it was "problematic" for Professor O'Connor not to acknowledge he used Wikipedia as a source for his piece for The Australian.
Griffith rival, the University of Queensland, frowns on the use of Wikipedia as an academic source.
UQ's School of Political Science and International Studies essay guide states that "online user-updated encyclopedias (such as Wikipedia)" should not be cited in an essay.
"If you do find useful information from a doubtful site, try to find the same information from a more reputable source," the guide says. "If you can do so, then use the reputable source as your reference. If you cannot, then do not use the information at all."
Professor O'Connor's use of the term Unitarianism has also drawn criticism from ABC religion journalists and commentators Rachael Kohn, John Cleary and Stephen Crittenden, as well as the Henry Thornton website.
"Ian O'Connor's equation of Wahhabism and Salafism with Unitarianism is utter nonsense," the ABC commentators wrote.
"Unitarianism emerged as a liberal Christian movement and gained ground in the early years of American democracy."
Professor O'Connor now admits the term was misused.
"Responding to today's Australian article, which criticised my use of the word Unitariaism in the article, I draw on the expertise of Dr Mohamad Abdalla, director of our Islamic Research Institute, who is one of Australia's most highly regarded Islamic scholars, to clarify the issue," Professor O'Connor said.
"Dr Abdalla confirms the more correct label is Muwahiddun, rather than the popular but problematic term Wahhabism," he said.
Additional reporting: Sarah Elks #
[COMMENT: Come on, 'fess up! An unchurched undergraduate changed a bit here and there of the Wikipedia material for you, didn't he? And you don't even realise that Islam isn't like a wallaby, to be delighted in and studied, but more like a much tinier organism.
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[April 26-27, 2008]
Da'wa - Islamic mission - Part 1: What is Da'wa? [Dawa Part 1]
Barnabas Aid magazine,
www. barnabas fund.org , Pull-out Supplement, May-June 2008
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This series of pull-out supplements is intended to provide background information for Christians seeking to understand the nature of Islam and its contemporary expression. One aspect of this relates to understanding the reason for the oppression and persecution of Christians in various Islamic parts of the world, and another to the growing challenge which Islam poses to Western society, culture and Church.
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Da'wa - Islamic mission, Pt. 1
Islam, like Christianity, has a missionary dimension, and actively seeks to make converts. Da'wa (literally meaning "call" or "invitation") is the name Muslims give to their missionary work i.e. a call or invitation to Islam. Muslims are active in da'wa all around the world, in Muslim contexts and in non-Muslim contexts, particularly Africa. There is also much da'wa work taking place in the West.
Yahya (Jonathan) Birt, son of Lord Birt, former Director of the BBC, and a convert to Islam, told the London Asharq Alawsat newspaper in August 2006 that there were 16,000 converts to Islam in Britain. He claimed that there were many celebrities among them. Some observers think the numbers are much higher; one suggestion is 60,000. Well known British converts to Islam include Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) the former pop singer who converted in 1977; Jemima Goldsmith, socialite millionaire's daughter who married Pakistani cricket star Imran Khan in 1995; Yvonne Ridley, a journalist captured by the Taliban who converted on her release in 2001; and world snooker champion Ronnie O'Sullivan, who converted in 2003.
A similar trend of conversion to Islam is noticeable in all Western states. A study financed by the German Federal Ministry of the Interior and conducted by the Islam-Archive Central Institute found that approximately 4,000 Germans converted to Islam in 2006 alone. In the USA it is estimated that the number of converts to Islam could be as high as 1.2 million; of these some 55% are thought to be African-Americans.
A significant number of converts in the West are white women, some disillusioned with the breakdown of community and spirituality in Western society. Others fall in love with Muslim men and want to marry them. 1
In Islam, marriage to non-Muslim women is a legitimate means of da'wa. Some Muslim men deliberately target vulnerable Western women for marriage, sometimes to obtain visas, other times for temporary companionship and sexual gratification while they are away from their home country.
Some converts in the West are male prisoners, often of African or Caribbean origin, who seem to embrace Islam as a way of retaliating against the society that locked them up. One example is Richard Reid, the 2001 "shoe-bomber".
A multitude of books, pamphlets and internet websites give guidance on how to become a Muslim. These stress the simplicity and ease of the act of conversion, which consists of reciting the Islamic creed (the shahada): "There is no god but God and Muhammad is the apostle of God."
All one needs to do is pronounce the "Shahada", the testimony of faith, without further delay. The "Shahada" is the first and most important of the five pillars of Islam. With the pronunciation of this testimony, or "Shahada", with sincere belief and conviction, one enters the fold of Islam. 2
Da'wa in the Islamic source texts
The term da'wa, in the sense of a call and an invitation to Islam, is used more than a dozen times in the Qur'an. A key verse is:
Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best who have strayed from His Path and who receive guidance. (Q 16:125)
The hadith traditions, which record Muhammad's words and deeds, establish da'wa as a main activity of Muhammad's work and therefore to be replicated by his followers. For example, one hadith records that Muhammad sent one of his followers to Yemen to convert its people to Islam:
Narrated by Ibn Abbas
Thy Prophet sent Muadh to Yemen and said, "Invite the people to testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and I am Allah's Apostle, and if they obey you to do so, then teach them that Allah has enjoined on them five prayers in every day and night (in twenty-four hours), and if they obey you to do so, then teach them that Allah has made it obligatory for them to pay the Zakat from their property and it is to be taken from the wealthy among them and given to the poor." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Hadith 2.478)
The wide scope of
da'wa
Da'wa has two dimensions, external and internal. External da'wa is the call to non-Muslims to accept Islam, while the internal da'wa targets Muslims in an effort to revive their faith and commitment.
Da'wa is not limited to efforts at converting individuals. It includes efforts at converting whole societies so as to establish Islamic states or at least enclaves ruled by Islam. The idea is that these will serve as a model to non-Muslims of Islam's power and benefits, as well as a base for further expansion.
Da'wa is not just the duty of individual Muslims, but also of Muslim states who are responsible for converting non-Islamic states to Islam following Muhammad's model.
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1 For more about problems faced by women converting in order to marry a Muslim, see Rosemary Sookhdeo, Stepping into the Shadows: Why Women Convert to Islam, 2nd edition, Pewsey, Wiltshire: Isaac Publishing, 2007. This title can be purchased from your national Barnabas Fund office or by visiting www.barnabas fund.org/_ shop/barnabas books.php
2 "The religion of Islam - How to convert to Islam and become a Muslim",
http://www. islamreligion. com/articles/ 204/ , viewed 7 March 2008.
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[Picture of a sword stabbing through a cross, with blood dripping] The Missionary Invasion; Published by Al-Muhajiroun; The Voice, the Eyes and the Ears of the Muslims
This graphic image from a British Muslim group indicates the negative attitude of most Muslims to Christian mission and evangelism
This is the impetus behind the intensive missionary efforts of Muslim states such as Saudi Arabia (see below).
For some contemporary Muslims, the priority of da'wa at this time in history is the establishment of true Islamic states in Muslim countries. Therefore they strive to change the regimes of most Muslim states, to replace them with true Islamic states, ruled by shari'a.
Da'wa and jihad
Da'wa is also linked to jihad, as both have the same aim: to spread Islam and its-dominion. Da'wa can be seen as a call to jihad against tho'se who reject Islam. In classical Islam, the Islamic state issued a call (da'wa) to its non-Muslim enemies to submit to Islam either by converting to Islam or by accepting dhimmi status with all its demeaning regulations. If they refused both options, jihad was waged against them. Jihad then created the conditions in which conversion to Islam could easily take place, supported by state institutions and without opposition from enemy forces.
While da'wa can be propagated by peaceful means of persuasion, jihad enables it to function freely to its fullest extent. Da'wa is most effective when the state enforces shari'a and supports da'wa with all its resources. Thus Islamist movements like the Muslim Brotherhood see themselves as committed to both da'wa and jihad, or rather see both as different stages in the same enterprise. Fathi Yakan, leader of the Lebanese branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, explains the synergy between jihad and da'wa:
{Da'wah} is a call for Jihad since it calls for preparation for Jihad by all its forms and means so that truth may have the force to protect it and that the Da'wah may be able to face the challenges and surmount the barriers. Force is the surest way to establish the truth and how beautiful it would be if truth and force went side by side. Thus Jihad for the spread of Islam and the protection of the holy places of Islam is another obligation which Allah made compulsory on the Muslims
Contemporary forced conversions as part of da'wa-jihad
There are sadly many contemporary examples of forced conversions to Islam in the context of jihad. Examples include the civil war in Sudan (1983-2005) and the anti-Christian atrocities in the Indonesian Malukus and Central Sulawesi (1998-2002). In Iraq, since the downfall of the Saddam regime in 2003, Christians, Mandeans and Yazidis have faced the threat from radical Islamists of being killed unless they convert to Islam.
This attitude is also evident in the many cases where Muslims offer aid and relief to non-Muslim victims of natural disasters or war on condition that the recipients convert to Islam. Such incidents have taken place in Sudan during the civil war, in Indonesia following the December 2004 tsunami, and in Pakistan following the 2005 earthquake.
In Peshawar, Pakistan, a threatening letter was distributed among the Christian community in August 2007, calling on them to convert to Islam or face death and ruin:
God is Great
Long live Islam
Long live Jihad (Holy war)
Death to Infidels
All the residents are openly invited to abandon the infidel
religion, that is Christianity, embrace Islam and become
Muslims, and you will make home for yourself in heaven.
Otherwise
your colony will be ruined. You will be responsible for
the death and destruction of your families.
Be prepared.
This is not just a threat, our suicide attackers will
eliminate you.
In post-Saddam Iraq, similar letters have been sent to Christians by both Sunni and Shi'a radical militias, demanding their conversion to Islam or the payment of the jizya tax (a sign of dhimmi status), and threatening those who refused with death unless they fled.
Converts as a security risk
A very different kind of link between da'wa and jihad is found in the number of converts to Islam who are active in violent jihad. One of the perpetrators of the July 2005 London suicide bombings, Germaine Lindsay, had converted to Islam five years earlier. Muriel Degauque, a Belgian convert to Islam, attacked American troops in a suicide attack near Baghdad in November 2005. Of 14 people arrested because of their links to her, half were converts to Islam. Three of the suspects in the 2006 plot to bomb transatlantic airliners were recent converts to Islam. Two of the three suspects arrested in Germany in September 2007 on charges of plotting to detonate large bombs made with concentrated hydrogen peroxide were converts to Islam. Filipinos who have converted to Islam while working in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf and then returned home have formed the extremist Rajah Solaiman Movement based in Manila and northern Luzon. It has been linked to established Islamist terrorist groups in the south and has helped them gain a foothold in urban areas.
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[RECAPITULATION:
Sharia permits the forced conversion to Islam of pagans, prisoners of war, female slaves, captured and abandoned children, and apostates.
When the Almohad Muslims conquered the province of Ifriqiyya (modern Tunisia) they offered Jews and Christians the choice between conversion to Islam or death. Similar policies were followed in other areas in North Africa and Spain that came under Almohad control. Many thousands who refused to convert were slaughtered. RECAP. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: So, they don't believe in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights about freedom of religion, the Geneva Convensions on the rights of prisoners of war, the international conventions against slavery, or the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Well, that should make dialogue with Islamists short and explosive!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[DEFINITION: Qur'an in many books and papers is printed "Koran;" note that in the text above "Q" is used as an abbreviation. ENDS.]
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[May-June 2008]
[Robert Collins warned the world: Died]
LIFE LINES
[Robert Collins warned the world: Died.]
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
"Life Lines," p 45, Thursday, May 1, 2008
Robert Collins,75. US academic co-wrote Alms for Jihad: Charity and Terrorism in the Islamic World (2006), which was threatened with a defamation lawsuit. UK publisher Cambridge University Press apologised to Sheikh Khalid bin Mahfouz and destroyed unsold copies. Died: April 11.
[COMMENT: What was that about Free Speech? The Universal Declaration of Human Rights? ENDS.]
[AVAILABLE perhaps at:
http://www. powells.com/ cgi-bin/ biblio? isbn= 9780521857307 &atch=h &atchi= 114395229 . ENDS.]
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[May 01, 2008]
Muslims condemn 'explicit' course.
Muslims condemn explicit’ course
The Weekend Australian,
ausletr@news corp.com.au ,
by Natalie O'Brien, p 7, May 3-4, 2008
AUSTRALIA –
ANGRY Muslim groups have attacked the University of Western Sydney over an Islamic studies course they claim is too sexually explicit, promotes lesbianism and derides the Koran as misogynistic.
Students, community members and the Australian National Imams Council have complained about the content of the course, Women in Arabic and Islamic Literature, being taught at the Centre of Excellence for Islamic Studies. They say it gives a negative view of women in Islam.
The imams council has circulated a petition recording its "deep concern with regards to the course structure and content, saying it involved repeated and unjustified attacks upon Islam".
Another group, Muslims for Peace, has branded the centre as "evil" and demanded lecturer Samar Habib be dismissed and the course abolished.
"Now that its wicked nature should be crystal clear for all to see, Muslims should fear Almighty Allah and break all connections with this diabolical centre of Kufr (non-believers)," a bulletin on the Muslims for Peace website reads.
Dr Habib has declined to comment. UWS executive dean of the College of Arts Wayne McKenna said that, although the university was yet to receive a direct complaint, it was examining the content of the course.
The National Centre of Excellence for Islamic Studies, set up last year with funding from the federal Government, operates out of three universities: the University of Melbourne, Griffith University in Queensland and UWS.
It was established to advance knowledge and understanding of Islam and to play a leadership role in public debates on contemporary Islam.
The course includes excerpts from The Perfumed Garden by Sheik Nafzawi, a book on Arabian erotica written in the 16th century and translated into English in 1886 that has been likened to the Indian Kama Sutra.
Dr Habib, who has written her PhD thesis on female homosexuality in the Middle East and has written an introduction in an erotic lesbian novel published overseas entitled I Am You, has been accused of promoting lesbianism.
Homosexuality is forbidden in the Koran for both sexes.
Dr Habib has also been accused by Muslims for Peace of teaching that it is not obligatory to wear the hijab, that the Hadiths (sayings of the Prophet Mohammed) are just Chinese whispers and that Muslim scholars can be ignored because they are males.
University of Melbourne's Sultan of Oman professor of Arab and Islamic studies, Abdullah Saeed, said concerns about the course had been raised at the centre's community consultative committee meeting this week.
"Everyone has a right to express their opinion and views and that is what is happening," Professor Saeed said.
"One of the essential things is to uphold academic freedoms and intellectual freedoms of students and the staff."
The imams' council does not believe the course represents the normative traditional Islam as practised by most of the world's Muslim population.
"The subject's emphasis on sexuality and its explicit sexual content is not reflective of normative Islam, which is what we thought the National Centre of Excellence in Islamic Studies would, attempt to portray," ANIC president Sheik Moez Nafti wrote.
Inquirer -- Page 19
[RECAPITULATION: Dr Habib has also been accused by Muslims for Peace of teaching that it is not obligatory to wear the hijab, that the Hadiths (sayings of the Prophet Mohammed) are just Chinese whispers and that Muslim scholars can be ignored because they are males.
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[1st COMMENT: Oh dear, she's right (except about the hijab or veil) -- but it won't wash with "pious" Muslims! Incitements to war against non-Muslims, and teachings that good women must be punished if their obedience is doubted, and are deficient in intelligence and religion, have been core teachings of Islam since it started in the 600s, and are not likely to change now!
Of course, Westerners who promote a homosexual person to give a course on Islam only show their intense ignorance of other cultures and religions. But to promote a woman, in a study of an all-male domination religion, only shows they are defying commonsense.
This whole sorry affair is akin to the conquering U.S. leaders in 2003 in Iraq offering some prominent Iraqis some ham sandwiches.
Is there a course on Christianity in Saudi Arabia, the university chancellors ought to be asking, and are there any bibles or churches there? Does the "eye for an eye" teaching extend to genuine reciprocity -- such as repaying GOOD actions with similar good actions?
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[2nd COMMENT: Professor Abdullah Saeed's comment, "One of the essential things is to uphold academic freedoms and intellectual freedoms of students and the staff," is just dust in the University's eyes. Islam means "submission," and in practice that is submission to the mullahs and imams in the mosque, or whoever can murder the most opponents, NOT to opinions arrived at by free discussion! Or else, why are Shiites and Sunnis blowing up each other's imams in Iraq?
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[ARTICLE: "Saudis' secret agenda," by Richard Kerbaj and Stuart Rintoul, is on Page 19 (in the Inquirer section) of the same newspaper. It includes a picture of two Saudi women at Griffith University's Mt Gravatt campus, Brisbane. In their homeland, the first women who have qualified in law are forbidden to practice law, the reasons including they are deficient in intelligence {yes, a Hadith teaching - Webmaster}, and their voices would be shameful in a court.
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[May 3-4, 2008]
Islam's "Public Enemy #1".
- Rev. Zakario Botros / Botrous, Coptic Christian.
Is this a turning of the tide?
Islam’s ‘Public Enemy #1’
Fidelity R.C. magazine (Australia),
admin@j23.com.au ,
(To read the article quoted, visit
National Review,
"Islam's 'Public Enemy #1';
Coptic priest Zakaria Botros fights fire with fire,"
By Raymond Ibrahim, March 25, 2008);
pp 16-18, (List as if May 15/08) Issue of May 2008
He's a Coptic priest in Egypt, and little known in the West. But he's been making huge waves in the Islamic world and, through his Arabic channel TV show of Christian apologetics, he's drawing scores of Muslims– secretly– into Christianity.
Coptic priest Zakaria Botros – named Islam's "Public Enemy Number 1" by the Arabic newspaper, al-Insan al-Jadid – is famous throughout the Islamic world. Or notorious, as the case may be.
He's a commentator on religious affairs and theological ideas on the Arabic channel al-Hayat (i.e., "Life TV"). Along with colleagues, many of whom are converts from Islam, Botros addresses controversial topics. He has managed to remain immune (so far) from the censorship imposed by Islamic authorities or self-imposed through fear of the zealous mobs who fulminated against the cartoons of Mohammed published in Danish newspapers. Nevertheless, his forays into obscure sections of Islamic law and tradition have vexed the Islamic leaders of the Arab world.
Raymond Ibrahim notes in his recent National Review piece:
Botros is an unusual figure onscreen: robed, with a huge cross around his neck, he sits with both the Koran and the Bible in easy reach. Egypt's Copts – members of one of the oldest Christian communities in the Middle East – have in many respects come to personify the demeaning Islamic institution of "dhimmitude" (which demands submissiveness from non-Muslims, in accordance with Koran
9:29). But the fiery Botros does not submit, and minces no words. He has famously made of Islam "ten demands," whose radical nature he uses to highlight Islam's own radical de-mands on non-Muslims. The result? Mass conversions to Christianity
– if clandestine ones. The public conversion of high-profile Italian journalist Magdi Allam – who was baptized by Pope Benedict in Rome [at Easter] – is only the tip of the iceberg. Indeed, Islamic cleric Ahmad al-Qatani stated on al-Jazeera TV a while back that some six million Muslims convert to Christianity annually, many of them persuaded by Botros's public ministry. More recently, al-Jazeera noted Life TV's "unprecedented evangelical raid" on the Muslim world.
Ibrahim lists the factors that account for Botros's success:
First, the new media – particularly satellite TV and the Internet (the main conduits for Life TV) – have made it possible for questions about Islam to be made public without fear of reprisal. It is unprecedented to hear Muslims from around the Islamic world – even from Saudi Arabia, where imported Bibles are confiscated and burned – call into the show to argue with Botros and his colleagues, and sometimes, to accept Christ.
Secondly, Botros's broadcasts are in Arabic – the language of some 200 million people, most of them Muslim. While several Western writers have published persuasive critiques of Islam, their arguments go largely unnoticed in the Islamic
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world. Botros's mastery of classical Arabic not only allows him to reach a broader audience, it enables him to delve deeply into the voluminous Arabic literature – much of it untapped by Western writers who rely on translations – and so report to the average Muslim on the discrepancies and affronts to moral common sense found within this vast corpus.
Irrefutable
A third reason for Botros's success is that his polemical technique has proven irrefutable. Each of his episodes has a theme – from the pressing to the esoteric – often expressed as a question (e.g., "Is jihad an obligation for all Muslims?" "Are women inferior to men in Islam?" "Did Mohammed say that adulterous female monkeys should be stoned?" "Is drinking the urine of prophets salutary according to sharia?"). To answer the question, Botros meticulously quotes – always careful to give sources and reference numbers – from authoritative Islamic texts on the subject, starting from the Koran; then from the canonical sayings of the prophet – the Hadith; and finally from the words of prominent Muslim theologians past and present – the illustrious ulema.
Typically, Botros's presentation of the Islamic material is sufficiently detailed that the controversial topic is shown to be an airtight aspect of Islam. Yet, however convincing his proofs, Botros does not flatly conclude that, say, universal jihad or female inferiority are basic tenets of Islam. He treats the question as still open – and humbly invites the ulema, the revered articulators of sharia law, to respond and show the error in his methodology. He does demand, however, that their response be based on "al-dalil we al-burhan" – "evidence and proof," one of his frequent refrains
– not shout-downs or sophistry.
More often than not, the response from the ulema is deafening silence – which has only made Botros and Life TV more enticing to Muslim viewers. The ulema who have publicly addressed Botros's conclusions often find themselves forced to agree with him – which has led to some amusing (and embarrassing) moments on live Arabic TV.
Botros spent three years bringing to broad public attention a scandalous – and authentic hadith stating that women should "breastfeed" strange men with whom they must spend any amount of time.
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ST FRANCIS - JUST DIALOGUE? No! CONVERSION? YES!
Far from being a pacifist, St Francis not only supported the Fifth Crusade, but also personally accompanied the Crusaders – not merely to "dialogue" with the Muslims, but to convert them. Describes in stunning detail the meeting between St Francis and the Sultan of Egypt.
[SFACM] St Francis of Assisi & the Conversion of the Muslims; F. Rega, 152 pp, Tan Books, $19.50.
WHEN THE MIGHT OF ISLAM THREATENED HIS WORLD –
Carefree young Guido finds himself fighting the Moslem armada in the Battle of Lepanto.
In this historic novel of Catholic heroism, courage and holiness, readers of all ages will be reminded that when the Faith is threatened, extraordinary valour may be demanded of any one of us– even the very young.
[BRC] The Blood-Red Crescent; Henry Garnett Sophia, 170 pp, $22.00.
The Two Faces of Islam
Stephen Schwartz analysis beliefs of the ruling Saudi families: Wahhabism - a violent, fanatical perversion of the pluralistic Islam practiced by most Muslims. He argues that this extremist position, vigorously exported with the help of Saudi oil money, is what incites Palestinian suicide bombers, Osama bin Laden and Islamic terrorism throughout the world.
[TFI] The Two Faces of Islam;
Stephen Schwartz, 346 pp, pb $30.00.
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A leading hadith scholar, Abd al-Muhdi, was confronted with this issue on the live talk show of popular Arabic host Hala Sirhan. Opting to be truthful, al-Muhdi confirmed that going through the motions of breastfeeding adult males is, according to sharia, a legitimate way of making married women "forbidden" to the men with whom they are forced into contact – the logic being that, by being "breastfed," the men become like "sons" to the women and therefore can no longer have sexual designs on them.
To make matters worse, Ezzat Atiyya, head of the Hadith department at al-Azhar University – Sunni Islam's most authoritative institution – went so far as to issue a fatwa legitimatizing "Rida' al-Kibir" (sharia's term for "breastfeeding the adult"), which prompted such outrage in the Islamic world that it was subsequently recanted.
Botros played the key role in exposing this obscure and embarrassing issue and forcing the ulema to respond. Another guest on Hala Sir-han's show,- Abd al-Fatah, slyly indicated that the entire controversy was instigated by Botros: "I know you all [fellow panelists] watch that channel and that priest and that none of you [pointing at Abd al-Muhdi] can ever respond to him, since he always documents his sources!"
Responses Demanded
There is a rumoured $5 million bounty on Fr Botros's head. How else do the Moslem leaders oppose him? By suggesting he is a lackey of international Jewry, and that his "lies" are not worth refuting. But Ibrahim notes that more and more Muslims are unsatisfied with this evasion.
The most dramatic example of this occurred on another famous show on the international station, Iqra. The host, Basma – a conservative Muslim woman in full hijab – asked two prominent ulema, including Sheikh Gamal Qutb, one-time grand mufti of al-Azhar University, to explain the legality of the Koranic verse
(4:24) that permits men to freely copulate with captive women. She repeatedly asked: "According to sharia, is slave-sex still applicable?" The two ulema would give no clear answer – dissembling here, going off on tangents there. Basma remained adamant: Muslim youth were confused, and needed a response, since "there is a certain channel and a certain man who has discussed this issue over twenty times and has received no response from you."
The flustered Sheikh Qutb roared, "low-life people like that must be totally ignored!" and stormed off the set. He later returned, but refused to admit that Islam indeed permits sex-slaves, spending his time attacking Botros instead. When Basma said "Ninety percent of Muslims, including myself, do not understand the issue of concubinage in Islam and are having a hard time swallowing it," the sheikh responded, "You don't need to understand." As for Muslims who watch and are influenced by Botros, he barked, "Too bad for them! If my son is sick and chooses to visit a mechanic, not a doctor – that's his problem!"
But the ultimate reason for Botros's success is that – unlike his Western counterparts who criticize Islam from a political standpoint – his primary interest is the salvation of souls. He often begins and concludes his programs by stating that he loves all Muslims as fellow humans and wants to steer them away from falsehood to Truth. To that end, he doesn't just expose troubling aspects of Islam. Before concluding every program, he quotes pertinent biblical verses and invites all his viewers to come to Christ.
Botros's motive is not to incite the West against Islam, promote "Israeli interests," or "demonize" Muslims, but to draw Muslims away from the dead legalism of sharia to the spirituality of Christianity. Many Western critics fail to appreciate that, to disempower radical Islam, something theocentric and spiritually satisfying – not secularism, democracy, capitalism, materialism, feminism, etc. – must be offered in its place. The truths of one religion can only be challenged and supplanted by the truths of another.
And so Father Zakaria Botros has been fighting fire with fire.
www.nationalreview.com
[KORAN (said to be Allah's words):
4:3:- … marry but two, or three, or four … or the slaves whom ye have acquired.
4:24 (or 4:28):- Forbidden to you also are married women, except those who are in your hands as slaves
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura4.html #24 >
33:50 (or 33:49):- O Prophet! We allow thee thy
wives whom thou hast dowered, and the slaves whom thy right hand possesseth out of the booty which Allah hath granted thee, and the
… .
DOCTRINE ENDS]
[HADITH: {Check if this section is the relevant one. There seem to be contradictions in this section.}:
www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ muwatta/030. mmt.html# 030.30.1.3 .
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[List as if May 15/08; May 2008]
Motorist told flag could be racist.
Motorist told flag could be racist
Wiltshire Times, www. wiltshire times.co.uk/ news/latest headlines/ display.var. 2288512.0. motorist_ told_flag_ could_be_ racist.php ,
May 24, 2008
ENGLAND –
A TEENAGE motorist was told to remove an England flag from his car by a police officer because it could be offensive to immigrants.
Ben Smith, 18, was driving back home to Ingram Road in Melksham on Thursday evening after filling up with petrol, when the officer stopped him on a routine patrol.
He checked the tax disc and tyres on his Vauxhall Corsa but when he noticed the flag of St George on the parcel shelf he told Mr Smith to take it down.
Mr Smith, who works for G Plan Upholsterers on Hampton Park West, said: "He saw the flag and said it was racist towards immigrants and if I refused to take it down I would get a £30 fine.
"I laughed because I thought he was joking, but then I realised he was serious so I had to take it down straight away. I thought it was silly - it's my country and I want to show my support for my country."
Mr Smith had recently installed new speakers in the parcel shelf of his car and wanted to cover them up so they did not get stolen.
[COMMENT: Using the Gregorian Calendar, and not speaking Arabic, could, in the eyes of some of the world's citizens, be deemed offensive. The police force ought to be "cleared" of their training in how to grovel (dhimmitude is the Arabic term), and remember that England so far has another freedom that immigrants may avail themselves of -- the freedom to emigrate.
It has been reported that Muslim enthusiasts have asked that the Royal coat-of-arms be removed from uniforms, etc., because there are crosses on the
A few years ago someone wrote a pamphlet about the Australian flag, suggesting that Muslim fundamentalists might eventually demand that it be changed -- there is the Southern Cross, and three crosses on the Union Flag in the corner. But after some Muslim burnt an Australian flag, "Mr Nice-Guy" Muslim suggested that every mosque fly the Australian flag. This gesture had the desired effect -- the great unwashed and their leaders resumed their slumbers.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Nick Maine, http:// www.nick maine.info/ .
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#motorist_told_flag
[May 24, 2008]
'Preyed-upon' Islam convert in UK blast.
‘Preyed-upon’ Islam convert in UK blast
The West Australian,
www.thewest. com.au ,
p 36, Saturday, May 24, 2008
LONDON – A Muslim convert with a history of mental illness who was "preyed upon and radicalised" injured himself when a device he was carrying exploded in a busy shopping centre in Exeter, south-west England, The Times newspaper reported yesterday.
Nicky Reilly, 22, received serious facial injuries on Thursday when the device went off at lunchtime in a family restaurant at the new £230 million ($470 million) Princesshay shopping centre, the paper said. Another device was defused by bomb disposal teams.
Devon and Cornwall Deputy Chief Constable Tony Melville said Mr Reilly had been "preyed upon, radicalised and taken advantage of", The Times said.
Police searched his home in Plymouth and he was under guard in hospital on Thursday night while he was treated for cuts to an eye and some facial burns.
Diners at the Giraffe chain said they heard three explosions in the restaurant toilets. Peter Lacey, 63, from Exeter, said: "I heard a noise which sounded like a gunshot. About a second afterwards there was another identical sound and maybe a second later a third. The staff tried to get into the toilet but it was locked and they must have called the police. They evacuated us very calmly."
Bomb disposal units found a second device outside the restaurant.
Mr Reilly's neighbours described him as "naive and easily led".
The Times quoted Daniel Turner, 20, as saying: "He changed his name to Mohammed Rasheed about a year ago at a registry office. He was brain-washed into becoming a Muslim by local men."
Mr Melville said Mr Reilly's injuries were not life-threatening.
"Investigation into Reilly shows he has a history of mental illness and had adopted the Islamic faith," Mr Melville said. "We believe that despite his weak and vulnerable state he had been preyed upon and radicalised and taken advantage of."
Devon and Cornwall Chief Constable Stephen Otter said: "There were two devices, one on the cafe and one nearby. We do not know … how bad it could have been if they had gone off but it would have been quite serious."
The Times said police were concerned that it may be a new situation in Britain of extremists taking advantage of mentally or physically disabled people.
A suicide bomber in a wheel-chair killed an Iraqi general in central Iraq this year. In a separate incident, two women identified as having received psychiatric treatment blew themselves up in Baghdad, killing nearly 100 people. #
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
7:4 (or 7:3),
8:12,
9:73,
8:67 (or 8:68),
22:19 (or 22:20):- … But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads.
< www. submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >
22:19 (or 22:20),
33:60,
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7),
47:13 (or 47:14),
47:35 (or 47:37),
48:16, and
71:26-27 (or 71:27-28).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Bukhari's, 6, 60:250:-
[***] They found boys playing and Al-Khadir got hold of a handsome infidel
boy laid him down and then slew him with a knife. [***]
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/060. sbt.html# 006.060.250 >
Sahih Muslim's 19:4450:-
[… ] I drew my sword and attacked these four while they were asleep.
[… ]
Sunan Abu-Dawud's, Book 19, Number 2996: -
… Muhayyisah jumped over Shubaybah, … He had close relations with them. He then killed him. …
Book 38, Number 4356: - … He had their hands and feet cut off, and their eyes put out. …
TRADITION ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#preyed_upon_islam
[May 24, 08]
Impact of Shari'a.
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
by Muhammad Abd Al-Muttalib Al-Houni, p 38, (orig. Feb 26, 2008), June 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 38 JUNE 2008
Reaction to Archbishop Williams’ Address
IMPACT OF SHARI‘A
T HERE has already been a great clamor {and argument} between supporters and opponents of these statements, so I thought that I, as a Muslim citizen of Europe, would take up this thorny subject and attempt to understand this statement and its implications. {I do this} in order to shed light on what would happen in Europe if its countries were to adopt the kinds of measures that the English archbishop is demanding.
I do not think that this demand that some laws from Islamic
shari‘a be adopted into European law is {meant} to include
shari‘a criminal law - that is, punishments such as
killing the apostate (a Muslim who converts to another religion), amputating a
thief's hand,
cutting off a brigand's opposing
hand and foot … stoning
the adulterer to death, publicly flogging
wine drinkers, killing
homosexuals by throwing them from a high place, or allowing a
relative of a {murder} victim to deal with the murderer, instead of the state.
I imagine that the archbishop is referring {only} to Islamic
shari‘a laws regarding personal status. So let us imagine these laws being implemented in European courts.
First of all, on the procedural side, there would need to be Islamic courts in European countries to adjudicate in all disputes involving European Muslim citizens - or else a large number of European judges would have to be sent to the Taliban to learn
shari‘a thoroughly enough to implement its laws.
Also, European countries seeking to implement
shari‘a would need to submit their reservations regarding any international conventions they may have signed. This is because they will have to:
- Permit polygamy for European Muslim citizens, and not punish them for it - {even though} this is considered criminal under European law;
- Permit European Muslim citizens to beat their wives to discipline them, as the Koran urges;
- Allow men to unilaterally decide to divorce without requiring any court proceedings, as this is a right guaranteed {to men} by shari‘a;
- Give daughters {only} half the inheritance rights that sons have, while widows receive only an eighth of the inheritance;
- {Not} consider women's testimony the equal of men's in shari‘a courts;
- Deprive a divorced woman of custody of her children if she remarries;
- Allow European Muslim citizens to marry in traditional marriages without the need to officially register these marriages;
- Eliminate adoption, since it is contrary to shari‘a;
- Force a woman whose Muslim husband converts to another religion to divorce him, because he is an apostate;
- Prevent European Muslim women from marrying non-Muslims… "
- Muhammad ‘Abd Al-Muttalib Al-Houni in the Arab liberal e-journal Elaph, February 26, 2008.
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[June 2008]
Bin Laden's 'right hand man' on bail.
Bin Laden’s ‘right hand man’ on bail
The West Australian,
www.thewest. com.au ,
http://www. thewest.com. au/aapstory. aspx?Story Name=491259 ,
AFP, 8:37 WST, Wednesday, June 18, 2008
LONDON –
A radical Muslim cleric once described as "Osama bin Laden's right-hand man in Europe" will soon be released, but on strict conditions including a ban on attending mosques, officials have said.
The British Home Office announced in May that Abu Qatada, who first arrived in Britain in the early 1990s but disappeared before new anti-terror laws came in after September 11, 2001, would be freed on bail.
On Tuesday, the Special Immigration Advisory Commission (SIAC) published the detailed bail and curfew conditions, including wearing an electronic tag and being subject to a 22-hour-a-day curfew at an undisclosed location.
"He will be released today or tomorrow," said a SIAC press officer, releasing the eight-page bail conditions.
The document notably bans Qatada from attending "any mosques", as well as from leading prayers, giving lectures, or "providing religious instruction" to anyone except his wife and children.
Qatada, who has been convicted of terrorist offences in Jordan, is also banned from associating with a list of named people, including Osama bin Laden, as well as the Al-Qaeda leader's deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Qatada - who was labelled bin Laden's "right hand man" by a leading Spanish anti-terror judge - is also banned from publishing any document or making any statement without the British Home Secretary's approval.
Born Omar Mahmud Mohammed Otman in Bethlehem, Qatada arrived in Britain in 1993 on a forged United Arab Emirates passport and claimed asylum, gaining refugee status in 1994.
He disappeared before new anti-terror laws came in after the September 11 attacks in 2001, but was arrested in October 2002 and spent three years in the high-security Belmarsh prison in south-east London.
At the end of the prison term he was released, although made subject to a control order, but returned to jail in August 2005 as part of a crackdown against Islamist extremism after London bombings.
Qatada appealed against his planned deportation to Jordan - where he has been sentenced in his absence to life imprisonment for terrorist offences - at the SIAC court in May last year.
The British Home Office is appealing against a decision to block the cleric's deportation, based on the risk of mistreatment to him in Jordan. -- AFP
Have Your Say
[FOLLOW UP: Read a different version in the print version of the following day's paper, "Bin Laden's man in Europe walks free from UK jail," page 10, Thursday, June 19, 2008. In this it is stated he will receive about $2080 a month in state benefits. This "made a mockery of the Government's promise to crack down on terror suspects." Picture.
ENDS.]
[SOLUTION: Send him to the International Court of Justice, to face the charges that the country of Jordan wishes to try him on. For this to be actually thought of in British upper class circles, they would have to take a fortnight off partying and carousing before their brains cleared.
ENDS.]
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[Jun 18, 08]
Muslims tuning in.
- Rev. Zakario Botrous / Botros, Coptic Christian.
Muslims tuning in
The Record (R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
Letter from Mildura, Victoria, Australia; p 8, Wednesday, June 18, 2008
Muslims worldwide are tuning in to Father Zakaria Botrous on the Internet.
Father Botrous, a priest of the Coptic Christian Church, sits there dressed in black robes, a huge cross around his neck and within reach a Bible and a Koran. Referring to these, he encourages Muslims to convert to Christianity.
Being on the net allows Muslims to access this information about Christianity safely - even in countries like Saudi Arabia where converts can be in danger. Father's internet broadcasts are in Arabic with Italian, French and English transcripts accessible.
Arabic-speaking Muslims - up to 20 million of them - now have a chance to hear the Christian Gospel in understandable words. Father often challenges Muslim authorities to disprove his comments about Islam and the Koran. They never succeed.
He has been declared Islam's "public enemy number one " by Arabic newspaper "al-Insan al-Jadid". Yet he never tries to turn Westerners against Islam. He simply tries to draw Muslims towards the love of the God revealed by Jesus Christ.
Father's website is at http://www.fatherzakaria.net . #
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:82 (or 4:84):- Can they not consider the Koran? Were it from any other than Allah, they would surely find in it many
contradictions.
16:101 (or 16:103):- And when We change one sign (verse) for another, and Allah knowest best what he revealeth, they say 'Thou art only a fabricator.' … .
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
{Meditate on:} 8, 74: 257 .
TRADITION ENDS.]
[LOOK BACK: Fidelity magazine, May 2008.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#muslims_tuning_in
[June 18, 2008]
Muslim-Christian contact brings new set of problems.
Muslim-Christian contact brings new set of problems
The Record
(R.C. Perth W. Australia weekly),
by Paul Gray, p 7, June 25, 2008
[Picture] Analysis: British Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, a specialist in Christian-Muslim dialogue, will give a series of lectures at Murdoch University in July. PHOTO: CNS
Greater proximity means more problems - but also opportunities, key Church expert says
By Paul Gray
CLOSER contact between Christians and Muslims - and an exclusive and violent attitude on the part of some Muslims - are creating new challenges in Christian-Muslim relations, a senior Vatican diplomatic official has told The
Record.
Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, who was appointed by Pope Benedict as the Vatican's ambassador to Egypt and Delegate to the League of Arab States in 2006, will give lectures at Murdoch University next month.
He will be the inaugural Murdoch international theologian, an initiative to bring leading religious thinkers to Perth within the university's Theology Program.
In an email interview with The Record, the English Archbishop said that religious differences between Christians and Muslims remain the same today as they have always been. "While Christians and Muslims are united in their belief in one God, they are divided in their understanding of this God," he said.
"The biggest difference is that Christians believe in a God who
has become Incarnate, that is, has entered into the world in the person of Jesus Christ. Muslims reject the Incarnation as being incompatible with the exalted nature of God.
This changes the whole perspective of religion," Archbishop Fitzgerald said.
But apart from the religious differences, there are separate challenges in Christian-Muslim relations today. These are caused, first, by the greater proximity between the two religions almost everywhere in the world. "Christians and Muslims are necessarily coming into contact. They have to find ways of living in harmony, and also of working together on behalf of the rest of humankind."
A further problem has emerged with the growth of an exclusive attitude on the part of some Muslims. In some cases this exclusive attitude is "turning to violence".
The Archbishop says through modern communications, radical extremist Muslim groups are in contact with one another. This makes the tendency more dangerous, both for Christians and Muslims, and makes the problem harder to combat.
In response to questions from The Record, Archbishop Fitzgerald gave his views on a number of important questions touching on the relationship between Christians and Muslims today.
Explaining the Church's teaching on the reasons for religious divisions in the world, he cited a Second Vatican Council document, Nostra Aetate, which says that all humankind is engaged in a common search for answers to fundamental questions of existence.
These questions include 'What is the meaning and purpose of life?', 'What is upright and what is sinful behaviour?', 'What is the cause and purpose of suffering?' and 'What happens at death?'
The Church teaches that all humans are united in their searching of such questions, and that this search is ultimately a search for God. While people are divided in their answers to these existential questions, "it is in this reality that divine revelation takes place, culminating in Jesus Christ," Archbishop Fitzgerald said. Inherent human weakness and also sinfulness help to perpetuate the religious divisions, but "it is important to recognise the positive aspects of the different religions and not only concentrate on the divisions," the Archbishop said.
Asked if it is a duty of all Christians to engage in inter-faith dialogue, Archbishop Fitzgerald cited Pope John Paul Us encyclical letter Redemptoris Missio.
The late Pope said all members of the faithful and all Christian communities are called to practise dialogue, although not always to the same degree and in the same way.
Archbishop Fitzgerald said inter-religious dialogue and ecumenism are "really only specific ways of loving one's neighbour, trying to build up a society where there is peace, harmony and co-operation."
Questioned about the Vatican's number one priority in relation to the Arab and Muslim world at the moment, Archbishop Fitzgerald said the Holy See's concern is always for the wellbeing of Christian communities.
"So it could be said that its priority is to see that religious liberty is truly respected," he said.
A just solution to conflict between Israel and Palestine must be considered a priority also, he said.
Archbishop Fitzgerald will deliver the I. J. Kiernan Memorial Lectures on July 8, 9, and 10 on
Christian-Muslim relations in a changing world,
Religious pluralism: a theological consideration,
and Witnessing to Christ, ecumenism and
religious dialogue.
For further information, contact Murdoch #
[RECAPITULATION: "The biggest difference is that Christians believe in a God who has become Incarnate, that is, has entered into the world in the person of Jesus Christ. Muslims reject the Incarnation as being incompatible with the exalted nature of God. This changes the whole perspective lof religion," Archbishop Fitzgerald said. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: And read on! COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
9:31:-
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords beside Allah. And (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
9:34:-
O ye who believe! There are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in falsehood devour the wealth of men and hinder (them) from the Way of Allah. And there are those who hoard gold and silver and spend it not in the Way of Allah: announce unto them a most grievous chastisement-
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/009. qmt.html# 009.034 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 749:-
…
Allah's Apostle said, "Say Amen' when the Imam says "Ghair-il-maghdubi 'alaihim wala-ddal-lin; not the path of those who earn Your Anger (such as Jews) nor of those who go astray (such as Christians); all the past sins of the person whose saying (of Amin) coincides with that of the angels, will be forgiven.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/012. sbt.html# 001.012.749 >
Sahih Muslim's, Book 037, Number 6670:-
Ibn Shihab reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made an expedition to Tabuk and he (the Holy Prophet) had in his mind (the idea of threatening the) Christians of Arabia in Syria and those of Rome. [***]
TRADITION ENDS.]
[ANOTHER RECAP.: "While Christians and Muslims are united in their belief in one God, they are divided in their understanding of this God," he said. ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: In spite of the reversal of teachings by some major Churches, there is no scriptural proof that it is the SAME god. Allah in the literature exhibits the sternness and ferocity of early aspects of the Judaic-Israelite god, but hardly any of the qualities of the god that Jesus Christ honoured.
A few who delve into the ancient texts are struck by other strange facts.
Mohammed's father had a name which seems to have a part of the word "Allah" (i.e., god), modified, in it.
In the Hebrew scriptures, as we have them now, it seems that the god of Abraham was called "El" (god, or divine), "Elohim," or "El Shaddai," and other gods were also being revered by his family and descendants. Later in the Hebrew scriptures a hero is told that the god is called "I am who am," i.e., "I am he who exists," which some scholars say is "Yahweh," and since the 1600s some Christians put it in their bibles as "Jehovah."
The Greek Christian scriptures, as we have them now, report that Jesus prayed to someone he called the Father, and the word "Abba" is given in Aramaic for that word. How come that Mohammed never once in the Koran/Quran, as we have it now, used any of these previous names for the god that he said is the same as that of the Jews and Christians, but everyone must worship? ENDS.]
[CONTACT: www. murdoch. edu.au
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#muslim_christian_contact
[June 25, 2008]
Why Islam is so hostile.
Why Islam is so hostile
The West Australian,
Various Letters to The Editor, p 22, Thursday, June 26, 2008
Why Islam is so hostile
The Anglican News recently predicted that Britain would be Islamic within 30 years. While the disastrous ravages and social dysfunction that wholesale Islamic immigration has brought on European civilisation is there for all to see, our own politicians seem to have learnt nothing from it. Perhaps they think it just can't happen here.
I refer to your report (Christians mark time with Islam on march, 19/6) which states that Perth's Muslim population has more than doubled in 10 years and that this is almost entirely due to migration. I find this deeply disturbing.
There was a time when we in the West well understood that any belief system or movement that did not permit its members to leave, did not allow any criticism or scrutiny and refused to coexist with other competing systems was inherently bad and to be avoided.
That is true of fascism, communism and some other movements that we have seen. When such a belief system is of a religious type we call it a cult.
Comparing that with Islam, we find that anyone who leaves Islam can be punished with death; that Islam is so sensitive to the slightest criticism that there are riots and killings over such trivial things as cartoons or a teddy bear; and that Islam calls for the complete eradication of every other religion ("Fight them (infidels) until idolatry is no more and all religion is for Allah", Koran
2.193/
8.39).
There are other characteristics that distinguish a cult from a religion. First there is the unique position of the cult leader who may never be criticised, who alone is in touch with the Almighty and to whom nothing is forbidden, especially nothing sexual.
Meanwhile the followers are bound to all sorts of rules, regulations and taboos. Islam, too, regulates even the smallest minutiae of political and social life for the Muslim. Mohammed was permitted the special privilege to have as many wives as he pleased.
Then there is the "us" versus "them" mentality of a cult where -outsiders, even family members, are to be shunned. Islam forbids Muslims to make friends with any but their own people (
3.118), describing unbelievers as "filthy" (
9.28), "the vilest of all creatures" (
98.6) and "the enemy" (
8.59/60/1).
Once we grasp the cultic nature of Islam everything else falls into place. It explains why Islam is so hostile to our democratic freedoms and why Muslims will never assimilate into the mainstream.
Further, it should warn our politicians, whose duty it is to protect our rights as individuals, as a nation and as a civilisation, and who hitherto have seemed to be in deep denial, that they should immediately halt any further Muslim immigration to Australia. But will they?
No polygamy
First the Muslims want us to adopt Sharia law and now polygamous relationships. We are not a Muslim country, so let them all move somewhere else before they bring our beautiful country down to their level. Why did they come here in the first place?
Aussie culture
Geoff Barker (At a price, Letters, 24/6) is so right to question Kevin Rudd's decision to allow 14,000 refugees from the Middle East, Africa and Asia to be settled in Australia.
It is difficult to understand why our politicians continue to drive this diverse multicultural agenda when you see the results similar policies have had in the UK and some other EU countries such as France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands and Denmark. The social structure of these countries is breaking down so much that the word "multicultural" has such a bad odour that it has been sidelined in favour of the new "in-word" integration.
Australia has been very successful over the past 200 years in building what we now call the "Aussie culture" based mainly on the British way of life, but we have had significant numbers of migrants from other cultures. I think particularly of the Italians and Greeks who have also made a wonderful contribution to our society.
The secret to our success is that the vast majority of migrants who helped to build our Aussie culture have integrated and that should be the benchmark by which we should continue.
I am writing to Mr Rudd to oppose his refugee policy on the grounds that it is not supported by the majority of Australians.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#why_islam_is_so
[COMMENT: The reason most Muslim immigrants are coming to Australia is because of very difficult conditions and internecine strife in their previous country. The exception is Palestinians -- either driven out by the Israelis, or persecuted by Muslims or others. Unfortunately, the over-all culture and the Sunni-Shi'ite clashes will lead to a repeat of such violence on the Australian continent. There will be very little energy left for nation-building and community-building.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[CHECKED: The Koran quotations above are correct, according to reputable translations.
ENDS.]
[Jun 26, 08]
Don't reject all Muslims.
Don’t reject all Muslims
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor from Elna Abdul, Rockingham; p 22, Saturday, June 28, 2008
In reply to Glenys Simons (Why Islam is so hostile, 26/6), some people fail to understand that Islam has different sects in it, similar to the Christian churches with Catholics, Protestants, Anglicans and Presbyterians. As a Muslim I have seen why some people tend to generalise and think of us as one.
How would you feel if I were to say that all bishops/pastors/ministers who served the church were all paedophiles? Others should not judge us by the actions of certain Muslims because we are all different, just like your religions.
I agree that some sects of Muslims hold on to their culture too strongly and put this before Islam and do not allow women to work, vote or even have a proper education. People need to understand that there are Muslims all around the world who adopt different cultures and have different upbringings. I do not encounter prejudice as a Muslim because I have a good education and I am free to make my own decisions, even to marry whomever I wish.
It is, however, sad that people tend to misunderstood what's being said in the Koran and Hadith, and this includes both Muslims and non-Muslims.
The Holy Koran says that all Muslims should live in harmony with other religions if no one is being harmed. I acknowledge that some Muslims tend to translate the Koran without getting the opinions of the imams and take matters into their own hands and do horrendous things to others.
Polygamy is something not to be taken lightly. Again, it is disappointing to say that even some Muslim men are misguided by this "right". Many men fail to understand that being in a polygamous marriage means that they must be fair to their wives, no excuses whatsoever, and this means that if they bought two fish for each of them, both have to be exactly the same weight or Allah will condemn them for their actions.
With this right comes great responsibility. However, polygamy is not that common for us Muslims. It is more "culturally" popular in some parts of the Islamic world. To be honest, since my great grandfather's generation, only one person in the family has practised polygamy – and with a lot of difficulty too. It's not all smiles. #
[RECAPITULATION: The Holy Koran says that all Muslims should live in harmony with other religions if no one is being harmed. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Spot the exception! "If no one is being harmed" -- but surely any breach of Allah's law harms humans (so Muslims would think), so Muslims have a duty to enforce their idea of Allah's laws on anybody they can? And in the formerly friendly Malaysia to our near north, as in other countries, the march of enforcement of Mohammedan rules is getting to the stage of tearing down a place of worship, etc. ENDS.]
[2nd RECAP.: I acknowledge that some Muslims tend to translate the Koran without getting the opinions of the imams and take matters into their own hands and do horrendous things to others. ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Horrendous things are ordered in various scriptures, including the Koran, and many imams tell the faithful to attack the infidels and people of other Muslim sects, as UK's Channel 4 "Undercover Mosque" revealed on January 15, 2007. Other pages of the June 28 paper have the now-familiar newsitems of bloodshed, not tolerance. But first get a taste of the scripture and the tradition.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[THE KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
3:118 (or 3:114):- O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. …
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/003. qmt.html #003.118 >
{And click:} 5:51 (or 5:56);
5:57 (or 5:62);
5:80 (or 5:83);
6:106;
9:80 (or 9:81);
and
58:22 < www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/058. qmt.html #058.022 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
{Click:} Sunan Abu-Dawud's, Book 14, Number 2678.
{Read:} Sunan Abu-Dawud's, Book 19, Number 2996: -
Narrated Muhayyisah:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: If you gain a victory over the men of Jews, kill them. So Muhayyisah jumped over Shubaybah, a man of the Jewish merchants. … He then killed him. [… ]
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[p 22, June 28, 2008]
Taliban kill 'spies' as 5000 watch.
Taliban kill ‘spies’ as 5000 watch
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 35, Wednesday, June 28, 2008
ISLAMABAD – Pakistani Taliban militants carried out a public execution yesterday of two Afghans they accused of spying for US forces.
A crowd of about 5000 people watched as militants stabbed and decapitated one man and shot the other dead near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
Taliban gunmen then fired their weapons in the air in jubilation as the crowd chanted "God is great".
Local official Fazal Rabbi said that shooting prompted a short gunfight in which two people were killed and six others wounded.
A witness said: "It was complete chaos. We managed to survive."
The execution took place in an open space 10km west of Khar, the main town in the troubled northwest tribal district of Bajaur, a region the US says Pakistani Taliban use to stage attacks on coalition forces in Afghanistan.
A local security official said: "There was a public execution by militants of two people who were kidnapped two days ago by Taliban on spying charges."
The militants used megaphones to claim that the two men were spies who had passed information to coalition forces in Afghanistan that
led to a US missile strike in Bajaur in May which killed 14 people.
The missile strike destroyed the houses of two local militant leaders.
A reporter at the scene said: "The men's faces were covered and their hands were tied. One was slaughtered with a knife amid shouts of Allahu Akbar, the other was shot with a burst of fire from a Kalashnikov."
Violence has risen in Pakistan's north-west in recent days despite continuing peace talks between militants and the Government. There were reports this week that the main north-western city of Peshawar was under threat.
The execution came a day after US Defence Secretary Robert Gates said a failure by Pakistan to put pressure on Taliban forces in the border regions was a "concern".
Pakistan's ruling coalition, which won power this year and is seeking to oust President Pervez Musharraf, took most of the seats contested in by-elections on Thursday, strengthening its position in Parliament.
The Pakistan Muslim League of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif won three out of five National Assembly seats that were contested, while its senior partner, the Pakistan Peoples Party, took two. #
[COMMENT: The primitive nature of the culture can be gauged by the fact that 5000 people gathered to watch the murders, dressed up as executions of spies. The celebratory gunfire and the gunfight after the murders are also instructive.
This culture is similar to Europe's before the last two centuries. Neither leaders nor parliaments nor courts, nor outside forces will change it. Importing such a culture to other lands has spread the chaos and killings.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
9:73:- O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura9.html #73 >
33:60:- If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbours in it but for a little while.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Bukhari's, 6, 60:250:-
[***] Said said 'They found boys playing and Al-Khadir got hold of a handsome infidel boy laid him down and then slew him with a knife. [***]
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/060. sbt.html# 006.060.250 >
Sahih Muslim's 19:4450:-
[… ] When we and the people of Mecca had concluded a peace treaty
… four of the polytheists from the Meccans came to me … I drew my sword and attacked these four while they were asleep. [… ]
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[p 35, June 28, 2008]
Judge blasts man over 'honour' death of brother-in-law.
[Arranged marriage with a nephew was not what Yasmin wanted.]
Judge blasts man over ‘honour’ death of brother-in-law
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 49, Saturday, June 28, 2008
LONDON – A British judge has condemned the cruelty of a man who hunted down and executed his sister's husband in a so-called "honour" killing.
Arza Khan, 28, could not tolerate the fact that his sister, Yasmin, 25, had refused to submit to an arranged marriage set up years ago by her family.
He hired three accomplices to flush out her Pakistani-born husband, Mian Shahid Mehmood, 29, from his hiding place in Halifax, West Yorkshire.
They then forced him to kneel down at a remote spot before he was shot twice in the back. He was dead by the time paramedics reached the scene.
A jury at Leeds Crown Court, northern England, was told that evidence in the case suggested the shooting was carried out by John Reeves, 55, a criminal from Sheffield.
Naveed Mahmood, 23, and Sam Lee, 30, also from Sheffield, were respectively his "fixer" and "muscle man" in case Mr Mehmood put up a struggle.
All four of the conspirators were convicted of murder, with Khan, Reeves and Mahmood being told they would serve at least 32 years behind bars before being considered for parole. Lee would serve a life term of at least 25 years.
Judge James Stewart described the murder as "a cold-blooded execution" and told the killers: "Life to you seems so cheap."
He said: "This was a planned execution of an innocent victim for no other reason other than he had married the person he loved."
Turning to Khan, Judge Stewart said: "Your arrogance in believing you knew what was best for your own younger sister is mind-boggling.
"There is no honour in what you did, quite the reverse. You have only brought dishonour and disgrace upon your family, which has been rent asunder by your cruelty and arrogance."
Prosecutor Tom Bayliss had told the jury that Yasmin Khan was one of six children born to Pakistani parents living in Halifax.
She went to a local school until the age of nine when she was taken by her mother to Pakistan, where they moved in with Ms Khan's uncle, Rehmat Khan, and her brother, Arza.
At the age of 15 she was allowed to return to Britain, with the caveat that she would return later to Pakistan to marry one of her nephews.
In 2002, she was taken back to Pakistan and, while there, met and fell in love with Mr Mehmood. She flew back to Britain and lived for a time away from her family in Edinburgh and Cardiff.
Ms Khan and her chosen lover were secretly married in Pakistan in October 2004.
However, she became homesick and flew back to Britain. Mr Mehmood followed and lived at a secret address in Halifax. It was from this house that he was taken away and murdered. #
htm" target="show">KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:34 (or 4:38):- Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which Allah hath gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
1, 6:301:
[… ] The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
< www.usc.edu/dept/ MSA/fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/006.sbt. html#001.006.301 >
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: And in Perth, W.A., a supposedly Christian family group has as its number one member a man, whom they clam "shares" the group's family attitudes! Mere opposition to some modern trends does NOT cover over the evil!
ENDS.]
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[p 49, June 28, 2008]
Three Islam school chiefs face $3m fraud counts.
Three Islam school chiefs face $3m fraud counts
The West Australian,
www.thewest. com.au ,
www.thewest. com.au/ default. aspx? MenuID= 77&Content ID=81507 ,
by DALE MILLER and JAYNE RICKARD, Posted 14:15 WST, June 27, 2008, Published
p 7, Saturday, June 28, 2008
PERTH –
Three senior staff from a trio of Islamic colleges in Perth have been charged with fraud offences after they allegedly inflated student numbers to claim nearly $3.2 million in subsidised Government funding.
The director and two principals of the Australian Islamic Colleges in Thornlie, Kewdale and Dianella have been charged after allegedly obtaining the excess funds from both the State and Federal Governments as part of subsidised student funding applications from 2005 and 2006.
Inspector Arno Albrecht said the "ghosted" student figures had numbered in the hundreds and that funds were used to off-set school fees and pay staff salaries.
He said the three schools may be closed down but it was up to the relevant Government agencies to make the decision.
The three men face up to 10 years in jail under Federal laws if found guilty of the charges.seized from search warrants executed by state police with the assistance of the Federal Department of Education and Workplace Relations Investigations Unit at the colleges on January 30, 2007 and subsequent interviews with witnesses.
A team of six full time investigators have been involved in the investigation, with 200 statements being taken, and more than 200 archive boxes, 12 filing cabinets and 15 computers being examined.
A 69-year-old man from Attadale has been charged with ten counts of gaining benefit by fraud for another person and five counts of obtaining a financial advantage by deception.
A 50-year-old man from Nedlands has been charged with two counts of gaining benefit by fraud for another person and one count of obtaining a financial advantage by deception.
A 53 year old man from Alfred Cove has been charged with six counts of gaining benefit by fraud for another person and three counts of obtaining a financial advantage by deception.
All three men will appear in the Perth Magistrate's Court on July 2. #
[ALSO READ: P 35, ISLAMABAD: Taliban kill 'spies' as 5000 watch. In open space 10km west of Khar, Pakistan, Taliban militants executed (without lawful trial) two men, amid shouts of Allahu Akhbar.
P 49, LONDON: Judge blasts man over 'honour' death of brother-in-law. Mian Shahid Mehmood, 29, hiding in Halifax, was murdered in England.
ENDS.]
[LOOK BACK: Jan 31, 2007. ENDS.]
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[June 28, 2008]
Polygamy repugnant.
Polygamy repugnant
The West Australian,
Letters to The Editor, p 22, Monday, June 30, 2008
There have been several letters published expressing understandable dismay at the calls by Keysar Trad and Sheikh Khalil Chami, of the Islamic Welfare Centre in Lakemba, to legalise polygamous marriage.
Keysar Trad, who was the translator for the former mufti of Australia and head of the Islamic Friendship Society, said that he himself had proposed to a second wife.
At that time Mr Trad had nine children and no steady job and relied on income support from government, yet he still sought another wife to join the throng. If Australia goes down the polygamy path we would fall in line with Britain, which this year agreed to recognise polygamous relations, allowing second wives to claim income support of about $80 a week.
Therefore, Australians would be funding a type of marriage arrangement that most find repugnant and alien to our way of life.
Dennis Ford (Letters, 26/6) asks why Muslims come to Australia in the first place when it is not a Muslim country. I would suggest they do so because over 30 years ago our political leaders decided, without any consultation with the Australian people, to change our immigration policy and make it non-discriminatory.
They also introduced the policy of multiculturalism, again without consultation. Now, whenever people protest, they are immediately demonised and vilified by the Left, "racist" being the label de jour, as we saw when the residents of Camden in rural NSW staged a protest about plans to build an Islamic school in their town, one of their reasons being "they didn't want Camden to turn into a Lakemba".
Alan Clowes (Letters, 26/6) finds it difficult to understand why our politicians "continue to drive this diverse multicultural agenda when you see the results similar policies have had in the UK and some other EU countries".
He is not alone, far from it, but immigration policy is something that is never raised by any of the mainstream political parties in the lead up to Federal elections. They are all singing from the same songbook.
There is also immigration by stealth, via student visas and the "special work visas". No person should be brought in from overseas to fill unskilled work vacancies until everyone is off the dole.
So expect to hear more demands for the legalisation of polygamous marriage, Sharia law and the like. Expect to see more chipping away at the Australian way of rife until it disappears for ever. Our Anzacs must wonder why on earth they risked their lives to save it.
It's parasitic
An Islamic cleric has proposed that Muslims living here should be allowed to practise polygamy and have more than one wife.
Sheikh Khalil Chami informs us that there are many polygamous marriages already in Australia among Muslims. He also tells us that he is asked to perform about three polygamous marriages each week "so what's wrong with it"?
What the sheikh doesn't tell us (and what all Australian taxpayers should be asking) is just how many Muslims now living in these illegal relationships actually go to work to keep these extra wives and children.
The Koran says "a man may have up to four wives if he can deal with them all justly", meaning if he can afford their upkeep. In most Arabic countries polygamy is barely one per cent because ordinary people can hardly afford to keep one wife.
It's a safe bet that about 99 per cent of those Muslims now practising polygamy, or asking to be allowed to practise it, would never be able to afford to have more than one wife in the country they came from. However, here
– with the husband on a welfare disability pension and therefore the wives and children also on welfare – it's so easy, with hard-working Australians paying all the bills, as well as providing the extra housing.
Far from giving this latest demand the slightest heed to encourage this parasitic way of life the government welfare agencies should carry out an urgent review and reassessment of all those now living the fantasy life of a sultan.
Let us find out just how many of them have a genuine claim to be kept in their parasitic lifestyles before we allow the Islamic abuses of women to creep into our way of life.
Sanity, not sex
Roma Lester's letter (A way of life, 27/6) regarding some Muslims' predilection for several wives was interesting to say the least.
Although some aspects of Islamic law would be met with enthusiastic approval by a heck of a lot of frustrated victims of crime in this country, it makes no sense to embrace additional and separate systems – for obvious reasons.
There exists many and varied paths to madness, but none so certain as the introduction of additional wives to the conjugal bedroom or household.
Just imagine, for instance, greeting 10 or more pairs of stockings hanging in the bathroom when you're trying to have a shave, or worse, having to add several extra bathrooms to the normal two-bathroom home.
How about the arguments over the TV programs when you want to watch a footy replay and then find yourself embroiled in a "blue" with not one wife, but four or five of them.
One good woman is more than enough to satisfy the needs of modern man. After all, sanity is just as important as sex.
IN SHORT
Who wants two or three wives? One is enough for me, thank you very much. Just think, you'd have to ask three times if it is OK to play golf. And what would you do with three times the amount of shoes? No thanks, one is plenty.
Max Tangermann, Greenwood.
YOUR SMS
Polygamy for Australia could be a real benefit. All of our gay clergy could marry each other in one great and glorious celebration, then go away and not bother us any more.
Peter Somers, Mt Hawthorn.
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[COMMENT: Excellent letters. One writes that the Koran says "a man may have up to four wives if he can deal with them all justly… " What could be added is, that the Koran and Hadith say that the surviving infidels must be taxed and the money given to the poor -- who could be poorer than the man with nine children who wants a second "wife to join the throng"? The Koran enjoins Muslims to be haughty to the infidels, and not to obey them, and to fight until all religion is Allah's.
So it all looks just and fair, and Allah's will, if seen through the Islamic kaleidoscope!
How many wives? The theoretical limit is four wives plus slaves, and the man is allowed to scourge any wife who he thinks might be refractory. So her "right" to veto another wife does not really exist.
There is a safety valve! The Shi'ites in some places have a system of temporary marriages, for a fee, with bed provided, followed by an
on-the-spot divorce. Any similarity to prostitution is just your depraved infidel mind! And don't blame Islam or its founder -- the Sunnis do not have this system.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah): Click: 5:54 (or 5:59),
9:5,
9:29, and
33:1
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/033. qmt.html #033.001 >.
ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's, Vol. 3, Bk. 43, No. 656:-
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/043. sbt.html# 003.043.656 >
ENDS.]
[June 30, 2008]
• Da'wa - Islamic mission - Part 2: Da'wa in the West.[Dawa Part 2]
Barnabas Aid magazine,
www. barnabas fund.org , Pull-out Supplement, July-August 2008
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Part 2: Da'wa in the West
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A Scottish undergraduate starting at Edinburgh University found himself sharing a flat with students of various nationalities. The flatmates talked about the reasons why they had come to the UK. Iqbal, studying medicine, said: "I have come to the UK to see it become a Muslim state." He explained the overall strategy: "If we get London and New York, we will have the Western world." Iqbal is now a doctor in the UK and very active in his local mosque.
Establishing Islam in the West
Da'wa efforts in the West took off in the 1970s with the resurgence of Islam and the rapid rise of Islamism (extremist or political Islam) backed by oil wealth.
Khurram Murad (1932-1996), deputy vice-president of Jama'at-i Islami Pakistan 1987-1996 and former director of the Islamic Foundation, Leicester, UK, explained that the goal of da'wa activists is to see the West converted to Islam and integrated into the global, Muslim community, the umma:
There is the goal of bringing the same West to Islam, which would necessary mean that it would become part of the Muslim Ummah. 1
For many Muslim leaders, the recent mass Muslim migration to Western countries can have only one rationale: participation in da'wa to bring non-Muslims to Islam and establish Islam in the West. It is a God-appointed move indicating the revival of Islam and of its power.
As for Muslims, .. . their presence in the West can have only one'justification: to communicate the message of Islam to their fellow human beings here, both by words and example. Even though they might have come for reasons other than Islamic, to get money or education or both, this duty is foremost. 2
Replicating Christian missionary methods
Muslims in the modern era have successfully copied most Christian mission strategies and methods and are using them for the expansion of Islam in the non-Muslim world.
Funded by the Saudis and other oil-rich states and individuals, a vast project to resource da'wa by publications, translations and radio and TV programmes has been initiated. Intellectual persuasion is used with
the assistance of attractively produced tapes, videos, DVDs and the whole gamut of modern technology including a multitude of websites. Muslims are encouraged to give up their holidays in order to go on da'wa missions, and to use personal visitation and tourism to promote Islam.
Many da'wa organisations have been set up in the West. It is interesting to note that in the US the majority of such organisations were started by Muslim professionals such as doctors, engineers, university lecturers etc. Many da'wa organisations are now involved in door-to-door visitation, friendship da'wa, handing out leaflets, and setting up booths with Islamic material at public events. Islamic bookshops offer a wide range of materials for those interested in Islam. Special study groups are offered to potential converts and regular lessons are arranged for new converts to ground them in Islamic knowledge.
Some Muslims are involved in providing medical care, social welfare and educational facilities - an innovation as far as traditional da'wa methods are concerned. Muslim prison ministry in the West has been a fruitful field, with many inmates becoming Muslims. Some Muslim groups offer volunteers to help the elderly in their community regardless of cultural background or religious affiliation.
Ahmad Deedat, an Indian Muslim scholar (1918-2005) who grew up in South Africa, founded the Islamic Propagation Centre in Durban in 1957 which printed a variety of da'wa booklets attacking Christian beliefs (examples are Crucifixion or Cruci-fiction? and Resurrection or Resuscitation). He was very skilled in public Muslim-Christian debate, sparring with renowned Christian leaders in South Africa, the US and Britain. As usual in such emotive events, each side later claimed the victory. Videos of his lectures and debates as well as his books have been widely distributed in Muslim communities around the world. In 1986 he received the "King Faisal Award for Services to Islam".
Learning from Christian missiology, Muslims are now being encouraged to use contextualisation in their mission approach. Fadlullah Wilmot, Muslim Aid's Indonesia Country Director, encourages Muslim activists not to destroy local culture but respect it, support it and Islamise it. Islam is presented not as a new religion to be imposed on Western society, but as the final culmination and fulfilment of the basic truth God has revealed through all prophets since creation. Islam is described as the original, most natural religion. Non-Muslims are not asked to change their religion, but simply to "revert" to what they are told are their own original beliefs from which they have strayed. Muslims hold that every baby is born a Muslim and often use the word "revert" rather than "convert" when they speak of a non-Muslim embracing Islam.
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1 Khurram Murad, Da'wah Among Non-Muslims in the West, Leicester: The Islamic Foundation, 1986, p8.
2 Khurram Murad, "Editor's Preface", in Abu] Hasan Ali Nadwi, Muslims in the West: The Message and Mission, Leicester: The Islamic Foundation, 1983, p7.
© Barnabas Fund, 2008
Pages (ii), (iii), and (iv) yet to be scanned and inserted here
[To read the REST of this, it is recommended that readers try to obtain a copy at their public lending library, or by contacting the Barnabas Fund at one of the addresses given elsewhere on this webpage.]
[RECAPITULATION: Muslims hold that every baby is born a Muslim …
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[COMMENT: Amazing! And the infidels think Mohammedanism is merely an interesting point of view!
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[July-August 2008]
It's already here and it works, so why do we fear polygamy?
It’s already here and it works, so why do we fear polygamy?
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 13, Thursday, July 10, 2008
Calls by Australian Islamic leader Keysar Trad for the Federal Government to recognise polygamous marriages have sparked intense debate across the nation. Rahim Ghauri, a former president and current spokesman for the Islamic Council of WA, explains why there is no need to fear polygamy
Polygamy existed well before the advent of Islam. At the end of the 6th century and during coming years, many of the converts to Islam had more than one wife. Islam strictly advised for monogamy Prophet Mohammed had only one until he was about 50 years old.
During wars for or against Islam, the rising religion at the time, many males were killed, leaving behind a number of widows and orphans.
They were all over the Arab world and in surrounding countries and had no means to look after themselves or their children.
To stop social evils spreading within the community, Islam introduced polygamy at that time.
Polygamy and laws concerning polygamy differ greatly throughout the Islamic world and form a very complex and diverse background from nation to nation.
Whereas in some Muslim countries it may be fairly common, in most others it is often rare or non-existent.
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However, there are certain core fundamentals that are found in most Muslim countries where the practice occurs.
According to traditional Islamic law, a man may take up to four wives and each of those wives must have her own property, assets and dowry.
Usually, the wives have little to no contact with each other and lead separate, individual lives in their own houses, sometimes in different cities.
[Picture] Marriage counselling: Islamic Council of WA spokesman Rahim Ghauri believes polygamy can be positive. Picture;: Nic Ellis
Mohammed, for example, married many of his wives because they were war widows who were left with nothing. Thus polygamy is traditionally restricted to men who can manage things and in some countries it is illegal for a man to marry multiple wives if he is unable to afford to take care of them properly.
In the modern Islamic world, polygamy is mainly found in traditionalist Arab cultures, West and East Africa and the United Arab Emirates, whereas in secular Arab states such as Tunisia and non-Arab countries with Muslim populations such as Turkey, it is banned.
But polygamy is still practised in Malaysia, a non-Arab Muslim
country.
[Picture] Senegalese businessman Ibrahima Sene with his wives, left to right, Mame Seye, Khady and Aida. Picture: AP
However there are restrictions as to how it can be practised. In traditionalist cultures where polygamy is still legal and commonplace, Muslim polygamists do not separate themselves from the society at large, since there would be no need as each spouse leads a separate life from the others.
It is interesting to note that a number of issues raised overseas, for example Sharia law in England and polygamy in Indonesia, are made hot topics by the media in Australia. By doing so the media is neither serving the country nor letting others live in peace.
Neither the Islamic Council of WA nor any other established Muslim body has demanded any change to Australian common law.
Though under Australia's marriage laws polygamy is absolutely banned, there is nothing to stop polygamists from going to family courts to settle their disputes.
Marriage is defined as "the union of a man and a woman to the exclusion of all others" but family law says a polygamous union "entered into in a place outside Australia shall be deemed to be a marriage". Australian law already recognises polygamy. Section 6 of the Family Law Act recognises polygamous marriages from any country where they are legal. The Family Law Act only prohibits second or additional marriages within this country.
Ian Kennedy, head of the Law Council of Australia's family law section and a senior partner at Kennedy Wisewoulds, has said Muslims who "took another wife" in Australia without making those unions official were now covered because of changes to the Family Law Act. The landmark legislation introduced to Parliament last week has included a statement that a de facto relationship existed "even if one party is legally married to someone else or in another de facto relationship", Mr Kennedy said.
Philip Kilbride, an American anthropologist, in his book
Plural Marriage for our Time, proposes polygamy as a solution to some of the ills of American society. He argues that a plural marriage may serve as a potential alternative for divorce in many cases in order to obviate the damaging impact of divorce on many children.
He maintains that many divorces are caused by extramarital affairs in America. According to Kilbride, ending an extramarital affair in a polygamous marriage, rather than in a divorce, is better for the children.
"Children would be better served if family augmentation rather than only separation and dissolution were seen as options," he said.
Moreover, he suggests that other groups will also benefit from plural marriage, such as elderly women who face a chronic shortage of men.
There is a very big and influential organisation called Christian Group for Polygamy. If one is curious they may visit www.TrueBearer.Org .
If a new arrival already has more than one wife and is allowed to settle in Australia then his existing relationship is accepted (Section 6 Family Law Act) otherwise the Australian common law of marriage must prevail in all circumstances for all Australians, Muslim or otherwise.
If we look carefully around us, we see that the financial expectations placed on potential Muslim husbands by their potential in-laws coupled with difficult economic conditions are a deterrent for many youngsters to enter into marriage.
There is a big no no to polygamy from the general public, therefore it is up to the lawmakers as to what they intend to do in the future. #
[RECAPITULATION: Polygamy existed well before the advent of Islam.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: That is true. But, how come that the Mohammedan religion teaches that Adam, Noah, Abraham, etc. were all Muslims, if there was an "advent" of Islam?
COMMENT ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION: … in some countries it is illegal for a man to marry multiple wives if he is unable to afford to take care of them properly.
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: But NOT in countries with a kind social security system and a porous-border policy. Each extra wife qualifies as a "sole parent" in Western-style welfare states, entitled to low-rent welfare housing as well as parent benefit and child allowances! So, the polygamous husband fulfils three objectives in one go -- despoil the infidels, have frequent sexual relations, and rear children to spread Islam until no other religion is left.
ENDS.]
[3rd RECAPITULATION: … but family law says a polygamous union "entered into in a place outside Australia shall be deemed to be a marriage".
ENDS.]
[3rd COMMENT: Aussies don't remember voting on that in a referendum, I'll bet! Of course, with about 40 years of "politically correct" education curriculums, holding the fort on that culture attack is not a forgone conclusion. ENDS.]
[4th RECAPITULATION: "Children would be better served if family augmentation rather than only separation and dissolution were seen as options," he said. ENDS.]
[4th COMMENT: "Family augmentation"!! Don't you just love that phrase! Scourging/beating wives is advised, along with kindness, in the Koran, but if the whole misery of womanhood in Islam is all dressed up in euphemistic words such as the above, the lazy Westerners will fall for it -- in fact, some Western women are becoming Muslims. Their status in Islam is that they are deficient in intelligence and religion, so they become little better than slaves. ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:3:- … marry but two, or three, or four … or the slaves whom ye have acquired.
4:34 (or 4:38):- … But chide those for whose refractoriness ye have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them; but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: … < www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/004. qmt.html# 004.034 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
1, 6:301;
8, 74: 257.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[5th COMMENT: To change the subject from Islam, the changes to the Australian Family Law Act are also slowly coming to allow same-sex partners to share in the property of the richer partner. Great injustices to women and children will occur if a prosperous man forsakes that family and lives de-facto with another man, who then can go to court to obtain a share of property. Some will even pretend to be in love with another man, just as some men give up good professions, destroy property, or transfer it out of Australia, or any other method to spite the ex-wife.
To return to Islam, for evidence why Australians should oppose any taxpayer funds supporting polygamous families, read the newsitems about devoting children to holy war, suicide bombing, and the like. Assisted relocation is the patriotic answer to treat those who wish to find loopholes in the loopy Westerners' laws.
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#its_already_here
[p 13, July 10, 2008]
Mothers pledge their babes for Islamic war.
Mothers pledge their babes for Islamic war
The West Australian, www.thewest.com.au ,
p 49, July 10, 2008
[Picture] Devout: Women recite Koran verses during the memorial service. Picture: Associated Press
ISLAMABAD – Hundreds of women gathered at the radical Red Mosque in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, yesterday and vowed to raise their children for holy war.
Chanting "Jihad is our way", burqa-clad women, some with babies, listened to a fiery speech by Taybah Dua, daughter of the mosque's jailed cleric, on the eve of the anniversary of a Government commando raid on the Red Mosque complex in which more than 100 people died.
Ms Dua, daughter of Maulana Abdul Aziz, told the tightly guarded rally in the mosque compound: "Our mujahideen (fighters) laid down their lives for the enforcement of the Islamic system in Pakistan. We are left behind to carry forward their mission."
Several thousand men attended a similar rally on Sunday to mark the anniversary of the commando raid on July 10 which ended a week-long siege that began when gunmen from the mosque clashed with police.
Soon after the Sunday rally ended, a suicide bomber attacked police who had been guarding the gathering, killing 15 of them and three other people.
The attack highlighted the danger posed by militants in nuclear-armed Pakistan, where a new coalition Government has been preoccupied with what to do with unpopular President Pervez Musharraf, a staunch US ally who has been isolated since his allies were defeated in an election in February.
The blast in the centre of the capital also compounded gloom on Pakistan's financial markets.
The Red Mosque has for years been a bastion of militant support in Islamabad, but the mosque clerics and their followers have waged an increasingly defiant campaign to enforce Taliban rule.
They occupied a state library, kidnapped policemen and women they accused of prostitution and stormed music and video shops and beauty parlours, much to the dismay of the moderate majority in the capital.
They also accumulated weapons and battled security forces for days after the siege began, rejecting calls to surrender.
Mr Musharraf ordered commandos to storm the mosque and an adjoining women's madrassa to end the stand-off. The assault unleashed a wave of suicide bomb attacks across the country in which hundreds of people were killed, including former prime minister Benazir Bhutto. #
[RECAPITULATION: Hundreds of women gathered … yesterday and vowed to raise their children for holy war. [… ] Soon after the Sunday rally ended, a suicide bomber attacked police who had been guarding the gathering, killing 15 of them and three other people. […]
They occupied a state library, kidnapped policemen and women they accused of prostitution and stormed music and video shops and beauty parlours, much to the dismay of the moderate majority in the capital. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Raising children for holy war (jihad), murdering 18 people, and the rest of the anti-civilisation attacks, are hardly the hallmarks of a faith supposedly honouring the Lord of the Worlds.. Ignorance is such a hallmark, hence the raid on a library.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:74 (or 4:76);
9:123 (or 9:124).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 600;
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/060. sbt.html# 006.060.250 >.
TRADITION ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#mothers_pledge_their
[p 49, July 10, 2008]
Right curious case of Lib pretender.
[Liberal Party candidate Mr Lyn Vickery had un-PC views on immigration and illegal immigrants.]
InsideCover
Right curious case of Lib pretender
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
"Inside Cover" edited by Neale Prior, inside.cover@wanews.com.au , Tel 08 9482 3111, Fax 08 9482 3177,
p 2, Friday, July 11, 2008
There is a high level of intrigue surrounding the forthcoming fight for the new State seat of Morley, and we are not talking about the looming battle between former Labor Party member John D'Orazio and Premier Alan Carpenter's handpicked candidate Reece Whitby.
The intrigue relates to the man who until a few days ago was the Liberal Party's candidate for Morley and whose candidacy has been put on hold pending an examination of his close links to extreme right-wing internet site Global Action International.
A decision on the political future of writer Lyn Vickery is likely to be made by the Liberal Party's State council at a meeting tomorrow after some cyber-sleuths dug out all the details of the now-defunct Global Action website.
Vickery, a self-styled writer whose greatest claim to fame was probably
a show on the community television station Access 31, is believed to have operated the Global Action site earlier this decade with slogans such as Slash Immigration and Deport Illegals.
[Pictures] Lyn Vickery;
John D'Orazio; Barry Court; Reece Whitby
It also offered Global Action Australia bumper stickers with slogans such as Stuff Gay Rights, Educate Aussie Kids First, Down
with Dipsticks and Do Gooders, and Law and Order.
There were direct cracks at the Liberal Party, with stickers touted bearing the slogans Stop Liberal Slash and Burn Policies Now, as well as Switch Off Abbott & Costello.
Next to a photograph of Vickery, the site promised: "Global Action (Australia) will wipe the cynical 'I've got rights!' smirk right off the faces of criminals, thugs, petty criminals and louts.
"Global Action (Australia) will instantly deport any would-be refugees or asylum seekers who flout the system in any way."
D'Orazio and Whitby told Inside Cover yesterday that they had seen Vickery listed on the Liberal Party website about two weeks ago as its candidate for Morley, but Vickery and Morley had subsequently disappeared off the candidates' section.
"I've mentioned his name to people and no one had heard much of him," Whitby said.
WA Liberal Party president Barry Court said Vickery had initially explained his past activities to the satisfaction of the endorsement committee, but then the party gained information that sounded similar to that obtained by Inside Cover.
Court said the party had told Vickery he would be disendorsed until it had a chance to talk to him again.
Vickery told Inside Cover he did not believe all the views expressed on the Global Action website.
"That website was created as an exercise in mental gymnastics to get feedback," he said.
Asked why he did it, he said: "Why not, there are plenty of fruitcakes out there. I am interested in finding out where the nutcases are.
"You should create a website like that to get feedback from people, it doesn't mean you agree with them. The website was put up as an extreme right-wing website because I wanted to flesh out what was going on."
He said his political views were probably like the Liberal Party and Christian Democratic Party.
‘Why not … I am interested in finding out where the nutcases are.’
LYN VICKERY
"They would like to see a moratorium on Islamic immigration for 10 years," he said.
IC: Do you agree with that?
"I think we should look at how Australia is situated in term of it people and its beliefs. But I don't think I would advocate a 10-year moratorium."
Vickery said his candidacy for Morley was still under consideration. "Someone got too enthusiastic and pushed the button," he said.
He said the Global Action site no longer existed, but he would not answer questions about when it had ceased to operate. #
[RECAPITULATION: "They [Christian Democratic Party] would like to see a moratorium on Islamic immigration for 10 years," he said.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Anything like this makes the "PC" parties duck for cover. They had made a 180-degree turn on immigration in the past 50 years.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
2:193 (or 2:189):- … Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #193>
5:57 (or 5:62):- Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made of your religion a jest and a diversion.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 380;
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 641.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[THE BITER BIT! Contrary to the newsitem, the Global Action International site can be found at: www. globalactint. com . It had been cleared of all previous content, and now gives "Inside Cover" a "serve." E-mail Mr Vickery on mail AT globalactint DOT com.
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#right_curious_case
[p 2, July 11, 2008]
Bali bombers 'ready to die'.
Bali bombers ‘ready to die’
The West Australian, www.thewest.com.au ,
p 7, Friday, July 11, 2008
INDONESIA – Three Indonesian Muslim militants on death row for the 2002 Bali bombings had reaffirmed their readiness to die provided their executions were carried out in accordance with Islamic laws, one of their lawyers said yesterday.
Achmad Michdan said yesterday, on his way to way to Nusakambangan island, off the southern coast of central Java, where the three are incarcerated: "In principle the planned execution is no problem, as long as it has strong legal basis."
Ali Ghufron, alias Mukhlas, his younger brother Amrozi and Imam Samudra were awaiting an Indonesian Supreme Court decision on a third legal review, the latest attempt to stall their executions. #
[RECAPITULATION: … readiness to die provided their executions were carried out in accordance with Islamic laws, one of their lawyers said yesterday.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: One wonders if the Islamic doctrine of blamelessly killing infidels is what this lawyer means. This would mean they would be released, perhaps?
COMMENT ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/ethics/ethcont150.htm#bali_bombers_ready
[p 7, July 11, 2008]
Veiled Muslim woman denied French citizenship amid concerns over her 'radical' religious views.
Veiled Muslim woman denied French citizenship amid concerns over her ‘radical’ religious views
Mail on Sunday (England),
www. mailonsunday. co.uk/news/ worldnews/ article- 1034412/ Veiled- Muslim- woman- denied- French- citizenship- amid- concerns- radical- religious- views.html ,
By Daily Mail Reporter, Last updated at 1:53 AM on July 12, 2008, published July 11, 2008
[Picture] No citizenship: Close up of a Muslim woman in a black hijab
France has denied citizenship to a veiled Moroccan woman on the grounds that her 'radical' Islam is incompatible with French values, a legal ruling revealed.
The case will re-ignite debate about how to reconcile religious freedom with other rights, which many in France feel are being challenged by the way of life of some Muslims.
Le Monde newspaper said it is the first time a Muslim applicant had been rejected because of personal religious practice.
'She has adopted a radical practice of her religion, incompatible with essential values of the French community, particularly the principle of equality of the sexes,' said a ruling by the Council of State.
The council is a judicial body which arbitrates in disputes between individuals and the public administration.
Married to a French national, the woman arrived in France in 2000, speaks good French and has three children born in France.
Thought to be aged 32, she wears a burka that covers all her body except her eyes, and lives in 'total submission' to her husband and male relatives, according to social services.
Her application for French nationality was rejected in 2005 due to 'insufficient assimilation.'
She appealed to the Council of State, which last month upheld the rejection.
In the past, nationality was denied to Muslims who were known to have links with extremist circles or who had publicly advocated radicalism, which is not the case here.
The ruling comes weeks after a heated debate over whether traditional Muslim views were creeping into French law, prompted by a court annulment of the marriage of two Muslims because the husband said the wife was not a virgin as she had claimed to be.
In the case of the Moroccan woman, Le Monde suggested the Council of State had gone to the opposite extreme by rejecting the woman's beliefs and way of life rather than accommodating them.
"Is a burqa incompatible with French nationality?" the newspaper asked.
The legal expert who provided a formal report on the case to the Council of State wrote that the woman's interviews with social services revealed that "she lives almost as a recluse, isolated from French society," Le Monde reported.
"She has no idea about the secular state or the right to vote. She lives in total submission to her male relatives.
She seems to find this normal and the idea of challenging it has never crossed her mind," Emmanuelle Prada-Bordenave wrote.
Le Monde quoted Daniele Lochak, a law professor not involved in the case, as saying it was bizarre to consider that excessive submission to men was a reason not to grant citizenship.
"If you follow that to its logical conclusion, it means that women whose partners beat them are also not worthy of being French.' #
[NAME OF LADY: Later reports have stated the full name of the woman involved: Faiza Mabchour. ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:34 (or 4:38);
33:50 (or 33:49);
33:59 (or 33:57).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Bukhari's 8, 74: 257
TRADITION ENDS.]
[READ AND TRANSLATE ON-LINE: www.lemonde. fr/societe/ article/ 2008/07/11/ la-burqa- symbole_ 1072502_ 3224.html of July 11, 2008. ENDS.]
[ALSO SEE -- Source: Angelique Chrisafis in Paris, "France rejects Muslim woman over radical practice of Islam,"
www.guardian. co.uk/world/ 2008/jul/12/ france. islam ,
The Guardian, UK, July 12, 2008. ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Religion News Blog, at www. religion newsblog. com/21747/ faiza-mabchour- france-burqa .
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#veiled_muslim_woman
[July 11, 2008]
Polygamy -- to attack women's rights.
Polygamy ‘to attack women’s rights.
Letter sent to
The West Australian,
from "Informative Learner," e-mailed 11:10 PM, July 12, 2008
"It's already here and it works, so why do we fear polygamy?" asks Rahim Ghauri of the Islamic Council of WA (10/7).
By a happy chance, elsewhere in the same issue were newsitems "Mothers pledge their babes for Islamic war" in Pakistan, "Chinese police kill holy war suspects in raid," and "17 injured in clashes" in Lebanon.
Westerners do not fear polygamy, but they can work out why a religion that started with caravan raids, and then grew into conquests of neighbouring peoples, would favour polygamy for expansionism, despoiling the infidels to provide the welfare funds to support the extra Muslim children thus produced.
As a June 30 letter-writer put it, "Keysar Trad, who was the translator for the former mufti of Australia and head of the Islamic Friendship Society, said that he himself had proposed to a second wife. At that time Mr Trad had nine children and no steady job and relied on income support from government, yet he still sought another wife to join the throng."
On April 14 there was an internet heading "Hamas MP sees Islamic conquest 'very soon'; Lawmaker for group meeting Carter envisions takeover of Western civilization."
As voting is the custom in our country, in the end there would be the overthrow of our system, and then the replacement of our imperfect family system by a system of men scourging their wives, honour killings, forced marriages of minors, and divorced men kidnapping children and taking them overseas.
On July 11 the news was "Indonesia was behind East Timor bloodshed," "Bali bombers ready to die," "Lebanon clashes go on," "Couple face jail for having sex on Dubai beach," "Militias aim new bombs at US troops," and "Indonesia in energy graft probe."
Please don't tell me that it was self-defence when Muslims in recent years killed East Timorese and destroyed the infrastructure, and murdered holidaymakers in Bali twice.
The global injustices against Muslims will not be solved by spreading Muslim injustice to new lands! Please don't tell me that Islam is the one true religion that destroys crime, when we read of the execution rates in Islamic lands such as Iran!
I think that Mr Ghauri, and your paper's readers, ought to study the secretly-recorded videos by UK Channel 4, "Undercover Mosque," of January 15, 2007. As an example of the religion-based preaching, one said: "We want to have children, and offer 'em as soldiers. Put it into their soft tender hearts, the jewel of jihad."
<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs >.
The leaders of Islam, like the early Mormons, tried to keep polygamy going after the historical shortages of women ended. Islam also teaches that women sex-slaves are permitted (Koran 4:3
<
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.003 >,
and Hadith, Sahih Muslim's Book 8, No. 3371).
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/008.smt.html#008.3371 >.
Somehow the gods of both those religions failed to produce multiple women for every man once those early man-made shortages ended. Polygamy is a
man-made (accent on "man") ploy to attack women's rights -- and men's rights. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#polygamy_to_attack
[Sent July 12, 2008]
Infidels impudent in giving women rights, denying global Caliphate.
Infidels impudent in giving women rights, denying global Caliphate.
"Wise Activist's" comment on "Polygamy -- to attack women's rights,"
e-mailed 12:25 PM, Sunday, July 13, 2008
The "global injustices" that stir them up the most are:-
Infidels' impudent refusal to accept a global Caliphate
Infidels allowing women to get uppity
The women themselves who get uppity and won't keep their mouths shut - like Ayeen Hersi Ali
Real or imagined insults to their creed and the murderous paedophile who founded it
Apostates who see sense and want out
Rival brands of Moslems - especially those with minds, such as the Sufis
Spoilers like the Bahais who quietly pursue their own faith in Mullah-ruled lands
The real injustices - to people, not to their ridiculous religion - are legion
Serb racist massacres in Bosnia
Serb racist colonial control of Kosovo
Russian colonial war against Chechnya
Chinese gunpoint colonial control of Xinjiang
Genocide in Darfur (Oops! No, they're the perps there, not the victims)
Endless European colonial plunder in North Africa and the Middle East
Racist Israel founded on ethnic cleansing
The Blitzkrieg in Iraq
Endless threats to Iran which has attacked nobody in living memory (US sooled Saddam on to Iran, not the other way around)
Denial of the promised plebiscite in Kashmir
The Saudi dictatorship
And here's a conundrum. Why has Britain persisted in importing hordes of Moslems who want a separate government and hate like poison British freethinking and democracy and protection of women? Why were mass demonstrations calling for the murder of a British citizen tolerated day after day in London?
Why is it, now, that pillars of Britain's caste society like the Archbishop of Canterbury and a senior judge are calling for accommodation of sharia law? Like 9/11, one can apply cui bono for an answer.
The result of this imported Islamic establishment is terrorist cells that let off bombs (maybe with some adroit help from MI6). And from this is growing a massive police state in Britain with the most draconic laws not to control terrorists but to suppress political dissent. The whole scenario is being repeated in modified form in Australia. Why?
I think it could be explained by a long term plan for the establishment of police states in the Western world to hold down dissent in order to bring about a catastrophic shift in economic wealth, power over the populations and control of the world's resources.
Naomi Klein has described it very well. Use of fear and chaos to persuade the community to accept fascist securocrats' "protection". The fear and chaos arise from
Real natural disasters (e.g. New Orleans flood)
Trumped up predictions of disaster (think Garnaut and the CO2 scam)
Terrorism
Scary false flag events often arranged with witting or unwitting help of the terrorist outfits themselves (Reichstag fire, Hilton bomb, 9/11, possibly 1603 Guy Fawkes bomb plot)
Financial collapse
Planned agricultural destruction through enforcing one-crop economies
Armed invasion (e.g. Iraq, Vietnam)
All these and more cause disruption into which Mr Greed steps in ostensibly to protect the people but really to take control of infrastructure and resources and the coercive organs of the state.
-- "Wise Activist"
PS: The gods of at least one religion do produce multiple women for every man - 72 celestial sex slaves as a reward for getting killed creating mayhem. Problem was their virginity is reconstituted daily and anyway they are not on earth, so they can't be much help to the population bomb. #
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#infidels_impudent_in
[July 13, 08]
[Send pro-polygamists back home; spat on three times in Malaysia.]
WE AGREE
[Send pro-polygamists back home; spat on three times in Malaysia.]
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor, p 22, Tuesday, July 15, 2008
I read the letters from Craig Bradshaw (Absurd claims), Peta Bacon (We are all equal) and Michelle Shave (Picture tells the story, 14/7) and completely agree with what these people are saying.
We live in what's been said to be the best country in the world because of our freedom and equal rights and now we have these people like Rahim Ghauri saying that polygamy will be a positive thing.
First thing we need to do is send him and the rest of them straight back to their countries. Just because they've stuffed up their home countries doesn't mean they should bring their ridiculous beliefs over here. There is no way our country would be stupid enough to even consider allowing multiple wives. It is a degrading thing.
I went on a holiday four years ago to Malaysia thinking that it was going to be awesome. I entered their country with the same attitude that Muslims enter ours (expecting to do what they like). It was 42C and I wore a sarong and singlet around for a day. To my disgust I was refused currency exchange at the counter, I was refused service at three shops and was spat on three times that day.
Do you know why? Because it was against their religion and I was disrespecting their beliefs. You are not allowed to show skin and have to be covered up entirely.
I will never go back there to their double-standard country. Now I understand their religious requirements for their country they can have it, but I'm telling all Muslims out there, if you expect us to live by your way in your own country, then don't expect to not live by our ways. Let's keep it how we like it.
This is Australia and we are proud to call it home – for now! #
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
5:54 (or 5:59):- …lowly towards the faithful, haughty towards the infidels. …
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html# 54
{Click:} 33:48 (or 33:47); 48:16.
48:29:- …those who follow Him are tender to one another, but ruthless to unbelievers. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Malik's Muwatta, Book 9, Number 9.10.36.
TRADITION ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#send_pro-polygamists_back
[July 15, 2008]
Trio admit to terror counts [to blow up Atlantic flights in 2006.]
Trio admit to terror counts
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 24, Tuesday, July 15, 2008
LONDON – Three men accused of plotting suicide attacks on transatlantic flights pleaded guilty yesterday to conspiring to cause explosions.
The pleas of Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 27, Assad Sarwar, 28, and Tanvir Hussain, 27, came as their trial at Woolwich Crown Court in south-east London was drawing to a close.
The trio and two other defendants, Ibrahim Savant, 27, and Umar Islam, 30, also pleaded guilty to conspiring to cause public nuisance by publishing videos threatening suicide bomb attacks.
A jury must still decide if the five men and three other defendants are guilty of conspiring to commit mass murder by smuggling homemade liquid bombs on to passenger jets flying from London to major cities in North America.
All eight men deny two charges of conspiracy to murder between January 1 and August 11, 2006.
Airlines quickly imposed tough limits on the amount of liquids and gels airline passengers could take in their carry-on luggage. #
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
22:19 (or 22:20):- …But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads.
< www. submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >.
98:6 (or 98:5):- But the unbelievers among the people of the Book, and among the Polytheists, shall go into the fire of Gehenna to abide therein for aye. Of all creatures are they the worst!.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
{Click:} Sahih Muslim's collection, 41:6985.
Sahih Muslim's, Book 037, Number 6670:-
Ibn Shihab reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made an expedition to Tabuk and he (the Holy Prophet) had in his mind (the idea of threatening the) Christians of Arabia in Syria and those of Rome. [***]
TRADITION ENDS.]
[QUESTION: Should Australian taxpayers' funds be spent on schools which teach the above doctrines?
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#trio_admit_to_terror
[July 15, 2008]
Andrews wanted Christian migrants.
Andrews wanted Christian migrants
The Weekend Australian,
by Richard Kerbaj, pp 1 and 2, July 19-20, 2008
AUSTRALIA –
FORMER immigration minister Kevin Andrews instructed his department to lift the intake of Christian refugees from the Middle East in response to what he saw as a pro-Muslim bias created by corrupt local case officers.
Mr Andrews … wrote to then prime minister John Howard advocating a $200 million plan to replace local employees with
Australian staff in 10 "sensitive" countries, including Jordan, Iran and Egypt.
Opposition immigration spokesman Chris Ellison said yesterday this remained Coalition policy. [… ]
Before losing office in the November 2007 election, he ordered the number of Christian Iraqi refugees to be increased by 1400 for 2007-08, almost doubling the previous year's Iraqi total of 1639.[… ]
In particular, this allegedly involves the active blocking and impediment of the lodgement of applications at the front office. [… ]
Read the rest in the newspaper, or click:
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/cont20.htm#andrews_wanted_christian
[July 19-20, 2008]
Worlds Apart. [We are not helping integration by encouraging Islamic schools].
WE DISAGREE
[We are not helping integration by encouraging Islamic schools]
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor, p 22, Wednesday, July 23, 2008
WORLDS APART
As usual, Daniel Baldwin has given us something to think about but I believe he has got it wrong (Do the crackpots understand Islam? 22/7).
His final paragraph would seem to contradict what he is saying; we have freedom, yes, but justice is questionable and acceptance and love are only in moderation.
Most of us are not racist but, in our experience, Muslims do not want to be friendly – their world is different and they do not wish to be part of ours. We are not helping integration by encouraging Islamic schools and colleges.
Generally we have nothing against Islam, only its interpretation by militants who want the whole world to accept their religion and who will resort to murder and torture to achieve that.
We do not want polygamy and Sharia law or the full-face veil
– and it is ludicrous to allow it on a driver's licence. Would a Muslim country be prepared to research our religion and permit it to be practised in their countries? Tolerance goes only so far.
I am not unhappy to have Muslim near-neighbours – they seem a nice family. Unfortunately, they cannot speak English.
[ENCAPSULATE: Separate schools, polygamy, sharia, full-face veil even on MDLs, no English.
. ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#worlds_apart_we_are
[July 24, 2008]
I understand Islam only too well.
I understand Islam only too well
The West Australian,
Various Letters to The Editor, p 22, Thursday, July 24, 2008
In response to Daniel Baldwin's letter (Do the crackpots understand Islam? 22/7), the answer to the majority of Mr Baldwin's list of questions is "yes".
I lived for some years in a Muslim country – Libya – in the 1980s. I met some wonderful people there and made some great friends. I also came across some truly evil people. Real foaming at the mouth, intolerant West-haters. I also discovered that the secret police force was alive and well and very anti-Western.
We lived in a largely dysfunctional society with a banking system crippled by the inability of banks to pay or receive interest (which I gather is un-Islamic). Many employees were paid directly into their bank accounts, only to have strict limits placed on access to their own money.
While the people were pleasant, the "official face" of authority was very anti-Western and downright unpleasant.
There was no equality of the sexes. Indeed, it was commonplace to see women travelling in the back of
utes
while the guys sat in the front. I even saw on one occasion a sheep in the passenger seat and a woman travelling on the tray. I kid you not.
So yes, Mr Baldwin, I have lived in a Muslim country and experienced a society based on Islam. And I can assure you it was not all enlightenment and roses.
Mr Baldwin is entirely accurate when he says that "all over the world, people want justice freedom, acceptance and love". And that is precisely why they come to Australia because few of those things are the norm in the countries they left.
It's ironic to read Mr Baldwin's comments when in the very same edition in which his letter appears, only a few pages earlier, there was a report about Iran's plan to stone to death nine people in the name of that enlightened religion – Islam.
As an Australian, I welcome people from anywhere, but I don't welcome just anybody from anywhere. I welcome those who wish to escape from the privations they have suffered, who can (maybe with time) contribute to this country and who are prepared to adopt (in bread terms) our way of life and not bring with them the very aspects of their previous lives that they chose to leave behind.
No justification
In response to the strange letter from Daniel Baldwin, apart from being very limited in Arabic, I meet all of his other requirements.
I have just finished re-reading the Koran and I found it just as repetitive, contradictory, cruel and self-serving as I found it 30 years ago. I would strongly suggest that Mr Baldwin reads the book
Why I am not a Muslim by Ibn Warraq. This is an important book because it uses only Islamic references to debunk the Koran and the aspects of Islamic culture that arise from it.
Perhaps Mr Baldwin would like to comment on the report that appeared on page 14 of the newspaper the same day his letter was published. Death by stoning for committing adultery is hardly what one would expect from a loving god. But then death is also the penalty for the rejection of Islam, blasphemy and prostitution, and many other offences. True, it is usually the poor and uneducated who suffer this fate so I suppose to Mr Baldwin it does not matter.
Perhaps, Mr Baldwin and other writers to these pages could amuse us with a sophist justification for such unspeakable behaviour.
Alarm bells
On the same afternoon that I read the rant by Daniel Baldwin I happened to catch a bus to Victoria Park from Maddington.
I was amused when across the seat from me sat a Muslim woman who reacted most strongly when a white male sat next to her. Her body language and her mutterings caused him to look at her and ask if something was the matter.
He was told to move to another seat and when he informed her he was an Australian and he would sit where he liked, she instantly rang the bell and as she stood up gave him this speech: "You may be the rulers of this country now, but this will change and then things will be very different for all of you."
Stunned, we all looked on as she took off angrily.
So, don't worry Mr Baldwin, very soon, given Labor's immigration policy, you will be experiencing the very Islamic way of life you and your left-wing cohorts so obviously desire.
In the meantime, maybe you could move to the Islamic state that was once called London to live among your mates providing you can find an area where white people are allowed to live.
While you are there maybe you I could console Tony Blair's wife who recently stated in an English newspaper how terrified she is for her children's safety due to the violence that ethnic gangs have brought to her country.
Oh the irony!
WE DISAGREE
[MASS KILLING, STONING IN STREET, HANGED, ARMS CRUSHED]
Daniel, perhaps Islamophobia has been derived from a few of the following: how can a group of people in the name of religion hijack planes and fly them into buildings to kill as many people as possible because they are not of their belief? Why is it that for trying Christianity in Nigeria you risk being put to death?
Ask the Chinese Malays how they feel about persecution in their country of birth. How is it possible in the new millennium with this religion of peace that people can be stoned to death in the street or hanged from proxy gallows on the back of trucks without trial? How is it possible that by religious punishment children can have their arms rolled over by a truck?
Give me one good reason why we can be anything other than suspicious, judgmental and paranoid about a so-called peaceful religion that has proved over time to be nothing but barbaric and archaic.
[STONING HERE, or GO TO MUSLIM COUNTRY?]
Daniel Baldwin should think himself lucky he lives in a country where he can write a load of rubbish and have it published in the newspaper. Mr Baldwin, did you read the report on page 14 about your beloved Muslims and their barbaric execution of nine people for so-called adultery? Do you want this to happen at Subiaco Oval instead of football?
I don't think all the brain-dead Aussies would want that. If you think that the Muslims' way of life is so good, why don't you go to a Muslim country and take them all back with you? It would be interesting to see how soon you would be running back to us brain-dead Aussies. Goodbye, Mr Baldwin.
[DENIGRATED PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT VIEW]
Daniel Baldwin's letter was quite fascinating. It seems he is free to denigrate people (whom he probably knows nothing about) when they express an opinion on a topic he feels they know nothing about. Clearly he believes the people who write in support of a topic don't have to justify their credentials and only those with a point of view different to his are crackpots.
[NOT FREE TO CONVERT IN IRAN]
Daniel Baldwin asks how many xenophobic crackpots, which obviously encompasses anyone whose opinion differs to his own, have read the Koran. Fortunately, in Australia I can read the Koran and if I'm of a mind, convert to Islam.
If, however, I lived in Iran, read the Bible and converted to Christianity I would be put to death. I'm also free to write to the press with my "crackpot" musings.
[RECAPITULATION: –
London – maybe you I could console Tony Blair's wife who recently stated in an English newspaper how terrified she is for her children's safety due to the violence that ethnic gangs have brought to her country. […]
"You may be the rulers of this country now, but this will change and then things will be very different for all of you." ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#i_understand_islam
[July 24, 2008]
Muslim-World No-Confidence Votes: David calling.
David calling
Muslim-World No-Confidence Votes
The David Pryce-Jones Blog, National Review Online,
http:// pryce-jones. national review. com/post/? q=YmYwMjRj MGEzNWQwYj YyNDhlNWUw YmVmNWIx NzJmNmM= ,
by David Pryce-Jones, Wednesday, July 30, 2008
In the last few days, the Muslim world has revealed its political working in the most tragic way. Bombs in Turkey killed scores. Bombs in India, placed by Muslims, killed scores more. Bombs in Iraq, exploded by women who killed themselves in the process, killed over 50, and wounded many more. Bombs have been set off in Algeria, probably by al-Qaeda now building a base in that country.
Palestinians in Fatah exploded bombs in Gaza City, killing members of Hamas, its Palestinian rivals. Five bomb outrages within the space of a week, and the huge majority of the victims were Muslim, like the perpetrators. Also in the same week the Iranian authorities executed no less than 30 people, most of them young, and charged with crimes that cannot be verified.
It is tempting to say that this is all the doing of savage brutes, and that in the end everyone will turn on them. Undoubtedly those responsible for the killings are savage brutes, but they are also calculating, devious, secretive, long-term planners, excellent at recruiting simple people to run risks for them. These are no mean skills. In their way, then, these killers have a dreadful sort of intelligence. Their goal is power and they pursue it single-mindedly.
In civil societies, power is diffused through the checks and balances of institutions, and these Muslim killers would be seen as mere psychopaths. In Islamic society so far, institutions instead concentrate power in the hands of whoever can seize and hold it. So those in power kill to maintain their position, and those in opposition kill to take their place.
These bombs and executions, then, are the equivalent in the Muslim world of no-confidence votes in a parliament. And just as a parliamentary vote determines the direction a society will move in, so does all this killing. Except that in the former case, the direction is onwards, in the latter case backwards, further and further backwards to degradation.
07/30 01:33 PM #
© National Review Online 2008. All Rights Reserved.
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
2:286;
5:59-60 (or 5:64-65);
6:32.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sunan Abu-Dawud's, 38, 4356.
TRADITION ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#muslim_world_no_confidence
[July 30, 2008]
Support for extremists.
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
by Muhammad ‘Abd Al-Muttalib Al-Houni, p 14, (orig. Feb 26, 2008), July 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 14 JULY 2008
How can Muslims oppose Shari‘a, when the Archbishop of Canterbury seeks to implement it?
SUPPORT FOR EXTREMISTS
By Muhammad
‘Abd Al-Muttalib Al-Houni
ALTHOUGH the demands announced by the bishop are far from implementation in Europe – the reverberations of these demands will have a grave {impact} on the Islamic world.
The Islamic world has been suffering from fundamentalist attacks on what is left of secular society in their countries. These fundamentalists want to implement a shari‘a law that contravenes human rights, taking as their model and inspiration the seventh-century state {established by} the Prophet Muhammad in Medina.
At present, these {fundamentalists} are picking fights with the secularists in Islamic countries, and their attitude is: 'How can you oppose shari‘a law in your own countries when we see that the Anglican Church is seeking its implementation in Europe?'
His message is wrong, and it is detrimental to all pleas for modernism and secularism in the Islamic world. Such {pleas} are weak enough as it is, overpowered as they are by the tsunami of Islamist extremists who accuse {those who voice} them of subordination {to the West}, treason, and heresy. Such statements by some Anglican clerics are nothing less than support for the ideas of Islamist extremists, and are also an attempt to make fundamentalist religious thought triumph over secular thought in the Islamic countries.
– Muhammad ‘Abd Al-Muttalib Al-Houni in the Arab liberal e-journal Elaph, February 26, 2008. His comments apply across the religious spectrum to all Christians who through ignorance defend an Islam that many Muslims themselves find intolerable.
[COMMENT: In addition to this, Britain's Queen, Lords, and Commons have agreed to give up their national sovereignty to the European Union, and the treaty of accession has been signed. The "woolly" thinking of the Archbishop of Canterbury is mirrored in the senseless bureaucracy of the EU Commission. Incidentally, it has twice been exposed as hopelessly corrupt, all commissioners resigning -- but being replaced by similar classes of people!
COMMENT ENDS.]
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ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/ethics/ethcont150.htm#support_for_extremists
[(Sort as July 31) p 14, July 2008]
An unspeakable nightmare, an unstoppable dream.
[An "honour" rape in a rural area of Pakistan; and now an all-girls' school.]
BONUS READ
An Unspeakable
Nightmare,
An Unstoppable Dream
After she was brutally assaulted, the illiterate Pakistani was supposed to restore her family’s honour by killing herself.
Instead, Mukhtar Mai chose to live, to fight for justice and to find a better life for women like herself.
BY ROBERT KIENER
Australian Reader's Digest,
editors.au@ readersdigest. com ,
by Robert Kiener, pp 122-36, Rec'd July, issue of August 2008
[Paraphrase:] After her younger brother had an innocent encounter with a young woman from the powerful Mastoi clan, the clan insisted that she be punished.
Modesty was a commandment, and according to sharia, traditional Islamic law, it was forbidden for any female to walk with any male outside their family.
The punishment was that the young lad's SISTER, be raped. And four Mastoi men raped her on the hard dirt floor of a stable, while she screamed.
When the Mastois learnt that Mukhtar was going to report the rape, they threatened to kill her. The police took the family to the provincial police station in nearby Jatoi.
Thanks to her brave decision to report this crime to the police, Mukhtar Mai's story received regional news coverage, then national and international coverage.
For centuries the country's tribal laws had long condoned these attacks on women as "repayment" for alleged wrongs. More than 100 Pakistani women are gang-raped and more are killed each year in the name of "honour."
The government decided to represent her against her alleged rapists.
Before the trial, Pakistan's then federal minister for women, Attiya Inayatullah, handed her a cheque for around $8800. She said she did not need the money, but she wanted a school. (p 130)
And with that money, she purchased land near her home and enlisted workers.
She went door to door, with a police bodyguard, but it was some time before a few parents allowed a handful of girls to go to school.
Girls sat on wheat sacks instead of chairs, and when money ran low Mukhtar sold her earrings and her cow. Donations came, and finally she could afford to hire men to make wooden chairs and desks, and ceiling fans were installed. (p 132)
She set up the Mukhtar Mai Women's Crisis Relief Centre alongside her first school.
On March 3, 2005, the Lahore High Court overturned the convictions of five of the six convicted Mastois, and the sixth had his sentence commuted from death to life imprisonment. (pp 133-34)
An average of five victims (or their relatives) come to the crisis centre daily. Murders, beatings, and rapes are reported. (p 135)
Rashid Rehman, a Pakistani human rights activist, says, "Against all odds, this humble peasant has led a quiet revolution." (p 136)
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:15 (or 4:14, or 4:19);
4:34 (or 4:38);
24:31;
33:55.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Bukhari's 8, 74:257;
8, 80:741.
TRADITION ENDS.]
[THE ALLEGED HOLINESS of the religion is contrasted with the daily number of atrocities reported to her crisis centre in rural Pakistan. If and when the present military dictatorship is replaced, and fervent Islamists take charge, she will probably be charged with having had sex outside marriage, and eliminated or forced to become a refugee in a foreign land. END.]
[FIND THE BOOK ABOUT HER: In the Name of Honour, 2006, MAI, Mukhtar, with Marie Thérèse CUNY; London, Virago Press,
www.virago. co.uk . ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#an_unspeakable_nightmare
[Rec'd ~ 24 July, issue of August 2008]
You want facts [about Islam?] I disagree.
I DISAGREE
YOU WANT FACTS?
The West Australian,
Letters to The Editor, p 23, Saturday, August 2, 2008
[Someone] writes that the exposure of Islamism should be based on evidence, facts, statistics and research findings (Letters, 31/7).
So why does he say that recent letter-writers are prejudiced against Muslims? Some quote the Koran and other quasi-sacred writings which fulminate against Jews, Christians, unbelievers, and hypocrites, threatening
death,
slavery,
or subject-people status, and eternal
damnation.
This week some murderous bombers followed up their bombings with bombs in the hospitals to which the patients might have sought surgery and sanctuary.
In another country, Muslims on pilgrimage were bombed – they were the wrong sort of Muslims, evidently.
In previous months we read of murders at funerals, weddings, markets, in DVD shops and the like. Women became suicide bombers. Children in a bombing car were driven past a checkpoint, and then abandoned as the cowardly Islamists ran away and set the bombs off. A halfwit boy was sent off to be a suicide bomber.
Go through the daily papers and subscribe to a good Islamic watch website, and realise that these atrocities are not being condemned by the main Islamic leaders.
Although an Islamic religious leader offered $1 million reward to kill the author Salman Rushdie, no such fatwas have been offered for mass-murder preachers like Osama Bin Laden or the Indonesian leaders of that terror campaign which has already claimed Australian holidaymakers' lives.
Open both eyes, please!#
Floodgates open
Here we go again. Could somebody please put a gag on those two loonie lefties, Messrs Rudd and Evans. Our immigration policy is probably the best it has ever been and now these two patsies want to open the floodgates again. Are they mad?
I know that Messrs Keating and Hawke are retired, but being architects of our present system, how about getting on the blower to your pal Kev and telling him to keep his hands off the present set-up.
Be careful, Mr Rudd, you could be a one-term Government.
#
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
2:63 and 2:65 (or 2:60-61):- … We said to them: "Be ye apes. Despised and rejected."
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #63 >
5:17 (or 5:19):- In blasphemy indeed are those that say God is Christ the son of Mary.
– < www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html #17 >
5:51 (or 5:56):- O you who believe!
do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other;
– < www.submission. org/suras/ sura5.html #51 >
47:4:- When ye encounter the infidels,
strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them […]
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's, 4, 53:386:-
Narrated Jubair bin Haiya:
Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans. When Al-Hurmuzan embraced Islam, Umar said to him. "I would like to consult you regarding these countries which I intend to invade." [… ]
Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute); and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:– "Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master." [… ]
Sahih Muslim's, 41:6985:- … Allah's Messenger … saying The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree …
TRADITION ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#you_want_facts
[Aug 2, 08]
Sharia law in Europe: As the World Turns.
As the World Turns: Sharia law in Europe
News Weekly, (Melbourne, Vic., Australia),
http://www. newsweekly. com.au/ articles/ 2008aug02_ p.html , (orig. July 2008)
p 11, August 2, 2008
In Britain, the Lord Chief Justice has just told an audience in one of the largest mosques in London that there is a place in Britain for sharia law. The Archbishop of Canterbury not long ago was of the same opinion. The pillars of the Establishment, in other words, are willing to collapse what they were supposed to be upholding.
The Swiss are not taking so easily to creeping Islamisation.
A mosque already existed in Geneva, but when the Muslim community sought to have a second mosque, the City Fathers replied that this would be possible when the Christians were allowed a church in Saudi Arabia.
The Swiss Peoples' Party (SVP) has raised a storm by collecting more than 100,000 signatures on a petition calling for a ban on minarets in the country. Minarets, according to the SVP, are "symbols of political-religious imperialism". A spokesman for the party pointed out that, "Many women, even socialists, signed this petition because not one Swiss woman can tolerate the way that Muslim men treat their wives."
The Swiss authorities, including the country's President, recommend the rejection of the ban on minarets. They are openly and explicitly terrified of provoking Muslim anger, thus bringing a security risk on themselves. That's also the sum total of the argument put forward in Britain by the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Lord Chief Justice.
All these great persons on the one hand openly hold themselves and their societies in disdain, and on the other hand show an even greater degree of contempt for Muslims by treating them as creatures of a fanaticism so furious that it can only be propitiated and never reasoned with or moderated.
- from David Pryce-Jones's blog, "A place for sharia law in Britain", July 11, 2008.
URL: http://pryce- jones.national review.com/ archives/ (July 2008)
[SEE ALSO:
http://geneva lunchcom.site. securepod. com/node/3479 .
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#sharia_law_in_europe
[orig. July 08; Aug 2, 08]
[Soft talk until time for draconian approach:] I disagree.
I DISAGREE
[Soft talk until time for draconian approach.]
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor, p 22, Friday, August 15, 2008
Rhys Jones and Andrew Richardson (Letters, 11/8) expound the classic left rationale for terrorism, but their rhetoric simply does not stand up to scrutiny.
Terrorism in Iraq has much more to do with the fact that the Americans cannot impose anything like the same level of oppression that Saddam Hussein was able to inflict. This perceived weakness is exploited by elements every bit as authoritarian as the previous regime. Osama bin Laden was actively trying to destabilise Saudi Arabia long before there were any American troops in that country.
The troops are no longer there but his battle goes on because he wants to impose a very fundamentalist regime on the people. This is strongly opposed by the rising middle class, especially women, and by the elitist elements that surround the king and those who benefit from his largesse.
Acts of terrorism carried out in the US and Britain are hardly the result of oppression. The majority of those involved were much better off than they ever were in their homeland and subject to less coercion. This seems to indicate that the analysis of Rod Moran (New examination of what makes a terrorist, 8/8) is far more accurate than that espoused by irrational left-wing apologists such as Messrs Jones and Richardson.
While acts of suppression may provide a ready-made justification, the fact is that terrorism is overwhelmingly ideological. Clearly not all Muslims are terrorists, but in today's world most terrorists are Islamic.
Islam is a very cruel religion that promises
death and
damnation to any who decide to leave and it is a tribute to the courage of the many thousands worldwide who nevertheless take the risk and do so. Even more comforting is the fact that in an educated country like Iran, which has a proud culture that is far older than Islam, the mullahs are universally lamenting the fact that there are no young people in the mosqaes. I
Islam has a long history of using immigration as a weapon of war and its many apologists say it is a religion of harmony and understanding.
However, Mohammed also preached this before he conquered Mecca, after which
tolerance was abandoned for a far more draconian approach.
Today's text
Pray that our Lord will make us strong and give us peace. – PSALMS 29:11.
(The Bible for Today). From the Bible Society.
Letters to the Editor, WA Newspapers, GPO Box N1027 Perth WA 6843. Fax 08 9482 3830. E-mail to: letters /@/ wanews /./ com /./ au
[RECAPITULATION: Acts of terrorism carried out in the US and Britain … The majority of those involved were much better off than they ever were in their homeland and subject to less coercion. ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
5:10 (or 5:13):- …
Those who reject faith and deny Our Signs will be Companions of Hell-fire.
6:70 (or 6:69):- And leave those who have taken their religion for a play and an idle sport, and whom this world's life has deceived, and remind (them) thereby lest a soul should be given up to destruction for what it has earned; it shall not have besides Allah any guardian nor an intercessor, and if it should seek to give every compensation, it shall not be accepted from it; these are they who shall be given up to destruction for what they earned; they shall have a drink of boiling water and a painful chastisement because they disbelieved.
16:106 (or 16:108):- … whoso openeth his breast to disbelief … on such shall be wrath from Allah, and a severe punishment awaiteth them.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/016. qmt.html #016.106 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's Volume 9, Book 84, Number 58:- [Regarding a Jew who had become a Muslim, then returned to Judaism:] Mu'adh said, I will not sit down till he has been killed. … and he was killed.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/funda mentals/hadith sunnah/bukhari/ 084.sbt.html# 009.084.058 >.
Sunan Abu-Dawud's, Bk. 38, No. 4356: -
… Some people raided the camels of the Prophet (peace_be_ upon_him), drove them off, and apostatised. They killed the herdsman of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_ upon_him) who was a believer. He (the Prophet) sent (people) in pursuit of them and they were caught. He had their hands and feet cut off, and their eyes put out. The verse regarding fighting against Allah and His Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was then revealed. …
TRADITION ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#soft_talk_until
[August 15, 2008]
[Pilgrims on way to Hidden Imam, authorities, ordinary folk, still targets.]
[Pilgrims on way to Hidden Imam, authorities, ordinary folk, still targets.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Monday, August 18, 2008
Page 26. "Bomb attacks on pilgrims fuel fears of Iraq sectarian violence."
BAGHDAD:

Bombers struck Shi'ite pilgrims for a third straight day on Saturday, killing six people in Baghdad in the latest in a series of attacks apparently aimed at stoking sectarian tension. The attacks targeted pilgrims headed for the Shi'ite city of Karbala, where hundreds of thousands of people gathered for festivities. No group has claimed responsibility.
On Friday a passenger van packed with explosives blew up at Balad, killing nine and wounding 11. On Thursday a female suicide bomber killed 18 pilgrims in Latifiyah. The pilgrimage is for Shabanihyah, marking the birth of Imam Mohammed al-Mahdi, the "Hidden Imam," who disappeared in the ninth century and is expected to return some day to usher in world peace and harmony.
The United Nations tomorrow will commemorate the fifth anniversary of the bombing of its Baghdad office which killed 22 staff, including envoy Sergio Vieira de Mello. After the bombing, the UN scaled down its relief presence in Iraq dramatically.
[Picture of three rows of long firearms, man blindfolded with arms tied behind back, and five soldiers.] Mission accomplished: Iraqi soldiers stand guard over automatic weapons and a suspect captured during raids in west Baghdad on Saturday. They also arrested the head of a Sunni group accused of supporting terrorism. Picture: Associated Press
[COMMENT: Supposed piety, resurrection and return beliefs, relief work, law, and order are the targets here. But no-one can be sure if the Western secret services are not doing some of the bombings. Memo: Ask yourself if Westerners, Russians, and Chinese are profiting from the making and selling of the automatic weapons. ENDS.]
Page 26. "Support for Anwar."
MALAYSIA:

Thousands of supporters escorted Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim on Saturday as he registered his candidacy for a parliamentary by-election, in spite of the government, again, charging him with sodomy.
Page 26. "Security clamp to tackle Kabul violence."
KABUL:

About 7000 police launched a big security operation in the Afghan capital today to clear certain areas, create trust, disrupt bombings, and seize narcotics. There has been an increase in militant attacks, kidnappings, and other crime.
The operation came a day after the Education Minister Mhd Hanif Atmar escaped a roadside bomb. In Zabul province, in the south of the country, the Taliban ambushed a
NATO supply convoy, sparking a battle in which 32 fighters and five private security guards were killed.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#pilgrims_on_way
[COMMENT: The Shi'ite pilgrims, when dubbed by the other major Muslim sect as "apostates," then go into the category of "infidels" and "unbelievers," so become suitable victims of crucifying, beheading, and/or dismembering, worthy for garments of fire, or can be overcome or kidnapped and held for ransom. Oh joy! No restraint in this Faith!
Doubters are referred to the Koran, the Hadith, the biographies, and the sharia law.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Aug 18, 08]
Terrorist 'Mr Fix-It' convicted with two others of terrorism offences.
Terrorist ‘Mr Fix-It’ convicted with two others of terrorism offences
The Crown Prosecution Service (United Kingdom),
http://www. cps.gov.uk/ news/ pressreleases/ 154_08.html ,
August 18, 2008
BRITAIN –
Aabid Khan was a terrorism facilitator with international connections and the leader of a cell which gathered a library of terrorism information helpful to those plotting attacks, said Karen Jones of the Crown Prosecution Service Counter Terrorism Division.
Together with Sultan Muhammed and Hammaad Munshi, Aabid Khan was found guilty of charges that included possessing an article for a purpose connected with terrorism and making a record of information likely to be useful in terrorism. Ahmed Suleiman was found not guilty of the same charges.
Mrs Jones, the reviewing lawyer in the case, said: 'The evidence showed Khan was a committed and active supporter of Al Qaida ideology. He had extensive amounts of the sort of information that a terrorist would need and use and the international contacts to pass it on.
'The prosecution case was that Aabid Khan was the link between Sultan Muhammed and Hammaad Khan. Police found the three had computer files and discs, books, documents and videos as the tools of their trade – terrorism.
'There were not only items of propaganda but practical guides on making explosives and poisons and a particularly chilling step-by-step video guide of how to make a suicide vest.
'Aabid Khan was very much the 'Mr Fix-it' of the group. He preyed on vulnerable young people and turned them into recruits to his cause, using internet chat to lure them in then incite them to fight. He arranged their passage to Pakistan for terrorism training, and talked about a 'worldwide battle'.'
Hammaad Munshi was only 15 when he met Aabid Khan and Mrs Jones said he is one of the youngest people in England and Wales to be charged with a terrorism offence at the age of 16.
She said: 'When looking at the evidence against Hammaad Munshi I was satisfied there was enough for a case to go to court and that it was in the public interest, despite his young age.
'The prosecution told the jury of his dedication to the cause of Al Qaida, and of discussions with Aabid Khan which included how he could travel abroad and smuggle a sword with him.'
When reviewing the evidence against Aabid Khan and the others, Mrs Jones said she made the decision they should be charged under Sec 57 of the Terrorism Act 2000, that says someone has in their possession an article in circumstances which give rise to a reasonable suspicion that the possession was for a purpose connected with the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism.
She said: 'The purpose of this legislation is to enable the police and the prosecuting authorities to act early against people who possess articles for a terrorist purpose, before a plan or conspiracy to commit a particular act has necessarily been formed.
'There was clarification by the Court of Appeal earlier this year on the use of Sec 57 and this case shows people can still be charged and convicted where there is the evidence.'
Notes to Editors
For further information contact Julie Seddon, CPS Press Office, 020 7796 8180; email julie.seddon@cps.gsi.gov.uk.
Aabid Khan was charged with four offences under Sec 57 (1) of the Terrorism Act 2000.
Sultan Muhammed was charged with three offences under Sec 57 (1) of the Terrorism Act 2000 and one offence under Sec 58 (1) of the Terrorism Act 2000.
Hammaad Munshi was charged with one offence under Sec 57 (1) of the Terrorism Act 2000 and one offence under Sec 58 (1) of the Terrorism Act 2000.
Ahmed Hassan Suleiman was charged with three offences under Sec 57 (1) of the Terrorism Act 2000.
Sec 57 (1) - possessing an article for a purpose connected with terrorism - carries a maximum sentence of 10 years. Sec 58 (1) – making a record of information likely to be useful in terrorism – carries a maximum sentence of 10 years.
The trial started on 9 June 2008 at Blackfriars Crown Court.
[COMMENT: A relocation policy is looking better every month!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah) and HADITH extracts are worth visiting.
ENDS.]
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[August 18, 2008]
[Bombings, self-whippings, hangings, attacks on Christians, own women.]
[Bombings, self-whippings, hangings, attacks on Christians, own women.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Thursday, August 21, 2008
Page 3. "Bid to halt anti-Semitic channel: Broadcasting authorities act as Hizbollah-owned satellite television station beams race hate propaganda into Australia."
MELBOURNE:

Authorities are trying to stop an anti-Jewish satellite-TV station telecasting into Australia from Indonesia, which rejects US efforts to take it off air.
It perpetuates the "blood libel," that says Judaists use the blood of Christian children in Passover meals. It is anti-Israel and anti-US.
Al-Manar is a channel owned by Hezbollah, the militant Shi'ite Muslim Lebanese group. It has just started again, using a company part-owned by the Indonesian Government.
Australia-Israel Review editor Tzvi Fleischer said its reappearance was of deep concern. The Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) yesterday confirmed that it had begun enquiries.
Page 4. "Bali bombers' execution likely after Ramadan."
JAKARTA:

The three Islamic militants on death row over the Bali bombings would not be executed before the Islamic holy fasting month of Ramadan. Indonesian Attorney-General Hendarman Supandiji said the formal paperwork had not reached his office. Lawyers for the three men argue that death by firing squad is inhumane and therefore unconstitutional.
[COMMENT: Months ago the three said they were willing to face death for the cause, but the appeals have gone on and on. ENDS.]
Page 23. "Jury out in 12 man 'terrorist cell' trial."
MELBOURNE:

Jurors have begun deciding the fate of 12 Melbourne me accused of being members of a home-grown terrorist cell. The trial has lasted 115 days. The alleged leader is Abdul Nacer Benbrika (48).
Page 26. "Call to Bhutto widower."
ISLAMABAD:

The widower of murdered Benazir Bhutto, Asif Ali Zardari, has been backed by an opposition party. The two major opposition parties do not agree on restoring all the judges that recently-resigned Pervez Musharraf ousted.
On Tuesday, official reported the deaths of 24 militants, five soldiers, and five civilians in Bajur. The toll from a suicide bomb attack at a hospital rose to 26.
Page 26. "Bombs kill 11 more in Algeria."
ALGIERS:

Two car bomb attacks in Bouira, eastern Algeria, have killed at least 11 people, following a suicide bombing on Tuesday that killed 43. One blast hit a bus parked near the Sophie hotel in the city centre, and the second went off near the military headquarters.
Page 28. "Iran's execution of killer breaks pact on child rights."
TEHERAN:

Iran has hanged a man for a murder committed when he was 15, in violation of an international convention on child rights, it was reported yesterday by a reformist newspaper,
Eternad. Reza Hejazi (20) had allegedly stabbed a man to death in 2003. Four rapists and drug traffickers also were hanged on Tuesday, bringing the number of Iranian executions to at least 172 this year.
Page 28. "We had to flog ourselves: teenager."
LONDON:

Two teenagers were forced to flog themselves until their backs bled in a Muslim ceremony to commemorate the death of a revered Shi'ite figure, Manchester Crown Court was told. One, 13 at the time, said that Syed Mustafa Zaido had forced him and a 15-year-old to flog themselves with a zanjeer zani, which has a wooden handle with chains and five blades attached.
[COMMENT: Self-flagellation, euphemistically called "the discipline," has been practised in CHRISTIAN monastic circles for centuries (copied from paganism). One ex-monk who saw the light in modern times wrote that the leading monks who ordered self-whipping were really practising sadistic abuse on the neophyte monks.
ENDS.]
Page 38. "Philippine rebel declares war."
MANILLA:

A Muslim rebel commander in the southern Philippines declared "all-out war"
against the Government yesterday. Abdurahman Macapaar, of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), said, "If they cannot finish us, we will finish them. We are prepared to kill; we are prepared to be killed."
On Monday the attacks on Christian towns left 38 dead.
The MILF has been waging a separatist rebellion since 1978.
"In the eyes of Allah we are not terrorists," he said.
The Government has offered a reward of 10 million pesos (Australian $251,000) for information leading to his arrest and that of Umbra Kato.
[COMMENT: Isn't over-population ONE of the causes of the attempts by Muslims to seize Christian villages and drive them out? And, could historians be brought in to work out if the Portuguese, Spanish and perhaps United States invaders had, in centuries past, driven Muslims out of these areas, or not? Or if MUSLIMS had driven non-Muslims out in THEIR "trading and raiding" expeditions?
ENDS.]
Page 38. "Pirates hit fourth ship in a month."
KUALA LUMPUR:

A Malaysian tanker carrying palm oil had been seized by pirates off Somalia. It was the fourth ship to be hijacked in the Gulf of Aden in a month. Previous ships had come from Thailand, Singapore, and Japan.
Page 40. "Arrests of MPs for graft add to Anwar's woes."
KUALA LUMPUR:

Two Malaysian State MsP from the opposition People's Justice Party led by Anwar Ibrahim were arrested yesterday for alleged bribery. One is also facing a sex charge.
Mr Anwar is fighting a sodomy charge. The one he was convicted on previously was overturned in 2004.
Page 40. "Iran's space test failed."
IRAN:

An Iranian missile test on August 16 to put a dummy satellite into orbit failed to get off the ground, according to a US spokesperson. Iran said it was a success.
Page 42. "Veil lifted in Egypt on sexual harassment."
CAIRO:

In Muslim Egypt the number of women wearing veils is rising, but so too are incidents of groping and catcalls in the streets. A new survey by the Egyptian Centre for Women's Rights says 98 per cent of foreign women surveyed, and 83 per cent of Egyptian women, said they had been sexually harassed. Two-thirds of Egyptian men surveyed admitted harassing women.
Women in the hijab were the most frequent targets. Last year two fully veiled Gulf Arab women were surrounded by dozens of men on a street and abused. It was filmed and put on YouTube.
Page 43. "French deaths blamed on 'friendly fire'."
PARIS:

The French army refused to comment yesterday on a report that French soldiers were hit by North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) planes that had come to help them escape from a Taliban ambush in Afghanistan, which left 10 French dead.
A report in
Le Monde said that the French call for help took four hours to arrive; the planes then sometimes hit the French, and so did Afghan soldiers sent in as back-up.
The French started serving in Afghanistan in 2002, and so far 24 have been killed.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#bombings_self_whippings
[KORAN:
5:59-60 (or 5:64-65):- O people of the Book! … some of them hath He changed into apes and swine
… .
Click: 7:166 (or 7:167).
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Muslim's collection, 41:6985:- … Allah's Messenger … saying The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree …
TRADITION ENDS.]
[Aug 21, 08]
[Blazing times in the Ummah: Followers of the All-Merciful.]
[Blazing times in the Ummah: Followers of The All-Merciful]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Friday, August 22, 2008
Page 24. "New bomb woe for Pakistan."
ISLAMABAD:

A double suicide bombing which killed at 57 people and wounded 70 outside Pakistan's biggest arms factory yesterday added pressure to the Government as it teetered near collapse.
The suicide bombers were at Wah, near Islamabad. The Taliban claimed responsibility, the second to rock Pakistan since President Musharraf resigned on Monday.
The Government said that more than 500 militants and about 39 soldiers had been killed in fighting in the north-western regions of Swat and Bajaur.
[COMMENT: Muslim murderers killing Muslim factory workers, Muslim loyalists killing Muslim separatists. ENDS.]
Page 29. "Iran ban on Hollywood-bound actress."
TEHRAN:

Iran has banned an award-winning actress, Golshifteh Farahani (25), who was about to go to Hollywood to examine a new offer.
Her latest film exposes Iranian society's drug problems, which affect about two million.
In another field, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said yesterday that Israel was a "germ of corruption that will be removed soon."
Last week Vice-President Esfandiar Rahim Mashai had said that Iranians were "friends of all people in the world, even Israelis."
Page 29. "Philippine Muslim peace deal back to start."
MANILLA:

The Philippine Government has scrapped its controversial peace deal with the country's Muslim minority after two weeks of deadly clashes in the south, and doubts that it was constitutional. The pact had called for a Muslim autonomous homeland in southern Mindanao island.
The Supreme Court has banned it, and crowds of up to 15,000 people in Mindanao cities had said it was a "sell-out".
Two rebel MILF commanders had renewed killing of Christians, looting, and burning. The fighting has made more than 100,000 people homeless.
Page 30. "Family men just as likely to be terrorists: MI5."
LONDON:

British terrorists are just as likely to be married with children and have little religious background, rather than just fundamentalist loners, a leaked MI5 document has concluded.
The study also played down the role of fundamentalist clerics.
[COMMENT: That ordinary family-type and settled-in Muslims can catch the death culture has been known for years, as some Mohammedan rulers in history found out fatally over the centuries. Look up "Assassin sect." In our own day, Lawrence Wright's 2006 book The Looming Tower tells us many jihad fighters going to Afghanistan were tertiary-educated living in comfortable circumstances in the West (p 301). Will MI5 ever wake up that the madrassas which trained the mujahadeen and jihadists for Afghanistan, who turned into Al-Qaeda, had been partly paid for by Britain, the United States, Saudi Arabia, and "charitable" collections? If so, will MI5 campaign against the West paying to train terrorists and other dissidents in violence? Or were MI5 and/or MI6 responsible for it?
ENDS.]
Page 30. "Buses bombed."

TURKEY: A car bomb was set off in the city of Izmir in western Turkey as two minibuses of police and soldiers passed, injuring 16. The port city has a big Kurdish population.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#blazing_times_in_the
[Aug 22, 08]
Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque.
Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
The Guardian (Britain),
http://www. guardian. co.uk/ media/ 2008/aug/ 22/channel4. islam? gusrc=rss& feed= uknews ,
by Tara Conlan, 07:19 BST, Friday August 22, 2008
Undercover Mosque: last year's critically acclaimed programme which West Midlands police referred to media regulator Ofcom. Photograph: Channel 4
Three months after Dispatches: Undercover Mosque won a police apology and libel damages, Channel 4 has announced it is returning to the subject in Undercover Mosque: The Return.
Earlier this year West Midlands police and the Crown Prosecution Service paid out a six-figure sum to Channel 4 and Undercover Mosque Hardcash, the independent producer responsible for the documentary, after falsely accusing the programme of misleading viewers.
The documentary, an undercover investigation into extremism in mainstream British mosques, featured preachers calling for homosexuals to be killed, espousing male supremacy, condemning non-Muslims and predicting jihad.
Last August, West Midlands police referred the critically acclaimed programme to media regulator Ofcom and, in conjunction with the CPS, issued a statement saying the words of three preachers featured had been "heavily edited" so their meaning was "completely distorted".
However, Ofcom cleared Channel 4 and Hardcash of any TV fakery and ruled they "dealt with the subject matter responsibly and in context".
The two companies subsequently launched their libel action.
It has now emerged that the same Hardcash production team have revisited the subject to "see whether extremist beliefs continue to be promoted in certain key British Muslim institutions".
In the new documentary, a female reporter attends prayer meetings at an important British mosque which claims to be dedicated to moderation and "dialogue with other faiths".
According to Channel 4, "she secretly films sermons given to the women-only congregation in which female preachers recite extremist and intolerant beliefs".
In one scene, as hundreds of women and some children come to pray, a preacher calls for adulterers, homosexuals, women who act like men and Muslim converts to other faiths to be killed, saying: "Kill him, kill him. You have to kill him, you understand. This is Islam."
Channel 4 also said that in the same mosque, "the reporter visits the bookshop and discovers books and DVDs still on sale, promoting extremist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic and intolerant messages".
The undercover reporter also "films inside a key Saudi-funded Muslim organisation, which claims to promote tolerance and integration yet distributes literature which promotes intolerance for non-Muslims, an extreme version of sharia law and teachings which support discrimination against women".
In addition, Undercover Mosque: The Return also "investigates the role of the Saudi Arabian religious establishment in spreading a hard-line, fundamentalist Islamic ideology in the UK - the very ideology the government claims to be tackling".
A former Foreign Office minister tells Dispatches he thinks the government should take a stronger line on the issue.
The film also includes interviews with Islamic academics who condemn messages of intolerance and segregation and warn of the impact they will have on British society.
Dispatches: Undercover Mosque: The Return will air on Channel 4 on September 1 at 8pm.
Ā· To contact the MediaGuardian news desk email editor@mediaguardian.co.uk or phone 020 7239 9857. For all other inquiries please call the main Guardian switchboard on 020 7278 2332.
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[RECAPITULATION: In one scene, as hundreds of women and some children come to pray, a preacher calls for adulterers, homosexuals, women who act like men and Muslim converts to other faiths to be killed, saying: "Kill him, kill him. You have to kill him, you understand. This is Islam."
ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
48:16:- … Ye shall do battle with
them, or they shall profess Islam. …
48:18-19:- … Allah … the
believers … He … rewarded them with a speedy victory, and with the rich booty which they took …
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/048. qmt.html #048.018 >
48:29:- … those who follow Him are tender to one another, but ruthless to unbelievers. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Bukhari's, Vol. 2, Bk. 19, No. 173:-
[…] Later on, I saw him killed as a non-believer.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/funda mentals/hadith sunnah/bukhari/ 019.sbt.html# 002.019.173 >
Bukhari's 9, 84:57:- … Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.
Click: Sahih Muslim's collection, regarding stoning to death (men and women):- 17, 4191-4216;
20, 4483
TRADITION ENDS.]
[NEWSITEMS AND COMMENTS:
The Guardian (Britain), "Police rapped for Undercover Mosque complaint," by John Plunkett, guardian.co.uk, Monday, November 19, 2007
National Secular Society, "Makers of Undercover Mosque to sue West Midlands Police," February 29, 2008: http://www. secularism. org.uk/ makersof iundercover mosque itosuew. html .
Press Gazette (UK), "Undercover Mosque producers lost work in fallout from police probe,"By Sarah Limbrick, April 2, 2008:
The Daily Mail (England),
"Police pay Channel 4 £100,000 damages for accusing station of faking undercover mosque footage," By LAURA ROBERTS, Last updated at 21:35, May 14, 2008: http://www. dailymail. co.uk/ tvshowbiz/ article- 566438/ Police-pay- Channel-4- 100-000- damages- accusing- station- faking- undercover -mosque- footage.html .
Lapido Media Blog, "Undercover mosque: How did police get it so wrong?" A CULTURE OF DENIAL, By Jenny Taylor, May 28, 2008:
http://blog. lapidomedia. com/2008/05/28/ undercover- mosque-how- did-police- get-it- so-wrong/ .
RichardDawkins.net ; "C4 returns to Undercover Mosque - they are worse than ever." Sat Aug 23, 2008, http:// richard dawkins. net/forum/ viewtopic. php?f=17&p= 1242021 . (Dawkins wrote The God Delusion.
ENDS.]
[LOOK BACK: "Undercover Mosques: The Transcripts."
Monday, January 15, 2007: http:// mpacuk.org/ content/ view/ 3266/34/ .
Or read a summary at: http://www. channel4. com/news/ articles/ dispatches/ undercover+ mosque/ 158390 . ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: ReligionNewsBlog, August 24, 2008. ENDS.]
[MARK DIARY: "Dispatches: Undercover Mosque: The Return" will air on Channel 4 on September 1 at 8pm.
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#channel_4_announces
[August 22, 2008]
Free-speech trap.
Free-speech trap
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor, p 23, Saturday, August 23, 2008
As a Muslim, I condemn any hate propaganda or any act of terrorism. I am concerned, however, that the Australian Government may fall into the trap of banning or managing free speech, a tool of extremists (Bid to halt anti-Semitic channel, 21/8).
Instead, the Australian Government should broadcast into Indonesia a more compelling message of peace and understanding. Without an alternative message, propaganda can be dangerous, so, yes, it must be taken seriously. Free speech is a necessary pillar of a liberal society and compromising it will hand the extremists a great propaganda victory.
Al-Manar is hoping for a knee-jerk response from the Australian Government so it can accuse us of hypocrisy. Extremists
know how to tap into Muslim dogma, not necessarily the true teachings of Islam, and press the right buttons to stir things up. As a counter measure, we must apply pressure to the points that soothe.
We have to be strategic in our approach when dealing with extremists. We also have to be strategic in developing relationships with the millions of individual Muslims within Indonesia. A factual, non-judgmental Australian counter broadcast will help achieve this. Australia has more than sufficient credibility to position itself to fight extremism of all sorts and if we attain respect for free speech from others, that itself will be a major blow to extremism.
Azman Arshad, Iluka.
[RECAPITULATION: As a Muslim, I condemn any hate propaganda or any act of terrorism. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: That's two "porky pies," or he doesn't believe these texts!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
5:59-60 (or 5:64-65):- O people of the Book! … some of them hath He changed into apes and swine …
5:80 (or 5:83):- You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.
8:12:- … I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
< www.submission. org/suras/ sura8.html #12 >.
33:60:- If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbours in it but for a little while.
66:2:- Allah hath allowed you release from your oaths. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Muslim's, Book 37, Number 6670:-
Ibn Shihab reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made an expedition to Tabuk and he (the Holy Prophet) had in his mind (the idea of threatening the) Christians of Arabia in Syria and those of Rome. [***]
Sahih Muslim's, 41:6985:- … Allah's Messenger … saying The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree …
Click: Sunan Abu-Dawud's, Book 19, Number 2996;
Malik's Muwatta, Book 45, Number 45.5.19;
Muwatta, Book 53, Number 53.2.3.
TRADITION ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#free_speech_trap
[Aug 23, 08]
"[Coalition kills Afghan families; activists' boats; 8-y-os 'married'.]
"[Coalition kills Afghan families; activists’ boats; 8-y-os ‘married’.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Monday, August 25, 2008
Page 27. "Afghan raid had big civilian toll." [Airstrip security family homes hit.]
KABUL:

An Afghan Government investigation has reported that more than 90 civilians, mostly women and children, had been killed in coalition air strikes on Friday. The US-led coalition said only 30 militants had died. Local people demonstrated on Saturday, setting fire to police vehicles and brandishing banners reading "Death to America." Many of the 15 houses destroyed were of men who worked at the nearly Shindand airstrip as security guards.
Page 27. "Activists' boats break Gaza blockade."
GAZA CITY:

Two boats carrying 44 international activists were welcomed by thousands as they landed on the Gaza Strip at the weekend, defying an Israeli blockade. The boats from Cyprus had activists of the Free Gaza Movement (US-based) from 17 countries, including Israel. [With picture.]
Page 27. "Divorce sought for eight-year-old Saudi schoolgirl." [Yemen 8-y-o divorced previously.]
RIYADH:

A Saudi court would hear next month a plea for divorce from an 8-y-o girl married off to a man in his fifties, who says he has done nothing wrong. The girl had not been told she had been married off, according to
Al-Watan. The father had arranged the marriage, but other relatives had sought relief. In Yemen in April, a girl (8) had been divorced after her unemployed father had forced her to marry a man (28).
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#coalition_kills_afghan
[HADITH:
Vol. 5, Bk. 58, No. 236 (Sahih Bukhari's collection): Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Āisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed [[? consummated]] that marriage when she was nine years old.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/058. sbt.html#005. 058.236 >
[[Also read 5, 58: 234]]
TRADITION ENDS.]
[Aug 25, 08]
New Evidence of Extremism Unearthed at UK Mosques.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#new_evidence_of_extremism
[Aug 28, 08]
[Self-floggings, sackings, executions, go on.]
[Self-floggings, sackings, executions, go on.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Friday, August 29, 2008
Page 5. "Islami art expert is new boss at State gallery."

by Stephen Bevis, arts editor.
PERTH (W. Australia): The State Government has appointed an expert in Islamic art, Italian-born Mr Stefano Carboni, to be the new director of the Art Gallery of WA. Dr Carboni is a senior curator from New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art, and has an Australian-born wife plus two children.
Page 28. "Man found guilty of cruelty in UK Muslim ritual."
MANCHESTER (England):

A man who forced two boys to beat themselves with a blade-tipped flail as part of a Muslim religious ritual has been convicted of child cruelty.
Prosecutors said it was the first time anyone in England had been taken to court of making children take part in the self-flagellation some Shi’ites use to mak Ashoura, which commemorates the 7th-cenutry death of Imam Hussein.
Syed Mustafa Zaidi, 44, forced the boys, aged 13 and 15, to flog themselves at a community centre in the city of Manchester on January 19, leaving lacerations on their backs – mainly superficial but with some deeper
cuts. #
[LOOK BACK: "We had to flog ourselves: teenager," August 21, 2008]
Page 32. "Disabled siblings hidden for 40 years."

RAMALLAH: A Palestinian couple locked their disabled son and daughter in two stinking, urine-stained rooms for four decades, because of fears the pair would ruin the marriage prospects of a healthy child, if their condition became known to others in Palestinian society.
They had found Basam Musalmeh (38) naked while his sister Nawal (42) wore a flimsy nightdress, Palestinian police commander Samih Saify said. Their father, Ibraham, was arrested.
He wife was his first cousin, and five other children were also disabled and had died in childhood. Arab communities often favour marriages between first cousins, and their leaders do not consider it is incest nor that they should be aware it increases the chances disabled progeny.
Page 32. "Hamas purges education system of Fatah as it breaks teacher strike."

GAZA STRIP: The militant Islamic group Hamas that rules the Gaza Strip has replaced hundreds of striking teachers who belong to the rival Fatah movement with its own supporters. The strike and this move has disrupted the schools at the start of the academic year. The Fatah-led teachers' union had called its strike because of the transfers of dozens of teachers to new schools.
The Fatah-dominated Government in the West Bank pays teachers' salaries and it is seizing on the strike as a loyalty test. Union leader Bassam Zakarneh said that the Government would sack teachers who accepted promotions, because that would indicate loyalty to Hamas.
[COMMENT: Two extremist groups quarrelling over the "scraps," while failing to concentrate on productive employment. ENDS.]
Page 38. "Anwar walks out after comeback."

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim was sworn in to Parliament yesterday, only to stage a dramatic walkout hours later in a rown over controversial DNA sampling legislation. He had won his seat by a landslide this week. He said the new sodomy charges were concocted by the Government. After six years in prison on a previous such charge, the conviction was overturned in 2004.
Page 38. "Killers executed."

IRAN: Iran has hanged a woman and four men for murder at Tehran, bringing the number of the country's executions to 180 this year.
Page 38. "Vigilantes warn of killings."

PHILIPPINES: A Christian vigilante group has warned that it will execute 10 Muslim militants for every civilian killed in religious strife. On Mindanao island the government troops after weeks of fighting have taken a Muslim rebel stronghold, Camp Bilal, after weeks of fighting.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#self_floggings_sackings
[COMMENT: It's a murderous culture, evidently.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[Aug 29, 08]
Rejecting The Profession Of Death.
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
by Paul Stenhouse, pp 4-7, August 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 4-7 AUGUST 2008
EDITORIAL
An appeal for dialogue and openness
REJECTING THE PROFESSION OF DEATH
By Paul Stenhouse, MSC, Ph.D
WHILE some English scholars argue that Shakespeare 'didn't write Shakespeare's plays, some Arabic scholars question whether a poem written by the Jewish poet of Medina, al-Rabi‘ibn Abi al-Huqaiq, was actually written by him. There are sound reasons for thinking that it wasn't, and that it forms part of a significant anti-Jewish
corpus of literature of the first century after Muhammad's death. But that is another story.
The poet laments the foolishness of his people who would not have been exiled and massacred if they had not {allegedly} broken faith with Muhammad:
' … but they followed Satan
and the People of Blood stung home like vipers.
The fool destroyed the counsel of the wise and the cause was irreparably lost.'
The source of the poem is Abu 1-Zinad.
1 What is to be noted is the un-selfconscious way the Jewish poet describes the Muslims {or, the Muslims describe themselves} as 'People of Blood'.
The expression calls to mind a saying of Muhammad's about the Jihad recorded by Aisha, his favourite wife. It is to be found in the
Book of Fear and Hope, the fourth book of his
The Revival of Religious Sciences, written around 1096 AD in Damascus by Abu Hamid Muhammad {1058-1111 AD}, known to posterity as Al-Ghazali. … Aisha recorded Muhammad as saying: 'There is no drop more beloved of God than … a drop of blood which is shed in the Path of God'
2
In a
hadith - an alleged saying of Muhammad - quoted by nineteenth century Arabist Edward Lane, we learn that 'the gift of the believer is death'.
3
Another
hadith is attributed to Salamah ibn
al-Akwa’ who says: 'The Apostle of God {peace be upon him} appointed Abu Bakr our commander and we fought with some people who were polytheists. We attacked them at night, killing them. Our war-cry that night was "Put to death; put to death". Salamah then said, 'I killed that night with my own hand polytheists belonging to seven houses'.
4
Death also has been the gift Islam has brought to uncountable millions of largely uncomprehending non-Muslims whose independence, property and families stood in the way of burgeoning Islamic wealth and power, giving the lie to naive claims that it is 'contrary to Islam to sow in stolen soil'.
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Not Helpful
AN EDICT from Saudi Arabia circulating among Muslims in Australia said that Muslims should not greet anyone with 'Merry Christmas' and must not return the greeting to anyone who offers it.
The edict {or fatwa} also said that Muslims must not
* offer or accept any food or drink linked with the celebration of Christmas;
* send greeting cards for, or import or sell anything related to Christmas;
* put up Christmas lights or keep Christmas trees or have any signs relating to the Christmas season.
– Cameron Stewart, The Australian, December 24, 2003.
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'If the Arabs were not altogether
convinced bv these torrents of
blood that the religion preached
by Mohammed was true, they at
any rate recognised in Islamism
an irresistible, and to some extent
a supernatural, power. Decimated
by the sword, overwhelmed with
terror and amazement, they resigned
themselves to becoming Moslems-at
least ostensibly; and the Khalif, that
they might have no time to recover
from their dismay, forthwith hurled
them against the Roman Empire and
Persia – two nations ripe for conquest,
because for many years rent by
intestine [? internecine] discord, enervated by
slavery, and cankered by all the vices
of decadence. Boundless wealth and
vast domains compensated the Arabs
for their submission to the Law of
the Prophet of Mecca. Apostasy was
unknown, it was unthinkable, it meant
death – upon this point the law of
Mohammed is inexorable – but sincere
piety and zeal for the faith were almost
equally rare. By the most horrible
and atrocious means the outward
conversion of the Bedawin had been
effected; that was much; it was indeed
all that could fairly be looked for on
the part of these unfortunate people,
who had witnessed the death of their
fathers, brothers, and children beneath
the sword of Khalid or the other pious
executioners who were his rivals.' 6
The famous ‘Umayyad governor
of Arabia, Al-Hajjaj, a schoolmaster
from al-Taif in al-Hijaz who decided
the sword was mightier than the pen,
became Governor of Iraq in 694 AD. He
is said to have arrived in the mosque of
al-Kufah accompanied only by twelve
riders on camels, with his face covered
by a red silk turban. He went into the
pulpit, uncovered his face and delivered
to a hostile mob what is regarded as the
most famous of all ‘Umayyad orations.
In his opening words he said
'– I see heads ripe and ready for harvest; and blood ready to flow between turbans and beards'. 7
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by Robert Spencer, pp 21-27, August 2008
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Political
Correctness
Familiar Myths part of the Arsenal of Modern-Day Muslim Polemicists
ISLAMISTS REWRITE HISTORY
By Robert Spencer
O N Christmas Eve, the
Guardian published an odd commentary piece by Ajmal Masroor, the director of Communities in Action. It was odd because Masroor was openly proselytizing for Islam, wondering why former British Prime Minister Tony Blair didn't convert to Islam rather than to Catholicism. One doesn't usually see such open proselytizing in a major newspaper. In any case, in the course of his piece Masroor said this:
According to Blair, Islam "extols science and knowledge and abhors superstition". I agree, but why has he embraced Catholicism with its history of hostility towards science and is embedded with superstition? [sic]
Why indeed? I can't and won't speak for Blair, but the idea that Islam extols science while Christianity is hostile to it is historically and conceptually false. And it's an important question, not only for science, but also for the defence of the West in general against the civilizational challenge posed by the Islamic jihadists. In my book
Religion of Peace?, therefore, I discuss it in detail, beginning with an explanation of the importance of the question from none other than Friedrich Nietzche, who once noted that "there is no such thing as science 'without any presuppositions.'– a philosophy, a 'faith,' must always be there first, so that science can acquire from it a direction, a. meaning, a limit, a method, a right to exist."
It may be jarring to those who are accustomed to believing that faith and reason are perpetually at odds with each other, and that religion is an eternal enemy to science, but it is nevertheless a matter of historical fact that modern science has derived a great deal of its direction, meaning, limit, method, and right to exist from Christianity. It is likewise true, and probably just
as jarring to those who assume that all religions are essentially identical in character, that Islam has not provided, either historically or in the present day, the same kind of impetus to its development.
At Regensburg, Pope Benedict XVI observed that "for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality." The one hundred Muslim authorities who wrote an Open Letter to the Pope replied that "To say that for Muslims 'God's Will is not bound up in any of our categories' is also a simplification which may lead to a misunderstanding. God has many Names in Islam, including the Merciful, the Just, the Seeing, the Hearing, the Knowing, the Loving, and the Gentle. …
As this concerns His Will, to conclude that Muslims believe in a capricious God who might or might not command us to evil is to forget that God says in the Qur'an, Lo! God enjoins justice and kindness, and giving to kinsfolk, and forbids lewdness and abomination and wickedness. He exhorts you in order that ye may take heed (al-Nahl, 16:90).
Equally, it is to forget that God says in the Qur'an that He has prescribed for Himself mercy (al-An'am, 6:12; see also 6:54), and that God says in the Qur'an, My Mercy encompasses everything (al-A'raf 7:156). The word for mercy, rahmah, can also be translated as love, kindness, and compassion. From this word rahmah comes the sacred formula Muslims use daily, In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Is it not self-evident that spilling innocent blood goes against mercy and compassion?"
Fair enough, although we have often seen the limitations within an Islamic context of condemning the spilling of "innocent blood": who is innocent? Under what circumstances? But aside from that, the authors of the Open Letter
seem to be contradicting the Pope's point about the Islamic view of God, but they do not actually do so. In attempting to refute the idea that Islam envisions "a capricious God who might or might not command us to evil," the writers offer a number of Qur'an quotes that assert that "God enjoins justice and kindness," and is merciful and compassionate.
Yet in noting that in Islam, Allah's "will is not bound up with any of our categories" and quoting Ibn Hazm saying "Were it God's will, we would even have to practise idolatry," the Pope was not so much saying that in the Islamic view Allah would command his people to do evil, but that he might change the content of the concepts of good and evil. In other words, Allah would always enjoin "justice and kindness," but what constitutes "justice and kindness," just as what constitutes "innocent blood," might change.
This idea has extraordinarily important implications for the development of science. There is an odd passage in the Qur'an that sums up this perspective, and how it differs from the Judeo-Christian view of God: "The Jews say: Allah's hand is fettered. Their hands are fettered and they are accursed for saying so." (5:64). The Jews, in their wickedness, claimed that "Allah's hand is fettered," but in fact Allah's hand is not fettered.
It is unclear what Jewish concept the Qur'an is referring to in this case, but the indignant response to it is clear: Allah's hand being unfettered is a vivid image of divine freedom. Such a God can be bound by no laws. Muslim theologians argued during the long controversy with the Mu'tazilite sect, which exalted human reason beyond the point that the eventual victors were willing to tolerate, that Allah was free to act as he pleased. He was thus not bound to govern the universe according to consistent and observable laws. "He
cannot be questioned concerning what He does" (Quran 21:23).
Accordingly, there was no point to observing the workings of the physical world; there was no reason to expect that any pattern to its workings would be consistent, or even discernible. If Allah could not be counted on to be consistent, why waste time observing the order of things? It could change tomorrow.
Stanley Jaki, a Catholic priest and physicist, explains that it was al-Ghazali, the philosopher that the authors of the Open Letter recommend to the Pope, who "denounced natural laws, the very objective of science, as a blasphemous constraint upon the free will of Allah." He adds that "Muslim mystics decried the notion of scientific law (as formulated by Aristotle) as blasphemous and irrational, depriving as it does the Creator of his freedom."
Social scientist Rodney Stark adds that "it would seem that Islam has a conception of God appropriate to underwrite the rise of science. Not so. Allah is not presented as a lawful creator but is conceived of as an extremely active God who intrudes in the world as he deems it appropriate. This prompted the formation of a major theological bloc within Islam that condemns all efforts to formulate natural laws as blasphemy in that they deny Allah's freedom to act."
The great Jewish philosopher Moses Maimonides (1135-1204) explained orthodox Islamic cosmology in these terms:
Human intellect does not perceive any reason why a body should be in a certain place instead of being in another. In the same manner they say that reason admits the possibility that an existing being should be larger or smaller than it really is, or that it should be different in form and position from what it really is; e.g., a man might have the height of a mountain, might have several heads, and fly in the air; or an elephant might be as small as an insect, or an insect as huge as an elephant.
This method of admitting possibilities is applied to the whole Universe. Whenever they affirm that a thing belongs to this class of admitted possibilities, they say that it can have this form and that it is also possible that it be found differently, and that the one form is not more possible than the other; but they do not ask whether the reality confirms their assumption.
Conquest by Stealth
D ESPITE its size, worldwide presence, and tremendous importance, Tablighi Jamaat remains largely unknown outside the Muslim community, even to many scholars of Islam. This is no coincidence. Tablighi Jamaat officials work to remain outside of both media and governmental notice. Tablighi Jamaat neither has formal organizational structure nor does it publish details about the scope of its activities, its membership, or its finances. By eschewing open discussion of politics and portraying itself only as a pietistic movement, Tablighi Jamaat works to project a non-threatening image.
– Alex Alexiev, Tablighi Jamaat: Jihad's
Stealthy Legions,' Middle East Quarterly, Winter 2005.
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They say that the thing which exists with certain constant and permanent forms, dimensions, and properties, only follows the direction of habit, just as the king generally rides on horseback through the streets of the city, and is never found departing from this habit; but reason does not find it impossible that he should walk on foot through the place: there is no doubt that he may do so, and this possibility is fully admitted by die intellect.
Similarly, earth moves towards the centre, fire turns away from the centre; fire causes heat, water causes cold, in accordance with a certain habit; but it is logically not impossible that a deviation from this habit should
occur, namely, that fire should cause cold, move downward, and still be fire; that the water should cause heat, move upward, and still be water. On this foundation their whole fabric is constructed.
This odd theory was derived entirely
from the Islamic conviction of the
absolute sovereignty of Allah. Relatively
early in its history, therefore, science
was deprived in the Islamic world of
the philosophical foundation it needed
in order to flourish. Consequently, Jaki
observes, "the improvements brought
by Muslim scientists to the Greek
scientific corpus were never substantial."
The consequences of this have been far-reaching. Jaki details some of them:
More than two hundred years after the construction of the famed Blue Mosque, W. Eton, for many years a resident in Turkey and Russia, found that Turkish architects still could not calculate the lateral pressures of curves. Nor could they understand why the catenary curve, so useful in building ships, could also be useful in drawing blueprints for cupolas.
The reign of Suleiman the Magnificent may be memorable for its wealth of gorgeously illustrated manuscripts and princely paraphernalia, but for no items worth mentioning from the viewpoint of science and technology.
At the Battle of Lepanto the Turkish navy lacked improvements long in use on French and Italian vessels. Two hundred years later, Turkish artillery was primitive by Western standards. Worse, while in Western Europe the dangers of the use of lead had for some time been clearly realized, lead was still a heavy ingredient in kitchenware used in Turkish lands.
Those technological differences were decisive at the Battle of Lepanto, which took place on October 7, 1571. The Holy League, comprised of the Papal States, the Republic of Venice, Spain, Genoa, and others, defeated the Ottoman Turks in a decisive sea battle that significantly diminished the jihadists' chances to subdue all of Europe at that time. Stark explains: "The European galleys not only had far more and far better cannons than did the Turks but they no longer had their forward fire zone blocked by a high ramming beak -- since they meant to blow the Turks out of the water, not ram into them. Firing powerful forward volleys, the Europeans annihilated Ottoman galleys while still rowing toward them; the Turks had to stop and turn sideways to fire, presenting much larger targets."
In contrast to the dogmatic stagnation of the Islamic world, science was able to flourish in Christian Europe during the same period because Christian scientists were working from assumptions derived from the Bible, which were very different from those that Muslims derived from the Qur'an. In the Old Testament, says Jaki, "the faithfulness of the God of history is supported not only with a reference to another saving intervention of God into human affairs, but very often also by a pointed and
detailed reference to the faithfulness of the regular working and permanence of a nature created by God." For example, God refers to the regularity of day and night to emphasize the permanence of his covenant with the Israelites, telling the prophet Jeremiah: "If you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so that day and night will not come at their appointed time, then also my covenant with David my servant may be broken, so that he shall not have a son to reign on his throne… " (Jeremiah 33:20-21).
The Psalmist speaks of God having "fixed all the bounds of the earth" (Psalm 74:17), and of his word as fixed as well: "For ever, O LORD, thy word is firmly fixed in the heavens" (Psalm 119:89). In these and many other similar passages, there is a strong sense of the stability of creation - a sine qua non of scientific investigation.
Of course, the Qur'an contains similar affirmations: "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all" (6:115). However, even in the Qur'an itself Allah says that he does sometimes change his words: "None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?" (2:106).
If Allah's "power over all things" extended to the ability to replace his own words with something "better or similar" but in any case contradictory, since otherwise the replacement wouldn't be necessary, then Muslims would find it difficult to accept the Jewish and Christian understanding that that God created the universe according to reliably observable laws, and, whether or not he is bound to do so, freely chose to uphold the laws that he created. "Islam," 'notes Stark, "did not fully embrace the notion that the universe ran along on fundamental principles laid down by God at the creation but assumed that the world was sustained by his will on a continuing basis."
However, the idea that the universe did run "on fundamental principles laid down by God at the creation" gave a major impetus to the rise of modern science in Christian Europe. Christian mathematicians and astronomers knew
that their investigations would lead to knowledge of the truth, because they believed that God had established the universe according to certain laws – laws that could be discovered through observation and study. St. Thomas Aquinas even goes so far as to assert that "since the principles of certain sciences – ; of logic, geometry, and arithmetic, for instance – ; are derived exclusively from the formal principals of things, upon which their essence depends,
it follows that God cannot make the contraries of these principles; He cannot make the genus not to be predicable of the species, nor lines drawn from a circle's centre to its circumference not to be equal, nor the three angles of a rectilinear triangle not to be equal to two right angles."
This is a far cry from Maimonides' depiction of Muslim philosophers envisioning elephants becoming snakes and fire turning cool. And to be sure,
to a pious Muslim of Aquinas's day the idea that God could not do anything would have appeared as the highest form of blasphemy. It would have been equivalent to saying that "Allah's hand is fettered." But Christians did not consider it blasphemous in the least. "The rise of science," Stark explains, "was not an extension of classical learning. It was the natural outgrowth of Christian doctrine: nature exists because it was created by God. In order to love and honor God, it necessary to fully appreciate the wonders of his handiwork. Because God is perfect, that handiwork functions in accord with immutable principles. By the full use of our God-given powers of reason and observation, it ought to be possible to discover those principles."
The importance of this cannot be overemphasized. Stark concludes: "These were the crucial ideas that explain why science arose in Christian Europe and nowhere else."
Now wait a minute. Didn't modern science originate in the Islamic world?
If you have received a modern education in a Western country, you may find Stark's statement implausible. After all, didn't modern science begin in the Islamic world? Didn't Muslims invent algebra, the astrolabe, and the zero? Didn't Muslims preserve the classics of ancient Greek philosophy while Europe was blinded to their value by a narrow Christian dogmatism? Weren't the great Islamic empires of the past the bright lights of civilization, while Christian Europe was comparatively barbaric and primitive?
"For while [the Caliphs] al-Rashid [786-809] and al-Mamun [813-833] were delving into Greek and Persian philosophy," according to historian Philip K. Hitti, "their contemporaries in the West, Charlemagne and his lords, were reportedly dabbling in the art of writing their names. … No people in the early Middle Ages contributed to human progress as much as did the Arabs."
In fact, much of this has been exaggerated in regard to both Islam and Europe, often for quite transparent apologetic motives. The astrolabe was developed, if not perfected, long before Muhammad was born. The zero, which is often attributed to Muslims, and what we know today as "Arabic numerals" did not originate in Arabia, but in pre-Islamic India.
Aristotle's work was preserved in Arabic not initially by Muslims at all, but by Christians such as the fifth century priest Probus of Antioch, who introduced Aristotle to the Arabic-speaking world. Another Christian, Huneyn ibn-Ishaq (809-873), translated many works by Aristotle, Galen, Plato and Hippocrates into Syriac. His son then translated them into Arabic.
The Syrian Christian Yahya ibn 'Adi (893-974) also translated works of philosophy into Arabic, and wrote one of his own, The Reformation of Morals. His student, another Christian named Abu 'Ali 'Isa ibn Zur'a (943-1008), also translated Aristotle and others from Syriac into Arabic.
The first Arabic-language medical treatise was written by a Christian priest and translated into Arabic by a Jewish doctor in 683. The first hospital was founded in Baghdad during the Abbasid caliphate – not by a Muslim, but a Nestorian Christian. A pioneering medical school was founded at Gundeshapur in Persia - by Assyrian Christians.
In sum, there was a time when it was indeed true that Islamic culture was more advanced than that of Europeans, but that superiority corresponds exactly to the period when Muslims were able to draw on and advance the achievements of Byzantine and other civilizations. But when the Muslim overlords had taken what they could from their subject peoples, and the Jewish and Christian communities had been stripped of their material and intellectual wealth and thoroughly subdued, Islam went into a period of intellectual decline from which it has not yet recovered.
Certainly Muslims have innovated at high levels. Civilized people owe a debt to Muslim believers such as Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi (780-850), whose pioneering treatise on algebra, Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah, gave algebra its name and enjoyed wide influence in Europe. (Al-Khwarizmi, of course, was following in the pioneering footsteps of Diophantus of Alexandria, who died late in the third Christian century.) Abu Raihan al-Biruni (973-1048) did groundbreaking work on calculating longitude and latitude.
The Caliph Harun al-Rashid's son Abu Jafar al-Ma'mun (786-833), who became caliph in 813, established professional standards for physicians and pharmacists. Abu Bakr al-Razi, or Rhazes (865-925), wrote lengthy treatises on medicine and alchemy that influenced the development of medical science and chemistry in medieval Europe. The famous Muslim philosopher Avicenna (Ibn Sina, 980-1037) wrote a medical textbook that was pre-eminent among European doctors for five centuries, until the 1600s.
The prolific scholar Abu 'Uthman 'Amr ibn Bahr al-Jahiz (776-868) wrote over two hundred books on a multitude of subjects: from politics (The Institution of the Caliphate) and zoology (the seven-volume Book of Animals) to cuisine (Arab Food), and day-to-day living (Sobriety and Mirth; The Art of Keeping One's Mouth Shut.) The mathematician Abu Ali al-Hasan ibn al-Haytham (965-1039) did early and influential work in optics.
However, Stark points out that "Islamic scholars achieved significant
progress only in terms of specific knowledge, such as certain aspects of astronomy and medicine, which did not require any general theoretical basis. And as time passed, even this sort of progress ceased."
"1001 Inventions" describes itself as "a unique UK based educational project that reveals the rich heritage that the Muslim community share with other communities in the UK and Europe." It says that it is "a non-religious and non-political project seeking to allow the positive aspects of progress in science and technology to act as a bridge in understanding the interdependence of communities throughout human history" - and it does this by highlighting 1001 inventions that Muslims are supposed to have brought to the world.
This exhibit is designed for maximum popular appeal: "1001 Inventions consists of a UK-wide travelling exhibition, a colourful easy to read book, a dedicated website and a themed collection of educational posters complementing a secondary school teachers' pack." It invites participants to "Discover Muslim Heritage in our World in seven conveniently organised zones: home, school, market, hospital, town, world and universe."
Many of these 1001 inventions involve things on the order of "the world's first soft drink," and the perspective of this enterprise's organizers comes clear from a section they include detailing astronomical revelations that can be found in the Qur'an. In a manner reminiscent of Khruschev-era Soviet propaganda about everything from baseball to zoology [? words missing] to Russians, it frequently asserts that innovations and discoveries usually attributed to Westerners actually originated in the Islamic world.
"Abbas ibn Firnas," we're told, "was the first person to make a real attempt to construct a flying machine and fly. His first flight took place in 852 in Cordoba when he wrapped himself in a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts and jumped from the minaret of the Great Mosque of Cordoba. Though this attempt was unsuccessful, he continued working on improving his design."
And a bit more seriously, "the Polish scholar and inventor Copernicus is credited as the founder of modern astronomy. Historians have recently established that most of his theories were based on those of Nasir al-Din
al-Tusi and Ibn Shatir. Ibn al-Shatir's planetary theory and models are exactly mathematically identical to those prepared by Copernicus over a century after him, which raised the issue of how Copernicus acquired such elements of information. The line of transmission lies in Italy where Greek and Latin materials that made use of al-Tusi's device were circulating in Italy at about the time Copernicus studied there."
Such assertions only highlight the discomfiture of those who make them. For if Muslims really did make innovations in aerodynamics, astronomy, and other fields long before Europeans did, what happened then? Why were the Europeans the ones who made use of these discoveries for technological advancement?
Even if Copernicus (who came from a devout Catholic family and may have been a priest himself) was influenced by Ibn al-Shatir, which is not universally accepted, why didn't Muslims make use of the insights of Ibn al-Shatir the way Copernicus did? Ibn al-Shatir died in 1375, just under a hundred years before Copernicus was born in 1473. Yet in that century, and in the centuries thereafter, Islamic astronomers did nothing significant with their coreligionist's discoveries.
If Islam contained the seeds of the high level of cultural attainment that the Islamic world enjoyed at its apex, why has it been unable to reverse its precipitous decline from those heights? Many Muslim and non-Muslim writers today answer this by blaming the West, but this just once again avoids the problem - for if Islam contains within it the means by which civilization can advance beyond anything the non-Muslim world has to offer, one would think that Muslims would be able to devise ways to circumvent the West's baneful influence.
Anyway, while an endeavor like "1001 Inventions" may have its merits, it is noteworthy that there is no corresponding project spotlighting inventions by Christians. Of course, the organizers of "1001 Inventions" would probably respond that this is because it is only Muslims whose civilizations and achievements are being denigrated, and so only Muslims need to remind the world of their forefathers' attainments. Also, it is generally assumed that the worldview and history of the dominant culture in any given area are generally
known.
However, in this age of multiculturalism and a tendency toward suicidal self-incrimination in the West, that can no longer be taken for granted. With hatred for their own culture and history rampant among young people in the West, it is likely that few students in the West today are aware of the historical innovations for which Christians are responsible, including those which were not just incidentally developed in a Christian context, but which owed their existence in whole or part from Christian assumptions.
Most people are likely unaware, for example, of the Catholic Church's pivotal role, which Woods details, in the development of the university, free market economics, and even secular legal codes. The Islamic world, of course, was among the beneficiaries of many of these Christian innovations, large and small.
In the late fifteenth century, the Persian mystical poet Nur ad-Din Abd ar-Rahman Jami (1414-1492) said that his vision had become extremely poor, although "with the aid of Prankish glasses," he could see things clearly again. Could the fatalism that is deeply rooted in the Islamic consciousness have retarded the development by Muslims of aids to vision?
Caving in to Bullies
THE ALLURE of Islam … owes much to its confidence. And that confidence has been bolstered during the past week. On Monday's Newsnight, Anjem Choudary of al-Ghuraba - the group that organised Friday's rally {in London} - showed in a series of furious outbursts how empowered extremists feel by the impunity they have enjoyed. In response to Jeremy Paxman's point that he might be happier in a country where Shari'a law was in place, Mr Choudary raged: 'Who said that you own Britain anyway? Britain belongs to Allah'.
– Matthew d'Ancona 'Free Speech:
Labour cares more about the Moslem vote,' in The Daily Telegraph [London]
08-02-2006, p. 18.
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Stark also details some of the innovations and discoveries of Christian Europe, principally advances in production methods, navigation and war technology, and concludes: "All of these remarkable developments can be traced to the unique Christian conviction that progress was a God-given obligation, entailed in the gift of reason.
That new technologies and techniques would always be forthcoming was a fundamental article of Christian faith. Hence, no bishops or theologians denounced clocks or sailing ships – although both were condemned on religious grounds in various non-Western societies." Indeed, clocks originated in medieval Catholic Europe, while in 1560, Ogier Ghiselin de Busbecq, the Austrian ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, wrote that his hosts had "never been able to bring themselves to print books and set up public clocks. They hold that their scriptures, that is, their sacred books, would no longer be scriptures if they were printed; and if they established public clocks, they think that the authority of their muezzins and their ancient rites would suffer diminution."
It was not until the mid-nineteenth century, time in which Islamic norms were on the defensive and in retreat, that the first public clock was installed in Constantinople; this may have been the first public clock erected in any Islamic country.
The effects of the Christian openness to innovation and the Islamic resistance to it reverberate in many fields. Even in medicine, while the Islamic world points proudly to many early physicians and medical theorists, it was not a Muslim, but the Belgian physician and researcher Andreas Vesalius (1514-1564), who paved the way for modern medical advances when he published the first accurate description of human internal organs, De Humani Corporis Fabrica (On the Fabric of the Human Body) in 1543. Why was a Muslim not able to do this? Because Vesalius was able to dissect human bodies, while that practice was forbidden in Islam. What's more, Vesalius's book is filled with detailed anatomical drawings – but also forbidden in Islam are artistic representations of the human body.
Stark's reference to "the unique Christian conviction that progress was a God-given obligation" may strike
some as odd in light of the fact that the Catholic Church condemned Galileo Galilei (1564-1642), the "father of science" himself, as a heretic for saying that the earth moved around the sun. Galileo and the Scopes Monkey Trial generally form the Catholic and Protestant bookends of the case that Christianity is anti-science.
However, historian Thomas Woods notes of the former: "The one-sided version of the Galileo affair with which most people are familiar is very largely to blame for the widespread belief that the Church has obstructed the advance of scientific inquiry. But even if the Galileo incident had been every bit as bad as people think it was, John Henry Cardinal Newman, the celebrated nineteenth-century convert from Anglicanism, found it revealing that this is practically the only example that ever comes to mind."
The myth is that an obscurantist Church blinded by dogma, hounded and condemned Galileo because Church officials could not square the idea that the earth moved around the sun with Scriptural declarations such as "Thou didst set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be shaken" (Psalm 104:5). Reality was not quite so pat. In fact, Jesuit astronomers were among Galileo's earliest and most enthusiastic supporters. When Galileo first published supporting evidence for the Gopernican heliocentric theory, Cardinal Maffeo Barberini (1568-1644), the future Pope Urban VIII - the Pope of whom he was later to run afoul - sent him a letter of congratulations. When Galileo visited Rome in 1624, Urban VIII, who had become Pope the year before, welcomed the scientist, gave him gifts, and assured him that the Church would never declare heliocentrism heretical. This is odd behavior on Barberini's part if he thought that Galileo was a heretic for teaching heliocentrism. In reality, the Pope and other churchmen, according to historian Jerome Langford, "believed that Galileo might be right, but they had to wait for more proof!'
What about the Biblical passages that seemed to teach that the Earth did not move? Cardinal Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621) explained that "if there were a real proof, that the sun does not go round the earth but the earth round the sun, then we should have to proceed with great circumspection in
explaining passages of Scripture which appear to teach the contrary, and rather admit that we did not understand them than declare an opinion to be false which is proved to be true. But as for myself, I shall not believe that there are such proofs until they are shown to me."
And that was the ultimate source of Galileo's conflict with the Church: he was teaching as fact what still at that time had only the status of theory. When Church officials asked Galileo in 1616 to teach heliocentrism as theory rather than as fact, he agreed; however, in 1632 he published a new work, Dialogue on the Great World Systems, in which he presented heliocentrism as fact again.
That was why Galileo was put on trial for suspected heresy and placed under house arrest; an order that he not be allowed to publish was not enforced. Historian J. L. Heilbron notes that from the beginning the controversy was not understood the way it has been presented by many critics of the Church since then. The condemnation of Galileo, says Heilbron, "had no general or theological significance. Gassendi, in 1642, observed that the decision of the cardinals [who condemned Galileo], though important for the faithful, did not amount to an article of faith; Riccioli, in 1651, that heliocentrism was not a heresy; Mengeli, in 1675, that interpretations of Scripture can only bind Catholics if agreed to at a general council; and Baldigiani, in 1678, that everyone knew all that."
Speaking about the Galileo case in 1992, Pope John Paul II remarked:
From the beginning of the Age of Enlightenment down to our own day, the Galileo case has been a sort of "myth", in which the image fabricated out of the events was quite far removed from reality. In this perspective,
the Galileo case was the symbol of the Church's supposed rejection of scientific progress, or of "dogmatic" obscurantism opposed to the free search for truth.
This myth has played a considerable cultural role. It has helped to anchor a number of scientists of good faith in the idea that there was an incompatibility between the spirit of science and its rules of research on the one hand and the Christian faith on the other.
A tragic mutual incomprehension has been interpreted as the reflection of a fundamental opposition between science and faith. The clarifications furnished by recent historical studies enable us to state that this sad misunderstanding now belongs to the past.
John Paul also reaffirmed the fundamentally Christian foundations of modern science: "Those who engage in scientific and technological research admit as the premise of its progress, that the world is not a chaos but a 'cosmos' - that is to say, that there exist order and natural laws which can be grasped and examined, and which, for this reason, have a certain affinity with the spirit. Einstein used to say; 'What is eternally incomprehensible in the world is that it is comprehensible'. This intelligibility, attested to by the marvellous discoveries of science and technology, leads us, in the last analysis, to that transcendent and primordial Thought imprinted on all things."
In a 2000 address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, he observed that "the man of science … feels a special responsibility in relation to the advancement of mankind, not understood in generic or ideal terms, but as the advancement of the whole man and of everything that is authentically human. Science conceived in this way can encounter the Church without difficulty and engage in a fruitful dialogue with her, because it is precisely man who is 'the primary and fundamental way for the Church' (
Redemptor hominis, n. 14)."
When modern science was in its infancy, openness to such exploration was common only in Christian Europe, and was conspicuously lacking from the Islamic world.
ROBERT SPENCER is the director of Jihad Watch and the author of two New York Times bestsellers on Islamic jihad. Spencer has written seven books, ten monographs, and well over two hundred articles about jihad and Islamic terrorism.
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Five women shot, buried alive in honour killings.
Five women shot, buried alive in honour killings
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 12, Monday, September 1, 2008
ISLAMABAD –
Tribesmen in south-western Pakistan have buried five women alive because they wanted to choose their own husbands.
The women, three of whom were teenagers, were shot and then thrown into a ditch.
They were still breathing as their bodies were covered with rocks and mud, according to reports and human rights activists, who said their only "crime" was that they wished to marry men of their own choosing.
But a Pakistani MP defended the killings, describing the actions as a centuries-old tradition.
"I will continue to defend them," Israr Ullah Zehri, who represents Baluchistan province, said. "Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid."
Mr Zehri told Parliament that Baluch tribal traditions helped stop obscenity and he asked fellow MPs not to make a big fuss about it.
Many stood in protest, saying the executions were "barbaric" and demanded discussions continue today. But a handful said it was an internal matter for the deeply conservative province.
"I was shocked," Nilofar Bakhtiar said. She pushed for legislation calling for perpetrators of so-called honour killings to be punished when she was minister for women's affairs in the previous government.
"I feel that we've gone back to the starting point again," she said. "It's really sad for me."
The incident allegedly occurred one month ago in Baba Kot, a remote village in Jafferabad district, after the women defied tribal elders and arranged marriages in a civil court, the Asian Human Rights Commission said.
They were said to have been abducted at gunpoint by six men, forced into a vehicle and taken to a remote field, where they were beaten, shot and then buried alive, it said, accusing local authorities of trying to hush up the killings.
Accounts about the killings have varied, largely because police in the tribal region have been unco-operative. #
[RECAPITULATION: … after the women defied tribal elders and arranged marriages in a civil court, …
They were said to have been abducted at gunpoint by six men, … beaten, shot and then buried alive …
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[COMMENT: A holy religious community, or more like the Mafia and IRA terrorists? Kidnapping married women and murdering them! Wickedness and dishonourable behaviour dressed up as "honour" behaviour, and pretending that the marriages were akin to "obscenity"!
Even the police keep out of it – their choice is to close their eyes and stay alive, or have their eyes closed in death.
ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:15 (or 4:14, or 4:19):- If any of your women be guilty of whoredom, then bring four witnesses against them from among yourselves; and if they bear witness to the fact, shut them up in their houses till death release them, or Allah make some way for them.
4:34 (or 4:38):- … Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because Allah hath of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness ye have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and
scourge them; …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Bukhari's collection, 3, 17:4206 ff :- There came to him a woman … and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. … she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. … he prayed over her and she was buried.
Bukhari's, 6, 60:250:-
[***] They found boys playing and Al-Khadir got hold of a handsome infidel boy laid him down and then slew him with a knife. [***]
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/060. sbt.html# 006.060.250 >
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[Sep 01, 08]
[Barnabas Fund leader for Perth.]
[Barnabas Fund leader for Perth]
Barnabas Fund Australia, www.barnabasfund.org ,
Ian Wright, CEO,
September 1, 2008 [Precis]
PERTH (W. Australia) –
The International Director of Barnabas Fund, Dr Patrick Sookhdeo, of Britain, formerly of Pakistan, will visit Perth on September 6 to 8 to meet sincerely interested supporters.
He is a convert from Islam, an advisor to Governments and military throughout the world, a theologian and author of many books.
He is widely recognised as one of the world's leading authorities on the persecuted Church, Islamic Terrorism, and Islam's impact on society and the Christian Church.
Mr Ian Wright, chief of the Barnabas Fund Australia, hopes that as many as possible will be invited by the Perth organisers to hear about the plight of the persecuted Church and what Barnabas Fund is doing to bring hope.
He asks for prayers, encouragement and help of Christians throughout the West, which is deeply appreciated by so many in the family of God who face persecution in all its various forms.
Timetable (each talk is different):
Saturday, Sep 6: North Beach, "The Challenge of Islamisation to Western Society."
Sunday, Sep 7: Fremantle, and Woodvale, "Christianity & Islam: Comparison and Compatibility."
Monday, Sep 8: Bassendean, "Christian Responses to Islam."
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[Sep 01, 08]
Undercover Mosque: The Return.
[LOOK BACK: "Undercover Mosque: The Transcripts" of January 15, 2007, came from MPACUK (Muslim Public Affairs Committee, United Kingdom),
< http://mpacuk. org/content/ view/3266/ 34/ >.
Or access it from < http://www. multiline.com. au/~johnm/ submit/ subchron6. htm# undercover_ mosques_ transcripts >.
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[RIPOSTES noted by a correspondent on MPACUL webpage:
See Shaykh Khalid Yasin's reply to them:
http://forum.challengeyoursoul.com/forum/topic1696.html
Also see the video that was broadcasted over the Internet as a reply (session 1):
http://forum.challengeyoursoul.com/forum/topic1700.html .
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[Sep 4, 08]
Claims To Have Found Ancient Capital Of Khazars.
CLAIMS TO HAVE FOUND ANCIENT CAPITAL OF KHAZARS
Russian archaeologists find long-lost Jewish capital - Yahoo! News
Agence France Presse,
September 6, 2008
MOSCOW (AFP) 6/9/08: Russian archaeologists said they had found the long-lost capital of the Khazar kingdom in southern Russia, a breakthrough for research on the ancient Jewish state.
"This is a hugely important discovery," expedition organiser Dmitry Vasilyev told AFP by telephone from Astrakhan State University after returning from excavations near the village of Samosdelka, just north of the Caspian Sea.
"We can now shed light on one of the most intriguing mysteries of that period - how the Khazars actually lived. We know very little about the Khazars - about their traditions, their funerary rites, their culture," he said.
The city was the capital of the Khazars, a semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the 8th and the 10th centuries, when it was captured and sacked by the rulers of ancient Russia.
At its height, the Khazar state and its tributaries controlled much of what is now southern Russia, western Kazakhstan, eastern Ukraine, Azerbaijan and large parts of Russia's North Caucasus region.
The capital is referred to as Itil in Arab chronicles but Vasilyev said the word may actually have been used to refer
to the Volga River on which the city was founded or to the surrounding river delta region.
Itil was said to be a multi-ethnic place with houses of worship and judges for Christians, Jews, Muslims and pagans. Its remains have until now never been identified and were said to have been washed away by the Caspian Sea.
Archaeologists have been excavating in the area of Samosdelka for the past nine years but have only now collected enough material evidence to back their thesis, including the remains of an ancient brick fortress, he added.
"Within the fortress, we have found huts similar to yurts, which are characteristics of Khazar cities… . The fortress had a triangular shape and was made with bricks. It's another argument that this was no ordinary city."
Around 10 university archaeologists and some 50 students took part in excavations in the region this summer, which are partly financed by the Jewish University in Moscow and the Russian Jewish Congress. #
[SPELLING: "Chazars" is spelt in some publications as "Khazars."
ENDS.]
[FURTHER READING: The Thirteenth Tribe, by Koestler.
ENDS.]
[CONTACT: bluks \at\ alor \dot\ org .
ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: The New Times Survey, GPO Box 1052, Melbourne, Vic, 3001, Australia, September 2008, p 7.
ENDS.]
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[Sep 6, 08]
Bloody toll in mosque raid.
Bloody toll in mosque raid
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 36, Friday, September 12, 2008
ISLAMABAD – At least 20 people were killed and 30 wounded when suspected militants hurled grenades and fired into a mosque in northern Pakistan during evening prayers on Wednesday.
A senior security official said the attackers fled into the mountains after the raid in the remote district of Dir, in North West Frontier Province, near the Afghan border. #
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[Sep 12, 08]
Car bomb threatens Lebanon peace hopes.
Car bomb threatens Lebanon peace hopes
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 36, Friday, September 12, 2008
[Picture] Death trap: Police inspect the ruins of the car in which Saleh Aridi thed on Wednesday. Picture: Reuters
BEIRUT – The killing of a Lebanese politician in the first such attack against a pro-Syrian figure has jeopardised national reconciliation efforts already undermined by deep rifts between rival factions.
Saleh Aridi, a senior member of the Lebanese Democratic Party, was assassinated in a car bombing late on Wednesday in his home town of Baysur, sooth-east of Beirut.
A security official said that 700g of explosives had been placed under his car. There was no immediate claim of responsibility.
Six people also were slightly wounded in the attack, which was condemned by the US Government, a key supporter of Prime Minister Fouad Siniora.
Lebanese President Michel Sleiman warned against any attempts to derail efforts at national reconciliation, with the attack taking place just a day after he announced the start of multi-party talks next Tuesday.
"This crime comes as we are working towards reconciliation," Mr Siniora told An-Nahar newspaper. "A criminal hand has sought to abort these efforts to create dissent among the Lebanese."
Mr Aridi, in his 50s, was a top adviser to pro-Syrian Druze leader and Government Minister Talal Arslan, a rival to Druze anti-Syrian leader Walid Jumblatt. His father also is a leading Druze religious figure.
Mr Jumblatt denounced the attack, saying it was a bid to sow violence between his party and Mr Arslan's, which were reconciled in May.
Lebanon and Syria last month announced their intention to open diplomatic ties for the first time since independence from France 60 years ago.
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said last week that he expected full diplomatic relations with Lebanon to be established by the end of this year.
"Who wants to kill the dialogue?" questioned French newspaper L'Orient-Le-Jour. An-Nahar declared: "The killing in Baysur: A bloody veto against reconciliation."
The pro-Syrian As-Safir for its part pointed the finger at Israel. "Those who feel threatened by national reconciliation have tried to assassinate the political truce and the positive atmosphere in the country just days before the national dialogue," it said.
Tuesday's talks come after Lebanon went through its worst political crisis since the end of the 1975-1990 civil war, with sectarian clashes in May leaving at least 65 dead. #
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[Sep 12, 08]
DIY jihad book author faces jail, new trial.
[Belal Saadallah Khazaal]
DIY jihad book author faces jail, new trial
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 43, Friday, September 12, 2008
SYDNEY – Former Qantas cabin cleaner Belal Saadallah Khazaal faces up to 15 years in jail after being convicted over a terrorism "do-it-yourself" jihad book and a possible retrial on a second charge.
A NSW Supreme Court jury yesterday said it was unable to reach a verdict on the second charge related to the 110-page book written in Arabic.
The jury had found the Sydney man guilty of making a document – between September 20 and 23, 2003 – connected with assistance in a terrorist act and knowing of that connection.
But the jury was discharged yesterday after failing to agree on a verdict on a charge of attempting to incite others to engage in a terrorist act, between September 22 and October 8, 2003.
The second charge related to Khazaal arranging for the book to be posted on a website www.almagdese.com .
Khazaal, 38, of Lakemba in Sydney's south-west, had denied both charges at his trial, which began four weeks ago.
The book was titled: Provisions on the Rules of Jihad – short judicial rulings and organisational instructions for fighters and mujahideen against infidels.
US international terrorism consultant Evan Kohlmann told the jury the book was "do-it-yourself jihad", saying it was aimed at people who "don't have Osama bin Laden's telephone number".
Both the crown and defence agreed that, apart from a few paragraphs written by Khazaal, the book was compiled from material written by others.
His barrister George Thomas emphasised this material was freely available in the public domain and called evidence to show Khazaal was part of the publishing team of a Sydney Islamic magazine.
But crown prosecutor Peter Neil said Khazaal "directly turned his mind to important sections of the book by editing them to put them into a final format".
Mr Neil said the book promoted jihad terrorist acts, including exploding bombs, shooting down planes and assassinating people such as US President George Bush.
Australia also was listed as a target.
The book's dedication list included martyrs of Islam, prisoners "languishing in the prisons of tyrants, be it infidels, apostates or hypocrites, Christians or Jews".
Much emphasis was placed at the trial on two chapters, one on assassinations and one headed The Last Word, which refers to Ayman Al-Zawahiri.
Mr Neil described him as a very well known international terrorist who was "very high up in al-Qaida".
Twelve methods of assassination were listed including sniper attacks, booby trapping cars, smothering and shooting down planes. #
[RECAPITULATION: … infidels, apostates or hypocrites, Christians or Jews … ENDS.]
[DEFINITION: Dictionaries can define all of the above, plus "infidels" and "disbelievers / unbelievers," but help is needed with the word "hypocrites." If you read enough Islamic doctrine and commentary, it becomes clear that, to a Muslim, a hypocrite is another Muslim with whom he disagrees about his/her fervour, or his/her beliefs and customs. Muslims are ordered to make war on "hypocrites." In sum total, the list of possible victims means – anyone you dislike!
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[COMMENT: Instead of our federal politicians and the major parties knowing, in advance, the dangerous implications of indiscriminate immigration, electors saw this week (and after a previous federal election) that, the Howard government's treasurer (and a former parliamentary leader of the Labor Party), are experts in criticising their own party colleagues by writing books "bagging" them – when it was too late to vote them out !
It would also be useful if the politicians read page 46 of the same paper, where it seems that a Chinese government company called Sinosteel is buying another slice of the Australian iron-ore industry. In the end the "footy fan" Australians might be seeing the iron ore being sold globally by Chinese firms in Australia, staffed by Chinese workers, to the Chinese and other such authoritarian governments. That's the secret aim of multiculturalism!
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Sep 12, 08]
We need more Muslim babies -- then we can take over Britain
- Anjem Choudary speaks.
We need more Muslim babies
… then we can take over Britain
The Sun (Britain),
http://www. thesun.co. uk/sol/ homepage/ news/ article 1683635.ece ,
By ANTHONY FRANCE a.france@the-sun.co.uk and VINCE SOODIN, Published: Sep 13, 2008
[Picture] Preaching … Abu Saalihah, left, Anjem Choudary, Abu Omar and Saiful Islam with Omar Bakri webcast on wall behind Peter Jordan/The Sun
A HATE fanatic has boasted that Muslims will one day conquer Britain – by having more BABIES.
Speaking at a rally marking 9/11, Anjem Choudary bragged that a birth explosion would let followers of Islam take control of the country.
Undercover Sun investigators secretly recorded Choudary telling a young and impressionable audience that they would eventually rule under strict Sharia law.
And our team listened in chilled silence as he predicted: "Islam is superior and will never be surpassed. The flag of Islam will rise over Downing Street."
[Video] Call for UK Islamic state. Hate fanatic wants to 'conquer' Britain.
Lawyer Choudary also said it would be easy for vast numbers of Muslims to declare Jihad, or holy war, against Britain – and that every one of them could become "a time bomb waiting to go off".
The Sun team watched vile Choudary, the right-hand man of exiled preacher of hate Omar Bakri, ranting to 100 young Muslims at a meeting in East London.
The mob bayed and cheered as he said: "About 500 people in Britain become Muslim every day.
"The Home Office say there are 1.5million Muslims but there were 1.5million ten years ago. Since then our brothers in Bethnal Green, Whitechapel and other places have had eight or nine children each. Eight children here, ten children, 15 children. There must be at least six million people.
"It may be by pure conversion that Britain will become an Islamic state. We may never need to conquer it from the outside."
Security
The rally – advertised as a debate on whether the West had "learned the lessons" of 9/11 – was held amid strict security in a hall above a mosque in Lea Bridge Road, Leyton. Stewards on the door demanded ID from non-Muslims.
[Picture] Meeting hall's entrance
Inside the atmosphere was tense as dozens of young men in their teens or 20s packed chairs at the front while the few women present were ushered to the back. Choudary – whose family live on £25,000 a year in benefits – whipped them into a frenzy with a speech calling for Sharia law, under which criminals and adulterers are stoned or have limbs amputated.
He roared: "We do not integrate into Christianity. We will ensure that one day you will integrate into the Sharia Islamic law. Our eyes are on Downing Street."
He went on: "That is why the British are so afraid. It would be easy for us to declare Jihad in Britain and each one of us could become a time-bomb waiting to go off. But we are not people who betray."
Choudary, who once called for the Pope to be executed and said the 9/11 hijackers were "magnificent martyrs", also claimed without a shred of evidence that 200 Muslim women were locked up in British jails.
[Picture] Speaker – Anjem Choudary Peter Jordan / The Sun
Midway through the three-hour rally there was a break for prayers and food. The audience knelt on the floor and free chicken curry and bottles of water were handed out – but nobody ate or drank until a signal from chairman Abu Omar.
Another hate-filled speaker, Saiful Islam, praised terror chief Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaeda for their courage in retaliating against the West's "oppression".
He warned of a repeat of the 9/11 attacks in which more than 3,000 died in America, or another 7/7 suicide attack in London. He said: "The blame of 9/11 belongs to no one but the American government. They are the terrorists.
Learned
"Sheikh Osama warned America numerous times, it was because of their own arrogance, because they thought they are a superpower and nobody could match them, that Sheikh Osama taught them a lesson – a lesson they still haven't learned."
Referring to Iraq and Afghanistan, he warned the US and Britain: "Wake up. Withdraw. Listen. All of us have a part to play in stopping the violence or the next 9/11 will take place in Britain, the next 7/7 could take place locally."
[Picture] Praying – audience kneels after hearing Choudary speak. Peter Jordan/The Sun
The meeting was also addressed by law lecturer Abu Saalihah and there was a live webcam link to Omar Bakri at his Lebanon hideout.
Yesterday unrepentant Bakri said he could not understand what moderate Muslims have against Bin Laden.
He also dismissed 9/11 as "just an event" which was neither good nor bad but comparable to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Speaking from Beirut he said: "Osama Bin Laden is a legendary person for Muslims round the world."
Last night the meeting was condemned by moderate Muslims.
Iqbal Sacranie, ex-Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: "Such outrageous and irresponsible comments are nothing new from the likes of Omar Bakri and his lot. These people know they do not represent the views of the vast majority, if not the entire community, of Muslims in the UK."
Last night Scotland Yard asked The Sun for a copy of our video showing Choudary and Islam's rants.
The Counter-Terrorism Command will study the footage. Sources stressed they had not launched a formal inquiry but one said: "We want to see if any laws were breached."
a.france@the-sun.co.uk #
[RECAPITULATION: … Choudary also said it would be easy for vast numbers of Muslims to declare Jihad, or holy war, against Britain [… ] "It may be by pure conversion that Britain will become an Islamic state. We may never need to conquer it from the outside."
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[COMMENT: Well, conquest of the Persian and Eastern Roman Byzantine civilisations were attempted early in Islam's career. They were written letters telling them to convert, or be conquered. The Persian civilisation and its religion fell first, and much of the territories of the Christian Byzantines were stolen soon, the city and its surrounds holding out for centuries until 1453.
Hang on! Citizens who plan to conquer a country from outside, have a nasty name given to them – the word starts with "trai … " One wonders if Scotland Yard will know how to spell it. The provincial police in Britain didn't – in 2007 they charged Channel 4 with an offence, instead of taking action on the evidence of treason and incitement to terrorism by Islamists.. Channel 4's detective work has recently unveiled more treason.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[ENRICHMENT: To read more about multiculturalism, such as members of a religion demanding the right for all men to carry knives (kirpans), and for people to go masked in public on ordinary business, try visiting: http:// islamineurope. blogspot. com/ 2006/10/ denmark- kirpan- banned.html .
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[Sep 13, 08]
Guilty verdicts in terror trial.
Guilty verdicts in terror trial
Herald Sun (Melbourne),
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24347504-5005961,00.html ,
AAP, 12:54pm, September 15, 2008
MELBOURNE –
A MUSLIM cleric has been found guilty of leading and being a member of a terrorist organisation in Australia's biggest terror trial.
Jurors today found Abdul Nacer Benbrika, 48, was a member of a Melbourne terror cell.
Five of his followers were also found guilty.
Benbrika displayed no emotion as the jury delivered a guilty verdict on charges of intentionally directing the activities of a terrorist organisation and of being a member of a terrorist organisation.
Guilty of being a member of a terrorist organisation are Aimen Joud, 23, of Hoppers Crossing, Fadl Sayadi, 28, of Coburg, Abdullah Merhi, 22, of Fawkner, Ezzit Raad, 26, of Preston, and Ahmed Raad, 24, also of Fawkner.
Not guilty are Hany Taha, 33, of Hadfield, Bassam Raad, 26, of Brunswick, Majed Raad, 23, of Coburg, and Shoue Hammoud, 28, of Hadfield.
The jury was unable to reach verdicts on charges against Shane Kent, 31, of Meadow Heights and Amer Haddara, 28, of Yarraville.
After a Supreme Court trial that ran for 115 days, jurors took three weeks and five days to reach a verdict.
Phone intercepts
The 12 men, who were arrested in 2005, were accused of planning terrorist acts in Melbourne, involving the detonation of an explosive or use of weapons.
The trial heard from more than 50 witnesses and was played thousands of hours of listening device material and telephone intercepts.
The jury was told Benbrika, 48, of Dallas in Melbourne, had told his followers it was "permissible to kill women, children and the aged" and that the group needed to kill at least 1000 non-believers to make the Australian Government withdraw soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan.
In April, prosecution witness Izzydeen Atik told the court Benbrika had told him of the targets in 2005.
"He said the AFL grand final was the original target," Atik told the court.
Targets
When the plan to target the crowd of close to 100,000 on grand final day had to be shelved, the terrorists allegedly spoke about planning to attack Crown Casino during the 2006 Australian Formula One Grand Prix and a pre-season AFL game.
Earlier this month Justice Bernard Bongiorno warned jurors Atik was a liar and fraudster whose evidence was unsafe.
"If you are considering Atik's evidence you must do so in the light of the cloud hanging over him," Justice Bongiorno said.
In his opening address in February, prosecutor Richard Maidment SC spoke of a group that was exclusively Muslim and male, set up in Melbourne to carry out a violent jihad.
Defence lawyers argued the men were not terrorists but young men learning about Islam from a self-styled sheikh who, "couldn't organise a booze-up in a brewery".
Benbrika's lawyer Remy Van de Wiel said his client was an unworldly man who thought it was possible to drive to Tasmania.
Mixed verdicts
The four men found not guilty made no comment as they walked free from court, flanked by their lawyers.
Altogether, the 12 men had faced a total of 27 counts.
Among a mixed bag of verdicts, the jury found Joud, Sayadi and Ahmed Raad guilty of intentionally providing resources to a terrorist organisation, knowing it was a terrorist organisation.
Ahmed Raad, Ezzit Raad and Joud were also found guilty of intentionally making funds available to a terrorist organisation.
Taha was found not guilty of that charge.
Joud and Benbrika were found guilty of possessing a CD connected with the preparation of terrorist act.
Joud was found guilty on two counts of that charge.
While found guilty of being a member of a terrorist organisation, Merhi was found not guilty of intentionally providing resources to a terrorist organisation.
Bassam Raad and Hammoud were found not guilty of making funds available to a terrorist organisation. #
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[September 15, 2008]
Cleric guilty of leading a terror group.
Cleric guilty of leading a terror group
The West Australian,
http://www. thewest.com. au/aapstory. aspx?Story Name= 514925 ,
AAP, (internet) 17:52 WST, September 15, 2008
MELBOURNE –
Radical Muslim cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika has become Australia's first convicted terrorist leader after a marathon trial was told of his plans to cause mass casualties at landmark Melbourne sites.
Five followers have also been convicted of being members of his terrorist cell, which discussed bombing the Melbourne Cricket Ground on
grand final day and killing women and children in their pursuit of violent jihad.
Another four alleged members of the group were found not guilty and walked free from court on Monday.
Benbrika, 48, displayed no emotion as a Victorian Supreme Court jury found him guilty of intentionally directing the activities of a terrorist organisation and of being a member of a terrorist organisation.
The jury also found five of his followers - Aimen Joud, 23, of Hoppers Crossing, Fadl Sayadi, 28, of Coburg, Abdullah Merhi, 22, of Fawkner, Ezzit Raad, 26, of Preston, and Ahmed Raad, 24, also of Fawkner - guilty of being members of a terrorist organisation.
The four cleared men - Hany Taha, 33, of Hadfield, Bassam Raad, 26, of Brunswick, Majed Raad, 23, of Coburg, and Shoue Hammoud, 28, of Hadfield - made no comment as they walked free from court in central Melbourne, flanked by their lawyers.
Australia's biggest terrorism trial ran for 115 days. The jury deliberated for 21 days before returning its verdicts on Monday.
But jurors have more work to do. They are yet to reach verdicts on charges against Shane Kent and Amer Haddara and will continue deliberations on Tuesday.
The trial heard from more than 50 witnesses and was played thousands of hours of recordings captured by listening devices and telephone intercepts.
The jury heard that Benbrika, of the Melbourne suburb of Dallas, had told his followers it was "permissible to kill women, children and the aged" and that the group needed to kill at least 1,000 non-believers to make the Australian government withdraw troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
He told one of his group: "If we want to die for jihad, we do maximum damage, maximum damage, damage their buildings with everything and damage their lives just to show them".
In April, prosecution witness Izzydeen Atik told the court Benbrika spoke to him of a plan to blow up the MCG on grand final day in 2005, when the stadium would have been packed with almost 100,000 fans.
"He said the AFL grand final was the original target," Atik told the court.
Outside court, Benbrika's lawyer Remy van de Wiel was unsure whether there would be an appeal.
"I don't make this decision. I'll wait until he tells me," Mr van de Wiel said.
He said Benbrika had been very stressed throughout the court proceedings.
Federal Attorney-General Robert McClelland welcomed the convictions.
"It is my view that the successful prosecution in the Pendennis trials is the most successful terrorist prosecution that this country has seen," Mr McClelland said.
But Mr McClelland said the government must remain vigilant for both home grown militants and international groups like Jemaah Islamiah.
"It would be naive to discount the prospect of a terrorist attack in Australia, clearly a terrorist attack in Australia is possible," he said.
The 12 men, who were arrested following raids on their homes in November 2005, faced a total of 27 counts.
Among a mixed bag of verdicts, the jury found Joud, Sayadi and Ahmed Raad guilty of intentionally providing resources to a terrorist organisation, knowing it was a terrorist organisation.
Ahmed Raad, Ezzit Raad and Joud were also found guilty of intentionally making funds available to a terrorist organisation.
Before being sent home on Tuesday night, jurors were warned by trial judge Justice Bernard Bongiorno not to watch the television news or read newspapers.
"It is more important than ever that you keep yourself completely divorced from that," Justice Bongiorno said.
Jurors will resume deliberations on the two remaining accused, who face a total of three counts, at 9am (AEST) on Tuesday.
A pre-sentence hearing for the six guilty men will begin on November 18. AAP #
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[Sep 15, 08]
Guilty findings for six men in terrorist trial.
Guilty findings for six men in terrorist trial
Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/guilty-findings-for-six-men-in-terrorist-trial/2008/09/15/1221330747897.html ,
with video, by Karen Kissane,
September 16, 2008
MELBOURNE –
ABDUL NACER BENBRIKA slouched low in his seat, greyer and more worn than when he was arrested three years ago. He still wears his long beard and caftan but has aged visibly during his incarceration. His skin has taken on a yellow tinge, and there are pouches under his eyes that did not used to be there.
As he sat in the Supreme Court yesterday Benbrika and five of his followers were found guilty in Australia's biggest terrorism trial. Four more men were acquitted and a decision on the final two accused is expected in the Melbourne court today.
Over seven months the jury heard evidence on 27 charges from more than 50 witnesses. The Crown's case included 482 covertly recorded conversations.
They heard allegations that Benbrika had plotted to carry out terrorist attacks on the 2005 AFL grand final and the 2006 NAB Cup, and on Melbourne's Crown Casino on the Grand Prix weekend in 2006.
Benbrika had appeared quiet and withdrawn during the trial but yesterday he looked like a man expecting bad news. His face remained impassive each time the jury forewoman quietly pronounced him "Guilty". But his legs were jiggling nervously.
At the first call of guilty - of being a member of a terrorist organisation - he murmured to the young man who would be convicted next, Aimen Joud. Joud stroked his own beard as he was pronounced guilty on five counts.
Several of the other men were close to tears - of grief for their loss or relief at their win - as the verdicts passed along the two rows of seats in the dock. Most bent over and gazed at their knees to shield their faces as their fate was pronounced.
But when the four who had been acquitted stood, free to leave, there was an outburst of joy and sorrow among all the men. They embraced affectionately, one after the other, offering congratulations and commiserations and slapping each other on the back.
For the first time in a long time, the Benbrika 12 were no longer 12.
Shane Kent and Amer Haddara await their verdicts. For Benbrika, Joud and the other four convicted yesterday the next issue will be their sentences.
The defence lawyers had often told the jurors that they needed to differentiate between the defendants because they were really participating in 27 separate trials: 12 different defendants on a total of 27 counts. Yesterday's mixed bag of verdicts suggests that the jury took them at their word, evaluating the evidence for each accused independently.
The prosecution had alleged that the 12 men, all Muslims from Melbourne's northern suburbs, were part of an organisation pursuing terrorism in the pursuit of jihad and that Benbrika was their leader. Ten of the men had faced other charges too and all had pleaded not guilty.
The Algerian-born Benbrika, 48, was a father of seven. He was also a self-appointed Muslim "sheik", or religious leader, who had gathered around him a group of young Australians, all but one of Lebanese background, whom he taught about Islam.
For some of those men, the jury seems to have decided, the involvement went no further than that: an interest in religious classes. Several lawyers had argued that their clients had never been present during conversations involving violent jihadi rhetoric.
But Benbrika is now a convicted terrorist. He had wanted to pressure the Government into withdrawing troops from Iraq, the prosecution had alleged. He was recorded saying: "Here in Australia, when you do something, they stop to send the troop … If you kill - we kill here a thousand, the government is going to think."
The evidence included many of Benbrika's own words in covert recordings, particularly comments about wanting "maximum damage" and "to die for jihad".
The group had been infiltrated by a police secret agent, known only as SIO 39, who represented himself as a Turk called Ahmed with an interest in jihad.
In one exchange with SIO 39, Benbrika spoke of wanting money to buy weapons and chemicals.
In another, the agent told Benbrika he could get fertiliser that could be used to make explosives. The agent told Benbrika it would take up to 75 kilograms to destroy a suburban house.
Benbrika asked: "Even if you would like to get 500 kilo, can you get them?"
On October 6, 2004, the agent took Benbrika to bushland to demonstrate his knowledge of explosives. Police secretly filmed the whole exercise.
There was no evidence at the trial that Benbrika had told any of the other men about the trip.
The prosecution claimed that Benbrika led an organisation whose structures included a joint fund called a "sandooq"; income from a car-stripping scam; air tickets bought with fraudulently obtained credit-card numbers; and a system of pledging loyalty (or giving the "bayat") to Benbrika.
There were several trips involving some of the men, which the Crown described as either bonding or training camps: to Ocean Grove near Geelong, to Louth and Eden in NSW.
Benbrika possessed material that the Crown alleged was part of "a common jihadi library" that extolled killing the "kuffr" (unbelievers) and martyrdom. The material included videos of beheadings and a document with advice on how to establish a terrorist cell.
Aimen Joud, 23, was only 19 when he became involved with Benbrika. The Crown said he was part of an alleged "consultative committee".
When police escorted him from his home in the early morning, Joud raised his hands and said, "Allah akbar!" (God is great!)
The evidence against him included a conversation in Ezzit Raad's garage on September 10, 2004. Ezzit Raad was protesting over the fact that they wanted to store a stolen car with him. He kept saying he could not see how this was right before Allah.
Ahmed Raad said: "What can I do man? What more proof do you want? You think we just go and get the weapons and walk off? We need money to get it, praise is to Allah. You have patience, man."
Ezzit continued to protest and Joud said the "brothers in Chechnya" didn't just stand around in videos holding AK 47s. "They don't do it every single day, man. They do this. They take."
The Crown said this was evidence that Joud knew it was a terrorist organisation, and that the purpose of making money from the car was to buy weapons.
Two CDs were found in Joud's home when it was searched on September 17, 2004. One contained The Terrorist's Handbook. The second CD contained material glorifying martyrdom and graphic images from war zones such as Bosnia and Chechnya. One video showed the execution (by a knife in the neck) of a Russian, and another man having his head cut off with an axe.
Fadl Sayadi, 28, worked as a forklift driver and concreter. He was convicted of being a member and of providing resources to the organisation by acting as a leader.
The prosecution said he was another member of the "consultative committee", and that he watched out for the group's security. He warned Benbrika to be careful of "Ahmed" (the police agent SIO 39).
Mr Maidment said the roles adopted by Sayadi and Joud were made clear in a conversation about an outing to the Yarra valley that had been a debacle and talked of "the lack of discipline shown by members of the organisation".
Sayadi was recorded saying: "If we are the elders and we can't be patient and guide them as good examples, what would it be like in the future? We will probably kill each other, man."
Mr Maidment said this and other conversations showed Sayadi and Joud "organising the troops, determining who should go, who should stay, who should be contacted and so on".
Mr Maidment also pointed to phone calls in 2004 in which Sayadi was told by a contact in Lebanon that his name was listed with Lebanese state security because he belonged to "a certain society". Sayadi then called Shoue Hammoud, who was travelling in Lebanon, and told him to start praying and to make up a story about why he was travelling there.
Abdullah Merhi, 22, an apprentice electrician, is the youngest of the accused. He has been found guilty of being a member but not guilty of intentionally providing resources to the organisation by offering himself as a suicide bomber, a charge his lawyer had described as obscenely unjust.
Merhi was covertly recorded asking Benbrika whether it would be right under Islam to kill the then prime minister, John Howard, if his policies killed innocent Muslim families.
His lawyer, Mark Taft, SC, said it was a theoretical question, asked to tease out Benbrika's interpretation of the Koran. In another exchange that the prosecution claims was about his impatience to help commit a terrorist act, Merhi told Benbrika he did not want to wait even two years and asked whether Allah would "open the door" soon.
Ahmed Raad has been found guilty of being treasurer of the sandooq. The prosecution said he was also a member of the consultative committee. Now 25, he has a wife and child. He had given up plumbing following a work injury and earned money selling phone cards. Lawyer Julian McMahon described Ahmed Raad as having "modest intelligence".
The prosecution case against Ahmed Raad relied partly on the garage conversation in which he and Joud spoke to Ezzit Raad about the need to steal and strip cars to buy weapons.
Ezzit Raad, 26, is married with two children. He was an electrician before his arrest. He was found guilty of being a member and of attempting to make funds available to the organisation.
In July 2005, a gathering of men at Benbrika's were talking about how the London bombings a week earlier had killed 52. Ezzit Raad said: "Should have been more."
The four men who walked free yesterday were Shoue Hammoud, Hany Taha, Bassam Raad and Majed Raad. They had no comment for the media but lawyer for Majed Raad, Gerard Mullaly, said of his client: "He's happy that the ordeal is over and he is looking forward to getting on with his life." #
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[September 16, 2008]
Cleric guilty of plot to bomb MCG grand final.
Six Islamists convicted and four cleared in Australia’s biggest terror trial with jury yet to decide fate of another two
[Pictures] Ahmed Raad, Ezzit Raad, Aimen Joud, Abdullah Merhi, Fadl Sayaddi
Cleric guilty of plot to bomb MCG grand final
The West Australian,
by GARETH PARKER, p 3, Tuesday, September 16, 2008
[Picture] Abdul Nacer Benbrika faces up to 25 years jail Picture: Fairfax
MELBOURNE – Firebrand Islamic cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika has been found guilty of leading a terrorism cell that planned to kill thousands of people by blowing up the Melbourne Cricket Ground on AFL grand final day.
After a marathon six-month trial and 21 days of deliberations in Australia's biggest terrorism case, a Victorian Supreme Court jury yesterday found Benbrika, 48, and five of the 12 co-accused men guilty of intentionally being members of a terrorist organisation.
Four men were cleared of the charge as the jury continued its deliberations on the fate of another two.
Benbrika, who was born in Algeria, is a self-appointed religious leader and father of seven who came to Australia on a tourist visa in 1989. He showed no emotion as the verdicts were read out.
His lawyer Remy vaa de Wiel said he had no instructions to appeal and that his client, who had pleaded not guilty to all charges, had been under a lot of stress.
In addition to being found guilty of leading and being a member of the terrorist organisation, Benbrika was convicted of possessing material connected with the preparation of a terrorist act, namely a CD of material including instructions for making car bombs and graphic videos of the ritual beheading of Western captives by Muslim terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The case against the 12 men, all of whom lived in Islamic communities in Melbourne's northern suburbs and, except Benbrika, were born in Australia, arose out of Operation Pendennis, a two-year counter-terrorism investigation run jointly by the Australian Federal Police and State police in NSW and Victoria.
The prosecution case relied heavily on more than 480 conversations captured by phone taps and listening devices in Benbrika's home.
In the recordings, Benbrika was heard telling associates in Sydney: "We want to die for jihad. We do maximum damage, maximum damage. Damage their buildings with everything and damage their lives just to show them. That's what we are waiting for."
In another recorded conversation, Benbrika said if the group killed big numbers of Australians, the Government would reconsider its troop commitments to Afghanistan and Iraq.
"If you kill here a thousand, the Government is going to think, because if you get large numbers here, the Government will listen," Benbrika said.
‘Couldn't organise a booze-up in a brewery let alone organise a terrorist organisation. ’
DEFENCE LAWYER JAMES MONTGOMERY
He believed Australia was "a land of war" and said it was the duty of all Muslims to engage in violent jihad.
In other intercepts, the men are heard discussing a car theft racket and argue about whether it is permissible under Islam to steal cars and commit credit card fraud if the proceeds of crime are put towards a "sandooq", or common fund, that the prosecution argued was for the preparation of a terrorist attack.
The prosecution also relied on the evidence of Izzydeen Atik, a one-time disciple of Benbrika.
Mr Atik claimed Benbrika told him in April 2005 that the 2005 AFL grand final, between Sydney and West Coast Eagles in front of 91,000 people, would be their primary target, but the attack was set back after Australian Security Intelligence Organisation raids and funding problems. Other targets were the 2006 AFL pre-season cup final and Crown Casino during the weekend of the 2006 Formula One grand prix.
But Mr Atik's credibility was challenged by lawyers for the accused as it was revealed he had a history of credit card and pension fraud and suffered mental illness.
A police spy, known as SIO 39, told the court how he infiltrated the group and offered to obtain explosives for Benbrika. In an exercise captured by a surveillance camera, SIO 39 took Benbrika to bush at Mt Disappointment, north-east of Melbourne and showed him how to detonate a small ammonium-nitrate bomb. Mr van de Wiel argued SIO 39 was trying to provoke and encourage Benbrika.
During the trial, Mr van de Wiel claimed Benbrika was not a threat and his comments about jihad and terrorism were little more than big-noting.
Another defence lawyer, James Montgomery, told the jury a bumbling Benbrika "could not lead ants to sugar, couldn't organise a booze-up in a brewery, let alone organise a terrorist organisation".
Federal Attorney-General Robert McClellan said the prosecution was the most successful of its kind in Australia.
Benbrika faces up to 25 years jail, while the other men found guilty of being members of a terrorist organisation – Abdullah Merhi, 23, Aimen Joud, 23, Ahmed Raad, 25, Fadl Sayaddi, 28 and Ez'zit Raad, 26 – face up to 10 years.
Those acquitted were Harry Taha, 33, Shoue Hammoud, Bassam Raad, 27 and Majed Raad, 23.
The jury was last night continuing deliberations in the case of Shane Kent, 31, and Amer Haddara, 28. #
[RECAPITULATION: … the 12 men, all of whom lived in Islamic communities in Melbourne's northern suburbs and, except Benbrika, were born in Australia, …
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Home-grown terrorists! So, is it the "culture" they belong to, their genes, or perhaps it's really all the fault of the "Skippies".
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Sep 16, 08]
[Mickey Mouse, Tom and Jerry, skimpy bans -- or beheading, hostage taking.]
[Mickey Mouse, Tom and Jerry, skimpy bans – or beheading, hostage taking.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Wednesday, September 17, 2008
Page 14. Mickey Mouse 'impure'

RIYADH: Mickey Mouse is a corrupting influence and must die, Saudi Arabian Muslim Sheikh Muhammad Munajid said. The mouse was one of Satan's soldiers and made everything it touched impure.
Tom and Jerry's cartoons were wrong because they were teaching children the mouse creature was lovable.
He is a former diplomat in Washington DC. Under sharia household mice and cartoon mice must be killed, he said on al-Majd TV.
Last month he dubbed the Beijing Olympics as the "bikini Olympics"; nothing made Satan happier than skimpily-clad athletes.
Page 14. Seventh man guilty of terror offence.

MELBOURNE: A Supreme Court jury declared Amer Haddar guilty of being a member of a terrorist organisation, a day after finding six other members of the Abdul Nacer Benbrika group guilty of the same offence. They will appeal.
The jury was deadlocked on the case of Shane Kent (31), who was remanded in custody to await retrial. It was one of the longest and most dramatic trials in Victorian history.
Page 23. Sharia law
[against civil liberties.]

LETTER: In Britain sharia law is to become enforceable in marriage, divorce and even in domestic violence (which is a criminal offence under British law).
However, under Islamic law women are not treated equally to men: the testimony of a woman is worth only one quarter [error: half] that of a man.
Have we all gone mad? It seems that now parliamentary process has been hijacked and replaced by sharia at the whim and intimidation of a vicious vocal minority. Why did so many go off to fight Kaiser Bill and Adolf Hitler? – #. ). %!^^#$, Coolbellup.
Page 40. Hostages rescued.

SOMALIA: The French army rescued a French couple who have been held hostage by Somali pirates for two weeks. One pirate was killed and six captured. The Venezuelan-registered yacht had been captured and taken to Bargal village in semi-autonomous Puntland region of Somalia. Jean-Yves and Bernadette Delanne have lived for years in Tahiti.
[COMMENT: In Pakistan's North-West Frontier it is semi-autonomous, too. "Feral" might be a better term for such areas.]
Page 40. Peace talks begin.

LEBANON: Rival factions began reconciliation talks yesterday, with the thorny issue of Hizbollah's weapons topping the agenda. Qatar had brokered a deal in May.
[COMMENT: Lebanon is decades-long living proof that Islam is "fighteous," not righteous.]
Page 40. Family fights back.

PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES: At least 11 were killed when the Hamas-run security forces in Gaza City tried to arrest members of the Doghmush clan, accused of gunning down a police officer on Monday.
Page 44. I have MPs' backing to take over: Anwar.

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim said yesterday he had secured the support of more than 31 Government MPs, enabling him to form a new administration. With this win the country's dignity could be restored, he hoped.
The government leader refuses to meet Anwar. Last week an opposition politician, a prominent blogger, and a reporter were arrested under laws that allow for detention without trial.
[COMMENT: The Heavens are not exactly smiling on the unfortunate citizens, subject to such a lawless law, and persecutions also of non-Muslims in various states of Malaysia.]
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[Sep 17, 08]
Muslim convicted of Bosnia war abuse. [Mates of beheaded man forced to kiss the head.]
Muslim convicted of Bosnia war abuse
[Rasim Delic]
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 44, Wednesday, September 17, 2008
THE HAGUE – The Yugoslav war crimes tribunal has convicted a former commander of the Bosnian Muslim army of cruelty towards Bosnian Serb prisoners, who were forced to kiss the severed head of a fellow prisoner, but acquitted him of murder.
Gen. Rasim Delic was sentenced to three years in prison for responsibility for Islamic volunteers under his command who abused captured Bosnian Serbs in the summer of 1995.
Delic, a former commander of the main staff of the Bosnian army, is the most senior Bosnian Muslim officer convicted by the court in its 15-year history. Most of the 161 indictments handed down have been against Serbs.
[Picture] Crunch time: Former army chief Rasim Delic enters court. Picture: Reuters
The judges ruled that Delic was the commander of a detachment of
foreign Islamic fighters known as mujahideen who in mid-1995 imprisoned 12 Bosnian Serbs at a makeshift camp in central Bosnia.
The captured soldiers were subjected to beatings, electric shocks and other forms of maltreatment, the court said in a summary of its judgment.
In one gruesome incident, "the head of Gojko Vujicic was severed and placed on his stomach. Later, the detainees were forced to kiss the severed head."
Sentencing Delic, presiding judge Bakone Moloto said the trial
chamber "recalled the appallingly brutal nature of the acts of mistreatment against the 12 (Bosnian Serb) soldiers" but also took into account the fact that Delic was found to have had only "imputed knowledge of these crimes".
Nonetheless, he had failed to prevent the abuse or punish those who committed it.
The judges also said they took into account the fact that Delic helped negotiate several peace deals, including the Dayton accord that ended the Bosnian war. #
[RECAPITULATION: … the head of Gojko Vujicic was severed and placed on his stomach. ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Only following Heaven's orders, your Worship! COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
2:193 (or 2:189):- … Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #193>
8:12:- … I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura8.html #12>
47:4:- When ye encounter the infidels,
strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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[Sep 17, 08]
Pakistan orders forces to fire on US intruders.
Pakistan orders forces to fire on US intruders
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 12, Thursday, September 18, 2008
ISLAMABAD – The Pakistani army has issued orders to open fire on US troops if they cross over the Afghanistan border.
The order will see relations between the US and Pakistan, a key ally in its war against terrorism, deteriorate further.
Tension between the two allies erupted last week after helicopters ferried US commandos across the border from Afghanistan for a bloody ground assault on Pakistani soil.
It was the first known incursion by US troops into Pakistan since the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. US officials claimed the raid accounted for over 20 al-Qaida fighters. Pakistan insisted 20 civilians, including women and children, were killed.
A Pakistani army spokesman, Maj-Gen. Athar Abbas, said that the military high command had instructed its field commanders to prevent any similar raids.
He said if it was clear that troops had crossed the ill-defined border into Pakistani territory and, on the ground or in the air, troops should "open fire".
"No incursion is to be tolerated," he said.
The US raid stirred residual anti-American sentiment in Pakistan, prompted fears that similar future operations could destabilise the newly elected civilian government and was a source of humiliation for Pakistani armed forces.
The US has grown increasingly frustrated with Pakistan's inability or unwillingness to tackle Taliban and terrorist sanctuaries in its lawless, border tribal areas.
Pakistani officials have issued sharp protests to Washington as President Asif Ali Zardari met British Prime Minister Gordon Brown in London. Officials said the leaders were due to discuss the commando raid and America's new military strategy for dealing with the tribal areas.
Mr Zardari, the widower of the assassinated former prime minister Benazir Bhutto, is on a visit to Britain for his daughter Bakhtawar's admission to the University of Edinburgh.
The New York Times newspaper reported that US President George Bush secretly approved orders in July allowing such ground assaults without Pakistan's approval.
Pakistani ambassador in Washington, Hussain Haqqani, said such assaults would achieve nothing "except opposition of the masses". Army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani called it "reckless" and vowed to protect Pakistan's sovereignty "at all cost".
Pakistani security officials claimed this week that firing by Pakistani troops and tribesmen had forced two US military helicopters to turn back to Afghanistan. US and Pakistani military officials denied the incident.
American operated drone aircraft, which have staged at least a dozen missile attacks on Pakistani soil this year, flew over the North Waziristan region on Monday night and Tuesday morning but did not fire. #
[RECAPITULATION: The US has grown increasingly frustrated with Pakistan's inability or unwillingness to tackle Taliban and terrorist sanctuaries in its lawless, border tribal areas.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: During the British Raj over the Indian sub-continent, they could not permanently quieten down the tribal areas of the North-West Frontier. Why would the BLUSH Administration think the Pakistani authorities could do better? Ignorance, sheer ignorance, and stupidity.
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[1st, Sep 18, 08]
High toll in attack on US embassy
High toll in attack on US embassy
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 12, Thursday, September 18, 2008
SANAA – Sixteen people were killed yesterday when Islamic militants attacked the US embassy in the Yemeni capital Sanaa with a car bomb and rocket propelled grenades, in the second strike on the high-security compound in six months.
The dead were six Yemeni soldiers, four civilians, including an Indian, and six attackers, the Interior Ministry said.
Witnesses said gunmen raked a Yemeni police detachment outside the heavily fortified embassy compound before a suicide bomber blew up a car at the entrance, setting off what one described as a fireball.
A series of explosions followed as the compound came under fire from rocket grenades and small arms.
A group calling itself Islamic Jihad in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attack and threatened to carry out similar strikes against the embassies of Britain, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates in the Yemeni capital.
Briton Trev Mason told CNN from Sanaa that he heard at least three big explosions around the embassy from his nearby residential compound.
"We heard the sounds of a heavy gunbattle going on," Mr Mason said.
"I looked out of my window and we saw the first explosion going off, a massive fireball very close to the US embassy. The gunbattle went on for a further 10 to 15 minutes followed by two further loud explosions."
[Picture] Blast: Smoke billows outside the US embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, yesterday after the attack. Picture: Yemen News Agency / Reuters
After a rocket attack on a residential compound used by US oilmen in April, the US State Department ordered the evacuation of non-essential diplomatic staff. However, the order was lifted last month.
In March, a schoolgirl and a policeman were killed and 19 people wounded in mortar fire that US diplomats said was aimed at the embassy.
In recent years, militants have carried out a string of attacks in Yemen, the ancestral homeland of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden and one of the poorest countries in the world.
In October 2000, al-Qaida killed 17 US sailors when it attacked the USS Cole off the southern port of Aden, using a small boat packed with explosives to blow a hole in the side of the vessel. It also bombed the French-flagged oil tanker Limberg in 2002.
Last year, a suicide bomber killed at least nine people in an attack on Spanish tourists. Two Belgian tourists were killed in an attack blamed on al-Qaida in January and in May a bomb blast at a mosque killed 18 people.
Yemen is awash with weapons, with roughly three firearms for every citizen, and has become a focus of the US "war against terror". Last month, Yemeni security forces said they had arrested 30 suspected al-Qaida members and dismantled an extremist cell in the eastern part of the country. #
[RECAPITULATION: … Islamic militants attacked the US embassy in the Yemeni capital Sanaa …
[COMMENT: Yes, not even the capital city is safe from wickedness. ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION: … in May a bomb blast at a mosque killed 18 people. ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Nothing is sacred to terrorists, even if they are chanting Allahu Akhbar three times as they murder. They even have a theological excuse ready if they kill a friendly non-hypocrite fellow Muslim -- he will go straight to Paradise! And the killer/s have no guilt! If they die in the attempt, off to Paradise!
ENDS.]
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[2nd, Sep 18, 08]
TV footage of Australian kidnapped in Somalia.
[Ransom demanded]
TV footage of Australian kidnapped in Somalia
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 12, Thursday, September 18, 2008
[Picture] Nigel Brennan
CANBERRA – Footage of Australian journalist Nigel Brennan and a Canadian companion kidnapped in Somalia has been shown on Al Jazeera television.
The broadcaster said the pair had urged their governments to do all they could to secure their release.
Mr Brennan, 35, Canadian journalist Amanda Lindhout, 27, and their translator and guide, Somali reporter Abdifatah Mohammed Elmi, were kidnapped at gunpoint on August 23 just outside the Somali capital, Mogadishu. They are believed to have been abducted after interviewing and taking photos in a refugee camp.
The footage, aired yesterday, showed Mr Brennan and Ms Lindhout with armed men. Ms Lindhout could be seen speaking but the audio of the track was not aired.
The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said the footage was being investigated." Australian Federal Police and extra diplomatic staff have been sent to Somalia to investigate the kidnappings.
The kidnappers, calling themselves^ the Mujahideen of Somalia, accused Australia and Canada of helping to destroy Somalia and demanded an end to such policies, Al Jazeera said.
Dahir Farah, a traditional chief in contact with the kidnappers, said this month that the kidnappers were demanding a $3.08 million ransom.
Another person claiming to be an intermediary for the kidnappers spoke of the same ransom demand. He also allowed two people claiming to be the foreign journalists to speak.
A man claiming to be Mr Brennan said: "We are very well now, mentally and physically."
Kidnappings occur frequently in Somalia, a country torn apart by unrest since 1991. Two Italian aid workers kidnapped near Mogadishu were freed on August 5 after being held for more than two months. #
[COMMENT: Capturing people and demanding ransom is all part of the culture, and sanctioned by holy writ!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7):- When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters. And afterwards let there either be free dismissals or ransomings, till the war hath laid down its burdens. …
But those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will
… admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them.
<www. submission. org/suras/ sura47. html#4>
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Keep reading the same paper, where a correspondent writes "… the religion of Islam, … teaches peace, tolerance, respect and balance in all aspects of life." ENDS.]
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[3rd at right, Sep 18, 08]
Islam has been hijacked; Send them back.
Islam has been hijacked; Send them back
The West Australian,
Letters to The Editor, p 22, Thursday, September 18, 2008
Islam has been hijacked
I wish to comment on the terrorist plots disclosed in your report (Cleric guilty of plot to bomb MCG grand final, 16/9) about the six Islamists convicted in Australia's biggest terror trial in Melbourne.
I am a Muslim and I am fed up with these fanatics who have hijacked my religion. As you may be aware, the word Muslim actually means peace, although in today's media it may be the last thing that is associated with the religion.
These terrorists have completely failed to integrate into Australian society. They are so poor of mind that they wish to punish innocent Australians because of a decision that the Government made, a decision that most Australians actually disagree with anyway.
These terrorists stupidly believe they are helping the cause of Islam by blowing up innocent people (some of the victims may even be Muslim, they wouldn't know due to the random nature of bomb attacks). In fact, they are creating hatred and a deep-rooted fear of Muslim people in general.
These terrorists have lived off the Australian taxpayers, enjoying privileges not available in their own countries. They are generally uneducated "backward" types who have no literacy skills or viable employment.
They are happy to accept money and an enjoyable lifestyle, along with health-care benefits, and all the trimmings of the wonderful life available in Australia, and all the while they are planning an extreme attack on the country and the people.
I want to express my disgust and anger at the Muslim Council of Australia for not publicly condemning these actions. I also wish to personally apologise to the people of Australia for the actions of these people.
These people who have been convicted do not represent Muslims or the religion of Islam, which teaches peace, tolerance, respect and balance in all aspects of life.
I recommend that they serve a full jail sentence in Australia and are then sent back to wherever they come from, so they may enjoy the comforts and freedoms of their own home countries.
H. Ismail, Belmont.
Send them back
I was privileged to attend the AFL grand final in 2005. My wife and daughter were with me.
It sickened me to hear that six Islamists had concocted a plan to kill people who attended the event. We can be very thankful they did not proceed with their plan due to ASIO raids and lack of funding.
The perpetrators said that Australia was a land of war and it was the duty of all Muslims to engage in violent jihad. How on Earth do we allow these people to enter Australia and welcome them with open arms to embrace our beautiful country when all they want to do is to blow us to smithereens?
They should be deported immediately, together with any of their fellow Muslims who hold similar beliefs to these imbeciles.
I call on the Government to cease all immigration entry of Muslims to this country and to assess those already in Australia to confirm they will do their utmost to assimilate with the Australian way of life. If they cannot give this assurance, then give them a one-way ticket back to where they came from.
I have no problem with their religious beliefs but when they wish to impose their jihad on the Australian public then send them packing. Let's call it a day and cancel any further Muslim entry to our country before we go down the same path as England.
These people have to be reminded they have been granted immigration status to become good citizens of our great nation.
I have many friends of ethnic persuasion who love the Australian people and the Aussie way of life, but these people are not prepared to do that.
We are far too soft and we must act now before it becomes irreversible.
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#islam_has_been_hijacked
[Sep 18, 08]
Islam means submission, not peace.
Islam means submission, not peace
The West Australian,
Letter sent to The Editor, Thursday, September 18, 2008
Your correspondent says Islam means peace and teaches tolerance, respect, and balance ("Islam has been hijacked," 18/9), and says he is a Muslim, but on the positive side asks that those found guilty of the Australian bomb plots be deported.
"Islam" does not mean peace, it means submission, according to Arabic dictionaries and learned scholars, and "Muslim" means a person who submits.
In the news we read that the United States embassy in Yemen was attacked, killing six Yemeni soldiers and four civilians including an Indian, at the cost of six of the attackers ("High toll in attack on US embassy," 18/9). Not too much peace and tolerance there to several Muslims, in an attack claimed by Islamic Jihad in Yemen.
In Britain on September 1 Channel 4 telecast "Undercover Mosque: The Return" in which a woman preached to women that certain sinners must be killed, and the male preachers talked of taking over the whole country, bringing in outside warriors if necessary. It's on You Tube, starting at
http://www. youtube. com/watch ?v=NOIYkL WY4F c&NR=1
Supposedly Islamic submission is to their god Allah, but in reality it is to the self-appointed leaders, that is, to the ones who can stay alive in their violent culture.
All other religions are ordered to submit, as Mohammed wrote to the leaders of the Persian empire (which fell first) and Byzantium (lasted centuries longer).
Raiding parties kept attacking until the Muslim empire stretched from part of France to part of China, across Africa, Sicily, Malta, and Indonesia.
Regular attacks on non-Muslims in Sudan continue to this day, and outbreaks occur in other countries.
Islamists quote the Koran 2:193 "Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left"
www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #193 , and 8:39 (or 8:40) "Make war on them until strife shall be at an end, and the religion be all of it Allah's"
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html#008.039 .
They quote many similar texts in the Koran and the Hadith stories too. #
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
9:123 (or 9:124):- O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7):- When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's 6, 60:139:- Narrated Abdullah: We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet …
Bukhari's, 6, 60:250:-
[***] They found boys playing and Al-Khadir got hold of a handsome infidel boy laid him down and then slew him with a knife. [***]
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/060. sbt.html# 006.060.250 >
Sahih Muslim's 19:4450:-
[…] When we and the people of Mecca had concluded a peace treaty
…
I drew my sword and attacked these four while they were asleep. [ … ]
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[Sent Sep 18, 08]
Pakistan bomb kills 53, shreds President's vow to fight terror.
Pakistan bomb kills 53, shreds President’s vow to fight terror
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
Pages One and Six, Monday, September 22, 2008
Suspected Islamic terrorists have carried out a stunning attack in Pakistan's capital, detonating a 600kg truck bomb outside Islamabad's elite Marriort Hotel. The attack killed 53 people and injured 266. Pakistani President Asif All Zardari vowed to rid his country of the
‘cancer’ of terrorism.
[Picture of damaged hotel and street] Picture: Reuters
Pakistani leader promises to rid his country of the ‘cancer’ of terrorism in wake of hotel suicide bombing that killed 53
‘These cowards will not deter us’
ISLAMABAD – New Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari has vowed to rid the country of the "cancer" of terrorism in the aftermath of a massive suicide bomb attack that destroyed a major hotel, killing 53 people and wounding more than 260.
In what was one of the deadliest attacks in a bloody campaign by Islamic militants in Pakistan, a truck bomb exploded outside Islamabad's Marriott Hotel on Saturday night.
Investigators said the bomb had been made of 600kg of high intensity explosives.
There were fears more dead would be found in the wreckage of the hotel, a popular gathering place for foreigners and Pakistan's elite which was almost totally destroyed by the attack.
Officials said they feared the building, which burned through the night after the blast ruptured a gas pipeline, would collapse. A security official said many people leapt to their deaths from upper floors.
The bombing came shortly after Mr Zardari, who faces a desperate struggle against al-Qaida and Taliban militants, delivered his inaugural address to parliament just a few hundred metres away.
"Terrorism is a cancer in Pakistan, we are determined, God willing, we will rid the country of this cancer," Mr Zardari said in a televised address to the nation after the blast. "We will not be deterred by these cowards.
"Pakistanis are brave and fearless people – they are not afraid of death," said Mr Zardari, the widower of late opposition leader Benazir Bhutto who was assassinated by suspected Islamic militants in December.
In his parliamentary address, Mr Zardari had promised to "root out terrorism and extremism wherever and whenever they may rear their ugly heads".
The attack was a chilling warning that Pakistani insurgents can strike almost anywhere and underscored the scale of the terrorist challenge facing nuclear-armed Pakistan.
No one has yet claimed responsibility for the Marriott bomb but the Pakistan Taliban based in the tribal areas along the Afghan border is believed to be behind the attack.
[Picture] Carnage: Soldiers and investigators examine a crater 18m wide and 7m deep caused by the bomb blast outside the Marriott Hotel. Picture: Reuters
Mr Zardari, who heads the first democratic government in Pakistan for a decade, is under intense pressure to deliver on his repeated vows to confront Pakistan's growing insurgency. The fragile governing coalition is also grappling with economic problems, including rampant inflation, which is sapping its public support.
Mr Zardari also faces strained relations with the US after it launched several cross-border raids from Afghanistan into Pakistan's tribal areas in search of Islamic militants.
After the strikes by the US-led coalition based in Afghanistan, he told a joint session of parliament that Pakistan would "not tolerate the violation of our sovereignty and territorial integrity by any power in the name of combating terrorism".
The Marriott attack appeared to be timed to cause the maximum number of casualties, coming as the hotel was thronged with families holding their evening meal to break the daily Ramadan fast.
Rescuers have tried to search the hotel's smouldering remains but were forced to retreat amid fears part of the building could collapse.
Witness Mohammad Jamil said the truck had exploded just outside the heavily secured hotel gates. The force of the blast sent the truck flying into the air and had knocked him over on to the street
"For a few seconds I was in shock and did not know what had happened. Then I remembered the deafening noise," he said.
The blast, so powerful it was heard for kilometres, blew an enormous crater in the ground and destroyed the outside wall of the compound. Buildings several kilometres away had windows blown out from the impact.
Hospital officials said a US national was among the dead. The Czech Government said its ambassador had been killed and the Danish Government said a diplomat was missing.
The Pakistan Government had received word two days ago of a possible attack near the parliamentary offices, Interior Ministry official Rehman Malik said.
US President George Bush condemned the Marriott attack, which he said "is a reminder of the ongoing threat faced by Pakistan, the United States and all those who stand against violent extremism". In Britain, Foreign Secretary David Miliband said the bombing had strengthened the resolve to fight militancy.
[RECAPITULATION: – Mr Zardari had promised to "root out terrorism and extremism wherever and whenever they may rear their ugly heads".
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: But, the name of the country's capital alone gives the clue that it favours terrorism and extremism. Did the religion of Islam travel hundreds of kilometres from Arabia by people who sang hymns and wafted incense? Or do history books tell us of long marches, sieges, sackings, murders, battles, and so on? The Koran and Hadith are insistent that "holy" warriors do not fear death, and that the next life for them will be far superior to life on earth.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
22:19 (or 22:20):- … But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them …
< www. submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[ALSO READ: "Pakistan bomb shows grave terrorism threat: Smith," page 6, same issue. CANBERRA: The Marriott Hotel bombing was another reminder of the grave terrorist threat that still existed, [Australian] Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith said yesterday. […]
ENDS.]
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[Sep 22, 08]
[Plea to peace-lovers, why stay, execute Bali bombers; In short.]
IN SHORT
[Plea to peace-lovers, why stay, execute Bali bombers.]
The West Australian,
Letters to The Editor, p 22, Monday, September 22, 2008
[Peace-lovers must stand up.]
As a white, Anglo-Saxon Muslim architect who lived and worked for 25 years in Indonesia, the world's biggest Muslim nation, I would like to write in support of H. Ismail (Islam has been hijacked, 18/9).
The great majority of Muslims in Indonesia and many other countries condemn the Islamist terrorists. The fact that the Ball bombers are due to be executed, after the Ramadan fasting month ends, proves this.
However, I agree with Mr Ismail: we peace-loving Muslims must stand up to the very small minority of extremists who aim to take over Islam and kill innocent people.
[Why come if they don't want peace?]
May I congratulate H. Ismail on an excellent letter. We in this country enjoy our freedoms and it is imbeciles like those convicted in Melbourne that tarnish your religion as a whole.
It is to be expected that paranoia abounds with the daily carnage occurring in Islamic countries, why are they here if they do not wish to live in peace?
So to assist the wider public's perception the Islamic Council needs to publicly acknowledge the problem, dob in these mongrels, ostracise them from the Islamic community and publicly out them from the good Muslims who live among us.
[Bali bombers don't deserve to live.]
So, the Bali bombers say that a firing squad is inhumane and torturous do they? Why is the Indonesian Government even entertaining their appeal?
These three condemned prisoners who are no more than human filth do not deserve the right to question how and when they should be executed. They lost all their rights the second the first victim of the bombings died.
They say that a firing squad is not a humane way to die, good, let them die slowly and painfully and if the Indonesian Government is too pathetic and soft to carry out the executions, give me a call I'll do it for free. To all the people reading this who think I am callous and cold, that may be but these animals don't deserve our pity.
May they burn in whatever hell they believe in.
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
5:10 (or 5:13):- … Those who reject faith and deny Our Signs will be Companions of Hell-fire.
9:123 (or 9:124):- O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
33:60:- If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbours in it but for a little while.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The first of these letters says "we peace-loving Muslims must stand up" but it was published in the same issue as the Marriott Hotel bombings. The author did NOT quote the Koran's orders to Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left. (Koran 2:193, or 2:189)
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[September 22, 2008]
[Conflicting views on the items about Islam.]
[Conflicting views on the items about Islam.]
Annals Australasia,
annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
Letters to The Editor, p 10, September 2008
Permeated by Pellism
I have long subscribed to
Annals and will continue for this year at least. But I almost didn't.
Much of your magazine has been stimulating and informative, especially on historical and cultural aspects relating to Catholic tradition.
However recent years have seen a progressively conservative tone and an increased obsession with denouncing all things Moslem. You seem to find the most extreme quotes and tidbits of news to inflame fear, suspicion and division.
I'd like to think the post-Howard Australia has become more accommodating. There is a grimness and dourness about your publication that is almost unrelieved - a Pellism that permeates its pages.
Your correspondent James Murray also is a concern. He has little to say, in spite of all his column space. His film reviews are a throw-back to the 1950s. I'm expecting an 'advised against' listing soon.
There, I thought I'd get it all off my chest.
Emu Plains NSW 2750 P. B. R
YAN
[Our correspondent finds Annals too conservative. We endeavour to keep it middle-of-the-road, avoiding extremes of the left or the right. Does he really believe that it is the job of a Catholic magazine (or a Catholic priest) to set about modernising and redesigning the Church, as someone might modernise and redesign a car or a kitchen? Or to encourage our readers to bury their heads in the oil-rich sand of political correctness?
Incidentally, we have never 'denounc[ed] all things Moslem' nor are we aware of having 'inflam[ed] fear, suspicion or division'. We have attempted to throw light on Islam to help Muslims and non-Muslims cope with the overwhelming mass of half-truths generated by Islamist PR machines, and spread abroad by undiscriminating media whose ignorance of Islam is surpassed only by their ignorance of Catholicism. This is sometimes a thankless task. But it is necessary.
Ed. James Murray writes: I have placed P.B. Ryan's comments in my trophy cabinet in the spot I had reserved for a 'Walkley Award'.]
The One God?
Congratulation on the quality of
Annals. You have made some perceptive and much needed, comments on Islam.
I was interested in your letter in the
The Catholic Weekly a couple of months ago in which you pointed out the defective English translation 'the one God,' instead of 'one God.'
Melbourne Vic 3000 J
OHN Y
OUNG
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[September 2008]
• [Introducing an Alliance of Patriots]
[Introducing an Alliance of Patriots]
Unknown publisher,
by Geert Wilders, September 25, 2008
Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman of the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands. He made a presentation at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem.
The speech was sponsored by the Hudson Institute on September 25, 2008.
Dear friends,
Thank you very much for inviting me.
I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.
First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.
The Europe you know is changing.
You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.
All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.
There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than thereare in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.
Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden.In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.
In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.
Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.
In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.
In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system..Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.
Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.
A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.
Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.
The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.
Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies, they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.
Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.
The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.
Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.
Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran.The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.
This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.
The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.
Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything.
So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing.The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.
Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so. #
[SPEAKER: Geert Wilders is a Dutch Member of Parliament. ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: M.S.]
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[To webpage 24 Aug 09. Sep 25, 08]
B.C. Human Rights Commission rejects Muslim complaint over Maclean's article.
B.C. Human Rights Commission rejects Muslim complaint over Maclean’s article
The Canadian Press,
http:// canadianpress. google.com/ article/ ALeqM5jCtB1 QmO512Twsb8 EofF9IVA_28Q ,
October 11, 2008
VANCOUVER – The B.C. Human Rights Commission has rejected a human rights complaint against Maclean's magazine that claimed an article about Islam violated anti-hate laws.
In a ruling released Friday, the commission found the article by Mark Steyn did not violate anti-hate laws or raise hatred against Muslims.
It's the third time the complaint by members of the Canadian Islamic Congress has been dismissed by a human rights commission in Canada.
The October 2006 article, called "The Future Belongs to Islam," discusses the global ambitions of young Muslims and suggests the West doesn't have the will to withstand the challenge.
In the B.C. complaint, the Islamic Congress claimed the writing suggests Muslims pose a threat to Western society, to democracy and human rights - a violation of the B.C. Human Rights Code.
In a ruling released Friday, the provincial human rights panel dismissed the claim.
The article may have been "hurtful and distasteful" to some, the commission tribunal found.
But "read in its context, the article is essentially an expression of opinion on political issues which, in light of recent historical events involving extremist Muslims and the problems facing the vast majority of the Muslim community that does not support extremism, are legitimate subjects for public discussion," it found.
"The article may attempt to rally public opinion by exaggeration and causing the reader to fear Muslims, but fear is not synonymous with hatred and contempt."
In June, the Canadian Human Rights Commission rejected the same complaint against Maclean's, saying the views expressed weren't extreme, and a similar complaint filed with the Ontario Human Rights Commission failed when it ruled it didn't have jurisdiction to hear it.
The B.C. tribunal did find that the article by Steyn "contains historical, religious and factual inaccuracies" and used common Muslim stereotypes.
And the responses it elicited online were often "disturbing to read," said the decision.
But despite "all its inaccuracies and hyperbole," the article resulted in political debate that hate laws were never intended to suppress, it said.
"In fact, as the evidence in this case amply demonstrates, the debate has not been suppressed and the concerns about the impact of hate speech silencing a minority have not been borne out," the tribunal found.
The article, an excerpt from Steyn's book "America Alone," discusses the global ambitions of a growing number of Muslim youth and suggests the West "lacks the will to rebuff those who would supplant it."
"The article explicitly and implicitly states the influx and presence of Muslims in Western societies poses a threat to Western society, to democracy, to human rights, and to peace and order due to their religious identity and beliefs as Muslims," the complainants said in their submission to the tribunal.
Maclean's did not call any evidence at the tribunal hearing. In a written response, the magazine called the article "fair comment on a subject of public interest." #
[RECAPITULATION: In June, the Canadian Human Rights Commission rejected the same complaint against Maclean's, saying the views expressed weren't extreme, and a similar complaint filed with the Ontario Human Rights Commission failed when it ruled it didn't have jurisdiction to hear it.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Canada's human rights community seems to have a healthier attitude to free speech and defence of a terror-free society than some in other "democracies." The book was published in October 2006.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah): Strike off the heads of the disbelievers. DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[ALSO SEE: "B.C. Human Rights Tribunal may never live down embarrassing Steyn fiasco;
Panel's hearing over Maclean's article was an affront to free speech and a waste of public resources and time," by Ian Mulgrew, Vancouver Sun, Published: Monday, October 13, 2008.
ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Religion News Blog
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#bc_human_rights
[Oct 11, 08]
Terror preacher out by Christmas reveals the Sunday Mercury
Terror preacher out by Christmas reveals the Sunday Mercury
The Sunday Mercury,
http://www. sundaymercury. net/news/ midlands-news/ 2008/10/11/ terror- preacher- out-by- christmas- reveals-the- sunday- mercury- 66331- 22014473/ ,
Exclusive by Ben Goldby, Oct 11, 2008
BRITAIN – A TERROR preacher convicted of raising funds for suicide bombers could be free by Christmas, the Sunday Mercury has learned.
An appeal by lawyers for Muslim cleric Abu Izzadeen, who was caged in April for a string of violent jihadi rants, casts doubt on crucial evidence filmed at a community centre in Small Heath, Birmingham, and at mosques in London.
Izzadeen, 32, whose real name is Omar Brooks, was convicted of terrorist fund-raising and inciting terrorism overseas after jurors at Kingston Crown Court were shown video clips of extremist speeches.
He was jailed for four-and-a-half years.
Today, the Sunday Mercury can reveal that the authorities were alerted as early as November 2005 to images of Izzadeen calling for jihad and holding bile-filled lectures.
The clips from his rants in Small Heath were handed over in July 2006, but the hate preacher was not arrested until April 2007. The Birmingham videos formed the evidence for his arrest, but were not shown in court.
A source close to the law firm acting for Izzadeen, Ahmed and Co, outlined the significance of the Metropolitan Police's decision not to follow up on footage of the Birmingham hate speeches earlier.
"The concern that we have is that these videos were in the possession of the police for a long time," he said.
"The prosecution did convince a judge that they had to do work on the footage and that is why it took so long from the first reports of these speeches to the arrest and charge of Mr Brooks.
"We're concerned that they had it for this long. If it was that sinister surely they would have launched an inquiry earlier?
"The appeal will ask why there was such a gap between this material being submitted and him being taken in for questioning. We will also present fresh evidence."
Izzadeen is currently being held on the Isle of Wight at maximum-security Parkhurst Prison, referred to by inmates as Britain's Guantanamo Bay.
The appeal against his conviction could cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of pounds as the authorities defend their tactics in gathering information.
Videos handed to the Sunday Mercury show the radical Islamist preacher laughing at the victims of terrorist attacks, and warning that Britain faced more death and destruction unless our troops left Muslim lands.
In the exclusive clips, filmed in 2006 just days before the first anniversary of the 7/7 tube bombings, Izzadeen tells supporters at a community centre in Small Heath to listen to the words of plot ringleader Mohammed Siddique Khan.
He says: "If we take the time to read Mohammed Siddique Khan's will we can see the answer for our problems. If you stop (the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq), you will be saved, if you don't stop we're going to kill you … indiscriminately.
"Now you take the bus, you take the train, you could be the next target, you could be burned alive. Are you prepared to die?"
Last night, a security investigator who alerted police to the terror preacher's rants said he is worried that anti-terror cops do not pay enough attention when contacted by members of the public.
He told the Sunday Mercury: "I rang the anti-terrorism hotline in November 2005 in relation to a number of videos downloaded from a password-protected website.
"In July 2006 a number of people alerted police to videos taken at a community centre in Small Heath, Birmingham, after I posted them across the web to raise awareness.
"I was led to believe that the evidence would be followed up and I also forwarded emails containing links to the videos to MI5.
"The police had films from a London Mosque in November 2005 and never acted. The Birmingham videos were handed to detectives in July 2006, but Izzadeen was not arrested until April 2007.
"I believe the police should act on information given to them by the public. If this appeal is successful it could have a massive impact on how anti-terror operations are conducted."
A spokeswoman for the Metropolitan Police, the force that led the initial investigation into Izzadeen, refused to comment on the appeal. #
[RECAPITULATION: If you stop (the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq), you will be saved, if you don't stop we're going to kill you … indiscriminately.
ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah): Kill them wherever you find them. … Fight until no other religion is left except Allah's.
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Another police force in Britain, seeing Channel 4's footage of people preaching hatred and calling for the dismantling of democracy in Britain, sued the television people (unsuccessfully), but have not yet prosecuted the preachers ! "Political correctness," or "Suicidal Death Wish" ? Much of the hate material emanating from the Saudi Arabian millionaire Osam Bin Laden comes from Afghanistan, or so we are told.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: ReligionNewsBlog e-mail of Oct 14, 2008.
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#terror_preacher_out
[Oct 11, 08]
Iraqi Christians flee Mosul as Islamic extremists launch campaign against them: "We left everything behind us. We took only our souls."
Iraqi Christians flee Mosul as Islamic extremists launch campaign against them: ‘We left everything behind us. We took only our souls.’
Barnabas Fund (Britain),
http://www. barnabasfund. org/News/ archives/ text.php? ID_news_ items=427 ,
October 13, 2008
IRAQ –
Thousands of Iraqi Christians have fled the city of Mosul in northern Iraq over the past week after Sunni Muslim extremists launched a deadly campaign to remove the Christian community from the city. "We left everything behind us. We took only our souls," said Ni'ma Noail (50), a civil servant who had to abandon his home in Mosul and is now living in a church.
At least seven Christians were murdered between 4 and 8 October, killed execution-style by gunmen. Other estimates suggest the number of Christians killed is as high as 25 or even 40. Christian houses have been blown up, and at least 744 Christian families (approximately 3,750 people) have left their homes to find refuge with relatives or in churches and Christian centres in seven towns and villages to the north and east of Mosul. Some are sleeping in their cars. They are in desperate need of food, clothes, bedding, items for personal hygiene and other basic necessities.
Leaflets have been distributed in Mosul, threatening Christians with death unless they convert to Islam or pay the Islamic jizya tax that marks them as second-class citizens. The leaflets, which are an effective tactic used before in Baghdad and elsewhere, have been condemned by the Association of Muslim Scholars in Iraq. One source reports that last Thursday, 9 October, extremists drove around the Mosul neighbourhood of Sukkar, shouting through a loudspeaker that Christians would be attacked unless they left the city.
Northern Iraq is the historic centre of Christianity in Iraq. Many Christians from Baghdad and Basra had fled to the north for safety in recent years. The estimated Christian population of Mosul is now 50,000.
It is believed that the extremists behind the campaign are linked to al-Qaeda. The attacks follow on the heels of another blow to the Christian community when Parliament agreed on 24 September to remove Article 50 from the Provincial Election Law. The Article had guaranteed a specific number of seats for minorities, including Christians, on the Regional Councils (see previous article).
Dr Patrick Sookhdeo, International Director of Barnabas Fund, comments:
"The situation in Iraq is extremely grave. Sunni Muslim extremists are moving north, now that they have successfully managed to intimidate and drive out most of the Christians from the cities of Basra in the south and Baghdad in the centre of Iraq. I appeal to the Iraqi government and the US army to intervene urgently to prevent the elimination of the indigenous Christian community of Iraq. I also appeal to Christians around the world to help meet the practical needs of their Iraqi brothers and sisters at this time through the ministry of Barnabas Fund."
Please help our brothers and sisters in Iraq:
Barnabas Fund is helping to provide practical aid such as food and blankets to Iraqi Christian families who had to flee their homes for fear of their lives in this recent Islamist campaign to drive out the Christian community from Iraq.
If you can help us to support our Iraqi brothers and sisters at this difficult time please click this {Link} to donate online using our secure server. (Please quote project reference 20-227.)
If you prefer to telephone, dial: 0800 587 4006 from within the UK or +44 1672 565031 from outside the UK. (Please quote project reference 20-227.)
If you prefer to send a cheque by post: Click this {link} for addresses of our regional offices. (Please quote project reference 20-227.)
Please Pray
Pray for God's protection over the Christian community in Iraq, and particularly in Mosul. Pray that the Lord will comfort them, and give them the grace to forgive their persecutors. Pray also that help will reach those in need quickly.
Pray that the citizens of Mosul will stand up together against the Islamist groups responsible for the atrocities. Pray that Iraqi and US forces will intervene quickly and decisively, putting an end to the Islamist campaign to drive out the Christian community from Mosul or indeed from the whole of Iraq. Pray that the international community and media will start taking note of the very real danger Iraqi Christians are facing in their homeland. #
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
2:193 (or 2:189):- … Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #193>
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#iraqi_christians_flee
[Oct 13, 08]
The truth is harder than comfortable fables.
The truth is harder than comfortable fables
Letter sent to
Annals Australasia,
annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
from Informed Source, October 17, 2008
It was deflating to read the letter from P.B.Ryan "Permeated by Pellism"
(
Annals Sep 2008), because I thought I had previously squelched a similar letter opposing the exposure of Islam, whether we think of it as the Moslem resurgence or Mohammedans versus Christianity.
Your correspondent calls your enlightening work finding "the most extreme quotes and tidbits of news". If readers really scoured their daily press, they would find more than the
Annals publishes.
For example, on September 17 this year
The West Australian reported Saudi Sheikh M. Munajid saying that all mice were Satan's soldiers, including Mickey Mouse and the Tom and Jerry cartoons. (page 14) It was wrong to let children see such cartoon characters, he said.
A Melbourne jury had found Amer Haddar, a seventh defendant, guilty of being a member of a terrorist organisation, and was deadlocked over Shane Kent. The group had talked of blowing up the grand final football crowd at the Melbourne Cricket Ground. (also p 14).
A correspondent asked if everyone had gone mad, because Britain had decided that the restrictive Muslim sharia law was to be enforceable in marriage, divorce, and domestic violence. (p 23)
In Somalia the French army rescued a French couple who had been held hostage by Somali pirates for two weeks. They had been taken to Bargal village in the semi-autonomous region of Puntland. (Notice that no Muslim army came to their rescue). (p 40)
Lebanese rival factions began peace talks, with the main item being the issue of Hizbollah militia having armaments, against the country's laws. (p 40).
At The Hague, the war crimes tribunal imposed three years prison on General Rasim Delic, former head of the Bosnian Muslim militia, for allowing cruelty to Bosnian Serb prisoners. One prisoner in one group had been beheaded, and the rest had been ordered to kiss the severed head. (p 44).
Now, these are the day-to-day reports of what is going on as the Islamists have dusted off the Koran, the Hadith, and their other bloodthirsty books, and put them into practice.
In October, the convicted sheikh who had taught some of the Bali bombers to blow up the tourists AND the workers, stated that if the three murderers now under sentence of death were executed they would enjoy more than usual delights in paradise. Previously the murderers had warned that if they were killed Indonesia would suffer more terrorist revenge. Yes,
"Eye for eye, tooth for tooth" is in the Koran, too.
Your readers ought to check a good historical atlas, and note that from about 610 AD Mohammed started dictating the Koran. Within a few years Muslim armies were conquering the mini-nations that occupied the Arabian peninsula, and then were attacking further afield, even seizing the Holy Land and Egypt from the Christian Empire based on Constantinople. From France to India they went their way sprinkling blood, not holy water !
These Muslim armies inflamed fear, suspicion and division among their neighbours. Centuries later the Ottoman Turk Muslims used to kidnap children from Christian areas they had conquered, brought them up as Muslims, and then used them -- the Janissaries -- in warfare against Christians and others.
Keep up the good work of giving us news about persecutions and dominance, whether from Muslims, Hindus in northern India, the Chinese Communists, the anti-religious people in Western lands, or whoever. And please keep quoting the literature of these wrong teachings so we can tell our neighbours how the misled followers think. Just as Churchill was unpopular warning of the Nazi menace, reformers these days have to remind people that the truth is harder than comfortable fables.
Or, should the
Annals ask, as a holy writer wrote long ago, "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" (Galatians 4:16)
[LOOK BACK to January-February 2008 letter to the editor: Submission / Submission Chronology 7.
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#the_truth_is_harder
[Oct 17, 2008]
The YouTube Queen.
The YouTube
Queen
West Weekend Magazine (a supplement of The West Australian,
westweekend@wanews.com.au ,
by Beth Jones, pp 16-18, Saturday, October 18, 2008
Feature on Queen Rania, of Jordan
[ … ] Born Rania Al-Yassin in Kuwait to Palestinian parents, she was raised as a doctor's daughter … she attended the American University in Cairo, … in 1990 … Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait … her family fled to Jordan … in 1993 … she met Abdullah, the oldest son of King Hussein. They married … that year.
[ … ] her YouTube initiative: she has been asking users of the site to send her the stereotypes they have about the Arab world so she can "break them down one by one".
[ … ] reached nearly 1.5 million hits.
[ … ] Others question whether her YouTube project is the conversation it's billed to be, because she can pick and choose which comments she answers. So far though, she hasn't shied away from the tricky issues: in one of her videos she stated, "Women across the Arab world do not have equal rights to men"; "Does violence against women happen in the Arab world? Yes", and "Honour crimes happen in the Arab world, including Jordan".
It's pretty punchy stuff but then Queen Rania has never avoided the controversial issues. She's been quoted as saying she has "a gender agenda", and much of her time and effort is directed towards issues involving women and children. While that may be standard fare for young female royals around the world, in Jordan there are real fights to be fought. There's a way to go until women receive equal rights in Jordan. "We still face challenges, not least of which is the fact that women feel under pressure to give up their careers once they get married, even if they have great educational achievements."
Recently she was in Morocco with UNICEF, visiting a school that helps to integrate former child workers into the education system. Navigating through the chaos of excited children, the packs of international press and the clouds of overpowering rosewater the building had been fumigated with, she was happy to volunteer information about the problems her own country faced in relation to women and children. "She does not stick with the non-controversial issues," says Anne Skatvedt, the UNICEF Jordan representative. "She's very courageous about using her name and her position to raise not only the safer issues about breastfeeding and vaccines but issues on violence and the sexual abuse of children." [ … ]
[RECAPITULATION: … she stated, "Women across the Arab world do not have equal rights to men"; "Does violence against women happen in the Arab world? Yes", and "Honour crimes happen in the Arab world, including Jordan".
ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:34 (or 4:38):- Men are superior to women … Virtuous women are obedient, … But chide those for whose refractoriness ye have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them; but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them …
5:14 (or 5:17):- … Christians … forgot a good part of the Message that was sent to them: so We stirred up enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the Day of Judgment. …
5:57 (or 5:62):- Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Muslim's collection, 41:6985:- … Allah's Messenger … saying The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree …
TRADITION ENDS.]
[CONTACT: www.youtube.com/queenrania .
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http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#the_youtube_queen
[Oct 18, 08]
Mandaeans - a threatened religion.
Mandaeans - a threatened religion
British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC),
http://news. bbc.co.uk: 80/2/hi/uk_ news/767 8123.stm ,
By Angus Crawford, Last updated at 03:10 GMT, Sunday, October 19, 2008
Members of an ancient religious group living in the UK are warning their faith could soon disappear.
[Picture of Dr Layla Alroomi] Mandaeans living in the UK say they need places to practise their religion
The Sabian Mandaeans have fled persecution in Iraq. Some have found safety in Britain, but now they claim they have nowhere to worship or teach their children about their faith.
Dr Layla Alroomi, who has lived in the UK for more than 30 years, fears their culture is under threat.
"We feel our community, our religion, our culture is slipping away from our hands," she says.
As a student in Iraq she was imprisoned for her political beliefs, now she is trying to rally the tiny Mandaean community here.
Water religion
But it is difficult.
"We have no priest, if somebody wants to get married in the UK, they can't be because we don't have a place to meet."
She explains that water is at the heart of their faith. They must baptise as often as possible in running water, preferably a river.
"We don't have a temple near water to perform our religious rituals."
There are fewer than 1,000 Mandaeans living in the UK. Their faith, which came before Islam and Christianity, is based on pacifism and began in what is now Iraq before the birth of Christ.
Just last week we heard of the killing of a man, his brother and an eight-year-old boy
Marwa Roomi Deema is just seven. For her birthday she asked for money, not presents, to send to Mandaeans in need.
"Here is a nice place… in Iraq it's quite warry and noisy."
She says she would love for there to be a Mandi in the UK.
"To meet all new people from Iraq, poor and tired, wearing rags - we could give them clothes, drinks, food and money."
'Compelled by duty'
Some in the community believe the British government should help them build their Mandi.
One of them is 22-year-old Marwa Roomi who is studying to be a human-rights lawyer.
"They have a duty … to the Mandaeans here, to those in Iraq still being persecuted and to those in Syria and Jordan who are stuck there because the UK and other countries invaded Iraq."
I ask her why non-Mandaeans should care if her religion should die out.
"It would be clear evidence of what happened to human rights.
"What happened to minorities having an equal right to the majority?" #
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
8:39 (or 8:40):- Make war on them until strife shall be at an end, and the religion be all of it Allah's
…
8:65 (or 8:66):- O Prophet! urge the believers to war …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The Coalition of the Killing cannot even defend itself in Iraq or Afghanistan, let alone ensure that Islamists stop persecuting other people.
ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: DG.
ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#mandaeans_a_threatened_religion
[October 19, 2008]
Shrine planned to Bali bombers.
[and other "holy warriors," to take 1 hectare of land.]
Shrine planned to Bali bombers
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 3, Monday, October 20, 2008
JAKARTA – An Indonesian businessman who wants to build a memorial to the Bali bombers and other "holy warriors" is among supporters discussing burial arrangements for the three men.
Cecep Hermawan has offered a hectare of land in the city of Cianjur, West Java, to the men. He says he has discussed his proposal with them on his regular visits to death row at their prison on the island of Nusakambangan.
He said his site would be a shrine to "those who fought for the existence of Islamic sharia, those that paid with their life". He wanted it to be a place "pilgrims" would visit.
"Amrozi, Mukhlas and Imam Samudra said it is up to me," he said. "The families said they are OK with that. Their only complaint is about the distance, especially for the families of Amrozi and Mukhlas, because they live in East Java.
"The family of Imam Samudra has no problem as it is not far from their home town."
Achmad Cholid, the lawyer for the Bali bombers, confirmed Mr Hermawan's offer. He said Mr Hermawan was only one of about five individuals, all from Java, who wanted to fund a joint burial plot for the three men.
Mr Cholid said the bombers and their families would wait until they knew the time of the execution before making a decision on which, if any, offers they accepted.
A spokesman for Indonesian Attorney-General Hendarman Supandji said last week that he would announce the time and date of the execution on Friday. The regulations governing Indonesian executions say the announcement can be made only after the firing-squad execution.
The statement prompted speculation that the executions were imminent but Mr Supandji said later he would foreshadow only the month of the executions. He said they would occur this year. He rejected suggestions that the event was being repeatedly delayed for political reasons.
The three Bali bombers have warned of a violent backlash if they are put to death.
A clear majority of Indonesians have no sympathy for the men, who killed 202 people when they bombed the Bali tourist strip six years ago.
Even so, in a predominantly Muslim country of more than 220 million people, there is a significant fringe who regard them as slightly misguided heroes and buy into elaborate conspiracy theories that the murders were actually a CIA plot and that the bigger bomb which destroyed the Sari Club was a US micro-nuclear device.
Mr Hermawan is an adviser to the Muslim Defence Lawyers Team, which acts for the Bali bombers and other militant Muslims before the judicial system. He was treasurer of the Crescent and Star Party whose secretary-general used to be the Indonesian Forestry Minister. #
[TEXT ABOUT BUILDING A SHRINE: See HADITH:
2, 23:414:- ‘Āisha said, "The Prophet in his fatal illness said, 'Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians because they took the graves of their Prophets as places for praying'."
‘Āisha added, "Had it not been for that the grave of the Prophet (p.b.u.h.) would have been made prominent but I am afraid it might be taken (as a) place for praying.
{Also click 4, 56:660} http://www.usc. edu/dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/056. sbt.html# 004.056.660
ENDS.]
[SHRINE COMMENT: Sunni Muslims to this day attack Shi'ite shrines to dead leaders, saying that praying there is akin to idolatry. Sometimes some of them bomb the shrine-mosques. ENDS.]
[RECAPITULATION: The three Bali bombers have warned of a violent backlash if they are put to death. [ … ]
Mr Hermawan … was treasurer of the Crescent and Star Party whose secretary-general used to be the Indonesian Forestry Minister.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: So, we are not dealing with poverty-stricken misguided youngish people, but with a determined anti-Western conspiracy reaching up through wealthy people into the very parliament of Indonesia ! (AND with the blessings of a popular religious leader.) Wishing won't make this culture evaporate !
Their "religious" leader had previously been reported as saying that the three murderers would have an extra-special reward in Paradise. He had been given a mere travesty of a sentence for encouraging the bombing team to destroy infidels. We presume that the Indonesians killed in the blast, and the repeat attack later, were all "fair game," because they could be labelled as "hypocrites", to be treated like disbelievers.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:74 (or 4:76):- … Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast
reward.
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/004. qmt.html #004.074 >.
9:123 (or 9:124):- O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you …
22:19 (or 22:20):- … But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling
fluid will be poured down on their heads.
< www. submission. org/suras/ sura22.html #19 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Bukhari's Volume 5, Book 59, Number 641:-
… In the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance there was a house called Dhu-l-Khalasa or Al-Ka'ba Al-Yamaniya or Al-Ka'ba Ash-Shamiya. The Prophet said to me, "Won't you relieve me from Dhu-l-Khalasa?" So I set out with one-hundred-and-fifty riders, and we dismantled it and
killed whoever was present there. Then I came to the Prophet and informed him, and he invoked good upon us and Al-Ahmas (tribe) .
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ fundamentals/ hadithsunnah/ bukhari/ 059. sbt.html#005. 059.641 >.
Sahih Muslim's 19:4450:-
… We arrived at Hudaibiya with the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and we were fourteen hundred in number. [ … ] When we and the people of Mecca had concluded a peace treaty … four of the polytheists from the Meccans … I drew my sword and attacked these four while they were asleep. [ … ]
TRADITION ENDS.]
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#shrine_planned_to
[Oct 20, 08]
Al-Sadr in plea to MPs; Militant cleric accuses Iraqi Government of betrayal over pact extending US troops' stay.
Militant cleric accuses Iraqi Government of betrayal over pact extending US troops’ stay
Al-Sadr in plea to MPs
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 24, Monday, October 20, 2008
BAGHDAD – Shi'ite cleric Moktadar al-Sadr warned Iraqi MPs at the weekend that approving a US troop agreement would be tantamount to a betrayal of the Iraqi people.
As many as 20,000 of his supporters shouted "No, no, America" in a display of the deep apprehension among Iraqis over the security pact that would extend the US military presence in Iraq after a United Nations mandate expires in December.
Iraqi officials, even those close to the Americans, have been reluctant to back a deal that effectively could label them a puppet of foreign powers. The Government's close relationship with the US has given clout to Mr
al-Sadr, who has refused to co-operate with US officials.
"They have portrayed this agreement in a manner as if it would end the presence of the occupation on our land, but the occupiers will remain with their bases and anyone who tells you that this agreement will make us sovereign is a liar," Mr al-Sadr said in a statement that was read on Saturday by his follower Sheikh Abdul Hadi Mohamedawi to a sea of people waving Iraqi flags in Baghdad.
[Picture] Not wanted: Demonstrators burn home-made US flags. Picture: Reuters
"I know for a fact, my brothers in Parliament, that you will favour the opinion of your people over the opinion of the occupier. Do not betray your people."
The stage was populated by Sunnis, Shi'ites and Kurds, who delivered speeches denouncing the US-Iraqi security pact in a square outside Mustansiriya University.
Iraqi army checkpoints sealed off the square and the surrounding roads. The demonstrators had marched a kilometre from Sadr City, the slum
home to more than 2.5 million people and the nexus of support for Mr al-Sadr. One poster showed a US soldier arresting an Iraqi, with the caption "Death to America".
Protesters said they wanted the Iraqi Government to hear their voices.
"This agreement gives the Americans the right to do whatever they want. They will impose their terms on Iraq," Mohammed Qasem, a teacher in Sadr City, said. "If the occupier leaves, Iraq will be just and at peace."
Speakers tapped into Mr al-Sadr's image as a populist who waged two uprisings against the US military in 2004. And they highlighted his distance from Iraq's ruling clique in the fortress-like Green Zone enclave, home to both the Iraqi Government and the Americans.
Progress on the security agreement, which the US had hoped to complete by the end of July, has since stalled. A meeting of Iraq's political blocs on Friday to review the latest draft, which calls for the US to leave Iraq at the end of 2011 unless Iraq chooses otherwise, failed to push the agreement forward. #
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[1st RECAPITULATION: The stage was populated by Sunnis, Shi'ites and Kurds, who delivered speeches denouncing the US-Iraqi security pact in a square outside Mustansiriya University.
ENDS.]
[1st COMMENT: Well, unjust treaties have a habit of uniting the peoples proposed as victims. All this treaty will do is siphon even more money to the parasites of Wall-St, New York. ENDS.]
[2nd RECAPITULATION: Mohammed Qasem, a teacher in Sadr City, said "If the occupier leaves, Iraq will be just and at peace."
ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: Well, it can't be, because of the nation's culture and the literature it honours. Read its history right back to when it was seized by Arab jihadists 1400 years ago.
COMMENT ENDS.]
[OIL TREATY: Equally important is the oil treaty, not mentioned in this newsitem, under which the greedy United States financiers want the Iraqi parliament to give them decades-long rights to exploit the oilfields.
The stupidity of Saddam Hussein and his Ba'ath Socialist Party associates can be seen in the aggressive wars they waged against Iran and Kuwait, when they already had, in Iraq, enough oil to make them rich for another 50 years or so. (Readers, if the oil treaty has been signed, please contact the Webmaster urgently, with the date.)
ENDS.]
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[Oct 20, 08]
Taliban slaughter bus passengers.
Taliban slaughter bus passengers
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 31, Monday, October 20, 2008
KABUL – Taliban militants stopped a bus travelling on Afghanistan's main highway through a dangerous part of the country's south, seized about 50 people aboard and killed at least 30 of them, officials said yesterday.
A Taliban spokesman said the militia's fighters killed 27 Afghan soldiers travelling on the bus.
Militants stopped the bus, travelling in a two-bus convoy, in Maiwand district of Kandahar province, a Taliban-controlled area about 60km west of the city of Kandahar, police said. Officials said at least 10 people had been freed.
Officials offered varying death tolls from the attack, with some saying as many as 40 people were killed. The attack occurred in an area that Government forces cannot safely travel to without heavy military protection. That may explain the delay in details of the incident on Thursday emerging. #
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[Oct 20, 08]
Pirates free ship.
Pirates free ship
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 31, Monday, October 20, 2008
SOMALIA – Pirates had released a hijacked cargo ship believed to be owned by a Thai company after receiving a ransom, Somalian Government Minister Ali Abdi Aware said yesterday.
He said the ship was freed on Saturday but he did not know how much ransom was paid or how many crew were aboard.
About 30 ships have been hijacked off Somalia's long coastline this year, according to the International Maritime Bureau. #
[RECAPITULATION: … ransom … About 30 ships have been hijacked off Somalia's long coastline this year …
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Have the Muslim religious leaders issued any death-threat fatwas against the Muslim pirates? Check in history books about the Muslim pirates of north African coasts!
COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7):- When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters. And afterwards let there either be free dismissals or ransomings, ‘
<www. submission. org/suras/ sura47. html#4>
48:18-19:- … Allah … the
believers … He … rewarded them with a speedy victory, and with the rich booty which they took …
< www.usc.edu/ dept/MSA/ quran/048. qmt.html #048.018 >
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Muslim's, Book 008, Number 3371:-
… We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. …
TRADITION ENDS.]
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[Oct 20, 08]
Billionaire MP faces trial over pop star's death.
[No Islamist aspect in this report.]
Billionaire MP faces trial over pop star’s death
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 32, Monday, October 20, 2008
[Pictures] Accused: Former security officer Mohsen el-Sukkary. Accused: Egyptian billionaire businessman Hisham Talaat Moustafa. Pictures: Reuters
CAIRO – An Egyptian tycoon and an associate he allegedly hired as a hit man have pleaded not guilty in a Cairo court to charges they orchestrated the gruesome murder of a Lebanese pop star.
The case has mesmerised Arabs across the Middle East who were shocked by the suspected actions of Egyptian billionaire Hisham Talaat Moustafa, and just as surprised that authorities arrested the powerful real estate mogul and MP.
Mr Moustafa is a close friend of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's son, Gamal, and part of a powerful group long known as the untouchables because they were seen as above the law in Egypt's hierarchical, class-based society.
But a month after Suzanne Tamim was stabbed to death in her Dubai apartment, Mr Moustafa was stripped of his parliamentary immunity and arrested for ordering the murder of the singer, who friends say left Cairo to break off her relationship with the married tycoon.
Mr Moustafa and Mohsen el-Sukkary, who is charged with carrying out the murder, appeared together at the weekend wearing white tracksuits in the packed courtroom's defendant's cage – separated by a partition to prevent possible scuffles since each is expected to blame the other for the murder.
Security was tight outside the courtroom, with dozens of riot police surrounding the area and often scuffling with journalists. The general prosecutor read out the murder charges in court and both men pleaded not guilty.
"I didn't kill Suzanne. I didn't do it," Mr el-Sukkary said from behind the bars.
[Picture] Victim: Lebanese pop singer Suzanne Tamim during filming for a video in Cairo. She was killed in her Dubai apartment. Picture: Associated Press
Mr Moustafa also denied the charges. "It didn't happen," he said. "I presented all evidence to prove that it didn't.
"I ask for God's protection for he is my best advocate."
The tycoon's lawyers asked that their client be released on bail, saying his imprisonment endangered the wellbeing of the people who worked for him.
Lawyer Hafiz Farhoud said: "This is very dangerous not only
on the defendant but also on his 11 companies – and the 60,000 employees and workers who work for him."
But the judge refused their request to release Mr Moustafa, the owner of luxury hotels and beach resorts in Egypt and a leading force in building Western-style suburbs for the upper-class around Cairo.
The prosecution admitted into evidence Tamim's white trousers, a knife, fingerprint reports, DNA tests, security camera tapes and transcripts of telephone conversations between the two men allegedly about the murder.
The prosecution is also expected to present a dozen witnesses, including police from the United Arab Emirates, where Tamim was killed.
The 30-year-old singer, famed for her striking green eyes, was found dead in her Dubai apartment in July, with multiple stab wounds and a 20cm slash across her throat.
Egypt's public prosecutor has accused the tycoon of contracting for the singer's killing by paying $US2 million ($2.9 million) to Mr el-Sukkary, a former Egyptian State Security officer.
Mr el-Sukkary worked at one of Egypt's Four Seasons Hotels, owned by Mr Moustafa. The prosecutor said the tycoon helped facilitate visas and tickets for the security man as he trailed the singer first to London, then to Dubai.
According to investigators in Dubai, Mr el-Sukkary stalked the singer on the morning of July 28 to her apartment in the swanky Dubai Marina complex. From the lobby, he rang her video intercom, showing her an ID of the management company from which she had recently bought the apartment. She buzzed him in, police say.
Officials said that, once inside, he stabbed her repeatedly with a knife, then shed his overalls and cap, dumping them in a rubbish bin outside the building. They were found by police and tested for DNA.
Police say the killer's face also appeared on security camera footage.
The judge adjourned the trial until November 15. #
[RECAPITULATION: "I ask for God's protection for he is my best advocate."
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Well, whether it's a Mafia or Cosa Nostra gangster, or an Islamist extremist mass-killer, or someone charged with ordinary murder etc., anyone who calls on God's name to witness to their innocence is a real worry to the Webmaster.
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Oct 20, 08]
Man sets fire to girl 'for wearing lipstick'.
Man sets fire to girl ‘for wearing lipstick’
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 33, Monday, October 20, 2008
NEW DELHI – An 11-year-old girl was set on fire by a relative in the Indian city of Jaipur "for wearing lipstick" and being "inappropriately dressed", media reports said at the weekend.
The girl suffered burns over 90 per cent of her body. Her chances of survival were bleak, police said.
Police arrested her great-uncle, who allegedly poured kerosene on the girl and set her on fire on Friday.
Investigators said that the man, a conservative Muslim, told police he was enraged at the girl wearing lipstick and being "scantily dressed".
Among conservative Muslim communities, women are required to observe hijab, which means wearing clothing that covers the head and the body.
But relatives alleged that the man tried to molest the girl and set her on fire when she objected.
Neighbours came to her rescue and one was also injured while trying to put out the flames, police said. #
[COMMENT: Let us look at the texts to see what Great Uncle might have meant by "inappropriately dressed" and "scantily dressed", and whether females are allowed to draw attention to adornments. COMMENT ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
24:31:- And speak to the believing women … that they do not display their ornaments, except those which are external; and that they throw their veils over their bosoms, … And let them not strike their feet together, so as to discover their hidden ornaments. …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
8, 74:257:-
Narrated 'Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Apostle "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam'a went out and she was a tall woman. 'Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while he was in a gathering, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He ('Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women). So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1)
TRADITION ENDS.]
[2nd COMMENT: There could be a forced-marriage killing plan behind this hateful cruel act, or an attempted molestation, as was alleged. ENDS.]
[MORE READING: Click for book Burned Alive.
ENDS.]
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[p 33, Oct 20, 08]
'Pure and beautiful' still doing ugly acts.
‘Pure and beautiful’ still doing ugly acts
Sent to
The West Australian,
Letter to The Editor from an Informed Source, sent on October 20, 2008
In recent weeks a group of Islamic schoolchildren wrote letters to the editor saying, among other things, that Islam was a pure and beautiful religion.
On September 18 your paper reported on a video clip of Australian journalist Nigel Brennan and a Canadian companion kidnapped in Somalia. (Koran
9:5)
In recent days we read of a relative setting fire to a young girl on quasi-moral grounds (lipstick, and breaking the clothing code), and that thousands of Christians are being hounded out of Mosul. (Koran 9:34-35 and 57:27)
(It may surprise many Muslims, but there were Christians throughout the Middle East and further east in Asia before Islam was even a name.)
In a weekend paper we read that Jordan's Queen Rania has a YouTube presence, and in it she has admitted: "Women across the Arab world do not have equal rights to men"; "Does violence against women happen in the Arab world? Yes", and "Honour crimes happen in the Arab world, including Jordan". (Koran 4:34 or 4:38)
In Monday's West (20/10) we read that wealthy Indonesian people want to build a shrine honouring the three Bali bombers if they get executed, and for others who fought for sharia law at the cost of their lives. (Pilgrimage shrines seem to be forbidden in the Hadith, Bukhari 2, 23:414, but the Shi'ites favour them.)
In Afghanistan, Islamists stopped a bus, forced 50 people off, and slaughtered about 30 of the passengers who they said were members of the Afghan defence forces. (Koran 9:73)
Somali Muslim pirates were reported to have released a Thai ship after ransom was paid. (Koran 47:4-6 or 47:4-7, and 48:18-19)
I can find scriptures or precedents to support most of these actions -- do the children learn about this news in their classroom? How is it pure and beautiful? #
[COMMENT: As well as the above list of ugly acts against women and non-Muslims, there were reports "Britain faced more death and destruction" (Oct 11), and "Mandaeans - a threatened religion" (BBC, Oct. 19).
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Oct 20, 08]
UN rights declaration under threat: Glendon; Some Islamic cultures say UN rights document not universal.
UN rights declaration under threat: Glendon
Some Islamic cultures say UN rights document not universal
The Record (R.C. Perth W. Australia weekly),
Wednesday, October 22, 2008
ROME (CNS) ‘Sixty years after the creation of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the document is under threat, several speakers said at a conference celebrating its anniversary.
The presumption that this landmark list of basic fundamental principles is a Western, Judeo-Christian invention and therefore would be inapplicable to Eastern, especially Islamic, cultures seems to be on the rise, they said.
The US Embassy to the Vatican, with support from the Knights of Columbus, sponsored an October 16 conference titled For Everyone, Everywhere: Universal Human Rights and the Challenge of Diversity, one of three conferences the embassy was organising this year to mark the 60th anniversary of the UN declaration.
US Ambassador to the Vatican Mary Ann Glendon said the UN commission charged with drawing up a sort of "international bill of rights" asked philosophers if there were rights or values that people from different cultures, religions and political bents could agree on as universal.
With input from Confucian, Hindu, Muslim and Christian officials and scholars from around the world, the philosophers determined "that even people who seem to be far apart in theory can agree that certain things are so terrible in practice that no one will openly approve them and that certain things are so good in practice that no one will openly oppose them," she said.
The agreement that there did exist "basic concepts of human decency" led to the drafting of 30 articles adopted by the UN General Assembly by a vote of 48-0.
Glendon said the nations abstaining from the vote were the six Soviet states, South Africa and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia objected to the articles on women's rights and religious freedom; South Africa at the time ruled with apartheid and could not accept the concept of equality.
Sixty years later, the communist bloc has crumbled and apartheid has been dismantled, but Saudi Arabia "is indeed the Middle East's black hole when it comes to human rights" by denying women and non-Muslims even the most basic rights of freedom of movement and expression, said Habib Malik, a professor at Beirut's Lebanese American University.
Malik, whose father Charles helped draft the UN declaration, said the human rights record of many Middle Eastern countries "is close to abysmal."
The reason why governments tend to be repressive and human rights are violated there is not because the people do not desire greater openness, he said.
It is "the combination of ideologically driven extremists, and a narrow-minded and conservative clerical establishment that thwarts any serious efforts" to overcome intimidating practices of the ruling regimes, he said.
Malik said the main reason a democratic culture cannot take root easily in the Middle East is because certain concepts - individual rights, non-Islamic law and the separation of religion from politics - "are considered alien or flatly unacceptable" from an Islamic perspective.
So while "the external husks of the democratic process," such as political campaigns and elections, can make modest progress in parts of the Middle East, the basic democratic values of equality and freedom "get consistently left behind," he said.
Some countries, like Iran, said they cannot adopt the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as it would violate Islamic law and is based on Judeo-Christian tradition, he said. Iran has claimed the UN document can be violated because it is a man-made list of conventions while Islamic law, or Shariah, comes from a divine source.
He said member states of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference in 1990 supported an alternative document, called the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam, which challenges the universality of the UN document's belief in basic, inherent rights.
Jean Bethke Elshtain, professor of social and political ethics at the University of Chicago Divinity School, said today marks "a time of testing and peril for human rights."
Those who created the declaration after World War II did so to prevent the emergence of "more Hitlers, Stalins" and other tyrants and dictators, she said.
Part of the problem, she said, is the UN's inability to prevent or stop modern-day genocides and other tragedies as it is "paralysed by the nature of its own structure and the ineptness that flows from the bloated bureaucratisation of the organisation itself."
Elshtain also said so-called "positive rights," such as the right to a paid vacation or free education, are more appropriately called "entitlements" and would be considered culturally specific.
However, she said, negative rights - such as the right not to be raped, killed or tortured for political reasons - are the natural right of every human and are therefore universal.
These fundamental human rights "are not arbitrarily invented because it just happened to be a good idea at a certain point in time," Elshtain said. They "would exist even without state sanction" because they are "divinely sanctioned" rights derived from human nature, she said.
Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, told conference participants that together with claiming one's own rights comes the duty of respecting the rights of others.
He said the Church has been making a valuable contribution in "filling the gap between the letter and the spirit of human rights," but it is also up to "public and private organisations to be at the service of the dignity and destiny of man."
"No effort should be spared to banish every vestige of social and political slavery and to safeguard basic human rights under every political system." #
[RECAPITULATION: … Habib Malik, … Lebanon … whose father Charles helped draft the UN declaration, said the human rights record of many Middle Eastern countries "is close to abysmal."
[ … ] certain concepts - individual rights, non-Islamic law and the separation of religion from politics - "are considered alien or flatly unacceptable" from an Islamic perspective.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: The Koran, the Hadith and other literature of Islam makes it perfectly clear that, to them, women can be scourged and must obey men, non-Muslims can be killed or subjugated, other Muslims can be labelled as Hypocrites and then rank with Infidels, and that conquest, slavery and booty from war are divinely inspired.
It could be added that the UNITED STATES of AMERICA also defies the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by kidnapping people in various countries, then taking them to various torture centres including Guantanamo Bay, which ought to be handed back to Cuba. In addition, the USA and BRITAIN are involved in an international conspiracy to prevent the natives of the Chagos Islands / Diego Garcia from returning to their homeland.
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[October 22, 2008]
[Explosives, spying, cartel, kidnap plot, 164 murdered, 'blasphemy,' kidnap ransom.]
[Explosives, spying, cartel, kidnap plot, 164 murdered, ‘blasphemy,’ kidnap ransom.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Thursday, October 23, 2008
Page 11. Jakarta cell 'planned to bomb city' fuel depot.

JAKARTA, Indonesia: An Islamist terror cell discovered in Jakarta this week was planning to bomb the Indonesian capital's main depot and had links to some of the region's most wanted extremists, according to police.
Police have arrested five suspects who had studied under Malaysian exremist Azahari Husin, and seized explosives and weapons.
The bomb-makers had more sophisticated circuit boards than previously. It was also believed they had links with Noordin Top, who has a one billion rupiah bounty on his head, and might be hiding in Indonesia.
Page 11. Islamic terror 'still a threat'.

CANBERRA, Australia: The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation says Islamic terrorism will remain a threat for at least a generation.
Direct pressure could be placed on Australians, particularly new Australians, to get them to spy, including people who go overseas, particularly their country of origin, being detained, threatened or coerced. Threats had also been made against relatives and associates.
[COMMENT: What has happened to the multicultural theories, or the previous integration propaganda? Who was it said that emigration was invasion by a different path? ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
4:89 (or 4:91):- … Take therefore none of them for friends … If they turn back, then seize them, and slay them wherever ye find them …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
Page 29. Russia-Iran gas cartel talks worry US

TEHRAN, Iran – Russia, Iran and Qatar have made the first serious moves towards forming an OPEC-style natural gas cartel, as the US and Europe watched nervously.
Gazprom calculates that Russia, Qatar and Iran have 60 per cent of the world's gas resources.
The European Commission has said it would oppose the formation of the cartel.
Page 29. Five arrested for alleged terror bid.

LONDON, England: Five men have been arrested over an alleged plot to blow up public buildings.
The arrests followed an investigation into the activities of Parviz Khan, of Birmingham, who was imprisoned for life this year for plotting to kidnap and murder a British soldier. [LOOK BACK: January 31, 2008]
One of those arrested was Mohammed Shabir (29), who was brought from Pakistan when he was six months old.
Page 29. Saudis put Islamic militants on trial.
RIYADH: Saudi Arabia has begun legal proceedings against 991
al-Qaida suspects for taking part in a wave of terror that threatened the stability of the oil-rich kingdom.
Most attacks took place in 2003 and 2004 and many of those to be tried have been imprisoned since then.
In the wake of the 2003 Iraq invasion, al-Qaida, led by Saudi-born Osama bin Laden, organised more than 30 attacks that killed 164 people.
Interior Minister Prince Nahyef al-Saud said the acts had sullied Islam by attaching the label of terrorism to its adherents.
[KORAN:
8:12:- … I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
Page 46. Blasphemy death sentence commuted to 20 years jail; Observers say case shows drift to conservative Islam and the fragility of Afghan legal system.
KABUL, Afghanistan: An Afghan appeals court has overturned a death sentence for a student and part-time journalist convicted of blasphemy.
Parwiz Kambakhsh (24) last year circulated an article about women's rights under Islam, off the Internet.
The Asia director of
Human Rights Watch, Mr Brad Adams, called the sentencing "ridiculous."
After the death penalty had been decreed at his January trial, public demonstrations were held in support of the verdict, and some prominent clerics said he deserved to be executed for violating the teachings of Islam.
Kambakhsh's supporters say the previous trial had been held in secret, he was denied a lawyer, and he had been beaten in an effort to extract a confession. Local journalists who supported him were threatened they would be arrested.
His brother said the blasphemy charges were a pretext because of his articles he had written about abuses by local warlords and militias.
[KORAN:
9:73:- O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.
9:80 (or 9:81):- Whether thou ask for their forgiveness, or not, (their sin is unforgivable) …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
Page 46. Reported ransom puts journalists at risk: MPs
LONDON: British broadcaster
Channel 4 endangered the lives of every journalist in Afghanistan and Iraq by handing over a reported £150,000 (Aust $370,000) ransom to free a flim-maker kidnapped by the Taliban, MPs claim.
Sean Langan, an award-winning documentary maker for Channel 4's
Dispatches programme, was captured by Taliban insurgents on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border this year and held for three months.
A House of Commons committee questioned the Channel 4 chief executive Andy Duncan, and said that paying a ransom would fund terrorism and encourage copycat kidnappings.
[COMMENT: Taking captives and demanding ransom has been part of human culture, from long before the dawn of the Islamic calendar. In addition, there are plenty of examples in the Islamic literature for Muslims to copy! ENDS.]
[KORAN:
33:50 (or 33:49):- O Prophet! We allow thee thy wives whom thou hast dowered, and the slaves whom thy right hand possesseth out of the booty which Allah hath granted thee …
47:4-6 (or 47:4-7):- When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters. And afterwards let there either be free dismissals or ransomings …
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
[HADITH:
Sahih Muslim's, Book 008, Number 3371:-
… We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. …
TRADITION ENDS.]
[CHANNEL 4's exposures: Click
Dispatches
http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#explosives_spying_cartel
[COMMENT: S.N.A.F.U.
ENDS.]
[Oct 23, 08]
[N-bomb, adulteress stoned, secret US camp, US crosses border, suicide bomber, kidnap rescue partly succeeds.]
[N-bomb, adulteress stoned, secret US camp, US crosses border, suicide bomber, kidnap rescue partly succeeds.]
The West Australian,
Various pages, Wednesday, October 29, 2008
Page 16. Iran still shielding N-plans: watchdog

NEW YORK: The United Nations nuclear chief claims Iran is blocking his group from verifying whether Tehran has any ambitions for nuclear weapons.
"I regret that we are still not in a position to achieve full clarity regarding the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities in Iran," Mohammed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, told the UN General Assembly.
An Iranian ambassador said that the UN Security Council's demand that Iran suspend uranium enrichment was illegal. North Korea has been outside the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty since 2003, and had exploded a nuclear device two years ago.
Page 32. Somalian stoned to death for adultery.

MOGADISHU: Thousands of people gathered to see 50 Somalian men stone a woman to death after an Islamic court in the southern city of Kismayo found her guilty of adultery.
Aisho Ibrahim Dhuhulow was buried up to her neck, and men pelted her head with rocks in a town square on Monday.
Sheikh Hayakallah told the crowd: "Our sister Aisho asked the Islamic sharia court … to be charged and punished … She admitted in front of the court to engaging in adulterous sexual intercourse … she stressed that she wanted sharia law and the deserved punishment to apply."
Kismayo port had been seized in August by forces loyal to Hassan Turki and the Shebab, an Islamist organisation.
[COMMENT: If the woman actually asked for the sharia punishment, she might have been following a tradition in the Hadith. (See Sunan Abu-Dawud's, Book 38, Number 4405)
COMMENT ENDS.]
Page 34. Defence team to pierce Guantanamo camp secrecy.

WASHINGTON: A US military judge has ruled that defence lawyers can inspect the mysterious Camp 7 at the detention centre at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where some of the major al-Qaida suspects are held.
Judge Ralph Kohlmann, a Marine colonel, ruled that lawyers for Ramzi Binalshibh,a Yemeni, could visit Camp 7.
Last month the prisoner's lawyers said he was being given a psychotropic drug, which is normally used to treat schizophrenia.
The actual whereabouts of Camp 7, on the 116sqkm base, is still a classified secret.
[COMMENT: Guantanamo Bay, and the other US imprisonments, are in defiance of the US constitution, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The fact that the US Supreme Court seems unable to clearly rule on that, and to insist on the release of all the illegally held prisoners there, says something important about the faulty system of appointing the judges.
Page 35. Al-Qaida ally died in Syria raid, says US

WASHINGTON: Abu Ghadiyah, who on Sunday was said to have been killed in a US commando and helicopter raid into Syria, had been smuggling fighters, weapons, and cash to the insurgency in Iraq, a US official said. A Syrian minister in London said the killing had been criminal and terrorist aggression.
[COMMENT: Ah, but where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction that the three leaders of the Coalition of the Killing had told us existed in Iraq before the illegal invasion? How can anyone believe what the USA says? And, doesn't terrorism beget terrorism? ENDS.
Page 35. Taliban downs helicopter near Kabul. [Suicide bomber hits police station.]

KABUL: Insurgents forced a US helicopter into an emergency landing about 60km from the Afghan capital, Kabul. The crew was rescued. Rebels have turned Wardak into a Taliban stronghold, choking road traffic.
Also on Monday, a siuicide bomber dressed as an Afghan policeman killed two US soldiers and wounded three coalition soldiers and Afghan officers.
Page 44. Oil workers died in botched rescue bid, says China

BEIJING: Four Chinese oil workers kidnapped in Sudan were killed by their captors during a botched rescue attempt, the Chinese government said yesterday. Four had been rescued, and one other was missing.
Sudanese government forces had carried out the raid to free the hostages, who had been kidnapped nearly two weeks ago by anti-government local rebels. China buys nearly two-thirds of Sudan's oil, and its investments are helping the Sudan government in its attacks on local people in Darfur.
[COMMENT: The Darfur population is mainly black African. Is there a tinge of racism in the Arabic-speaking Sudanese government forces and militias denying a fair share of the oil revenues to the black people? Are the rebels fully to blame?
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• Jihad, conflict and culture; What are Middle Easterners for and what are they against ?
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book review, by Andrew G. Bostom, pp 28-31, October 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 28-31 OCTOBER 2008
Book Review
What are Middle Easterners for and what are they against ?
JIHAD, CONFLICT AND CULTURE
Reviewed by Andrew G. Bostom
M CGILL University Anthropology Professor Philip Carl Salzman is a truly intrepid man. With Promethean boldness (pun intended), Salzman's pellucid, remarkably compendious, and brilliantly argued 'Culture and Conflict in the Middle East,' defies academia's pervasive, stultifying Islamo-sycophantism.
Culture and Conflict in the Middle East, Prometheus Books, Amherst, N.Y., 224 pp., by Philip Carl Salzman.
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Professor Salzman, the founding chair of the Commission on Nomadic Peoples, who served in that position for 15 years (1978-1993), previously conducted fieldwork among nomadic, pastoral tribes in Iranian Baluchistan in 1967-68, 1972-73, and 1976. He is the author of the earlier anthropological studies,
Black Tents of Baluchistan; Pastoralism:
Equality, Hierarchy, and the State; and
Understanding Culture. Central to understanding Salzman's conception of Middle Eastern Arab culture is the form of social control he denotes as 'balanced opposition.' His operational definition of this 'ingenious' system for providing security, in particular, is as follows:
Everybody is a member of a nested set of kin groups, from very small to very large. These groups are vested with responsibility for the defense [defence] of each and every one of its members and responsibility for the harm each and every one of its members do to outsiders.
‘ Progressives,’ and the Root Causes of Islamic Terror
THERE is much that is clearly wrong with the Islamic world. Women are stoned to death and undergo clitorectomies. Gays hang from the gallows under the approving eyes of the proponents of Shariah, the legal code of Islam. Sunni and Shia massacre each other daily in Iraq. Palestinian mothers teach 3-year-old boys and girls the ideal of martyrdom. One would expect the orthodox Islamic establishment to evade or dismiss these complaints, but less happily, the non-Muslim priests of enlightenment in the West have come, actively and passively, to the Islamists' defense. These "progressives" frequently cite the need to examine "root causes." In this they are correct: Terrorism is only the manifestation of a disease and not the disease itself. But the root-causes are quite different from what they think.
– Tawfik Hamid, The Wall Street Journal, Tuesday, April 3, 2007. A onetime member of Jemaah Islamiya, an Islamist terrorist group, Dr Hamid is a medical doctor.
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This is called by anthropologists 'collective responsibility,' and the actions taken by a group on its own behalf are called 'self-help.' If there is confrontation, small groups face opposing small groups. Middle-sized groups face opposing middle-sized groups, or large groups face opposing large groups: family vs. family, lineage vs. lineage, clan vs. clan, tribe vs. tribe, confederacy vs. confederacy, sect vs. sect, the Islamic community (umma) vs. the infidels. This is where the deterrence lies, in the balance between opponents; individuals do not face groups, and small groups do not face large groups. Any potential aggressor knows that his target is not solitary or meager, but is always, in principle, a formidable formation much the same size as his.
Salzman argues that Islam serves as the penultimate hierarchy overlaid upon all these smaller, and subordinate divisions, standing in balanced opposition against non-Muslim peoples and their nations. And although Salzman acknowledges certain decentralized, egalitarian aspects of balanced opposition at the tribal level, he also emphasizes its core 'particularism of loyalties,' which engenders antidemocratic tendencies, inconsistent with a 'universalistic' normative.' Thus Salzman concludes that balanced opposition is not conducive to,
… constitutional rule in which rules apply to all and are upheld by all at all times. Particularism and contingency, so basic to complementary opposition, preclude universalistic constitutional frameworks and thus inhibit social and political integration at broader territorial levels including larger and diverse populations.
Salzman withholds any final professional judgment that might appear disparaging,
… it is not the job of anthropologists to laud societies or to criticize them,
or to celebrate or to demean them. So problems and difficulties are a very delicate matter to address, even more when they appear to be culturally driven.
He nevertheless does not shy away from concluding that,
The cultural frame of complementary opposition in the Middle East thus underlies many of the difficulties in building a civil society, establishing democracy at the state level, maintaining state support for state institutions, founding creative educational institutions, inspiring economic development, and building an inclusive public culture in the Middle East
In support of these conclusions, Salzman adduces grim statistics from the 2002 Arab Human Development Report on the Middle Eastern Arab nations: the lowest freedom scores, reflecting an array of measures of social, political, and religious freedoms, including a specific 'women's empowerment deficit'; poor educational development which contributes to abysmal levels of scientific research and development, and sustained human poverty, despite massive oil wealth.
Salzman provides concrete illustrations of how balanced opposition functions in the feud and vendetta dynamics among the Baluch (in the border areas between Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan), 'kin groups' in Gaza, or the Bedouin in Israel. His dispassionate observations convey the terrible costs incurred by this 'ingenious' system's obsession with security, and intimately related notions of 'honor.' And these bloody dynamics persist, unfortunately, at what Salzman refers to as 'higher levels of integration,' causing,
… sectarian conflicts … in sophisticated cities far from the deserts: the Shiite-Sunni conflict for domination [which] destroyed Beirut in the 1980s, just as it undermined Karachi at the turn of the millennium, and is washing Baghdad in blood at the time of this writing [2007].
But Salzman's most important and intellectually courageous contribution to our understanding is his clear delineation that Islam's eternal institution of jihad war represents the apotheosis of balanced opposition. He alludes to Evans-Pritchard's characterization of how the Bedouin of Cyrenaica [Libya] 'compensated' for
their less than assiduous fulfillment of the ritual requirements of Islam, by their zealous commitment to jihad. Here is the full description from the original (1949) text by Evans-Pritchard:
It would [also] be a questionable judgment to assert that the Bedouin of Cyrenaica are not religious because they do not pay the same attention to outward ritual as do townspeople and peasants, for piety and holiness, as we have often been admonished, are not the same …
Perhaps the Bedouin make up for their shortcomings by their enthusiasm for the jihad, holy war against unbelievers. They consider that they have fulfilled their obligation under this head in ample measure by their long and courageous fight, formally declared a holy war by the Caliph
of Islam, against the Italians, French, and British. A Bedouin once said to me when I remarked how rarely I had seen Bedouin at prayer: Wasum wa najhad, '(but) we fast and wage holy war.'
Salzman devotes an entire chapter to the unapologetic description of the living, uniquely Islamic institution of jihad war, whose past historical ravages extended from Iberia to the Indian subcontinent, north into Poland, and south to sub-Saharan Africa. Following this outline of jihad war theory, accompanied by salient examples of its consistent brutal practice, he also elucidates the imposition of dhimmitude - Islam's sacralized, humiliating governance of those non-Muslims vanquished by jihad.
Grounds for Hope
The Fairy Tale in The Nights is wholly and purely Persian. The gifted Iranian race, physically the noblest and the most beautiful of all known to me, has exercised upon the world history an amount of influence which has not yet been fully recognised. It repeated for Babylonian art and literature what Greece had done for Egyptian, whose dominant idea was that of working for eternity. Hellas and Iran instinctively chose as their characteristic the idea of Beauty, rejecting all that was exaggerated and grotesque; and they made the sphere of Art and Fancy as real as the world of Nature and Fact.
– Richard Burton, 'Terminal Essay,' The Book of the Thousand Nights and a Night, Private Subscribers' limited edition, vol. x, p. 127.
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Along the way, Salzman firmly rejects the bowdlerized narrative of the jihad conquests espoused by anthropologist Charles Lindolm, a Professor at Boston University.
Lindolm's absurd hagiography (from
The Islamic Middle East, Blackwell, Maiden, MA, 2002, p. 79) contends reverently, and without any qualification, that,
'The rise of Islam was both an economic and social revolution, offering new wealth and freedom to dominions it assimilated under the banner of a universal brotherhood guided by the message of the Prophet.'
Salzman, in his apt reply, observes acidly,
Yes, no doubt it was the best of all possible worlds; that is if one had not been one of the multitude slain, the myriads enslaved, or the remainder expropriated, suppressed, and degraded.
Salzman completes his frank discussion of the jihad with a synopsis of Samuel Huntington's mid-1990s paradigm of Islam's 'bloody borders.' Huntington, Salzman reminds us, adduces convincing data in support of his contention that, 'Wherever one looks along the perimeter of Islam, Muslims have problems living peaceably with their neighbors.' Salzman cites these germane observations by Huntington, noting how they have been confirmed (one could argue even amplified), subsequently, in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the U.S., and their aftermath.
The overwhelming majority of fault line conflicts,… have taken place along the boundary looping across Eurasia and Africa that separates Muslims from non-Muslims.
… Intense antagonisms and violent conflicts are pervasive between local Muslim and non-Muslim peoples.
… Muslims make up about one-fifth of the world's population, but in the 1990s they have been far more involved in inter-group violence than the people of any other civilization.
Islam and Equality
The Arabic world which had no metropolitan plebeians, and where the women were too degraded and enslaved to share in any part of cultural life, was also attracted by the Pharisaic principle of human dignity; but, as we have seen, it placed its own interpretation on the concept. Human equality was limited to believers in Mohammed, and to males. The women were to be kept as soulless tools of their husbands, and the unbelievers were to be exterminated or enslaved.
– Louis Finkelstein, The Pharisees, vol.1, The Morris Loeb Series, 1938, pp.xiii-xiv.
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The evidence is overwhelming. There were, in short, three times as many inter-civilizational conflicts involving Muslims as there were between non-Muslim civilizations.
… Muslim states also have had a high propensity to resort to violence in international crises, employing it to resolve 76 crises out of a total of 142 in which they were involved between 1928 and 1979 … When they did use violence, Muslim states used high-intensity violence, resorting to full-scale war in 41 percent of the cases where violence was used and engaging in major clashes in another 39 percent of the cases. While Muslim states resorted to violence in 53.5 percent, violence was used the United Kingdom in only 1.5 percent, by the United States in 17.9 percent, and by the Soviet Union in 28.5 percent of the crises in which they were involved… Muslim bellicosity and violence are late-twentieth-century facts which neither Muslims nor non-Muslims can deny.
G. H. Bousquet, the great 20th century scholar of Islamic jurisprudence, observed how the permanent institution of jihad war, and the related imposition of Islamic Law (Shari'a) upon all of humanity -- both Muslims and non-Muslims -- reflected the 'doubly totalitarian' quintessence of Islam.
Salzman's analysis demonstrates further how balanced opposition functioning at subordinate levels of organization (i.e., relative to Islam and the Islamic umma) - from lineage, clan, and tribe, through tribal confederacies -- amplifies 'particularisms' that also promote, anti-democratic authoritarianism.
The late P.J. Vatikiotis (d. 1997), a renowned political scientist who focused on the modern era in the Middle East, and also lived for extended periods in the region, combined, to an extent, the perspectives of Bousquet and Salzman in this 1981 analysis (from
Le Debat, [Paris], no. 14, July-August, 1981):
What is significant is that after a tolerably less autocratic/authoritarian political experience during their apprenticeship for independent statehood under foreign power tutelage, during the inter-war period, most of these states once completely free or independent of foreign control, very quickly moved towards highly
autocratic-authoritarian patterns of rule… One could suggest a hiatus of roughly three years between the departure or removal of European influence and power and overthrow of the rickety plural political systems they left behind in Syria, Egypt, Iraq, and the Sudan by military coups d'etat.
Authoritarianism and autocracy in the Middle East may be unstable in the sense that autocracies follow one another in frequent succession. Yet the ethos of authoritarianism may be lasting, even permanent… One could venture into a more ambitious philosophical etiology by pointing out the absence of a concept of 'natural law' or 'law of reason' in the intellectual-cultural heritage of Middle Eastern societies. After all, everything before Islam, before God revealed his message to Muhammad, constitutes jahiliyya, or the dark age of ignorance. Similarly, anything that deviates from the eternal truth or verities of Islamic teaching is equally degenerative, and therefore unacceptable.
That is why, by definition, any Islamic movement which seeks to make Islam the basic principle of the polity does not aim at innovation but at the restoration of the ideal that has been abandoned or lost. The missing of an experience similar, or parallel, to the Renaissance, freeing the Muslim individual from external constraints of, say, religious authority in order to engage in a creative course, measured and judged by rational and existential human standards, may also be a relevant consideration. The individual in the Middle east has yet to attain his independence from the wider collectivity, or to accept the proposition that he can create a political order.
Salzman concludes his own seminal work with a wistful admonition, in this closing statement,
To improve the condition of their society, Middle Easterners will have to decide what they are for [emphasis in original] is more important than whom they are against, [emphasis in original]
Without truly wrenching, foundational reforms to Islam itself, and accompanying profound changes in tribal dynamics, Middle Eastern Muslim societies will likely remain unable to liberate themselves from the conundrum Salzman's concluding words articulate.
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Andrew G. Bostom is the author of The Legacy of Jihad (Prometheus, 2005) and The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism. Reprinted with permission. #
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 28-31 OCTOBER 2008
[RECAPITULATION: … sectarian conflicts… in sophisticated cities far from the deserts: the Shiite-Sunni conflict for domination [which] destroyed Beirut in the 1980s, just as it undermined Karachi at the turn of the millennium, and is washing Baghdad in blood at the time of this writing. [… ]
Without truly wrenching, foundational reforms to Islam itself, and accompanying profound changes in tribal dynamics, Middle Eastern Muslim societies will likely [= probably] remain unable to liberate themselves from the conundrum Salzman's concluding words articulate.
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[ALSO SEE: Campus Watch (watching Middle Eastern studies on campus), http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/5568,
from The American Thinker,
August 23, 2008,
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/from_balanced_opposition_to_et.html . Also listed on other websites.
ENDS.]
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http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/submit/subchron7.htm#progressives_and_the_root
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[pp 28-31, October 2008]
• The Other Option: A Sane Immigration Policy
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
by J.R. Dunn, p 36, October 2008
The Other Option: A Sane Immigration Policy
E ducation of new immigrants as to what the American system is and how it works would appear to be the key, but who would handle that? With the educational system as it exists, enraptured with the doctrines of multiculturalism, the cure would be
worse than the disease. It may in the end merely be a matter of muddling through, of using law enforcement and social pressure to hold the fort while the new immigrant masses ever so slowly adapt themselves to this country (or, rather, their children and grandchildren do). It
doesn't seem like much, but it may be the best we can hope for. Of course, we could always return to a sane immigration policy. I have yet to hear what would be wrong with that.
– The Coming Great Divide in American Political Culture, J.R. Dunn, American Thinker, May 15, 2007.
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[p 36, October 2008]
• Anti-Christian Violence in India.
[by 1000 HINDUS]
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia § gmail com ,
p 37, October 2008
Anti-Christian Violence in India
M OTILAL PRADHAN and two of his younger brothers could not save their 35-year-old disabled youngest brother, whom a Hindu mob burnt alive while they watched helplessly from a distance when the 1000-strong mob, armed with swords and other weapons, descended on the brothers' village of Gadragam on August 24. Christians in the village began running for their lives but their brother, paralysed due to a stroke eight years ago, could not flee and the mob caught hold of him.
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[COMMENT: So Islam is not the only threat to human rights and democracy. In Hinduism, a widow is expected to willingly go onto the funeral pyre with her dead husband! And this has occurred in a village in India in the 2000s. Yet Ghandi and others agitated about 50 years ago, saying India was ripe for independence! Meanwhile, the other parts of British India, Islamic Pakistan and Bangladesh, are retreating into the Middle Ages, on their way to pre-Christian thinking!
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[p 37, October 2008]
• Lemon Tree [Movie]
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia § gmail com ,
Movies, by James Murray, p 40, October 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 40 OCTOBER 2008
Movies
By James Murray
Lemon Tree
Is so quiet you can hear the yearning for peace in the powerful simplicity with which writer/director Eran Riklis sets out his premise: Palestinian Arab widow Salma (Hiam Abbass) confronting the state of Israel when her subsistence lemon grove is seen as a security threat to defence minister Israel Navon (Doron Tavory) who has moved next door in the border area between the West Bank and Israel.
Will Salma prevail against state power aided by a charming but devious young lawyer Ziad Duad (Ali Suliman) whose eyes are on her but also on the main chance? Will Navon's wife, Mira (Rona Lipaz-Michael), distant but sympathetic, intervene? The case goes all the way to the Supreme Court and a bench of women judges. The verdict relies on the wisdom of: Solomon.
A drama exemplary for the style in which it eschews camera tricks for the traditional grammar of cinema: hold the actors in frame and let them show their talent.
G****SFFV
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 40 OCTOBER 2008
[OFFICIAL CLASSIFICATIONS KEY: G: for general exhibition. … ]
[ANNALS SUPPLEMENTARY ADVICE: SFFV: Suitable For Family Viewing. … ]
[COMMENT: How JUDAISM nibbles at Gentiles' property. ENDS.]
[JUDAIST SCRIPTURE: … And they stopt up all the springs of waters : and cut down all the trees that bore fruit …
(2 Kings 3:25; or 4 Kings 3:25 in old Roman Catholic bibles)
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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[p 40, October 2008]
'Killing infidels isn't a mistake as they don't pray'
‘Killing infidels isn’t a mistake as they
don’t pray’
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
Page One, Monday, November 3, 2008
[Picture] Believers: The family of two Bali bombers, including mother Tariem, won't shed tears for the condemned brothers. They say paradise awaits the pair for their role in killing 202 people. Picture: Associated Press
[DESCRIPTION: The picture includes a seated woman in front of an entrance to a poorly-constructed doorway and walls, one of basketware and the other of poorly-fitted wooden slats. She has several colourful cloths in front of her. On the ground at left foot of the picture are about four maize heads in untidy order, and nearby what might be two kinds of foodstuffs, two of them possibly egg plants. The earth outside this doorway stretches inside, where can be dimly seen a large roundish pot with a cloth behind. Hanging from the outside of this structure are various objects. It would seem that the breezes (plus mosquitoes and flies) would easily enter this structure. In a word – unbelievable beliefs amid squalor.
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[Nov 3, 08]
Paradise awaits Bali bombers, say family.
Paradise awaits Bali bombers, say family
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
p 9, Monday, November 3, 2008
DENPASAR – The family of two of the Bali bombers about to go before a firing squad say the executions are good news and paradise awaits the brothers because they stood up for their religion.
It is not clear exactly when the three Islamic militants – Imam Samudra, 38, Amrozi, 47 and his brother Mukhlas, 48 – will go before the firing squad, but the executions could be as early as this morning.
The bombers responsible for the 2002 blasts which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians, have been in isolation lockdown at Batu Prison on Nusakambangan island, off Central Java, since Friday.
Relatives of the terrorists were yesterday reportedly making their way to prison. Family and the men's lawyers are expected to try to visit them today, but it is not clear whether the men will still be alive. Two helicopters which will transport the bodies of the bombers arrived at the prison last night.
The family of so-called smiling assassin Amrozi and Mukhlas say the executions are "good news" because they believe paradise awaits the pair after they die. The family packed the last meal for the condemned men, including dates, flatbreads and sweets from the Middle East, and sarongs to be given as gifts to other prisoners.
"The family don't feel burdened by the execution," their older brother Muhammed Chozin, 52, said from the bombers' home village in East Java. "In fact, we're happy because it means God and the Prophet have given good news. If they die because they are standing up for their religion, they will be placed in paradise."
The mother of the two bombers said last night her sons were right to "kill infidels".
"I don't cry. I leave it all to God," Tariem, 70, said after returning from praying at the mosque.
"I feel that killing infidels isn't a mistake because they don't pray."
[Picture] Happy: Muhammed Chozin, brother of Bali bombers Amrozi and Mukhlas.
Ali Fauzi, the younger brother of Amrozi and Mukhlas, said yesterday he was travelling to the high-security
prison and planned to arrive around dawn for a routine visit.
Another brother, Jaffar Sidik, believes in a complex conspiracy theory that the Bali bombers are innocent, or at least only set off the smaller bomb, and the real bombers were the CIA or "a third party".
"Amrozi and the others love Australians," he insisted. "Amrozi and friends are not against Australia. They (the bombers and Australia) are just being put against each other by a third party."
Imam Samudra's family in West Java said they would consider the executions as "an assassination not as a punishment" because they did not feel they were legitimate.
"Why we call it an assassination – if it was a punishment then all would run according to procedure," Samudra's brother Lulu Jamaludin said.
Security has been tightened across Indonesia, with security personnel on alert at potential flashpoints across the nation, reportedly including the Australian, British and US embassies.
Amid fears of reprisal attacks from Islamic sympathisers of the killers, the Federal Government has upgraded its travel warning for Indonesia, advising Australians to rethink their travel plans.
Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith said those in Bali should keep away from the sites of past attacks. #
[RECAPITULATION: The family packed the last meal for the condemned men, including dates, flatbreads and sweets from the Middle East, and sarongs to be given as gifts to other prisoners.
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[COMMENT: Why would prison authorities allow an execution of murderers to become a celebration? Note that helicopters were provided (by whom?) to transport the bodies of murderers back to their home area. And who taught a family living in squalor that it was virtuous to kill non-Muslims? It's the culture, isn't it? Or could it be teachings about winning booty from non-Muslims?
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Nov 3, 08]
Revenge fears grow as Bali bombers executed.
Revenge fears grow as Bali bombers executed
The West Australian,
www.thewest.com.au ,
By TOM ALLARD and LISA MURRAY, Page One, Monday, November 10, 2008
[Picture] Procession: The coffin bearing the body of Bali bomber Imam Samudra is carried to its final resting place by a mass of fist-pumping supporters on its arrival in his hometown of Serang. Picture: Getty Images
JAKARTA – Indonesia is on high alert for terrorist attacks and mob violence, fearing radicals will take revenge for the execution by firing squad of the three Bali bombers early yesterday.
As hundreds of extremists gathered in the assassins' home villages in east and west Java for the funerals, there were two hoax bomb threats against the Australian Embassy and Indonesia's anti-corruption watchdog KPK.
The Rudd Government last night warned Australians to reconsider their travel plans, with Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith urging high school graduates to cancel flights and cautioning tourists to avoid beaches, bars and shopping malls in Indonesia.
[Pictures] Amrozi; Imam Samudra; Mukhlas
He also revealed that Australia plans to press for an international moratorium on capital punishment following the executions. Bombers Amrozi, Mukhlas and Imam Samudra were shot dead just after midnight for a crime that ripped apart the lives of many Australians and brought mass
casualty terrorism to the nation's near neighbour. Tied to posts in a clearing near their prison in Central Java and killed by three firing squads at the same time, the men ended their lives despised by most but revered by their
followers as martyrs and holy warriors. They were shot through the heart at 12.15am local time after a Bali prosecutor lowered a ceremonial sword. The men reportedly refused to wear blindfolds and did not want to
make final statements. A spokesman for Indonesia's Attorney-General, Jasman Panjaitan, said the men died instantly.
By first light, mobs of supporters had descended on their home towns for their funerals, chanting jihadist slogans, clashing with police and threatening foreign journalists. An exception was made for the Qatari-based news service Al Jazeera.
Despite calls from the Bali bombers for vengeance upon their deaths and warnings from the Australian Government, there were no reprisal terrorist attacks in Indonesia yesterday. …
Continued on page 6
Reports P 2-7 >>
[DESCRIPTION of the main picture: It seems that there is a metal coffin cover over the coffin. The handle shows signs of wear, and the bottom looks as if rust is building up under the green paint. Over the top is an embroidered cloth, intended to add dignity, but instead showing long loose threads (two kinds) hanging off a black section.
ENDS.]
[OTHER HEADINGS and CAPTIONS: Pp 2-3: Killers' legacy aimed at Muslim hearts, minds.
P 2: Burial sites [map]
P 3: Captions: Supporters guard the grave prepared for bombers Amrozi and Mukhlas.
Bomber supporters hid their faces.
Resting place: Samudra's mother Embyu Babriyah pays her respects. Picture: AP.
P 3: Heading: Passions run high as bombers buried.
P 3: Caption: Fervour: Supporters of the bombers clash with police in Tengpulun.
Pp 4-5:
'This won't bring my young fella back. I miss him dearly.'
P 4: Captions: WA's Victims. Peter Basioli, Matthew Bolwerk, Jane Corteen, Jenny Corteen, Andrew Dobson, Dean Gallagher, Byron Hancock,
Nicole Harrison, Carole Johnstone, Corey Paltridge, David Ross, Anthony Stewart, Lee Sexton, Jason Stokes, Tracy Thomas, and Jonathan Wade.
P 4: Heading: Bali lawyer fears for death row trio's fate.
P 5: Captions: Peter Hughes. Memories: Kingsley Football Club survivors Damon Brimson and Brad Phillips are comforted by Kevin Paltridge, whose son Corey died. Picture: Lee Griffith.
P 5: Headings: Peace park planned for club site.
Shock, then relief. SYDNEY:
P 6: Smith says executions a sad day for Australia and will help sponsor United Nations resolution for a global moratorium. Push for end to death penalty.
P 6: Key dates since the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings.
P 6:
Revenge fears after deaths. (From page 1).
P 7: Danger warning fails to deter tourists to Bali.
P 7: Picture captions: High alert: Security guards outside the Australian Embassy in Jakarta. Careful: Martin Jones and Mary Barton say they will avoid Kuta. Uneasy: Dimity Carter and Stephen Vankey. Avoiding hotspots: Narelle Taylor.
ENDS.]
[KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah):
2:191 (or 2:187):- And kill them wherever you find them, …
2:193 (or 2:189):- … Fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left.
<www.submission. org/suras/ sura2.html #193>
DOCTRINE ENDS.]
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[Nov 10, 08]
[Kidnap victim freed, Omar bin Laden loses visa, and Bangladesh wants oil boundary.]
[Kidnap victim freed, Omar bin Laden loses visa, and Bangladesh wants oil boundary]
The West Australian,
Various items, Monday, November 10, 2008
Page 26. Journalist freed

AFGHANISTAN: Melissa Fung, a television reporter for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, kidnapped in Kabul, was freed after tribal elders persuaded the kidnappers to release her from Wardak province.
Page 26. Bin Laden son barred.

EGYPT: Osama bin Laden's son Omar was deported from Egypt yesterday after returning from a failed bid for political asylum in Spain, his English-born wife said.
The couple were not allowed to enter Egypt on their return from Spain, which rejected the 27-year-old's request despire him saying life was in danger in the Middle East because he was a pacifist.
The couple later arrived in Qatar. #
Page 25. Bangladesh declared border alert as dispute with Burma heats up.

DHAKA: Bangladeshi border guards were put on alert at the weekend after reports that Burma was amassing troops. Last week, Bangladesh accused Burma of sending some ships into a contested deep-sea area believe to contain hydrocarbon reserves [i.e., oil, gas or the like.]
[COMMENT: Fair-minded readers will sympathise with the son of bin Laden, and wonder if the Sharia rule to kill people who leave Islam is keeping him from denouncing it. And many will not criticise climate-ravaged Bangladesh for wanting a fair share from the Burmese dictators.
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Nov 10, 08]
Christians, Muslims, call for religious freedom.
Christians, Muslims, call for religious freedom
The Record (R.C. Perth, W. Australia, weekly),
By Cindy Wooden, p 6, Wednesday, November 12, 2008
VATICAN CITY (CNS) – Christians and Muslims must work together to protect religious freedom, they must learn more about each other and they must witness to the world the reality of God, said members of the Catholic-Muslim Forum.
The forum participants, 28 Muslim and 28 Catholic representatives, met at the Vatican on November 4-6 to discuss their faiths' understanding of the obligation to love God and to love one's neighbour.
The final statement said both Christians and Muslims recognise the dignity and sacredness of human life because each person is "created by a loving God."
Christianity and Islam teach that love for God and genuine faith
lead to love for one's neighbour, it said, and "genuine love of neighbor implies respect of the person and her or his choices in matters of conscience and religion."
Religious minorities deserve protection, they have a right to their own places of worship and their sacred figures and symbols "should not be subject to any form of mockery or ridicule," the leaders said.
In an increasingly secularised and materialistic world, forum participants called on Catholics and Muslims to give witness to "the transcendent dimension of life."
The leaders also said, "We profess that Catholics and Muslims are called to be instruments of love and harmony among believers, and for humanity as a whole, renouncing any oppression, aggression, violence and terrorism."
The forum, it said, will meet again in 2010 in a country with a Muslim majority, although the site has not been chosen.
Presenting the statement at the forum's public session on November 6 at Rome's Pontifical Gregorian University, Joseph Maila, a professor at the Catholic Institute of Paris, said the participants "came with humility to try to understand the other."
"This is risky," he said. "We risk exposing ourselves to the other by saying: 'This is what we believe. This is what we aim for,' while knowing the other can see the reality and where we are not measuring up."
Maila said the participants "discussed things that hurt us," including violence, prejudice, misinformation and instances where believers cannot fully exercise their faith.
"While we cannot be held responsible for the actions of those who commit violence in the name of our religion," he said, participants agreed that "we must take responsibility for giving an accurate portrayal of our religion" by denouncing those who would manipulate it.
Ingrid Mattson, president of the Islamic Society of North America and a professor of Islamic studies at the Hartford Seminary in Connecticut, said the 2007 letter of 138 Muslim scholars that led to the Catholic-Muslim Forums foundation, was launched with "a sense of urgency, a sense that religion has become a source of conflict in an absolutely unacceptable way."
Because, she said, the truth is that "every day millions of people engage in acts of piety, generosity and compassion out of their religious convictions. This good is done through two essential principles: love of God and love of neighbour."
Saying that the scholars participating in the forum represent "the broad mainstream of the Muslim world," Mattson said they promised to take the results back to their communities, to promote better relations with Christians and to work for greater respect for religious freedom for all people.
The event at the university allowed time for questions from the public and included a strong accusation that Muslims in Iraq and other parts of the Middle East are forcing all Christians to flee.
Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, retired archbishop of Washington and a Vatican-appointed member of the forum, said that, like the public session, the forum's closed-door meetings included "frank discussions, but frank discussions are important. If they are not frank, they are useless." #
[COMMENT: Such talk-fests cannot erase the clear rulings of the Koran (scripture) that Muslims must fight until no other religion than Islam is left, and of the Hadith (traditions) that any Muslim who changes his religion is killed. The Sharia (case law) of the various Muslim sects debates the exact legalities of this core teaching, and even if the 56 scholars talked for a year, that has not changed.
Muslims are taught that all human babies are born as Muslims, that their god Allah owns the whole earth, that Christian worship of Jesus is wicked, that Jews can be killed at will and on the Last Day Jews will be fleeing from Muslim killers, and that a sensual paradise awaits any man who dies trying to enforce Allah's rule. "Frank discussions" have not removed those teachings in 1400 years, any more than countless battles by Christians to drive Muslim invaders out !
The following is completly untrue in relation to Islam: "Christianity and Islam teach that love for God and genuine faith lead to love for one's neighbour." There is not much love in the Koran and Hadith teachings of how the early Muslims supposedly murdered individual people, attacked their neighbours, destroyed their buildings, and were rewarded by Allah with victory and the rich booty they took.
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[Nov 12, 08]
Professor Hired for Outreach to Muslims Delivers a Jolt; … Prophet Muhammad Never Existed
Professor Hired for Outreach to Muslims Delivers a Jolt
Islamic Theologian’s Theory: It’s Likely the Prophet Muhammad Never Existed
The Wall Street Journal,
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122669909279629451.html ,
By ANDREW HIGGINS, andrew.higgins@wsj.com , (Almut Schoenfeld in Berlin contributed to this article),
NOVEMBER 15, 2008
MÜNSTER, Germany – Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany's first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn't like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.
So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.
Theology Without Muhammad
Read a translated excerpt from "Islamic Theology Without the Historic Muhammad -- Comments on the Challenges of the Historical-Critical Method for Islamic Thinking," by Professor Kalisch.
Muslims, not surprisingly, are outraged. Even Danish cartoonists who triggered global protests a couple of years ago didn't portray the Prophet as fictional. German police, worried about a violent backlash, told the professor to move his religious-studies center to more-secure premises.
"We had no idea he would have ideas like this," says Thomas Bauer, a fellow academic at Müster University who sat on a committee that appointed Prof. Kalisch. "I'm a more orthodox Muslim than he is, and I'm not a Muslim."
When Prof. Kalisch took up his theology chair four years ago, he was seen as proof that modern Western scholarship and Islamic ways can mingle -- and counter the influence of radical preachers in Germany. He was put in charge of a new program at Müster, one of Germany's oldest and most respected universities, to train teachers in state schools to teach Muslim pupils about their faith.
Muslim leaders cheered and joined an advisory board at his Center for Religious Studies. Politicians hailed the appointment as a sign of Germany's readiness to absorb some three million Muslims into mainstream society. But, says Andreas Pinkwart, a minister responsible for higher education in this north German region, "the results are disappointing."
Prof. Kalisch, who insists he's still a Muslim, says he knew he would get in trouble but wanted to subject Islam to the same scrutiny as Christianity and Judaism. German scholars of the 19th century, he notes, were among the first to raise questions about the historical accuracy of the Bible.
Many scholars of Islam question the accuracy of ancient sources on Muhammad's life. The earliest biography, of which no copies survive, dated from roughly a century after the generally accepted year of his death, 632, and is known only by references to it in much later texts. But only a few scholars have doubted Muhammad's existence. Most say his life is better documented than that of Jesus.
[Drawing] Sven Muhammad Kalish [sic]
"Of course Muhammad existed," says Tilman Nagel, a scholar in
Gļöttingen and author of a new book, "Muhammad: Life and Legend." The Prophet differed from the flawless figure of Islamic tradition, Prof. Nagel says, but "it is quite astonishing to say that thousands and thousands of pages about him were all forged" and there was no such person.
All the same, Prof. Nagel has signed a petition in support of Prof. Kalisch, who has faced blistering criticism from Muslim groups and some secular German academics. "We are in Europe," Prof. Nagel says. "Education is about thinking, not just learning by heart."
Prof. Kalisch's religious studies center recently removed a sign and erased its address from its Web site. The professor, a burly 42-year-old, says he has received no specific threats but has been denounced as apostate, a capital offense in some readings of Islam.
"Maybe people are speculating that some idiot will come and cut off my head," he said during an interview in his study.
A few minutes later, an assistant arrived in a panic to say a suspicious-looking digital clock had been found lying in the hallway. Police, called to the scene, declared the clock harmless.
A convert to Islam at age 15, Prof. Kalisch says he was drawn to the faith because it seemed more rational than others. He embraced a branch of Shiite Islam noted for its skeptical bent. After working briefly as a lawyer, he began work in 2001 on a postdoctoral thesis in Islamic law in Hamburg, to go through the elaborate process required to become a professor in Germany.
The Sept. 11 attacks in the U.S. that year appalled Mr. Kalisch but didn't dent his devotion. Indeed, after he arrived at Müster University in 2004, he struck some as too conservative. Sami Alrabaa, a scholar at a nearby college, recalls attending a lecture by Prof. Kalisch and being upset by his doctrinaire defense of Islamic law, known as Sharia.
In private, he was moving in a different direction. He devoured works questioning the existence of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Then "I said to myself: You've dealt with Christianity and Judaism but what about your own religion? Can you take it for granted that Muhammad existed?"
He had no doubts at first, but slowly they emerged. He was struck, he says, by the fact that the first coins bearing Muhammad's name did not appear until the late 7th century -- six decades after the religion did.
He traded ideas with some scholars in Saarbrücken who in recent years have been pushing the idea of Muhammad's nonexistence. They claim that "Muhammad" wasn't the name of a person but a title, and that Islam began as a Christian heresy.
Prof. Kalisch didn't buy all of this. Contributing last year to a book on Islam, he weighed the odds and called Muhammad's existence "more probable than not." By early this year, though, his thinking had shifted. "The more I read, the historical person at the root of the whole thing became more and more improbable," he says.
He has doubts, too, about the Quran. "God doesn't write books," Prof. Kalisch says.
Some of his students voiced alarm at the direction of his teaching. "I began to wonder if he would one day say he doesn't exist himself," says one. A few boycotted his lectures. Others sang his praises.
Prof. Kalisch says he "never told students 'just believe what Kalisch thinks' " but seeks to teach them to think independently. Religions, he says, are "crutches" that help believers get to "the spiritual truth behind them." To him, what matters isn't whether Muhammad actually lived but the philosophy presented in his name.
This summer, the dispute hit the headlines. A Turkish-language German newspaper reported on it with gusto. Media in the Muslim world picked up on it.
Germany's Muslim Coordinating Council withdrew from the advisory board of Prof. Kalisch's center. Some Council members refused to address him by his adopted Muslim name, Muhammad, saying that he should now be known as Sven.
German academics split. Michael Marx, a Quran scholar at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy of Sciences, warned that Prof. Kalisch's views would discredit German scholarship and make it difficult for German scholars to work in Muslim lands. But Ursula Spuler-Stegemann, an Islamic studies scholar at the University of Marburg, set up a Web site called solidaritymuhammadkalisch.com and started an online petition of support.
Alarmed that a pioneering effort at Muslim outreach was only stoking antagonism, Müster University decided to douse the flames. Prof. Kalisch was told he could keep his professorship but must stop teaching Islam to future school teachers.
The professor says he's more determined than ever to keep probing his faith. He is finishing a book to explain his thoughts. It's in English instead of German because he wants to make a bigger impact. "I'm convinced that what I'm doing is necessary. There must be a free discussion of Islam," he says. #
[RECAPITULATION: He was struck, he says, by the fact that the first coins bearing Muhammad's name did not appear until the late 7th century -- six decades after the religion did.
ENDS.]
[Check the professor's probable new status in THE KORAN (said to be the Angel Gabriel's message from Allah), and THE HADITH:
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: There aren't too many coins with the name of Jesus Christ on them soon after He was killed, so his theory about the coins is rather weak.
ENDS.]
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Jihad Watch, with links to the videos "Fitna," http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020472.php, AND "Islam: What the West needs to know," http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781 . ENDS.]
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[Nov 15, 08]
Sad death in Somalia. [VICTIM of rape is killed by sharia. Koran enjoins believers to kill unbelievers.]
Sad death in Somalia
The West Australian,
Letters to The Editor, p 22, Monday, November 17, 2008
Australia will "Push for end to death penalty" (report, 10/11), so a good place to start would be with Somalia. It is inconceivable that there was not worldwide condemnation of Somalia recently when a 13-year-old girl was stoned to death. And all because she was pack-raped. So what happened to the rapists? Nothing, it appears.
So while we were all worrying about whether Barak Obama would make it to the White House or whether three Bali bombers should or should not face the firing squad, a 13-year-old child was executed in the most horrible way for something that was probably out of her control. No appeals there, then.
Apart from John Langford (Letters, 8/11), there has been little comment about this incident. Somalia is a nation with a powerful Islamist movement and they apparently still live in the darkest of the "middle ages", so if Australia sponsors a resolution in the United Nations General Assembly calling for a moratorium on capital punishment, although it might let terrorists off the hook, it might just save another child from the most horrendous of deaths and drag countries like Somalia into the 21st century.
It's no deterrent
[and kills some innocents.]
I was extremely concerned to read the letters about the death penalty (13/11).
Mike Hilton thinks the death penalty is about justice and fairness. You only have to look to the WA justice system to see the danger of that. Andrew Mallard would have been executed if the death penalty existed in WA. How just or fair is it to execute an innocent person?
How many others over the years have lost their lives around the world through wrongful convictions, because of corruption, incompetence, mistakes or just a lack of technology to find better or more conclusive evidence?
If capital punishment is on the books, who should get punished if someone is wrongly executed? It would hardly be fair for the response to be "oops, sorry, made a mistake".
Stuart Bentley seems to think that the death penalty would be a deterrent. If so there would not be the big numbers of people sitting on death row around the world. No one ever thinks that they are going to get caught, so any penalty doesn't apply to them.
There are better ways than the death penalty and it is up to us as a just and merciful society to come up with them.
Stephanie Gee, Beckenham.
Right message
There's no evidence that the threat of punishment has ever deterred any offender from committing a crime, but the deaths of the Bali bombers will inform their colleagues that the Indonesian Government is serious about executing death warrants issued by the courts for terrorist crimes.
The punishment will help many of those affected to find closure in vengeance and will certainly prevent Amrozi, Samudra and Mukhlas from any further acts of the kind.
For those desperate to achieve clemency for the Australians Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran and Scott Rush, it should be remembered that, because of the big sums of money involved, recidivism is common among those in the illegal drug industry and their deaths will have a preventive effect, too.
While I'm opposed to capital punishment for most crimes, these three took the punt in another country and now face the consequences of their decisions.
IN SHORT
[Bali bombers follow Koran 9:5]
Ross B Taylor (Letters, 11/11) would have us believe that the Bali bombers "represented everything that Islam does NOT stand for". Really?
Then what are we to make of
Koran 9.5 which enjoins believers to "kill the unbelievers wherever you find them"? It's time we stopped subscribing to this "religion of peace" drivel. Islam may be peace for Muslims but for the rest of us it poses a grave danger.
Letters to the Editor, WA Newspapers, GPO Box N1027 Perth WA 6843. Fax 08 9482 3830. E-mail to: letters /@/ wanews /./ com /./ au
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[Nov 17, 08]
Fanatics 'hijack British prison'; Muslim extremists force inmates to convert to Islam [Whitemoor Prison crisis]
FANATICS ‘HIJACK BRITISH PRISON’
Muslim extremists force inmates to convert to Islam
The International Express (Britain), Australian edition,
intexletters@aol.com
pp 1-2, November 25 - December 1, 2008
MUSLIM prisoners are conducting a reign of terror inside a top security British jail.
The fanatics are forcing fellow inmates to convert to Islam or face punishment beatings.
One man who stood up to the thugs was branded with a lump of hot metal, according to a prison source.
The crisis at Whitemoor jail in Cambridgeshire has led to calls by staff for the 100 Muslim inmates there to be dispersed to other prisons round the country.
Some Al Qaeda supporters have set up a kangaroo court, sitting in judgment on prisoners and ordering punishments, the source said.
The violent disciples of Osama Bin Laden have targeted even the toughest non-Muslim prisoners, including killers and rapists.
Local Tory MP Malcolm Moss said: "They are a law unto themselves. The governor should sort these problems out." Mr Moss, who recently visited the jail with Prisons Minister David Hanson, added: "There is a fear in the prison about what Al Qaeda stands for and what they can do. There are threats made to people to make them convert and if they lapse it is even worse.
"It is not an easy situation for the prison officers working there. Either additional resources should be made available or better training."
Al Qaeda gang's reign of terror at British jail
Brian Caton, general secretary of the Prison Officers' Association,
said: "We have been calling for the Muslim leaders to be dispersed to other jails. The service must step in to break up this gang culture with immediate effect."
Concern over the way Whitemoor is being run surfaced when it was revealed an Al Qaeda terrorist had been training to be a stand-up comic.
Zia Ul Haq, 29, jailed for 18 years for planning a bombing campaign in London, signed up to an eight-day comedy workshop at the jail.
Justice Secretary Jack Straw stepped in on Friday to cancel the workshop, saying it was "totally unacceptable".
IRA prisoners exploited a lax regime at the jail in 1994 to attempt a mass breakout in which a prison officer was shot.
Last September staff gave an effective vote of no confidence in governor Steve Rodford.
Their main complaint was a change to shift patterns but they also expressed concern about security. Between April and October this year there have been nine serious assaults at the jail.
Governor Rodford said the claim that Muslim prisoners had become a law unto themselves was "entirely inaccurate".
He added: "Robust monitoring of all prisoners takes place at Whitemoor irrespective of religion or affiliations.
"Whitemoor does have groups of prisoners who have formed themselves into gangs.
"It is clear that this gang culture is a reflection of issues that exist outside prisons."
A Prison Service spokesman said: "There is no evidence to suggest prisoners are being branded or assaulted in an effort to radicalise them."
[Picture] TRAINEE COMIC: Terrorist Zia Ul Haq signed up for course #
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[November 25 - December 1, 2008]
A Soldier's View Of The Iraq War.
[Shi'a versus Sunni viciousness, and imported terrorists]
Annals Australasia, annalsaustralasia |AT| gmail |DOT| com ,
Reviewed by Michael O'Connor, pp 56-57, November 2008
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 56-57 NOVEMBER / DECEMBER 2008
Book
Review
‘Molan makes plain the reality that since 2003 there have been two wars in Iraq’
A SOLDIER’S VIEW OF THE IRAQ WAR
Reviewed by Michael O'Connor
F ROM early 2004 until a year later, the Australian Major General Jim Molan was Chief of Operations in the Coalition military force in Iraq. As such, he was the most senior non-American officer in the force and was responsible to the commanding general for all operations by the force. Among these were the second battle for Fallujah and the organisation of the first of three elections for a democratic Iraqi assembly. For most of his time in Iraq, he battled to get the infrastructure of oil production, transport and power generation back into working order. His book describes in great detail the life of a senior commander in a very hot war.
Molan is by no means the general of popular myth - if indeed there be any such - in the West at any rate. He makes plain that his Catholic upbringing -educated by the Christian Brothers at Parade College in Melbourne - led him to a deep examination of the justice of the Iraq conflict before taking up his appointment. His conviction that it was indeed a just war was reinforced by his experience, especially in the face of
Running the War in Iraq,
by Major General Jim Molan
Harper Collins, Sydney, 2008,
358pp, soft cover.
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the almost incredible viciousness of the sectarian conflicts between Sunni and Shia, and the imported jihadi fighters sponsored by al Qaeda and others.
The war is one of enormous intensity, a fact that is not evident from the highly politicised media reporting which is about all we in Australia receive. Thus the criticism that the Americans have failed to restore Iraq's infrastructure suggests neglect of the damage done by the initial invasion in 2003.
Not so, asserts Molan. In fact, the insurgency that comprises many disparate groups, including plain criminals, has targeted infrastructure in a deliberate campaign to discredit the occupation and the move to establish a free and democratic nation. Oil pipelines, electricity transmission lines, road and rail links are destroyed almost as fast as they are repaired. All too often, Molan reports, the insurgents are assisted by 'helpers' in the Iraqi ministries.
Molan makes plain the reality that since 2003 there have been two wars in Iraq. The first, highly successful, was designed to depose Saddam Hussein. This was arguably justifiable regardless of the flawed public rationale. Molan notes that the Coalition has uncovered mass graves of more than 300,000 Iraqi victims of Saddam's rule. Clearly, he believes that Iraq needed outside help to get rid of the monster and his family.
But following Saddam's removal, another war broke out. This was the insurgency that has plagued Iraq since mid-2003. It is a product of the Sunni minority trying to retain their privileged role in Iraq, the Shia majority trying to assert their supremacy and the imported terrorists of various extremist groups, many with extensive experience and training. In all of this, too, Iraq's several minorities have suffered grievously.
Molan is realistic but not bitter about the ruthlessness with which the insurgents treat ordinary Iraqis. He notes that, under the laws of armed conflict, which are based on Christian just war principles, the Coalition forces are not able to respond in kind. His acceptance of the limits is based upon his own personal moral principles without reservation and he believes that to be true of the Coalition forces generally. He makes no excuses for the very few actual abuses - such as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal - noting that these were due to a lack of proper training and supervision. He merely wishes that the Western, especially European, media would pay as much attention to the gross violations of the innocent perpetrated by the insurgents.
On a more technical level, Molan gives a good insight into the reality of the modern 24-hour war. For him as chief of operations, this meant a 20-hour working day every day provided that his four hours off was not interrupted by some emergency. Travel by air or by road was ever dangerous and his team, which included a six-man bodyguard, was frequently attacked.
He pays tribute to the ordinary Iraqis who suffered much more under the insurgency than the occupation. He notes the high percentages of ordinary people who turned out to vote in the election, many more each time, in defiance of the insurgents' threats. Iraqis were giving themselves a stake in their future and Molan clearly believes that, in justice, the Coalition must stay the course even though it will be a long one.
But it does raise the question: would it have been better if Iraq had never been invaded? One of the just war principles that must be satisfied is that there must be serious prospects of success. Another is that the use of arms must not result in graver evils and disorders than the evil to be eliminated.
1 The picture Molan paints - perhaps inadvertently - is of a large scale, very violent insurgency in which no one is safe and in which the resources of a very large military force are stretched to the limit. For the Coalition, there are three solutions: get out of Iraq altogether; carry on with a seemingly no-win, no-lose campaign; or do as was eventually done and boost troop numbers (the so-called Surge) and fight the insurgency to a standstill if that be possible.
In these circumstances, the principles are not much help. They are no more than that, mere statements of ideals rather than directives, which the Church could not issue anyway. Ultimately, as the Catechism makes very plain, evaluating the conditions for a just war is the responsibility of those with legitimate authority. What it means further is that soldiers, especially senior officers like Molan, must decide for themselves on the basis both of the principles and of their professional knowledge, experience and judgement in an environment which is not static. Mistakes will be made, that is human. But the mistakes are more likely to be made by those with inadequate knowledge and experience, by those who rely upon media headlines or raw emotion, or by those who do not understand the nature of a violent and ruthless enemy. #
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1 Catechism of the Catholic Church, Art 2309.
ANNALS AUSTRALASIA 56-57 NOVEMBER / DECEMBER 2008
[RECAPITULATION: He makes no excuses for the very few actual abuses - such as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal - noting that these were due to a lack of proper training and supervision.
ENDS.]
[COMMENT: Sorry, the U.S.A. at the School of the Americas (in 2001 renamed the "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Co-operation"), Fort Benning, Georgia, has been training Latin Americans and probably others in torture and similar for years and years, in spite of an ongoing opposition to it by U.S. people of various belief systems, including Christians.
A number of such protesters will appear in federal court on January 26, 2009, and will use the courtroom to speak truth to power and to put the School of the Americas itself on trial.
They are:
Sister Diane Pinchot, OSU, 63, from Cleveland, Ohio;
Father Luis Barrios, 56, from North Bergen, New Jersey;
Mr Louis Wolf, 68, from Washington, DC;
Ms Theresa Cusimano, 40, Denver, Colorado; and
Mr Al Simmons, 64, from Richmond, Virginia. For details, click www.soaw.org .
Abu Ghraib prison cruelty by Coalition forces in Iraq is the product of an ongoing unconstitutional attack on human rights which U.S. President after President has approved. Most Westerners will be amazed to know that one past President actually issued an "Executive Order" removing the right of the secret service to murder foreign heads of state ! This rule has been cancelled by a later President. Unbelievable, but true.
COMMENT ENDS.]
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[List as Nov 30 '08; pp 56-57, Nov-Dec 2008]
Vital handbook on the present danger. Global Jihad.
News Weekly (Australia),
p 19, December 6, 2008
www.newsweekly.com.au NEWS WEEKLY, DECEMBER 6, 2008 – PAGE 19
BOOKS
Vital handbook on the present danger
GLOBAL JIHAD:
The Future in the Face of
Militant Islam
by Patrick Sookhdeo
(London: Isaac Publishing)
Hardback: 670 pages
Rec. price: AUD$50.00
Reviewed by Bill Muehlenberg
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Everyone now knows about radical Muslim terrorists and their campaign of bloodshed and intimidation. In response, the West has declared war on terror, and military operations are under way, either covertly or openly, in order to bring this threat to an end.
Dr Patrick Sookhdeo is well aware of the global terror campaign. But he is also aware that there is much more to this struggle than just
suicide-bombers. There are theological, political, moral and ideological issues as well. Thus this book is not entitled "Global Terror", for that would give a misleading impression of what this battle is really all about. Terrorism is simply one facet of a multilateral approach to achieving Islamic supremacy around the world.
Lifelong study
Sookhdeo is eminently qualified to write on this subject. He was born in Guyana, South America, to an Asian Muslim family, although he is now a Christian residing in London. He has spent his life studying Islam and the jihadists. He is more than familiar with Islamic history, theology, culture and practice.
In this substantial volume of nearly 700 pages, Sookhdeo examines how the global Islamic challenge is being manifest, and how it can be withstood. He looks primarily at the theology and beliefs of Islam, and argues that only a major reform of Islam itself can really turn things around.
While many are happy to believe that "Islam is peace", the truth lies elsewhere. In fact, the radical Islamists are not some aberration of Islamic belief and practice, but are really an integral part of it. Many people nonetheless want to distinguish between Islamist terrorism and Islamic terrorism. "However, this is really a meaningless distinction," says Sookhdeo. "Islamism is simply the essence of classical Islam, and violence and terror are found within both of them."

Although the major sources of Islam provide the inspiration for terror, that does not mean that all Muslims are terrorists. Most Muslims in fact reject the jihadists.
But if Islamist violence can be justified by, and found within, the main Islamic sources (i.e., the Koran, the hadith, the life and teachings of Muhammad, etc.), then only a major reform of Islam, and a new reinterpretation of it, can help to curb the violence.
Thus the war on terror is really just a small part of a much larger war, that is, the 1,400-year-long war of Islamic expansionism. The pursuit of Islamic power and hegemony is what jihad is all about. The struggle for Islam includes not just violent military means, but all manner of other means as well.
Islam envisages jihad to be a permanent struggle, one that will continue until all of Allah's enemies are subsumed and sharia law rules the earth. Until then, there can be no real peace.
Sure, temporary peace can be negotiated when Islam is not in a position to achieve complete dominance. But whenever Islam becomes the ruling ideology of a country, then all non-Muslims must submit, or endure dhimmitude. Dhimmis (non-Muslims under Islamic rule) must submit to the demeaning regulations of Islam, including payment of the jizya (poll tax).
Persecution of non-Muslims in Muslim lands is an ever-present reality, and more Christians are being killed today in Islamic lands than anywhere else. And many moderate Muslims are being killed by the Islamists as well.
Sookhdeo here offers extensive documentation and explanation of Islamic jihadist thought and practice.
Countless Muslim thinkers, jurists, imams, commentators and strategists are quoted here. He clearly makes the case that the ideology and aims of jihad are contained in the very heart and soul of Islam.
Meaty chapters explore various issues, such as the life and history of Muhammad; the nature of the Koran, the hadith and sharia; the Islamic understanding of peace; the theology of war and empire-building; and responses to Islamic terrorism.
Consider one chapter, on
taqiyya. This is the Arabic term for religiously-sanctioned deception or dissimulation. It has long been held by leading Muslim authorities that Muslims have a right to practise deception with non-Muslims if there is a conflict between faith and expediency.
This practice has been especially useful for Muslim apologists and evangelists who want to convince gullible Westerners that Islam is really a religion of peace. It is a regular practice of those who "expend much energy to convince non-Muslims that Islam is, and has always been, peaceful and tolerant". This puts non-Muslims off guard, and prepares them for eventual Muslim rule and domination.
Sookhdeo has penned a number of previous works on Islam, but this is his
magnum opus, at least for now. It is a goldmine of information, facts and figures on what is one of the greatest threats facing the free West today. It is only because of ignorance about the contents of this book – and others like it – that we are in such a predicament today.
Ignorance can no longer be an excuse. As Sookhdeo says, "Ultimately to gain victory over the Islamists will require the exercise of the will and a right understanding of the situation."
This volume certainly provides all the necessary information for understanding the nature of the war we are in. Whether we have the will and the guts to stay in the battle and see it through to the end is another matter. But Sookhdeo's volume is a must read for everyone – Muslim and non-Muslim alike. #
www.newsweekly.com.au NEWS WEEKLY, DECEMBER 6, 2008 – PAGE 19
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[RECAPITULATION: Thus the war on terror is really just a small part of a much larger war, that is, the 1,400-year-long war of Islamic expansionism. …
Islam envisages jihad to be a permanent struggle, one that will continue until all of Allah's enemies are subsumed and sharia law rules the earth. [ … ]
… more Christians are being killed today in Islamic lands than anywhere else. And many moderate Muslims are being killed by the Islamists as well. [ … ]
[Taqiyya, i.e., deception] is a regular practice of those who "expend much energy to convince non-Muslims that Islam is, and has always been, peaceful and tolerant". This puts non-Muslims off guard, and prepares them for eventual Muslim rule and domination.
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[Dec 6, 2008]
• AIG Defies U.S. Taxpayers by Promoting Sharia in America.
AIG Defies U.S. Taxpayers by Promoting Sharia in America
Rick Honcho Radio Show,
http:// smithfiles.com/ 2008/12/07/ aig-defies-us- taxpayers- by-promoting- sharia-in- america/# comment-2234 ,
submitted by Rick Honcho on Sunday, December 7, 2008
[Picture of man with white prayer cap, with hands held out, in front of a flag showing red and white stripes, and in the flag's canton a white crescent moon on a blue background]
UNITED STATES of AMERICA –
For the third month in a row, AIG is in the news regarding its promotion of Sharia-compliant finance (SCF) products, which promote the Islamic supremacist, segregationist ideology of Sharia. For a company struggling with its financial survival, it remains astounding that AIG would want to incite its American taxpayer owners by promoting products that are based on an Islamic supremacist political ideology. In October 2008, I wrote how the U.S. government gave an $85 billion loan to AIG, without demanding divestment of its business ventures reselling Sharia mutual trusts and its AIG Takaful division selling Sharia-based insurance. In November 2008, I wrote about how the U.S. government purchased $40 billion in AIG stock, making you as a taxpayer, an owner of a company promoting Sharia through such businesses.
For months, I have warned that AIG's Takaful division was planning to expand to offer such AIG-specific Sharia products here in the United States. Now AIG has announced that it has Sharia-based insurance products for the United States, and AIG is promoting them.
On December 1, 2008, AIG announced that it was "introducing a Takaful Homeowners Policy, the first installment in Lexington Takaful Solutions, a series of Shari'ah-compliant (Takaful) product offerings in the U.S. The newly announced Takaful products are compliant with key Islamic finance tenets and based on the concept of mutual insurance." Note that AIG indicates that such Sharia insurance products are the "first installment" in a series of Sharia products. In the AIG press release, AIG Takaful's Abdallah Kubursi expresses his pride in AIG's ability to promote Sharia within the United States, stating "This is truly a global effort on the part of AIG."
This is our company, using our taxpayer dollars, to promote Islamic supremacist Sharia-based products in our country. As we are $40 billion owners in AIG, this is our problem as Americans. What is our government and AIG going to do about this?
First, let's remember what Sharia is and is not.
Sharia is a legal codification of the political ideology of Islamic supremacism. This Sharia legal codification is intended to enforce discriminatory and segregationist practices against women and non-Muslims and to suppress the liberties of those living in Islamic theocracies. As a legal codification of a supremacist ideology, Sharia is incompatible with democratic values and the inalienable human right that "all men are created equal." In 2001, nearly two months before the 9/11 attacks, the European Court of Human Rights determined that Sharia law was incompatible with democracy and human rights. The President of the European Court of Human Rights stated that "the Court found that sharia was incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy as set forth in the Convention… Principles such as pluralism in the political sphere or the constant evolution of public freedoms have no place in it. According to the Court, it was difficult to declare one's respect for democracy and human rights while at the same time supporting a regime based on sharia…". Even British courts have ruled that Sharia is "discriminatory."
In a nation such as the United States, based on the inalienable human rights of equality and liberty, why would American taxpayers seek to fund a business selling products that promote a discriminatory, segregationist, and supremacist ideology that is "incompatible with democracy and human rights"?
Sharia is not merely "cultural beliefs," "religious beliefs," or "social preference." In the AIG press release, AIG's Abdallah Kubursi would have Americans believe that the goal of promoting such Sharia products is to expand "social preference." But America has rejected those who would label supremacist values as "social preference," just as they rejected white supremacists who once called for racial segregation and discrimination. America's society, businesses, government, and law rejects supremacist ideologies. Just ask President-Elect Barack Obama.
This is the same Sharia ideology that has been used by the Islamic supremacist Taliban to murder those who they believe have committed moral crimes, the same Sharia ideology that was used to murder a 13 year old girl last month who was raped in Somalia, and the same Sharia ideology supported by the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Islamic supremacists around the world. It is the same Sharia ideology whose zakat charities have been used to fund jihadist terrorist organizations. On September 18, 2008, Congressman Tom Tancredo's office introduced "Jihad Prevention Act" (H.R. 6975). According to the press release from his office on this bill, "the legislation would make the advocacy of Sharia law by radical Muslims already in the United States a deportable offense."
But now American taxpayer dollars are being used to promote products based on Sharia?
In fairness to AIG, there are many who do not understand the political Islamic supremacist nature of Sharia.
Stop Sharia Now (FAQ item 17) provides a quote regarding an "Islamic Finance conference" in New York City where an attendee asked the meaning of Sharia. One of AIG's Sharia advisors, Sheik Nizam Yaquby, ambiguously responded by stating that "Shariah is the path on which we walk, the water which we drink." Those of us who are aware that Sharia is a legal codification for all aspects of Islamic supremacist life grasp what Yaquby was trying to communicate; certainly none of the supremacist aspects of Sharia was communicated by Yaquby. It is then reported that "Not one person in the room followed up with a question. The group went back to looking at flowcharts and graphs." So it should be little surprise that few people involved with Sharia finance products actually understand the ramifications of promoting Islamic supremacist Sharia.
To give AIG an opportunity to respond to this, I called the individual listed on AIG's press release for its Sharia Takaful Homeowners Policy, Jim Crain, and talked to him about the AIG product. My impression is that AIG's Jim Crain is a businessman, and I got the distinct feeling that he was uncomfortable with being named as the AIG point of contact on a product with political connotations. I told AIG's Jim Crain about the online petition signed by over 100 individual